finofaya:
I think if you truly appreciate God's personality and the extent of his power you will be inclined not to badmouth him.

Afoochekk1914:
I ain't an atheist but just want somebody to enlighten me.
"We thank God for the good things that happened to us, why not blame him for the bad things that happened to us?"

finofaya:
I think if you truly appreciate God's personality and the extent of his power you will be inclined not to badmouth him.

PSTEMMA1960:
when u are in good terms with God, u don't only thank him when good things happens only, u also thank him when bad things happens.. when u say bad things i mean something that is beyond human prevention, i.e miscarriage, accident or sudden death..

when Job was been tempted, he never knew that if was a text, bt he never blamed anyone, instead he thanked God..

and what happened later？God gave her more beautiful children, more that the ones he lost, even times 2 of all the animals he lost..

PSTEMMA1960:
when u are in good terms with God, u don't only thank him when good things happens only, u also thank him when bad things happens.. when u say bad things i mean something that is beyond human prevention, i.e miscarriage, accident or sudden death..

when Job was been tempted, he never knew that if was a text, bt he never blamed anyone, instead he thanked God.

and what happened later？God gave her more beautiful children, more that the ones he lost, even times 2 of all the animals he lost..

PSTEMMA1960:
when u are in good terms with God, u don't only thank him when good things happens only, u also thank him when bad things happens.. when u say bad things i mean something that is beyond human prevention, i.e miscarriage, accident or sudden death..

PSTEMMA1960:
when Job was been tempted, he never knew that if was a text, bt he never blamed anyone, instead he thanked God..


and what happened later？God gave her more beautiful children, more that the ones he lost, even times 2 of all the animals he lost..

HOW CAN ANY RIGHT THINKING PERSON BELIEVE, ACCEPT, AND CONTINUALLY TRANSMIT THIS FABLE?

hopefulLandlord:

Afoochekk1914:

Can u enlighten me more?

hopefulLandlord:


If I praise myself when good things happen and blame myself when bad things happen, am I "badmouthing" myself? sounds more like me being consistent

hopefulLandlord:

Maybe I remember it wrong, but I think it's Yahweh himself who wrecks Job's life, to prove how Job is 100% faithful to him.
Satan just eggs him on saying: "Oh sure, you took his wealth, but he still has his family. I bet he wouldn't believe in you if he didn't have that."
And Yahweh just answers: "Oh yeah? Just you watch."
Satan: "Hey, he no longer has a family, but he still has his good health."
Yahweh: "Not any more!"
OK, well that's great and all, but things didn't work out too well for all of Job's original sons and daughters who got killed!

Also, this always bugged me too: wouldn't Job still be sad about the loss of his first children? Losing children is not exactly like losing a car. You can't just get a new one and everything's good. I mean, if I had a son or daughter who got killed, and then Yahweh said, "Hey, it's okay, here's a new one - all fixed!" it wouldn't make my loss of the first one any less, no matter how much I loved the new one.

all in all, I think using Job as example to buttress your point is a terrible terrible idea cuz his afflictions were coming from Yahweh himself

Afoochekk1914:

The only thing I have noticed is that, people blame the devil for all the bad things that happened to them

PSTEMMA1960:
bt at the end who laughed last？Job or satan？read the book of jeremiah 17, we are jst like clay in the hands of a potter, the man that invented ferrari when he built his first ferrari model, it was very ok and beautiful, bt when he wanted to invent the second model, he had to dismantle the first car and then used the same car to manufacture the second model that was more beautiful than the first one..

when we christians talks about man and God relationship, we are talking about the spirit of God that is in us, God did nt destroy thier spirit..

ask u self this question, Job got times 2 of all the animals that he lost, bt why did he nt get times 2 of his children？.

CAPSLOCKED:




NO, YOU THANK GOD FOR ONLY THE GOOD THINGS, BUT BLAME YOUR VILLAGE PEOPLE FOR THE BAD THINGS.
WE KNOW YOU.





HOW CAN ANY RIGHT THINKING PERSON BELIEVE, ACCEPT, AND CONTINUALLY TRANSMIT THIS FABLE?

PSTEMMA1960:
when u are in good terms with God, u don't only thank him when good things happens only, u also thank him when bad things happens.. when u say bad things i mean something that is beyond human prevention, i.e miscarriage, accident or sudden death..

when Job was been tempted, he never knew that if was a text, bt he never blamed anyone, instead he thanked God..

and what happened later？God gave her more beautiful children, more that the ones he lost, even times 2 of all the animals he lost..

hopefulLandlord:

it appears you didn't understand my post at all but never mind

PSTEMMA1960:
bt at the end who laughed last？Job or satan？read the book of jeremiah 17, we are jst like clay in the hands of a potter, the man that invented ferrari when he built his first ferrari model, it was very ok and beautiful, bt when he wanted to invent the second model, he had to dismantle the first car and then used the same car to manufacture the second model that was more beautiful than the first one..

when we christians talks about man and God relationship, we are talking about the spirit of God that is in us, God did nt destroy thier spirit..

ask u self this question, Job got times 2 of all the animals that he lost, bt why did he nt get times 2 of his children？.

PSTEMMA1960:
It takes a special grace to believe in the bible.

PSTEMMA1960:

before the invention of microscope there are people that u can't convince that up to i millions germs are living inside thier mouth, bt today according to science a person has up to 6 billion germs in his/her mouth and it has been proven, the same things are applicable to the things of God.

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PSTEMMA1960:

god is a spirit that is why u have to be spiritual b4 u can see in the spirit,

FROM THE WAY YOU TALK, I AGREE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THIS SO CALLED SPIRIT, SO, CONGRATULATIONS.

PSTEMMA1960:
in human philosophy seeing is believing, bt when it comes to God u have to believe b4 seeing..

Afoochekk1914:
I ain't an atheist but just want somebody to enlighten me.
"We thank God for the good things that happened to us, why not blame him for the bad things that happened to us?"

PSTEMMA1960:
the wisdom of God is folishness b4 men and the wisdom of men is folishness b4 God, it takes a special grace to believe in the bible, bt if u choose nt to believe, u also have ur reasons for that..

bt the invention of microscope there are people that u can't convince that up to i millions germs are living inside thier mouth, bt today according to science a person has up to 6 billion germs in his/her mouth and it has been proven, the same things are applicable to the things of God.

god is a spirit that is why u have to be spiritual b4 u can see in the spirit, in human philosophy seeing is believing, bt when it comes to God u have to believe b4 seeing..

finofaya:


What I'm trying to say is that God has the power to do and undo and he applies it as he sees fit. Whatever God does is good. He is a merciful, just God and we are expected to have faith in him and trust that whatever he does in our lives is done for our overall benefit, individually and collectively.

adepeter2027:
If I'm to go by ya logic, why don't we thank god for creating Satan as well?

LoL
Job? A conspired script between god and Satan?
LoL

Hahahahaha

OK naw

NPComplete:


Lies. You don't have any proof for that claim in bold.

Afoochekk1914:
I ain't an atheist but just want somebody to enlighten me.
"We thank God for the good things that happened to us, why not blame him for the bad things that happened to us?"

PSTEMMA1960:
the things of God are like a teachers who goes to the class room to teach, some students will understand the lesson very well, some half way and some nt even at all, the same thing is happening to us today when it comes to the things of God..

some people understands it very well, some half way and some nt even at all..

can i ask u one question？

PSTEMMA1960:
read read job 1 vs 2-3 he had ten children 7000 sheeps, 3000 carmels, 500 oxens and 500 donkeys..

after that read the book of Job 42 vs 12-13
14000 sheeps, 6000 carmels, 1000 oxens and one thousand donkeys isn't that time 2？

adepeter2027:

Exactly cos god is the cop-out used by you guys.

It might interest you that I was a devoted Christian in the past.
you're free

PSTEMMA1960:
if a man loses a job he is earning 100k per month, after that he and his family suffered hunger and hardship, then afterward he get a job where he now earns 500k if u are that man will u regret that u lost the first job？

CAPSLOCKED:




IT TAKES ILLITERACY AND COWARDICE TO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.




LOL, PLEASE WHERE IS THE "MICROSCOPE" FOR SEEING GOD?



FROM THE WAY YOU TALK, I AGREE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THIS SO CALLED SPIRIT, SO, CONGRATULATIONS.





BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CANNOT SEE THIS GOD BECAUSE YOU'RE SPIRITUALLY BLIND.
SO YOU LEAVE THE TASK TO YOUR PASTORS WHO HAVE BEEN SPECIALLY ORDAINED TO SEE GOD, RECEIVE AND TRANSLATE INSTRUCTIONS.


WHAT WAS THAT YOU SAID THAT I HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE?
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE BEFORE SEEING?
WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEE? YOU BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SEE,
YOU WANT TO SEE BECAUSE YOUR PASTORS ALL CLAIM THEY HAVE SEEN.

THAT IS WHY YOU'LL BE A SHEEP FOR LIFE.
UNTIL THE DAY YOU DECIDE YOU NO LONGER WANT TO SEE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO BE SEEN.