Goke7:


una go soon tire, you think freeze is just condemning pastors and tithes, he wants a piece of the action, that's all.

You guys have been fooled to think freeze has a heart of gold. stay tuned for more revelations.

jpmoriarti:
If it is as a gift, then there is no blessing you will receive for it. You can as well have burnt the 10%.
However, if it as a tithe, there is a curse you are incurring for yourself because you are have taken yourself back to the law and renounced the resurrection of Jesus Christ who by his death, fulfilled and redeemed us from the shackles of the law and condemnation.

paxonel:
what action are you talking about be specific?

Who is saying freeze have heart of gold anyway?
That the man collect gift is that what you call revelation?

You mumu o

saltoasis:
Na the people using their data to stream his message I dey laugh.
This is what happens when you wait for someone to interpret the bible for you.

wellmax:


Bible says 'give and it shall be given back to you, good measure press down , shaken together and running over. "
I give because it's a blessing.

It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Bible

You can take your myopic interpretation of the Bible as far as you want.
He that is being often rebuked but harden his neck shall suddenly be destroyed and that without remedy.

Do what suits your fantasy and leave the tithers alone

Amagite3:
From; Amagitesblog.com

Controversial OAP and leader of the Free The Sheeple movement, Daddy Freeze is being slammed on Instagram fro receiving gifts from his online church members after he preached against it.

This is coming after he received an iPhone X from a member, and also got a Laptop from Reekado Banks after he reacted.

See more reactions here; https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/05/reactions-as-daddy-freeze-starts-receiving-gifts-from-his-online-church-members.html

jpmoriarti:
I didnt say bible condemns giving. It is important to know who you are giving to. As a matter of fact, the early christians didnt practise giving. They practised sharing.ry.

wellmax:


I read this part and left off reading more.

The Bible spoke of people like you in the last days.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:13)

jpmoriarti:
[s]Are u sure u didnt read it until the end? Besides, if u looking for false apostles etc, look no further than those your GOs and Pastors. Some of them claim to hold the key of heaven, deciding who enters and who doesn't. Your religion is with the poor and the needy. Giving to any pastor or church is as worthless as the P in Psychology. At the last day, Jesus will not tell you to enter the kingdom because you helped Oyedepo to fuel his jet. You will make heaven because you clothed the naked and fed the hungry. This is Jesus speaking. Dont go quoting me proverbs and psalms as though those were written for Christians [/s].

Koolking:


I follow this guy's teachings. You clearly misconceive his teachings.

shamecurls:



Hello, he got a gift from someone. Did he use false preaching to get it? Did he threaten about repercussions if he doesn't get gift.


Don't try to put the businessmen you call pastors at par with freeze

Goke7:

It's too early bro to deny your pastor now o

Collecting gifts like the pastors he abuses, this is just the beginning. Freeze revelation is simple; he wan collect like pastors too de collect.

paxonel:
no sense at all for your comment you are just talking for talking sake.

The man is not againt people collecting little gift , nobody in his right senses will critize anyone collecting little gifts(not fraudulent tithe and offerring) from people who are willing to give, if you believe that there is anyone like that then you be monkey like every illiterate nigerians talking

tolexy007:
For the benefit of those lazy youth who couldn't make out what the IG was saying..... The police PRO at HQ have transcribed it....
“I mean, transmission, I mean effort, that the transmission cooperation to transmission, I mean transmission to have effect, ehm, apprehend, I mean, apprehensive towards the recommendation, recommended formation effective and effect, I mean, apprehensive at the transmission of…and transmission and transmission for the effective in the police command..."
“All effective the transmission, other transmission, I can state without contradiction that I have commissioned what?”
“Over transmission of, over transmission of, over all kidnapping, armed robbery and other heinous crimes, I mean, ehm, commission transmission, recommendation transmission etc

Goke7:

Keep on the abuses like your pastor freeze, doesn't change the fact that he has been found out as an broke bloke hypocrite, so the gift is little because it is laptop and phone, lol. Don't worry bigger and better gifts are coming for your dear pastor for the work of his new found scam ministry

StaffofOrayan:
Christianity or Islam did not stop human sacrifice in Africa, enlightenment did, that's why some imams and pastors still do it
If we were colonized by the Japanese they would have stopped it,
Human sacrifices, Oro and all that are also offshoots of religion, it starts out innocent enough and before you know it lives are taken.
Jihadists, Zionists, Buddhists carrying out ethnic cleansing etc are all children of religion.
You give too little credit to our ancestors because you don't understand religion is control,
You fail to understand that NOTHING has changed, the same type of fraudulent religious leaders we have now is the same we had back in the days, they prevail over the masses with fear tactics to place them in line and like Rev. King they go too far and without checks and balance, it turns into a 'religious tradition'
The problem we have as Yoruba is that we have useless leaders, Christianity was once bloody, but they took out the blood and gore, and kept the good parts, you would be naive to think Europeans didn't sacrifice like in the old testament

If you have time to kill please attempt to read 'The voice of Africa' by Frobenius, Leo, it's an account of the travels of the German Inner African Exploration Expedition in the years 1910-1912. You would probably learn more about yoruba culture,

efficiencie:


Those who do ritual killings are quite enlightened and educated. The Sandy Hook shootings did not happen in Somolu, Bariga it happened in the US. The members of the Ku Klux Clan that have maimed and killed blacks in the U.S and fan racism are very enlightened, if not much more enlightened than both of us. Enlightenment did not remove the evils of this world rather it embellished it. Religion did not do any evil to anyone it is the men who did what they did inspired by their selfish interests. The Rwanda genocide had no leanings on religion it was anchored on ethnicity. The first and second world wars had nothing to do with religion but the selfish pursuance of pecuniary interests. The crimes committed in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Nigeria and even the so called Jihadists in the east all have nothing to do with religion but the calculated attempt of a few people to exploit the fault lines embedded in human societies towards the attainment of material gains. G. Bush was accused, with evidence, to have had contact with Osama Bin Laden before the WTC attacks and it was maintained by some others that G Bush was aware of the attacks before they happened. All of this just to justify a war in Iraq. Till today it is agreed that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq enough to justify a war. Yet the US went ahead with the war...civilians, women and children were killed in that war just to fill up the devious desires of a few people...now tell me how his is connected to religion.

Your onslaught against religion is not founded at all. Religion is all about thinking good, speaking good and doing good...but like anything else religion can be turned into a weapon. Just as Einstein's discovery of the E=mc ² was a beautiful thing but was quickly availed towards the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, so also religion is a beautiful thing but it has been exploited by a few towards doing evil. The formula is beautiful just as religion is but what people do with them is what you judge as either good or bad!

StaffofOrayan:
All the examples you gave just shows religion has nothing to do with being good/evil which is my point (except your religion is doing evil)
You conflict enlightenment with being 'educated' or being white,
My point is religion makes grown men stupid, put on ridiculous outfits and are given authority over people's lives esp children
Religion is NOT about doing good and all that, Religion is all about control!
The state controls religion, the priests in their various forms controls the people, and the people attempt to control their own afterlife.
Religion takes advantage of man's primal urge to be a part of a group, even atheism is a new religion
There is nothing beautiful about ANY religion in it's purest form, e.g are you prepared to go gay hunting?
The beauty is man's ability to clean up his religion and only Christians seem to be trying at this
Do you help a widow because you are a christian or because empathy towards other's suffering is written in your DNA?
I laugh my head off when I meet people that claim they used to be killers until they found religion, expect such person to kill again soon

efficiencie:


What came first? Men or religion? If I am to accept your enlightened opinion, which will most likely be that man evolved over billions of years ago, then I would be making a safe guess by claiming that man existed long before religion was a construct evolving into a concept held by many. If this is the case then I would like to ask if men were not stupid before religion came on board! Were the generations after the Australopithecus Africanus till the Homo Sapiens really great minds compared to those today who are infested with religions? Did religion make men daft or was religion man's attempt to cure man's insatiable desire to be stupid? Religion is associated with morality which when practiced faithfully is aimed at producing a near utopian society. Religion attempts to produce a single standard of good or bad bringing every of its adherents to its submission and hence entrenching social equilibrium. However this seeming fascist characteristic of religion makes it a potent weapon in the hands of those whose stupidity is an incurable terminal disease because they see that religion can have the effect of coercing people into submission so they work their way up the ranks, deny others the right to be curious and entrench themselves as the custodians of religion...these buffoons are the reason you have the temerity to label religion in the manner you have consistently done. Any society where people lack a universal standard measurement for right and wrong will be one that breeds a life that is short, nasty, brutish and hellish. Look at the constitution of governments all around the world. You will agree with me that no matter how beautifully crafted they are men will always make a weapon out of it. Same with every other thing that man invented or gets inspired with. There is no philosophical stance on this planet that cannot be subtly tweaked into a deadly weapon...Even your position on this matter, while it may have a solid philosophical basis in your opinion, is food to some numskull out there who will put it to such devastating use that will shock you to your marrow!

I once heard a muslim speak on men marrying more than one wife and his defense was quite lovely and at one point I reasoned with him but go to Northern Nigeria and see how that seeming harmless tradition has been thoroughly abused by people who claim to be muslims. The justification for tithing in the Bible is so enticing that even an atheist who is interested in the welfare of others will feel the warm-glow effect of paying tithes but today some idiots who parade themselves as Christians have thoroughly abused it. I have experienced some witchdoctors whose belief systems are just amazing but yet there are those who use their art to fuel the insane desires of a few to the detriment of the lives of innocent people. There are atheists who despite not believing in GOD have such exemplary lifestyles that would make any religious person go green with envy yet there are those whose atheistic position offers them the opportunity to insult, denigrate and destroy people with religious affiliations...

Stupidity was a way of life before religion came on board and religion was an attempt to cure man's stupidity but sadly the stupidity of many is so incurable that even the threat of eternal damnation could not cure it!

StaffofOrayan:
Man came before religion and man in his various attempt at understanding the creator invented ALL religion ¹
When man becomes religious, he lets go of common sense, ² example is Israel, some of the smartest people but they kill humans because of religion and openly justify it. ³
Even the bible never talks of a religious leader, it always talks about wise and foolish kings
So what is wisdom? to me wisdom is knowing and acknowledging the creator and respecting his creation.
When people start to dress up and give themselves titles then know it's man's doctrine, it's man catering to his need to belong to something. ⁴
Is that always a bad thing? of course not but people should at least know they are joining an ideology that won't advance them spiritually. ⁵
Do people need to religion to justify marrying more that 1 wives? or kill others or give to the needy on Fridays?
Your problem is you conflate religion with spirituality plus you can't seem to grasp that religion is CONTROL ⁶
You don't really understand the power religion wields over our lives. Do you even realize the church was in support of Hitler? ⁷
Albert Pike a 33rd degree mason whose religion was satanism predicted WW3 would be a religious war, and it's starting to become obvious. ⁸