That's why I said those pastors and church owners reads and preach the Bible according to their understandings, that's why the mindset of a deeper lifer is different from a chosens, a Catholic different from an Anglican... And I say to u out there... Don't follow the rules all the time...think for yourself, don't let religion do ur thinking... Because someday they will change the rules to suit them

Youth of today like church that promote fornication adultery and seducing attires somebody even suggested the church should be banned. Anyway DCLM is one of those Churches that is standing for the truth.You may not like them no problem.Good Christians wherever church they are will not abandon their faith because you want people to join you in your sinful lifestyle and perish in hell fire

PharmaGirl:
Change is constant

Which means you can continue to change your Church doctrine at will.

2cato:
I see nothing wrong in those teachings.
Well na deeper live
I beg who drink beer remain for me

Nothing is wrong to a blind man

debolayinka:
I think most of those instituted rules and the reasons why they were established were misunderstood by many. They were just preventive.

What's preventive in not watching TV but use internet

007author:
Deeper life people are extremists. They should be banned in Nigeria

guy, Shey you no you don't have sense at all.. If you don't know, go and ask your mummy were you inherit your stupidity from. She go tell you

Uyi168:
His teaching on calling the tv a devil box is one reason pastor tunde bakari left the d church..

everyone with insight knows bakare na political pastor...

finest0007:


Everything he said is a lie?
My father was with this man in ibadan when he started his church from house fellowships of Scripure Union[SU] and vividly remembers giving out his TV to his brother because Kumuyi condemned TVs. I dont know about the rest but you should probably research first

I guess back then your daddy lacked understanding...

salvation101:
It takes humility to admit you were wrong.. Many people would av still held on to their dogma. Ur post is misleading though, did he even say his members should not seek medical care wen dey are sick? At least i know alot of deeperlife doctors and nurses. The bible says in all things we should give thanks, him saying wen u are sick you should still thank God doesnt mean you shouldn't seek medical attention or divine healing.. Wat would you do wen u r sick? Curse God like Job's wife suggested?

are you saying he started his ministry with a wrong doctrine? Who gave him the first doctrine?

007author:
Deeper life people are extremists. They should be banned in Nigeria

what do u mean ooooooo? extremists as in killing people or upholding the righteous and holy living.....Na wa for naija people oooo

OboOlora:

Be deceiving urself! His 1st son was a chronic porn addict wayyyyyy back when they were staying in Gbagada Phase 2 and they had 2TVs in their house as far back as 1996. Don’t be a bling sheeplee dude!!! Lemme not say more but if u know u know!!!

where did you hear this one from？his first son addicted to porn and am just hearing about it. ur hatred for the church sha, u don't know which person GOD is fighting for. when GOD decides this matter and considers you the villain, wat do you think will become of you？ let's try to weigh our words in matters like this

ugwusunday:
U forget to add, Buying expensive cars or cloth
But nw things don change
Them dey even dey use Venza nw

Are you serious??

obentenyson:
I guess back then your daddy lacked understanding...

Or more likely the man of God simply misled people based on what his interpretation of God's word. Do your research

He's still preaching holiness, so nothing has changed.

U didn't add ban of the use of any form of jewelry.it was strictly forbidden in in d church.don't knw about now

frosbel2:
that's why it is important not to follow the doctrines of men !!!

It's good to follow the doctrines of men of God, it's will prevent you from harm.

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oluboyo04:
are you saying he started his ministry with a wrong doctrine? Who gave him the first doctrine?

is dat one a doctrine? Do u know d meaning of doctrine? Deeperlife dat i know of has 22 doctrines and non of dat jas been tampered with

salvation101:
is dat one a doctrine? Do u know d meaning of doctrine? Deeperlife dat i know of has 22 doctrines and non of dat jas been tampered with

what do you call those ones? Dos and don'ts? I never see such example in the bible. Neither from Jesus nor His disciples. To rescind on what you earlier claimed to have received from God

Kumuyi is a very disciplined man, go build your own empire rather than criticize this highly successful man. Does your destiny detest success?

frosbel2:
that's why it is important not to follow the doctrines of men !!!

Yes welcome

I don't think I will have a TV set in my house. I get all news from Nairaland mainly.
TV is like that 'anything goes' companion that at one moment is helpful while communicating evil on the other.

MODALSOUL1:
Absolutely ,Brother . All laws ,doctrines ,traditions and cultures should be reviewed and amended once in awhile to foster progress . All denominations and religions and nations review and amend their doctrines and laws once in a while according to the times. For example , the current pope Amended some doctrines. Humans gain more insight with time .
The US government amend or create new laws after a specific incident .etc. And so we too must review and amend our personal lives in order to make sure we're on the right path.

the doctrine and statutes of the lord will not change. Stop comparing them with the laws of the world.

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femi4:
What's preventive in not watching TV but use internet

Well, they're getting it right already.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Until you are delivered from every known sin, you will never understand the word of God.
One thing for sure, you can't find any scandal against true child of God. I have followed the teachings of this rare man of God. Am yet to contradict his teachings cos they are Bible-based.

INTERMAN:
Thank God the man of God is still standing for holiness and righteousness. But here are some old beliefs of WF kumuyi in which he latter sent into oblivion.

1) TELEVISION- In the early days of Deeper life church. Television and anything that relates to it was seen as a taboo. The gadget was tagged "the box of the devil" and members of the church were strictly warned against Tv, video cameras in wedding and so on.Repairing of TV was also abomination. But today, the church itself, I.e Deeper life Bible Church now have over Ten thousands television in their various church for live transmissions. Video cameras are also now been used during events by members of the church

2) BE HAPPY WHEN YOU ARE SICK: In one of the old messages of pastor kumuyi. He made mention that saints and Christians should be happy when they are sick because it should be a thing of joy when it is time to cross over to the other side of eternity I.e heaven. But today, Pastor kumuyi now pray against death of members of the church and even organizes monthly programs and crusades against every form of sickness and disorders. He equally encourages his pastors to have some time to rest to prevent deaths and illness from overstress.

3) WEARING OF SUITS: Although he was not against wearing of suit. But he said he preferred wearing his Shirt and trousers.That was majorly his mode of dressing until the early 2000' when Pastor kumuyi suddenly changed to suit and Tie which has hence became his permanent mode of dressing.

4) BUILDING OF SCHOOLS BY THE CHURCH: It was believed that the church never intended to build any university or schools in the past so that Members can spread and shine as salts in the world rather than been confined in a given location. But today the church now has many secondary schools (Deeper life high schools) and a university (anchor university)

5) USE OF HANDKERCHIEF IN HEALING: In the late 80's or early 90's handkerchief was said to have been used by the man of God during miracle services, but this was latter abolished.

I commend you for commenting that Pastor Kumuyi is known for holiness. What else do you have to say?
You have ended up in contradicting yourself by revealing your shallow knowledge or hatred for him.
Take or leave it, I have chosen to abide his teachings.

I am not a deeper life member so it can't be my headache. Let deeper life members worry about those issues raised. None of my business.

Misleading post

The OP errand especially on number 2 and 5 is very myopic and unfounded. I've been a member of deeperlife since 1989!

chronique:


This is a blatant lie. Deeper life never saw other Christians as evil. I attended that church in my childhood and formative years. I attended that church in the 80s and 90s. They never said television was evil but they were against it cos they felt it could corrupt the mind(depending on what you watch),and believed it was better to abstain from watching TV to prevent temptations that could arise from immoral acts seen on TV,especially for children. Over the years,a lot of people have twisted the whole thing. Deeper life never said nobody should go to hospital. Way back,we used to have retreats and in those retreats,there were medical centres for treating people who took I'll during the retreat. My friend's mother whose father was a pastor then in the church, was a nurse and she was always at the medical centres. I don't know where most of you usually get your fables from.

Believe me you if one is not a deeper life member and resides in village they mostly take him or her as a witches regardless of being a christian

INTERMAN:
please don't add to what I posted. I didn't say he say no to medication or whatever you added to it. He only encouraged them in a message I heard to be happy and was not a "strict" doctrine. Why would you add to my post?

guy chillax now it was a simple message she'd passed all this ur phrase you dont need it man.....this is a forum and if you'd isn't okay with her adding then there's no reason creating the thread