bk/babe97:


Invasion of Privacy is when I stand outside your crib with a camera pointed at your window. PROTECTING MYSELF/PROPERTY is having cameras running 24-7, filming everything that happens[b] within[/b] the confines of my abode! No invasion of privacy here as far as the recording was not done with malicious intent!

FL Gators:

Well, maybe she thought he was trynna despoil her. Nigerian men should go and learn how to have se//x, always coming at  you like they wanna attack you. The kiss sef na endurance.

And it is illegal to tape her while she's having intimacy. she can sue your a$$ in court for that, criminal intent or not. Why dont you try it and letz see what happens.

bk/babe97:

   Its always fun to see people yap about what they have no idea about. No matter how sentimental this subject makes you, I'll tell u again: I can film anything that happens within [/b]the confines of my home, AS FAR AS ITS DONE WITHOUT MALICIOUS INTENT!!! I have cameras in my home, most times I dont even remember they're there, am I expected to start disconnecting everything when I bring a chic home? Are u serious?! As long as Im not sitting around with my boys and watching her moan and pant, and I'm not, say, selling the video of my se.xcapades on the net, trust me hun, I'm home free on this one!!!

 Lemme give u a few examples. See, those NFL and NBA  stars u admire so much, if you think most of them aint got cameras everything that happens [b]INSIDE [/b]their cribs, [b]INCLUDING their bedrooms, U must be off your rocker! All the groupies they take home everyday from the clubs and ish. . . . I have a friend that plays for the Bills, if u must know. And "son aint going down like that". And thats his saying!

FL Gators:

Well. . . . this makes sense IF and ONLY IF the camera was set up and always been up before the period of allegation.

HOWEVER, If the video was set up just for the period of intimacy, to record you two doing it, then she can sue your arse for

How do you define malicious intent? Letz be str8 about this one

bk/babe97:

Malicious intent is any action u take that was done with the[b] clear[/b] aim of causing harm, damage, inujry, or death. Harm (such as the case we're debating) could mean intentional infliction of emotional distress (which would most likely be the only accusation the recorded female can bring, albeit, failingly).

FL Gators:

Can you read simple English?

FL Gators:

Can you read simple English?

Nobody is telling you not to film yourself. . . . I'm saying, if she wants to sue you for invasion of privacy, then the time of installment of the tapes  can cost you a lot. Even if the cameras were put up for your safety.

If the cops found out that the cameras were put on just for the sake of video taping the "intimacy", then you can be found guilty.  And yes, with proper tech, the period of installment can be found out.  

FL Gators:

If the tapes were set up for safety only and not just to tape the intimacy [tough luck proving that], then no malicious intent.

However, if you installed the camera, to video tape the intimacy without her knowing, then there will be a problem. Especially when your house is searched and million of intimacy videos of you and other women are found in your cabinet ["for safety"]

bk/babe97:

Hun, no need to get your panties in a bunch! I know it seems like I disparaged you even after reading your post, I didnt! I guess we were posting at the same time cus I was responding to your previous post! So, yes, to answer your question: I can read simple english!




Babes, theres no time installment of anything, its all digital now and relatively cheap. There are no tapes involved!The part where u said if the cops found out that the camera was put there for the s.*e.x period. . . . ?!?! Hogwash! Not to diss u, u have no idea wut ure talking about! It all boils down to these two words: MALICIOUS INTENT!!!You want me to blow your mind a bit?  The dude I told u plays for the Bills, sometimes, he lets the female know that she's being recorded asks her if she wants to continue, and they go from there. . . .

bk/babe97:



Ok, this convo ends now! Its like Im discussing with my wall! Did u miss where I kept talking about not putting it on the internet or watching it with friends? I know ure trying your darndest to either sound smart like you know what ure talking about (which u clearly dont) or youre just sentimental about the whole "someone" potentially recording u issue. Either way, Im done. U want anything else refer to my earlier posts!

Sorry Paddy Lo ure wrong, wrong, wrong on all counts!!! Its not a crime to film whatever happens in your hour; in so far as u do so without malicious intent! If I set up the cameras, say, to help/aid/ assist law enforcement in the case of a probable burglary, then theres nothing wrong with setting up cameras within the perimeters of my property. Now, If I was having  with females, filming it, then selling it online then thats another story!

    Your second line is flawed as well. A jury that sees a video that vindicates me will be more worried about the fact that I did not inform the liar that she was being recorded than that I have been framed?!?! In what District are these jurors of yours residing? White, blacks, hispanics women r  all the same! Noone holds a monopoly in the wrongful accusation department.

     Recently, some Nigerian girl in Brooklyn accused this one dude of ra. .pe  which led to dude jumping out the window of a 4th story building in order to avoid arrest; he shattered almost every bone in his body! When the truth was revealed  it showed that the lady in question had been found having  wild s.e.xx with her man's friend (the dude that jumped out the window)by her man, was ashamed, and to stop the "insults" her man was heaping on her after he found out his boy had hit it, made up the r.a.pe story! Her man (Lets call him Abbey- - - ) had come in from Boston, they (all 3) went to a club, Abbey came home drunk, the Mrs was Hot and Abbey couldnt do his manly duties, shiyyyt his friend was there and voila. . . . .

    So, my point is. Pray it dont happen to u. Or better yet, instead of praying, just put mad cameras around the crib!

paddy_lo:

@bk babe. .
you miss the point.  .u are assuming the video will vindicate you.  .but i am assuring you the Video will make u look more as a sleazeball and help convict u

The lady can claim u despoiled her in the kitchen,or living room after the video scene. .
she can claim u attacked her after she learnt u were filming her without her consent

Its her word against u homie. . that video will just make it seem like u lure innocent girls home film them n.a.k.e.d and then kick them out
Holier than thou type of jurors will not wait to lock u up and throw away the key to protect their precious kids(s.l.u.t.s if u ask me),from u the pervert

as for your third point i guess naughty woman.es will be naughty woman.es.  .black white or green
although i still think naija chicks will be hard pressed to do u like that

FL Gators:

So your cabinet is now your internet?

Where did I say you were watching it with friends? Once again, can you or can you not comprehend simple English? You're only insulting yourself.

FL Gators:

Thank you. Like seriously, which dumba$$ goes installing camera in his house just to prevent a despoil charge?

Makes you seem more suspicious homie.

paddy_lo:

[color=#000099]@bk babe. .
you miss the point.  .u are assuming the video will vindicate you.  .but i am assuring you the Video will make u look more as a sleazeball and help convict u

[b]The lady can claim u despoiled her in the kitchen,or living room after the video scene. .

bk/babe97:

Like, for real, are you in college? How do u get good grades?! Why do u conveniently always ignore what the other person said and just keep on yapping your points! You do not make an argument like that. You win an argument by dissecting your opponents words, not gluing urs together as u go on. Where did I make reference to a cabinet full of videos? You made that assumption! Even when u made that assumption, I let you know that these days recordings are are digital!!! Did u miss that or are you the one that cant comprehend simple english? I see u keep coming at me sideways with your silly remarks, if u havent noticed I'm doing my best not to batter u verbally, keep pushing your luck tho. . . . .


 Two, I did not say you said I "was watching it with friends". I made the "watching it with friends" scenario as an example of malicious intent! Do u get it now or do u still need lessons in english?



   

 Dumbaszzes like your favorite actors, rappers, and athletes!!!




 Dude, a video that shows us walking arm in arm into my room, her taking off her clothes and helping me do same? A video that shows her panting and screaming like your favorite po*rn star will send me to the joint? I'd like to know which Jury u intend to present that case to!

 Paddy Lo, YOU are the one MISSING the point! Yes the video will exonerate me!!! Like I told Gators, READ YOUR ADVERSARY'S STATEMENT PROPERLY BEFORE MAKING A RETORT!!! She cannot claim that I ra.p.ed her AFTER any video scene because THERE IS NO AFTER IN THE RECORDINGS!!! The cameras in my home (which I used as an example) perpetually records every ,and any, events that takes place EVERYWHERE within my home and its confines!

  Yes, you and Gators are right, filming JUST the s.*ex scene is clearly an invasion of privacy, but thats not what I kept on posting (refer to my earlier posts). My position was that cameras should be installed to Perpertually film everything that happens everywhere within the home! Get it? Im not saying when we're bout to get nasty I start turning on lenses and focals. Like I said, I never even remember that I got cameras installed in my home!


    While I do not advocate that everyone whips out cameras b4 intercourse, do u sincerely think that a man is accused of despoil, is exonerated by a secret video and the next thing that will be on the D.A's mind is to "seriously" charge the mad for invasion of privacy of a false accuser? An accuser that is herself most likely on her way to prison for allowing false charges to be brought against an innocent man?

     Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt doubt that an ambitious D.A with his back to the ropes in the court of public opinion will not  attempt to bring charges against the innocent man, but, lemme give you a lil inside scoop why he'll do that (charge for invasion of privacy after bringing false accusations against an innocent): FOR LEVERAGE! The innocent man is clearly gonna wanna sue for false arrest, false imprisonment ect, the D.A is about to lose his job, so, guess what he'll do? He'll tell the dude "Yeah, youre innocent, but you violated the misses' privacy by filming the encounter". He'll charge dude with invasion of privacy, promising to have the charge dropped in exchange of dude not suing for compensation for his ordeal! Why do u think most people exonerated from charges such as this, with similar scenario, never get Civil compensation? Because they've been coerced into waiving their rights to any claim they might have.

    But assuming the innocent man decides to go "all the way", do u think the jury will convict? Huh? Especially, when they are reminded of the circumstances surrounding the case?!!? No, jury in The United States will convict; and thats going along with your scenario!!!!

FL Gators:

If the tapes were set up for safety only and not just to tape the intimacy [tough luck proving that], then no malicious intent.

However, if you installed the camera, to video tape the intimacy without her knowing, then there will be a problem. Especially when your house is searched and million of intimacy videos of you and other women are found in your cabinet ["for safety"]

bk/babe97:



Ok, this convo ends now! Its like Im discussing with my wall! Did u miss where I kept talking about not putting it on the internet or watching it with friends? I know ure trying your darndest to either sound smart like you know what ure talking about (which u clearly dont) or youre just sentimental about the whole "someone" potentially recording u issue. Either way, Im done. U want anything else refer to my earlier posts!

FL Gators:



Ewoooooo. . . .See vexation and insults. Look my dear, I have an exam to study for. . . .cant wast my time trying to explain photosynthesis to a dead plant

bk/babe97:



Nobody insulted you, dearie. Do u want me to show u where u started throwing subliminal disses, or did u conveniently forget those actions as is usual with u? Oh, and get on with studying for your exams. Remember to lay mucho emphasis on comprehension, instead of trying to battle someone that is on his way to law school on the fundamentals of the Judicial system!

FL Gators:



Listen wel. . . . Installing a camera just to tape a sexual act without the lady's permission is illegal, do you get it?!

FL Gators:



Maybe your points ont be ignored if you made them more clearer . . . .

FL Gators:



Listen wel. . . . Installing a camera just to tape a sexual act without the lady's permission is illegal, do you get it?!

My "intimacy tapes in your cabinet" reply was to rebuttal your  "without malicious act". If she wants to sue you for video taping her without her acknowledgment and cops search your "abode" for evidence and they find intimacy tapes of you and other several women in your cabinet, then your azz will be charged.

bk/babe97:

  No I dont get it! U SLOW THING! I started the camera analogy and my position was that of a camera rolling 24-7, recording all the activities in the home and within its environs; as is done in my home!  Go back to my posts since its clear u just love to argue blindly! Where did I say anything about it getting turned on just as the fun was about to start, huh? Now DO YOU GET IT?!?!





Maybe u just need to  learn the art of comprehension better. While u at it why dont ask me to come crack your skull open and speak specifically to the part of your brain that deals with understanding, maybe then u'll get it!




Was to "Rebuttal" your "malicious act"!!! Is there even any point my going ahead with this argument? Like I said all ure doing is trying hard to look smart when u have NO IDEA what ure talking about! Oh, u wanted to "Rebut" my statement about "Malicious Intent"?!? Girl, just go find a couch and sit your aszz somewhere cause right about now ure just killing me softly like Lauryn Hill! You might be good in other things in life,but, the english language and the Law are clearly not part of them!




P.S: Since ure such a stubborn she-goat that only hears herself: And if the cops search and do not see any tapes, since my cameras record digitally, what then? Or did u also miss where I explained to you that recordings nowadays are digital? Clearly u did! Always take the time to read, instead of letting excitement to retort take u over. Its clear that in real life ure a terrible listener! Try calmness, it works and beats the hell outta brawn!

My advice simply is be careful. There is nothing so different or cool about them. My African queen anytin me anywhere is the answer. apologies to those married to well brought responsible middle class oyibos but boy has anyone stopped to compare an old Naija 50-60 women and oyibo women of their ages? the difference is clear. Therefore in addition to the danger they pose to many young men they age very quickly and lack manners or respect for anyone. I know one unfortunate 19 year old naija who was imprisoned for 12 years for allegedly despoiling two under aged twin sisters who actually followed him from the club and swore that they are above 18 and simply fantasied about a three some. he fell for it. they got away with it but he is still languishing in prison. The advice is stay away from these girls whenever possible. A typical naija bird will never lie about a thing like that if she does her parents and her "pastor" will be there to admonish her and get the truth out of her before it goes really wrong. for the girls in Texas, they are confused and lost.

jensinmi:

The guy has my deepest condolences. However, I honestly do believe there's a lesson to be learnt from this.

I've learnt this one thing from my Mother

A man MUST not sleep with every woman that throws herself/ offers herself to him.


This is NUCKING FUTS!!! Am I the only one that gets this point?? Is it normal for a guy to take home a woman he doesn't know and just met for a few minutes in a club. Is that responsible?? Why are some men this spoilt??
Look at this scenario:
You're busy doing "fine boy/ fine man" in a club and a woman walks up to you and says "hello,  your perfume smells great. Oh, btw,  I won't mind having you tonight" and you say "YES"and take her to your house?? Come on. Is this not insanity?? This is wrong as far as I'm concerned o and shows one to be highly irresponsible and loose.


Now going on to this young man. I think he should kneel down and be thanking God for having mercy on him and  also thank all those that rose to his defense. It is true the woman lied, but let us not forget that this represents only few of the cases. There are really men out there that despoil women who come across their path. Look at the son of Prof. Adeniran in the US for example who was caught on tape gang-despoiling a woman. To this end, a woman will always get benefit of the doubt in First world countries.

This is the 21st century, DNA evidence exists and is now almost always used in despoil cases. In first world countries, it would be difficult for a woman to claim you despoiled her unless there is one piece of evidence,  and that evidence is semen. But DNA evidence doesn't help you much if you indeed had intimacy with the woman. If your semen is present on the despoil kit, then you are in a lot of trouble. Bearing this in mind, why can't men be more careful about where they stick there "elements". He wasn't a fool. We know that. He was an educated young man. So,  why?? If not for an inability to control ones urge will he do something like have intimacy with a woman who approaches you in a club and says I want to be with you TONIGHT. Not even a woman he approached o. A woman who approached him. WTF!! The more common thing is for guys to chase girls in a club. Not a girl coming to you and telling you that she wants you "TONIGHT". Not that I'm saying one is better than the other.
There are many ways this could have ended badly.
-It coulda ended as just a fling.
-She coulda cried foul later and said he did and didn't want to pay her dues but it ended this way (BADLY)

Once again, I celebrate with this young man. "Mo ba e yo o".

But in my own humble opinion, I wish to state that this whole charade or "she-bang" would not have happened if he had not done something that I and a lot of Nigerians would consider foolish, reckless and irresponsible. Nowadays, in such countries, it is difficult to get prosecuted for despoiling a woman you never had intimacy with. To this end he cannot stand blameless in all that happened. Yeah,  he's not guilty o but a lot of people won't say he's 100% innocent. At least not innocent of gross stupidity. His parents didn't send him to the UK to "get his groove on"

I do hope this serves as a lesson to all those playas, ballers, shotcallers, "pimps,"ladies' men, fine boys, Doni Donis and other young men who think they can eat their cakes and have it and haven't yet gotten it into their heads that actions have consequences and these consequences are not always what we expect them to be. You can't always play with fire and expect never to get burnt.

He must have thought this cake was another he would eat and have at the same time. I don't even know if some of his friends may have urged him in the club - She want's you. Go ahead. Je mbe. Chop up. Enjoy your life!!!
May God punish all "friends" that wish to lead us astray. Awon Onijekuje!!

Please, Please, Please Let us all consider the consequences of our actions before taking decisions.

Thank you very much. Y'all have a great day.

In the words of a great man - "I pity the fool"