THIS IS ONE OF MANY FALSE PREACHERS LIKE MUHAMED BENNY HINN AND BILLY GRAHAM

Juanita Bynum lies to the audience in one of her most shameless statements yet (amongst so many I've lost count). The "success" of her ministry is her "honesty"?! She's "never tried to pull the wool over the people of God's head?!" And then having the gall nerve to "minister" to a hurting woman? This woman needs sound biblical counsel from a truly honest and Godly individual, not a fraudulent profitess who has built an empire off of deceit.

Examples of Profitess Bynum's "honesty"

Her adulterous marriage to the effeminate "Bishop" Thomas Weeks III. How can you prophesy on a couple's marriage and then marry the man you prophesied on some months later? (Fittingly their marriage is filled with: "the ghetto in me just rose up", "I drew my coffee cup back to throw it at him, then I realized where I was",(him being her husband) "I threw my cellphone and it hit his car and busted all to pieces!" (she threw her cellphone at his car when he was leaving after one of their many arguments) "Wesley I will knock your head off""put that brick down, Juanita! You better not hit me wit' no brick" (she repeated what her hubby told her during one of their many moments of wedded bliss)

The "fake" wedding that was broadcast to millions on TBN and sold to Lord knows how many more. (For the details check out the video entitled: Wedding of the Century?! The union/merger of Bynum-Weeks inc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVktRi, The Bynum-Weeks corp. had already "merged" err "married" previous to this moneygrubbing debacle that occured on WALL STREET mind you! Wall Street?! Why not a church? But actually Wall Street was the perfect setting to launch the Bynum-Weeks IPO. (I.dolatrous P.rofiting O.peration) Wall Street represents everything that this dynamic duo is about: Money, greed, and the unbiblical way.

The phony "humility" exuded by the Profitess who can go feigning modesty as she softly flatters (Prov 20:19b)her host ministers from the pulpit at various engagements before launching into a acid tongued tirade on the congregation that would put an acid dipped cat o nine tail to shame (Jas 3:8-12) ("am I just gonna have to be the Dr. Ruth of Christiandom or what?", "your husband is sick of you", "Me and my husband could have went on out somewhere, went on to dinner and lit us some candles and stuff. A whole lotta churches not even having sunday night service". etc.

Declaring a desire for "eternal consecration and holiness" and yet using that same mouth to promote sexual perversion at the infamous Teach me how to Love you conference.

Creating conferences that claim to spiritually enrich and yet having a hidden agenda to teach false doctrines, indulge in sinful perversions and impart devils to the attendees while making them pay $$$ for it.

Using the powers of darkness to manipulate and control multitudes.
And much, much, much more,

She said that she "felt the best preach that anybody could ever have is their life", and yet her life is littered with lies, deceit, blatant manipulation, greed and perversion. And this is not from her past "unsaved" life folks. We're talking about the here and now. She then has the nerve to say and I quote "You can quote me all the scriptures in the world, but if you can't really show me how this word has affected your life, then you're preaching to me a message, but you're not imparting anything to me." Sounds like Juanita is caught in her own lie. The word of God has not affected her life at all and yet she is preaching to multitudes and claiming to be a Prophetess?! Juanita spoke the truth in that a person whose life isn't affected by the word of God is preaching a message that imparts nothing to the recipient. Unfortunately for the her recipients that statement applies to her and therefore to them. Juanita's "messages" impart nothing of value to anyone but her father Satan who is using her lies to decieve and destroy millions.

Don't buy into the lies of Profitess Bynum, but rather Buy the truth, and sell it not;(Prov 23:23a) according to the word of God. Seek God for his truth and allow his Spirit to guide you into all truth (Jn 16:13). If you do this you will be able to see thru the lies of the false profits/profitesses and see God's word affect your life in a way that you will truly be able to not just preach a message, but impart God's truth with the fruit being the saving of souls.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Jn 17:17,19

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Jn 8:32

Wow!! !! Indepth and sizzling hot!!

MORE FROM THIS JEZEBELIC WOMAN

At Teach me how to love you 2006 "Judge" Juanita made her first (and unfortunately not to be the last) appearance. During her appearance she gave out "advice" to married couples seeking counseling. She was supposed to be helping to save marriages. But how can she counsel and save marriages when her own is a sham? Built on adultery, lies, deceit and hidden agendas. The Bynum-Weeks "marriage" was really a corporate merger that has made this couple exceedingly rich. Since when have you ever seen a marriage launch so many conferences, books, tapes, cds, dvds and other money making ventures? The Teach me how to love you conferences are ran by liars, hypocrites and homosexuals and yet these people can strengthen marriages when their own are complete shams full of hypocrisy? Juanita is not motivated by a desire to help people, but rather motivated by the bottom-line: $MONEY$. Don't believe it? During this same evening she bragged that she made "good money" and that her husband giving her $500-600 a week was "no money". Some people don't even make that in an entire week working 9 to 5 jobs.

And how is a prophetess who preaches the unedited word of God making "good money"? The true prophets in the Bible were not rich (ie John the Baptist) and were never highly esteemed by the world (ie Jeremiah). Juanita is making "good money" because she is teaching people how to love each other for a BIG PROFIT with advice she doesn't follow herself. She is beloved by the world because she is of the world (Luke 6:26). If she was a true PROPHETESS she would devote herself to holiness(behind the scenes and not a pharisical show of it in front of the scenes), saving of souls and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ (which also means to preach vehemently against sin and that doesn't make you "good money" by any stretch of the imagination). However because she is a true PROFITESS, she devotes herself to hypocrisy (plenty of sham "holiness" in front of the scenes with none behind the scenes), sending souls to hell (while making them think they are on their way to heaven) and preaching the gospel of sex which has allowed her to profit and make "good money". The damage that is done to the individuals involved and their marriages is truly priceless as they seek help only to recieve hell in return.

God doesn't use hypocrites, liars and false prophets to minister to his people because he knows this person will make the individual twofold more a child of hell as themselves (Matt 23:15). A nugget of truth is the bait of the devil to make you accept a barrel of lies. Don't be fooled and don't waste your money on these charlatans who have used their famous marriage to make a buck. When seeking guidance on any matter you should always use the word of God as your guide. Prayer, fasting, seeking God's face and accepting his will will bring true guidance. He can also lead you to people whom he can truly use to help you and not exploit you (especially for gain).

@Babyosisi

I am sorry We will have to break the party here she is a Charlatan and she no more than a mere sinner that is on her way to hell. I am not afraid of her I will bring more people out. I may not post it here.

As a Christian You don't need goggles to know who is one. This fake is too Glaring. If you see anyone sinning will follow the person?

WHAT DO I THINK? I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HAVE MERCY OVER HER AND SAVE HER FROM HER SINS.

Please what do you have against her?

@Babyosisi

There are Just so many the bible has against her not me I am nobody.

If you read the my previous post on this thread you see what I am saying.

Bynum full name is

Genesis 1 Verse
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

She never lost her name when she married her husband.

Juanita Bynum Weeks

please I sincerely know that this woman is going to hell please Lord help this woman.

@Babyosisi

Her adulterous marriage to the effeminate "Bishop" Thomas Weeks III. How can you prophesy on a couple's marriage and then marry the man you prophesied on some months later? (Fittingly their marriage is filled with: "the ghetto in me just rose up", "I drew my coffee cup back to throw it at him, then I realized where I was",(him being her husband) "I threw my cellphone and it hit his car and busted all to pieces!" (she threw her cellphone at his car when he was leaving after one of their many arguments) "Wesley I will knock your head off""put that brick down, Juanita! You better not hit me wit' no brick" (she repeated what her hubby told her during one of their many moments of wedded bliss)

Is this not fraudulent.

Oh Ok may be she repented.  Now let us look at scripture I was for looking for this yesterday night before i went to sleep.

When she married her husband she did not loose her name but Merged her name with her husbands name. going against the bible

Genesis 5
1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name[b] Adam[/b], in the day when they were created.


God called the family by the name of the man. Look at her very well.

I do not know about this prophecy you talk about so I can't comment there.

Her adulterous marriage to the effeminate "Bishop" Thomas Weeks III.

And why do you call her marriage adulterous?
Is she also with another man or is her husband seeing other women?
I see no reason for you to condemn her in such harsh manner.
Her husband effeminate?,dear stop this,he did not create himself,are you blaming God for the way he was made if indeed he is "effeminate"

Fittingly their marriage is filled with: "the ghetto in me just rose up", "I drew my coffee cup back to throw it at him, then I realized where I was",(him being her husband) "I threw my cellphone and it hit his car and busted all to pieces!" (she threw her cellphone at his car when he was leaving after one of their many arguments)

Then as for fights,which married couple has never had heated arguments.
Have you never lost your temper,if so why are you so judgemental?

She kept her last name Bynum and hyphenated it with her married name weeks,you do not call her Jezebel for that.
She already had a ministry before she got married and that is the name everyone knows maybe that's why she kept it.
You cannot condemn and call her names for it.

God called the family by the name of the man. Look at her very well

Do you mean her physical appearance?
what is wrong with her?

@babyosisi

PLEASE READ WITH CARE.

A preacher woman's mantra--`No more sheets!'--has shown millions of single sisters a spiritual path toward personal integrity, self-respect and living in fulfillment and peace with our God-given sexuality

If you didn't happen to join 17,000 folks attending Bishop T.D. Jakes's 1998 singles' conference in Dallas, let me fill you in on the now famous "No More Sheets" sermon delivered by a 42-year-old preacher woman known as Prophetess Juanita Bynum. In offering her message, this sister dipped into her private business in a way few ministers ever have before: Through shouts and waving handkerchiefs, she riveted the audience with a nakedly honest account of her own struggles with her physical longing for a man and rampant lustful pursuits--and she even trotted out a few bedsheets to make her point. By the end of the session, the crowd of sisters of every age was on its feet chanting her mantra: "No More Sheets! No More Sheets! No More Sheets!"

Bynum's sermon on unhealthy sexual obsessions was so forthright, fiery and Sojourner Truth-ful, the video-taped recording (Juanita Bynum Ministries, $20) is now widely known among Black women as, simply, the video. The tape was soon followed by a book, No More Sheets: The Truth About Sex (Pneuma Life Publishing, available for $19.99 at pneumalife.com).


The video alone has sold more than a million copies and spawned a revolution of sorts among Black women--including No More Sheets video parties in sisters' living rooms not unlike the ones that heralded the video release of Waiting to Exhale. There's something undeniably real about Prophetess Bynum's words--especially when she's talking about sex: She has been there, done that and knows whereof she speaks.

After her parents raised her and her four siblings in a toe-tappin', tambourine-bustin' Pentecostal church in Chicago, Bynum, still a virgin at 21, married and moved to Port Huron, Michigan. But her marital partnership unraveled "inch by inch," she says, and her husband left her after only a year and a half. "I married for sex--and for what the man looked like," she admits. "Everybody told me he wasn't right, but I was screamin', `I'm in love. I can change him.'"

The pain of their 1983 separation precipitated a collapse that put Bynum in the hospital for three weeks. After her divorce became final in 1985, she fell into a series of sexual escapades. More than one sugar daddy lured her with smooth talk and promises of material generosity--but the serial drama in her life left her more scattered and even emptier than her failed marriage. "I got tired of men with their hands in my underwear," she confesses on the video. "It was too expensive."

If Juanita Bynum's inner life back then was stormy, her work life was gagging for its last breath. She had struggled in odds-and-ends gigs while she was married. Desperate to anchor her finances and her emotions after her messy divorce and her subsequent unhealthy attachments, she reached out for the life jacket of welfare. In 1990 she moved from Michigan back to her hometown of Chicago and went to beauty school to become a hairdresser, a job that helped her get off public assistance after two years. She then left the beauty business to become a flight attendant for the now-defunct Pan American Airways, the company that transferred her to where she lives these days--New York City.

It was in 1991, when Pan Am went belly-up, that Juanita, emotionally buoyed and spiritually resuscitated after attending the New Greater Bethel Ministries in New York, decided to get back to what she dubs her "call"--preaching. She had sampled it previously at 17 and 18, when she was still living under her parents' roof. "My friends said that God shut Pan Am down because I wouldn't go and preach," she says. "I knew God was saying that this was my destiny, but I didn't want to hear it."

Ten years ago she finally stopped ignoring that prompt. Through her church, Juanita began speaking, as she had done as a teenager, in small venues of 50 or so women around the country. In 1996 she met the Pentecostal evangelist Bishop T.D. Jakes (author of the 1994 inspirational best-seller Woman, Thou Art Loosed!), and he invited her to the singles' conference in Dallas that year. Though Jakes knew little about Juanita's own ministry or personal life, the bishop told her he felt God had something momentous for her to say. Indeed, the message she had prepared to deliver at a small women's breakfast went over so well that he invited her to address the much larger group who would show up that evening for the main event.

Two years later on the night she delivered the "No More Sheets" message to yet another singles' conference audience, Bynum hadn't even penned her sermon beforehand. "When I got on that platform," she says, "that message had a voice of its own. It wasn't from me--it was from God." If you eye her closely on the video, you can sense she is winging it: With the organ pipin' up in the background, Juanita sprints from one corner of the stage to the other and leads the audience in a round of call and response, hurling out rhetorical questions like "How can you help somebody if you don't tell anybody where you been?" and "Can I get at least one sister in here to just be honest tonight?"

As a CHILD OF GOD YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIVORCE BE YOU WHO.

GOD BLESS YOU

DONT GET ME WRONG OH!
GOD CAN STILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT HER BUT SHE MUST COME TO THE THRONE OF GRACE. SHE NEEDS REPENTANCE AND FORSAKE ALL HER SINFUL WAYS.

Backslider:

DONT GET ME WRONG OH!
GOD CAN STILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT HER BUT SHE MUST COME TO THE THRONE OF GRACE. SHE NEEDS REPENTANCE AND FORSAKE ALL HER SINFUL WAYS.

what sinful ways?
You dig up some writings by an enemy of the cross,parade it as the truth and talk about repentance,how dare you?
A woman uses her past life as a testimony of what God can do and you join the heathen to thrash her.
Be careful dear,your words have absoluely no love but condemnation.
Let he who thinks he stands,take heed.
You as a Christian should know that the world will not say anything good about a child of God.
You should know better.

@babyosisi

I have listened to some of her pornographic preachings. Her New husband Father (Rev. Weeks Snr) is also involved in this. The Write up by someone that interviewed and you should just listen to her. She has not repented from her ways and this is Glaringly portrayed in her messages, Please listen to them.

This obversation is from her messages and you just Listen to it.

As she goes up Higher the hill of the Charlatan you Just watch her you will see what I am saying, There are so many False teachers gone into us and we must be watchful within and without.

I am mindful of the fact that everyday is a battle in the Life of a true Christian. I will take your Loving advice.

@Babyosisi

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS.


Bishop(?) Weeks lives in adultery with a divorced woman - Juanita. If she is a prophetess, how come she does not live according to the Word of the Lord? (see 1 Cor. 7:10-11) Doesn't it appear she's living large and loving it? According to the Word - "He [she] that loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him [her]." Test the spirits according to the Word.

Juanita Bynum

Juanita Bynum appeared at Mega Fest 2004 with the following speakers: Creflo Dollar, Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Bishop Eddie Long, and Bishop T. D. Jakes.

Juanita Bynum:

"Pick up the phone! Keep dialing! Push redial! Oh, thank you Jesus. What's $1,000.00 when it's your time for divine release? What's $300.00 when it's your time for divine release? Single mother--I hear the Lord say, '$300.00 seed!' 7000 people God said, '$1,000.00' He said, 'Obey Him because the waters troubled!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)

"Pick up the phone! Pick up the phone! Come on! God's talking to you!, It's your night for a divine release! You say, 'Woman of God--it's my last $1,000.00' It ain't your last--it's your favor! It's your favor! If you're watching by television tonight you may have nothing but $20.00 in your pocket. You better put it in an envelope--run down the street to the mailbox! Put it in the mailbox! Because you got to release something from your house tonight! Tonight is divine release! Tonight is divine release!, Tonight is divine release! I'm talking to you single mother. Every single parent--God dares you to sow a seed of $300.00. It's your divine release seed! You ain't got no place to turn! Come on! You're one check away from a divine release!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)

", You got a $1,000.00 in your checking account and you right at the last bit. But I promise you--if you turn it over to God and give it to God--He said, 'By 12 o'clock midnight the waters are troubled for you."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"The Holy Ghost has already spoken to me that there are 7,000 people that are watching right now. 7,000 people that God said, 'I'm requiring that you release this seed of divine release.' And you watch and see. You release that seed by 12 o'clock midnight and God will begin to turn it around!, God said, 'By midnight tonight divine release goes into operation!'"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"I got to say it one more time, 'The water is troubled.' There's somebody watching--you better get your wallet, it's troubled! You better shut your ears to the devil. They said, 'Yeah, that's television--they just want some more money!' No it isn't! The Lord has sent a prophet to tell you, 'That tonight your divine release--it takes place tonight!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)

"If you can't believe God to release a seed for a $1,000.00, He'll never trust you with a million! Oh my God!--I just said something. If you can't trust God to provoke you to release a seed of $300.00 He'll never be able to trust you in a ministry! Because this is your testing ground. This right here is your proving ground!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"You're sitting there--all of your bills are due. You're sitting there with a $300.00 seed. When you don't even know that what you got in your hand is your favor. You don't even know that your last seed--the seed that you give with pressure is your favor seed."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"Your miracle is attached to what's in your pocket right now! You're trying to hold on to it, but God sent me to tell you to, 'Let it go! Let it go!'"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"God said, 'Pick up the phone right now!' He said, '1,000 persons, you are going to sow the $1,000 seed.' You got to! You got to tonight! There is a miracle on it! I know what I'm talking about! He brought me in here to tell you that!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"Somebody right here in television land, God said, '$1,000.' You're sitting there saying, 'You know what? All I got is $1,000.' If that's all you got, oh Jesus! Then you got the miracle seed in your hand!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"Some of ya'll sitting there holding your wallet, God said, 'Give it to me! Give it to me! Give it to me! Show me how much you love me! Give it to me! I want to know if you're mine! If you're really mine. How come you can't hear me say, write the check?'"
(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"You've got to release something--no I'm talking to you. Come on! Hear me tonight--you've got to release something! You've got to release it now! What's a $1,000.00 in exchange for eternal victory? Let me tell you something--pick up the phone right now! You need to go to the phone! It's time for you to sow! Because in order for God to give it to you you've got to divinely release something. What is a divine release seed? It is a seed that I can't afford to give, One check away from your breakthrough! One check away from your deliverance! Pick up the phone! It's a divine release!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"Forget about the man. And I want you to sow a seed of $20,000. I said, 'God, wait a minute. That's all I got. I said, 'In that is my payroll, I got to pay my people.' But God said, 'Let me tell you something. In order to get something that you ain't never had, you got to do something that you don't never do.' God who am I talking to tonight? Cause the Holy Ghost told me, 'That this is $1,000 night!' [Speaking in "tongues"] He said, 'This is $1,000 night!' I said, 'God why you say that?' He said, 'Because what I want to do, if they went past the twenties, if they went past the hundreds. He said, 'I'm looking for miracle people now! I'm looking for people that got big vision. I'm looking for someone that know that they know, that God got a divine destiny prepared for their life.' And if you got to go and bake cookies, if got to go and sell pies. I gotta get to my destiny! I gotta sow!!!!"

(Juanita Bynum, Audio-Clip, Bible Answerman, Hank Hanegraaff, March 27, 2004)

"Some of you watching and you might be saying, 'Let me pray about it and see if God is talking to me.' You don't have to see if God is talking to you if you got a $77.00 seed offering in any bank account or pocket. He is talking to you. You need to pick up the phone because I'm telling you, tonight there is an anointing in this studio with your name on it. You need to get a seed into the network tonight."

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"I'm going to get my seed in the ground because what I make happen for somebody else, God is going to make happen for me. Pick up the phone! I don't care if the lines are busy for half the night. Keep on trying! Put it on redial! Put it on redial! Tell the Devil that, 'I got an emergency! I need something! I need something from God and God needs something from me!'"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"Pick up the phone! It may be your last $77.00 seed offering. But you pick up the phone and you make that pledge. Because God is ready to turn some things around for you!"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"I feel an anointing for healing right now! I feel an anointing for healing right now! Every sick person that is watching me by television right now, your body is being healed! And in 48 hours you're going into a speedy recovery. [She speaks in tongues] Somebody help me bless the Lord. I speak healing now! I break the spirit of infirmity right now! Satan, I cast you out of that hospital room. I cast you out of that bedroom. I speak strength in the name of Jesus. I command your body to be healed!"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

Marcus Lamb: "If you're one of those three people that the Lord spoke through me moments ago about a million dollar gift. Whether you're that professional athlete, whether you're that successful businessman or whether you're that woman that has been blessed. You do what the Lord is telling you to do. Because, when God speaks about a significant seed, He has a significant miracle on His mind."

Jaunita Bynum: "Yes!"

Marcus Lamb: "God doesn't play games! And that's serious business when you start talking about levels like that."

Jaunita Bynum: "That's Right!"

Marcus Lamb: "That's because God has a significant miracle on His mind

(Marcus Lamb, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"Because of the vastness of the corruption in our society, the Lord's work cannot be finished with just the male gender."

(Juanita Bynum, Article, "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

When Chicago evangelist Juanita Bynum went on a 21-day fast, she said the Lord informed her she would minister to the masses. But when a Chicago minister invited her to speak before 4,000 people, she told God that all the female ministers she knew had been to Rhema or Oral Roberts universities. "This is the college I'm sending you through so you'll be well-schooled in who I am," she says the Lord replied.

(Juanita Bynum, Article, "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

"Every time I got on my knees I kept hearing Him [God] say, 'Before I knew you I formed you in your mother's womb to be a prophet to the nations.'"

(Juanita Bynum, Interview, Ministries Today, July-August 1999)

"And He [God] said, 'In order to be set free, in order for you to get your healing you got to get up and do something that defies the Devil. And I got the mic that morning Bishop Jakes, I had not been able to talk, had not been able to use my voice. And the power of God took me up in prayer and the Lord began to say, 'You will preach. The Devil cannot shut the mouth of the prophet. He said, Cuz the book of Jeremiah says, Before I knew you. Before you were born, in your mothers womb. I called you to be a prophet to the nations.' And I'm only half-way there."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN July 6, 2004, T. D. Jakes was the host)

Note: Juanita Bynum spoke in tonuges numerous without an interpreter. This of course violates Scripture:

"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God," 1 Corinthians 14:27-28.
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So you believe this liar who says that God must be paid before you can be delivered or healed ?

2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Serious statement from God's Word huh?


"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But you, O man of God, flee these things . . . " (1 Tim. 6:10-11a).

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Ya gotta love eye witnesses.


A toothache and sore throat are keeping us up late tonight, so we idly switched over to TBN to see what was going on in the world of wacky word-faith. There’s Juanita Bynum in a white robe, surrounded by men and women dressed all in black. Some interesting notes:

“You need to send a thousand dollars. If you can’t send a thousand, send five hundred… if all you have is a nickel, wrap it in tissue and put it in an envelope. If all you have is your clothes, send them.”
“If you want the power, you have to sow the seed [clearly referring to sending her money in context].” (See Acts 8 below.)
“We’re going together into a spirit of wealth.”
“Last night, you sowed to your ability. Tonight, you sow beyond your ability.”
“‘I need [to give] because I need favor. I need it because I need an anointing. I need it because I need power.’” (Her speaking for the people who give to her tonight.)
“‘I’m giving because I want my daughters to be daughters of Zion.’” (Again speaking for those who are giving to her.)
“You’ve got three days to get that into your mailbox. I’m not afraid to say this. I am walking in my authority… if you don’t postmark it by the tenth, we will not accept it. [I’d like confirmation of that.] God says you have three days to get your thousand-dollar seed in the mail.”
“Give it to me and you will live. Give it to me and you will have more than enough.” (She claims to be speaking for the Lord, actually.)
“If all you have is $79.36, I double-dare you to empty your bank account. Close your account.”
Compare Acts 8:

Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was bestowed through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, saying, “Give this authority to me as well, so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have no part or portion in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bondage of iniquity.”

On several occasions she told her audience that they were like the Macedonians in 2 Corinthians 8, because God was going to bless them for giving beyond their means. Of course, nobody ever says whether the money given by these “modern-day Macedonians” is going to help needy people (like Paul’s offerings were in the Epistles, mostly to help needy believers in Jerusalem, and not to further his own ministry), or whether this is just to keep TBN on the air all over the world, and keep Juanita Bynum able to rent out stadiums and buy lots of tallits and bedsheets she can sell for one thousand dollars a pop on television.

Perhaps the worst part was when she had her people spread out enough white tallits (the traditional Jewish garment worn in prayer and study) to cover the entire stage behind her. She announced that she would be walking on them, and sprinkling olive oil on them, and people who gave (the most often suggested amount was one thousand dollars) would receive these (or pieces of these). They were supposed to wear them at all times for twenty-one days; to wrap them around themselves, to put them on their children, to slip them under their mattresses.

I cannot tell you how revolting it was to see that false teacher walk on the symbol of God’s Holy Word, that symbol of our Lord’s authority, with Jan Crouch walking behind her and pouring olive oil on her hands so she could douse the tallits. Then we saw the cameraman, who had to step on the tallits himself so he could follow Juanita and Jan across the stage. It really amazed me, to see her doing in front of the camera what she had been doing for years through her words — walking on God’s Word, treading underfoot the Truth, as if it were dung to her.

Finally the long “prayer” at the end, where Juanita walked or knelt on the stage, babbling at the tallits (“ma ma ma ma sha ba sai ah ma ma ma”). The cameraman still stood in front of her, catching every move of this woman in her co-opted “priestly robes,” with Jan Crouch now bowing in her direction, moving her arms up and down like Wayne and Garth saying “we’re not worthy.” Now she’s wiping her sweat with the tallits she has been walking on, and screaming “Oh God!” over and over.

More notes from the tallit and prayer cloth part:

“You cannot violate the principle. [To the people coming forward for pieces of the prayer cloths] You have to give. If you don’t have any money then you’d better get a penny in your hand or something.”
(Refusing to give the pieces of prayer cloths to children) “I can’t give this to kids. It’s too heavy.” (Often Juanita would skip the kids, but they could get them from Jan, who was next in line.)
“The Lord told me to give you these socks… In your time of prayer, you are to wear them, and you will walk in authority. Be careful what you say, because what you say will come to pass.” (Yes, Juanita gave some woman the socks she was wearing when she walked on the tallits.)
Why can this woman scream until her vocal cords are frayed, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to have class this weekend because of the sore throat? Why do the wicked prosper?

This is not my God. This is not the worship which my God demands of me. This is not repentance and contrition; this is a new sacrificial cult, with TBN as the priests, a television studio as a Temple, and money instead of animals. But never in this hour-plus tirade was there a call to repentance. The call was to give money. No repentance. No study of the Word. No call to obedience. No, that’s what the tallit stands for, and that’s what she was and is walking on.

If you can watch this and not recognize naked greed, and not recognize the veritable reincarnation of Simon Magus in this woman and all her cronies, then you are indeed blind. The Lord can open your eyes, but He doesn’t want your money. He wants your life.

We just noticed a few things about the tallits. They have something like “The Power of Prayer” written on them. (What do they have to do with prayer, as far as Yeshua is concerned? Not a great deal, really.) Also of interest was the fact that some of them didn’t have tzitzit (the long tassels at the corners), which are the only connection between tallits and the Torah (the Torah does not command to wear tallits, it commands that four-cornered garments must have tzitzit). So, she is spreading around a Jewish tradition, while deliberately making some of them violate the Torah she is claiming to teach, by removing the tzitzit. And this honors the Lord… how?

She just told somebody that the tallit was “the greatest thing I could ever give you” (which is probably true, since she does not appear to be qualified to teach the Word).

To a man with the full clerical collar: “I didn’t call you to conservative Christianism, I called you to be a man who walked in deliverance.” To another preacher: “This prayer shawl shall usher you to another level. Your heart will be changed. Divine revelation when you read the scripture shall come into your mind.”

She appeared to cast demons out of at least two people who came forward. Then they pushed them down the assembly line.

You should see the disappointment on people’s faces when Juanita skips them (as far as I can tell, it’s just because there are so many people coming forward). They look shattered, as if the Lord Himself rejected them. The Lord will judge that woman for every heart she breaks in His name.

It’s starting to wrap up. The ministers and so forth in the back are lying around on tallits and sheets — it looks like somebody blew up the mime factory.

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You call this woman a prophet?
I call her a wolf in sheeps clothing that fleeses the flock

Backslider:

@Babyosisi
please I sincerely know that this woman is going to hell please Lord help this woman.

@Babyosisi,
My dear sister, I wonder why you are joining issues with 'backslider' who is seriously 'backsliding in faith' at a serious pace. If you read a couple of my last posts to him, I have warned him about his Pharisee-like faith. O' you generation of vipers, who are always so quick to condemn first and judge later. Backslider is like a fisherman who will rather first clean a fish, before catching it. No wonder his net of faith is likely to be empty.
A simple way to know a Christian who is not led by the Spirit of God is one who is always so quick to criticise and condemn. They are the ones with the large phylacteries, who prefer to shout out loud at the roof-top, make long prayers, choose the chief sits at the occasions. They claim to have read the Bible more than 10 times, but it is obvious the Bible has never read them. Look no further; Backslider is a chief among the Pharisee-christians. Perfect name for him.
He needs prayers because it appears he is frustrated. That is a ploy of the devil on immature but loud pharisees.
Rather than rejoice in tribulation, they give in to the devil, become bitter towards those that God is prospering calling them prosperity preachers. Backslider, relax and chill, God is in Control.

Babyosisi, I beg, go find something better to do after praying for this guy. I enjoy your posts.

@Batu,

Please Batu I beg you in the name of God that you Claim you serve.

Let us Suppose I am writing from hell, Supposing i am a sinner, worse than Pharisee, the Scribe and I don't know the Bible. Let me ask you Does that Run away from the fact that it is the truth I am saying?

I have stated my case so that people will know the truth of this people calling themselves Men and Women of God.

I say read the bible the pure word of God. Leave out this people Mark them The bible says.

WHICH WORD WILL YOU TAKE JESUS OR THAT OF MEN.

FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS VERY SERIOUS.

APOSTLE PAUL SAID "

2 Corinthians 11

1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

5For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

6But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

7Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

8I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

9And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.

10As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.

11Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.

12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

16I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.

17That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.

18Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.

19For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.

20For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.

21I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.

22Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.

23Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

24Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

25Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

26In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

27In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and unclothedness.

28Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

29Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?

30If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.

31The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

32In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:

33And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands


THIS IS PAUL STATEMENT. MAY YOU WOULD CALL PAUL WHAT ?

READ WITH UNDERSTANDING = SELAH

@rapidly-backsliding-Backslider,
You've just confirmed your appelate of a flipping ignorant pharisee. (Note, this is not name-calling, but proper description of your position)
In 'your' judgement, Juanita Bynum can be described or can be seen in the long-post or Bible verse you displayed above.
Did she give her life to you or to Jesus?; did she appropriate for herself your sacrifice on the cross or that of Jesus?

Backsliding Bacslider, I am not defending Juanita, neither will I accuse her. Are your criticisms justified?; that is confounded by your own understanding or wisdom (which appears very limited with all due respect) since you've decided to copy and paste from a website.
Dont bother to post another long post from the Bible you've read but clearly do not understand just like your other Pharisees. Wear your phylacteries, and keep on shouting at the roof-top.

This is quite unfortunate,all this false accusations.
This womans ministry has blessed me tremendously and all I have is love for her and her candid sincerity.
She is a worshipper and one with a sincere heart of a child.
I love her and for anyone to join ranks with the world to tanish her like they do all men and women of God is ludicrous.

Backslider,you need to taste the real Jesus and an infilling of the Holy Ghost.
He'll give you love for all people moreso for those in the household of faith.

@batu

I most say that I read your mail and I can tell you that you have your own opinion of scripture. I cannot impose my idea on you and I have said the truth.

I am don't intend for you or anyone to applaud as this woman is not ready to repent. I have told you that lets us SAY I WAS NEVER BORN AGAIN AM I NOT SAYING THE TRUTH?

SHOULD AS THE BODY OF CHRIST TOLERATE SIN?

OK IF I HAVE JUDGED HER WRONGLY WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME WHERE I HAVE GONE WRONG!!!!

I HAVE LISTENED TO HER MESSAGE YOU ARE NEVER BOTHERED TO KNOW THE TRUTH YOU THINK THAT COVERING AN EVIL WILL MAKE THE "CHRISTIANITY" BETTER ACCEPTED? THAT IS A LIE.

THIS THREAD WAS OPENED TO EXPOSE FALSE PREACHERS. IF YOU HAVE NY PROBLEM WITH THAT PLEASE EXPOSE ME. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL ME ANY NAME YOU LIKE, I WILL NEVER CALL YOU NAMES EXCEPT IT BE WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS AND DIRECT.

IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY POST FROM A WEBSITE PLEASE DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT DISPUTES THIS PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME I WILL APOLOGISE AND WRITE A REJOINDER THREAD.

PLEASE I AM VERY FAR FROM AMERICA BUT SHE HAS GRIP ON WOMAN THAT WILL GO DOWN THIS DAUGHTER OF JEZEBEL!

IF SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF CHRIST I WILL TELL YOU SO. THERE ARE OTHER WOMEN THAT PREACH ON MARRIAGES (BIMBO IS AN EXAMPLE) SHE IS NOT A CHARLATAN AND SHE DOES NOT PREACH SEXISM AS THIS WOMAN DOES PREACH.

WITH LATE BIMBO I MAY NOT AGREE WITH HER SOLELY BUT SHE DOES A GOOD JOB AT EDUCATING THE TEENAGERS FROM SIN.

MR BATU PLEASE JUST TELL ME I AM WRONG I WILL WITHDRAW ALL I HAVE SAID.

GOD BLESS YOU.

@babyosisi

I know what is worldliness if this woman is not the worldly i don't know what else is. Just as we have the duty to war with false teachers in other faith that tend to encroach our belief we have are told in Jude that we are to contend for the faith.

by their fruit ye shall know them. I am not a pastor nor a Prophet but one thing I know the Scripture.

Selah

Now I can do other things. This is another Charlatan even smoking and cursing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1040105683094856380&q

This one has resurfaced if you have Broadband you will get it if not you have to be patient.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUm-zcmswxE

This One Please Take your time to Listen.
it is very loaded.

http://video.google.com/url?docid=-292748952186052796&esrc=

hello backslider
i have been reading your posts and i was wondering if you are a practicing christain or a backslider as your name implies, dont take it the wrong way, to understand you and where you are coming from i feel the need to ask this question thanks

@Ultrafem,

I am one that is a supporter of the Truth. I had been misled and God Warned me as a little Christian but I was not attentive. It took years for God to begin to lead me back home to the throne of grace.

His love is so great he is the Lover of my soul and all that is ready to acknowledge him.

I will want you to know that There very few real Christians because there many that have developed itchy ears. I respect alot of men of God but I can never trust them. The only one I will ever trust completely is Jesus.

EVERY OTHER MAN AND RELIGION WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL. FOLLOW PEOPLE BUT LOOK AT THEM WITH THE EYE OF THE BIBLE.

STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF THE WORD OF GOD A WATCHMAN THAT NEED NOT BE ASHAMED.

I am telling you again backslider,quit joining ranks with the world against Christians,it will do you no good.

@babyosisi


I have made myself clear on this issue.

There are true Men of God you dont hear. The doctrines they preach is scriptural. I have been burnt by this false preachers.

Cant you see that Jesus identified the false preachers of his days?

T. D. Jakes grew up in a Oneness Pentecostal denomination which denies the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity [The Oneness Pentecostal denomination was declared a heresy by the Assemblies of God when it took organizational form in 1917]. When asked by Christian leaders to clarify if he believes in the Trinity [As defined in the Athanasian Creed] he will not clear up this matter. He refuses to give a clear answer as to what he means by "manifestations" when referring to the Trinity. Here is a portion of the Doctrinal Statement from the Potters House Website:

We believe in one God who is eternal in His existence, Triune in His manifestation, being both Father, Son and Holy Ghost AND that He is Sovereign and Absolute in His authority.

We believe in the Father who is God Himself, Creator of the universe. (Gen 1:1; John 1:1)

We believe that Jesus is the Son of God. (Col 2:9)

He suffered, died, was buried, and rose from the dead for our total salvation (Luke 3:21-22; Philippians 2:5-11).

We believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Him (John 3:36; John 3:31-32; John 14:6).

We believe in the Holy Spirit who is God indwelling, empowering and regenerating the believer. This Holy Spirit is called the Comforter. The Spirit of Truth (John 14:17, 14:26)


So, given his background and his lack of clarification on this matter when asked by Christian leaders, there is justification to label him as a non-Trinitarian until he explains otherwise.

The doctrine of the Trinity is essential to our faith, without it there is no faith. If a person denies the Trinity they are in fact non-Christian by this very belief. This is not a trivial matter, why will he not be clear and define the terms rather than mislead by his of semantics? If he believes that the Trinity as defined in the Athanasian Creed is not scriptural, why not just say so publicly?


T. D. Jakes denies the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity. His view is one God playing three different roles or manifestations. He believes in a god that appears in three different "manifestations." Let me quote him, ", One God, but manifest in, three different ways, Father in creation, Son in redemption, Holy Spirit in regeneration ." Like one man who is a pastor, father, and husband, this view is called modalism and it is heresy.
T. D. Jakes:


"God--There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three Manifestations: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."


Questioner: My first question would be, the Trinity would be defined as one God Who's revealed Himself in three distinct Persons, each co-equal and co-eternal. How important is it for the believing Christian to hold to this belief?


T. D. Jakes:[b] I think it's very, very significant that we first of all study the Trinity apart from salvation, and first of all that we embrace Christ and come to Him and come to know Who He is. Having come to know Who He is, then we begin to deal with the Trinity, which I believe is a very complex issue. The Trinity, the term Trinity, is not a biblical term, to begin with. It's a theological description for something that is so beyond human comprehension that I'm not sure that we can totally hold God to a numerical system. The Lord said, "Behold, O Israel, the Lord thy God is one, and beside Him there is no other." When God got ready to make a man that looked like Him, He didn't make three. He made one man. However, that one man had three parts. He was body, soul and spirit. We have one God, but He is Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration. It's very important that we understand that, but I think that the first thing that every believer needs to do is to approach God by faith, and then having approached Him by faith, then they need to sit up under good teaching so that they can begin to understand who the God is that they have believed upon."[/b]

("Living by the Word" on KKLA, hosted by John Coleman, Aug. 23, 1998)

"CRI Coordinator of Research Sam Wall spoke over the telephone with Pastor Lawrence Robinson, Director of Ministry Affairs at the Potter's House, inquiring about their view of the Trinity. Robinson affirmed that Jakes denies the biblical position of the Trinity, at one point saying that the Roman Catholic Church introduced the concept of three gods. Robinson gave some modalistic illustrations of the Trinity and said that Jakes has always held this position. Twice after that, Wall e-mailed Pastor Robinson to confirm the content of their discussion. Robinson never responded. Wall noted in his e-mail, "Should I not hear from you by e-mail, I will assume that these statements by you are correct."


(The Man, His Ministry, And His Movement: Concerns About The Teachings Of T. D. Jakes)


Warren Smith: "T.D. Jakes is very popular in the evangelical world, and some people say he denies the doctrine of the Trinity."


Norman Geisler: "That's correct. He does. It's an old, old heresy in the Christian church called modalism. I know T.D. Jakes is very popular, and I know people don't like his ministry being called a cult, but it is. It would have been condemned by any orthodox church down through the centuries."


Warren Smith: "What does it say about the evangelical church that these heretical teachings have been allowed to creep in so readily, and even when they are identified as extra-biblical, or cultic, a lot of evangelicals just wink?"


Norman Geisler: "It says the evangelical church in America is about 3,000 mile wide and an inch deep. Doctrinally, we are very shallow. In North Carolina we are in what is called the Bible Belt, but our problem is that we don't have enough Bible under our belts. We have enough religion to makes us susceptible, but not enough doctrine to make us discerning. You can't recognize error until you can recognize the truth. I'm told that when government experts want to train people to recognize counterfeit currency, they study genuine currency. The same is true with doctrine."


("30 Minutes With Norman Geisler" World Newspaper Publishing)


"T.D. Jake's letter completely fails to answer charges that he denies the doctrine of the Trinity. Everything he says could be affirmed by any good leader of the (Oneness, vehemently anti-Trinitarian) United Pentecostal Church, for although he distinguishes the Son from the Father, he does so only by distinguishing the human Son from the divine Father—the classic United Pentecostal belief, as documented in my book "Jesus Only" Churches (Zondervan, 1997) and defended in many UPC publications, such as David Bernard's The Oneness of God. Until he clearly affirms that Father, Son, and Spirit are eternally distinct Persons, not merely that they are "three" and "one"—never defining his terms—he should be considered anti-Trinitarian and by no means welcomed to preach in Christian circles."


(E. Calvin Beisner, Author of God in Three Persons (Tyndale House, 1984) and "Jesus Only" Churches (Zondervan, 1997). Associate Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies Covenant College, Lookout Mountain, Georgia)


"In his rebuttal Jakes never affirms an ontological Trinity but only an economic one. He speaks of different functions the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit perform, but then he clarifies that he does not believe in three Gods, by which it is fairly clear he means Persons. Even the illustration of H20 taking the forms of ice, water, and steam says nothing about three persons, only three manifestations, and is in fact a common illustration used by modalists to explain their view. The key tip-off that Jakes is a dyed-in-the-wool modalist is his unwavering insistence — both before our article was published and even in response to our article — on using the word manifestations rather than persons in regard to the Trinity. Sabellius consistently avoided the use of the term “persons” (Greek: hypostasis) in favor of the term “manifestations.”, Actually, all of the passages Jakes cites that use the term “manifestation” refer to the Incarnation of Christ (the “manifestation” of the Second Person of the Trinity in human form), except 1 Corinthians 12:7, which speaks of the “manifestation” of the Spirit; that is, the charismatic gifts. None of them are concerned with the doctrine of the Trinity per se, and therefore they do not use the word “manifestations” in the way that Jakes and Oneness teachers use it. In light of all this, it is hard to believe Jakes when he says that the language in his ministry’s doctrinal statement does not derive from modalism. If in fact he believes in the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, then he can clear this controversy up and satisfy all Trinitarians by simply affirming in his doctrinal statement and in all of his ministry’s teachings that not only does he believe in the Trinity, but he also believes the Trinity comprises three eternally distinct Persons, who together are the one and only Almighty God. If he cannot bring himself to do that and yet still insists that he holds to the Trinity, then evangelicals should understand that it is he, and not his critics, who uses clever semantics to obfuscate the truth."


(Elliot Miller, "T. D. Jakes Responds to The Journal"


"Don't argue with people about foolishness. Don't argue about the Godhead--the Bible says it's a mystery. If it's a mystery that means it's a supernatural thing and everybody who thinks they understand it--really don't. It's impossible to explain how one God can be three persons and three persons be one God. And you're gonna blow your computer and short circuit your p.c. trying to explain something that you don't even understand. You can't even explain how a brown cow eats green grass and produces white milk. So you know you can't explain God. So just shut up arguing about it and say it's a mystery. All we know is that He's Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Ghost in regeneration and it's all good."


(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, June 3, 2005)


Note: T. D. Jakes says it's foolishness to argue about the Godhead! So when a Jehovah's Witness tells you that Jesus is not God we should just be silent and accept them? He tells us to shut up about it? This is outrageous! After telling us to "Shut up about it" T. D. Jakes goes on to "Explain" the Godhead using a oneness (Modalism) definition.

"And God said, 'Let us. Let usssssss, '" says Jakes, and then digresses: ", One God, but manifest in, three different ways, Father in creation, Son in redemption, Holy Spirit in regeneration."(T. D. Jakes, "Spirit Raiser," Time Magazine, September 17, 2001)

INVESTING IN THE STOCK MARKET OF GOD

"If you need a supernatural thing to occur from God I dare you to give tonight. There's an anointing I believe, there's going to be a supernatural anointing through the word of God. Somebody just give God any kind of praise you got right now! Many people do not understand if you're going to receive something from the Lord you have to be prepared to invest something! So many times people want things out of life without any kind of investment! You can't in the natural, in a stock market you can't get a return on a stock where you have not bought shares. If there's no investment you have no right to wait at the mailbox for a return where you have not made any investment."
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, September 21, 2004)

JUST NAME AND CLAIM IT IS EVERYWHERE EVEN IN GHANA HERE

"My brothers and sisters the power of life and death is in the tongue. You can have whatever you say."
(T. D. Jakes, T. D. Jakes During Intermission of "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)


"You gotta speak to stuff or it won't change. Are you following what I'm saying?"
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)

"When you stop talking back you stop fighting back. Speak to it! You lose your tongue you've lost your fighting power. Speak to it!"
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)

OH IT IS NO MORE THE "ANNOINTING" THAT HEALS

"It's what you say to yourself that gets you healed. If you say that you won't be healed you won't be healed. If you say that you are broke you will stay broke. Oh! But I came to serve notice on the Devil. The Bible says, 'The power of life and death is in the tongue. Slap somebody and say, 'You better speak to yourself.'"
(T. D. Jakes, "Seize the Moment," Woman Thou Art Loosed, 2000 Atlanta)


"Did you know that the Bible says, 'You shall have whatever you say.' Now, don't you say that if you don't want no increase. If all you want is what you had don't say that anymore. But, if you want something beyond what you have ever seen, shout increase! The power of life and death is in your tongue. When you open your mouth you release power all over the room! Shout increase!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, September 14, 2004)

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO OSHODI MARKET JUST LOOK THIS GUY IS PRACTICING MARKETING

"I want the privilege of praying over your seed. I want to pray over your seed and it would be ridiculous for me to pray that God to give it back to you. Because if all He was going to do was give it back to you, you ought to keep it and then you would just have it. That's ridiculous! You got a $100 or a $1,000 and you're gonna give a $1,000 and I tell you God is going to give $1,000 back. Well, you just broke even! You could have kept that $1,000 and not gone through the trouble! Come on church folk! But God is going to give you some more on top of that. And as you sow it [a person shouts, 'Increase!'] I dare you to say it again, [The audience shouts, 'Increase!']. Oh My God! Woo, we're about to get ours in here. I don't know what you're getting out there. Well, we're about, somebody shout, 'Increase!'"
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, July 30, 2004)


"I want to challenge you to sow and come into agreement with me. I believe you don't have to go for it, you can sow for it! And God will bring it to pass in your life. I want you to write me, put in your prayer request and sow a special seed. Believe God for supernatural resurrection harvest in your life!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Heirs of The Promise I," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 21, 2005)


"I am excited! I have been claiming Genesis 26:12. It is powerful! It is life changing! Talks about Isaac sowing a seed and receiving a 100 fold return in that same year. I believe that as you sow God is going to give you a supernatural harvest in your life! I believe it will be at least a 100 fold! Some of you are going to break into that next dimension of 1,000 times more that I've been teaching around the country. I want you to partner with me so that you can get into this flow, Now write me and let me agree with you in prayer over your seed. As we harvest in this same year 100 fold, a 1,000 times more than expected!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Confronting Your Promises I," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 20, 2005)


"When you sow seeds into this kind of anointing it releases the power of God that you can harvest. And I want you to get this scripture and read it and believe God with me Genesis 26:12. As we sow, I believe that we're going to experience a resurrection, Genesis 26:12, it says, 'Then Isaac sowed in that land and received in that same year a 100 fold and the Lord blessed him.' This year is your year to receive. You need to sow it and receive it in this year. This is your year of destiny."
(T. D. Jakes, "Heirs of The Promise II," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 22, 2005)


"Jakes told those gathered that they have to go and claim the inheritance that God has promised them and know that it's theirs. And then he addressed critics who fault him for profiting from "selling religion." 'You can't get upset with me, because I choose to claim what God has promised me,' he said. 'Don't get upset with me! Don't hate the player; hate the game,' a revved up Jakes yelled over cheers."
(T. D. Jakes, "T.D. Jakes enthralls with energetic oratory," Denver Post.com"

"Don't deny me my joy you player hater you, How dare you sit there and roll your eyes and pass notes when you see me get my breakthrough! you wasn't there when I was in hell's kitchen coming out with some smoke in my coat."
(T. D. Jakes, "Spellbreaker," Tape from his ministry)

"I was staying in a little raggity house down in Dunbar West Virginia and the lights were half way on and half way off most of the time. And the roof was leaking and everything and one night I got up and started walking around in my house and I spoke to the house. And I said, 'House, I don't believe you!' I said, 'You look like I'm down and you look like I'm broke and you look like I'll never be anything. And you look like I'll never get up and you look like I'm bound to the ghetto. But, I just want you to know house, I don't believe you! You're lying to me! You're not who I am and you're not where I'm going and I don't believe You!' I believe that the word that is in me is stronger than the circumstances that are against me. Ah, you all aren't hearing what I'm talking about. You got to start talking to situations or they will take over your life."
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)


"Oh! I wish you would sit there and look funny! I wish you would act like you always choose the right door! I wish you would get quiet. I dare you to get quiet on me! I'll start prophesying and tell all your business! You got 12 doors in front of you now! You better say something before I go off! I will go off! I will go off!, I wish you would jump on me! I'll fight everything in here!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Don't Get lost In The House," From the series "Home Remedies" TV1 Direct T.V. Channel 241. May 1, 2005)


THEY EVEN ADVERTISE THE TAPES ON THE TAPES

"My God! I'm preaching, I think I'll get my own tape this morning."
(T. D. Jakes, "The Invisible King," TBN June 27, 2004)


MORE SELF PRAISE

"Ya'll don't hear what I'm preaching. I'm preaching so good I'm about to 'Amen' myself! Oh!, Oh God! I'm preaching good! Hallelujah!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Give it up, Have it All II," TBN, April 15, 2005)

"Oh! That's good! I may have to get this tape myself!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Mega Fest 2005," The Church Channel, August 18, 2005)


"This tape is so good I'm going to buy this one myself!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Reality Check," From the series "Fight For The Family." TBN August 19, 2005)


"Oh dear! I'm going to buy this tape myself. Give me two tapes! Hold two tapes in the back."
(T. D. Jakes, "Dealing With The Unexpected," TBN, November 28, 2004)


Note: Pride is one sign of many that a false teacher possesses (1 Timothy 6:4; Jude 8-19; 2 Peter 2:10-18).


"You're entitled to have wellness in your body. Stop begging for what you're entitled to."
(T. D. Jakes, "God Never Meant For You To Lose," TBN, July 29, 2004)


"We believe that it is God’s will to heal and deliver His people today as He did in the days of the first Apostles. It is by the stripes of Jesus that we are healed, delivered and made whole. We have authority over sickness, disease, demons, curses, and every circumstance in life."
(T. D. Jakes Doctrinal Statement, website.)

Note: He wears glasses yet believes that we shouldn't be sick. Why are his eyes sick?

“The myth of the poor Jesus needs to be destroyed, because it’s holding people back.”
(Kaylois Henry, “Bishop Jakes Is Ready. Are You?,” The Dallas Observer magazine, June 20-26, 1996, pg. 31. PFO Quarterly Journal Article)



TD JAKES LIFE STYLE

“Jakes, who drives a Mercedes, has moved with his wife and their five children to a luxurious seven-bedroom home with swimming pool in the White Rock Lake area of Dallas. He said the home cost more than $1 million. ‘I do think we need some Christians who are in first class as well as coach,’ Jakes said.”
(The Fort Worth Star Telegram reports. PFO Quarterly Journal Article



"Jakes lives with wife Serita and their five children in a Dallas mansion, complete with an indoor swimming pool and bowling alley, And while some accuse Jakes of being driven by the dollar and not the divine - his transportation stable consists of a Mercedes-Benz, a Bentley, a BMW, a Lexus and a jet, Indeed, during MegaFest's kickoff, Jakes mentioned his sponsors more than he mentioned God. During the worship service, dozens of Potter's House ushers sprinted throughout the Georgia Dome, collecting purple duffel bags full of money and checks made out to T.D. Jakes Enterprises, The pastor says his income comes from his media enterprises, not from church tithes. And he dismisses such questions as having racist overtones."
("Building an empire to empower," T.D. Jakes may lead a Dallas mega-church, but that's not all he does. By Annette John-Hall, Inquirer Staff Writer, Philadelphia Inquirer posted August 22, 2005)

TRY TO DIFFERENTIATE 50CENT AND TD JAKES

"The Jakeses and their five children live in a 9,689-square-foot mansion on White Rock Lake, appraised at more than $3.3 million. He loves to shop and wears exquisitely tailored suits and expensive shoes. He owns a jet. "Anybody who has sold 8 million books shouldn't have to justify why they live in a nice house," Bishop Jakes said."
(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film, but some fault posh lifestyle"


Note: That may be true for an unbeliever, but what about for a man of the cloth living in a multi-million dollar house? Dr. J. Vernon McGee has well said, "Whenever you find a minister who is rich, watch out. Folk are not supposed to get rich in the ministry," Commentary on 2 Corinthians 6:8-10, page 117.


I drive a: "Lexus and Bentley"

(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film, but some fault posh lifestyle"

Note: On the Bentley Motors website here is a sample of prices for used Bentleys (Model year then price): 1) 2003--$185,000 2) 2005--$175,000 3) 2000--$159,000 4) 2002-- $279,000 5) 2004--$239,000.

He will still pay insurance oh oh Look Below what gave all the money.

“I think that Jesus is the product,” says author and televangelist T.D. Jakes, who is currently bishop at The Potters House, a primarily African-American Pentecostal church in Dallas. “When the product is excellent, it doesn't require a big sales pitch.”
(MSNBC News, "Do God and money mix?" March 31, 2005)

Note: Jesus is a product? Jesus is Lord of lords and Kings of kings--the creator of all things. Jesus is not a 'product' nor should He be compared to one.



I FEAR NONE OF THESE MEN I ONLY FEAR HIM.

CHRISTIANS READ YOUR BIBLE AND GET THE REVELATION FROM GOD. DONT LISTEN TO THE FALSE TEACHERS THAT TEACH DOCTRINE OF DEMON. IF I PREACHED ANYWHERE ANOTHER GOSPEL I WILL WITHDRAW. I AM NOT GREATER THAN MY OFFICE NOR THE GOD THAT GAVE ME THE OFFICE.


Selah

Backslider:

So, given his background and his lack of clarification on this matter when asked by Christian leaders, there is justification to label him as a non-Trinitarian until he explains otherwise.

The doctrine of the Trinity is essential to our faith, without it there is no faith. If a person denies the Trinity they are in fact non-Christian by this very belief.

This is one thing that amazes me. I'm not an apologist for T. D. Jakes ministries; but then I wonder how it is that he is quickly labelled as one who DENIES the Trinity simply because of his lack of clarification. The ministry website does not deny a belief in the Trinity -

Backslider:

We believe in one God who is eternal in His existence, Triune in His manifestation, being both Father, Son and Holy Ghost AND that He is Sovereign and Absolute in His authority.

If he refused/refuses to clarify his use of the term 'manifestation', does that equate to his denying the Trinity? Even among those who hold the Athanasian creed, there are many discordant voices who are unable to clarify some of the terms they use in expounding on the doctrine of the Trinity - by the same rule, are they not heretics who deny the Trinity for their lack of clarity?

People who are on a smear campaign will have plenty of issues against others where they themselves have issues to settle in their domain.

@Stimulus

TD Jake is very far Away and I dont know what Anyone will gain from a Campaign "Smear". However He made him self clear that The Manifestations he talked about is that One being playing three Roles.

The bible is clear on this, Jesus was Equating himself to God, When he said "I and the father are one"


HE CALLES CREFLO DOLLAR ONE OF "GODS FINEST"

I will do a piece on Creflo soon.

Selah

@ Stimulus

The reason why we can not just play dumb to a pastor's stand on Trinity is that this is the basis of the Christian Faith. It will mean that God was Play Acting.

The Very Essence Of God is trinity. The God that the Jews worship is a triune God no mincing word with this issue.

But is such a concept Jewish? Is it not some Gentile or pagan concept that has somehow crept into our Holy Scriptures as some extreme liberalists would like to tell us? No, this was and still is a Jewish conception of God creating and dealing with His creation and His people Israel in a triune way.


This quotation bears it out: Exodus 19 starts with the words, "In the third month."

This is explained by the words of

Proverbs 22:20, "Have I not written to thee excellent(Hebrew, threefold) things in counsels and knowledge." On this Rabbi Joshua bar Nehemiah said that this is the Torah whose letters are threefold, alf, bet, g(i)ml, and everything is a Trinity:

The Torah is trinitarian, for it is composed of the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings.

The Mishna (talmudical learning) is a trinity composed of talmud (learning) halakhot(daily Jewish laws) and haggadot (historical items).

The mediator consisted of a trinity of Miriam, Moses, & Aaron.

Prayers are a[b] trinity of morning, afternoon, and evening prayers[/b].

Israel is a trinity [/b]consisting of [b]priests, Levites and Israelites.

The name Moses in Hebrew consists of three letters. He is of the tribe of Levi, which again is in the Hebrew three letters. from the seed of the Patriarchs who are a trinity of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob;

in the third month which is Sivan, after Nisan & Iyar on mount[b] Sin [/b]whose letters are three as it is written. "And they rested in the wilderness of Sin.".(Midrash Tanhuma on Exodus 19)

If, according to rabbis', God has made everything and arranged everything in a trinitarian way. then it must also be Jewish and biblical to know that God, Himself is a Trinity. This He is and has revealed Himself as the Savior, Messiah, and Son of God in the person of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah. He then sent down the Holy Spirit, the Ruakh Hakodesh, on the Disciples in the third month, of the Feast of Shavuoth, the feast of perfection, celebrated after counting seven times seven.


But. can three be one? Does not common sense rebel against such a statement? Must we not state categorically that God is either One or Three? Not so. As a matter of fact everything you come in contact with is not a mathematical concept of one, but usually an item composed of a trinity. The ancient Greek philosopher reasoned out the theory of atoms by simply watching a black cow, eating green grass, and then giving white milk. All things are composed of millions and billions of atoms; but the atom itself is a trinity of a proton. electron and nucleus. Perhaps we could best express it in the words of Dr. Henry Heydt:

In Romans 1:20 Paul uses the creation of the kosmos as demonstrating this Godhead (theiotes]. The universe , is an absolute triunity of space, time, and matter. Each of these in turn is an absolute triunity. Space consists of length, breadth, and depth or height:

Even time is future, present, and past;

Matter is energy, motion, and phenomena.

Here we have not merely an illustration of three in one --- as in the case of light, heat, and ultra-violet rays of the sunbeam, or the manifestation of H2O as liquid, ice, and steam --- but an absolute trinity composed of three absolute triunities.


It Just saying that you are a Scientist you Dont Believe in matter!!!!

@Backslider,

Backslider:

TD Jake is very far Away and I don't know what Anyone will gain from a Campaign "Smear". However He made him self clear that The Manifestations he talked about is that One being playing three Roles.
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HE CALLES CREFLO DOLLAR ONE OF "GODS FINEST"

I'm sorry to burst your bubble. You, me and several others may not agree with T. D. Jakes on many issues; but, at least, let's be honest enough to acknowledge what he states without reading statements into his postulations.

Jake's statement from his website which you quoted did NOT say that God is "ONE being." Rather, the statement was that God is "TRIUNE", and then mentions being both Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

We know some of these televangelists are grifters; but just because someone's theology about the Trinity does not square with ours does not necessarily disqualify them as Christians.

Backslider:

The reason why we can not just play dumb to a pastor's stand on Trinity is that this is the basis of the Christian Faith. It will mean that God was Play Acting.

That's not at all the argument. You don't use a smear campaign to clobber anyone and denounce them as not being "Christian".

Backslider:

The Very Essence Of God is trinity. The God that the Jews worship is a triune God no mincing word with this issue.

I haven't argued against that, no?

Backslider:

Proverbs 22:20, "Have I not written to thee excellent(Hebrew, threefold) things in counsels and knowledge." On this Rabbi Joshua bar Nehemiah said that this is the Torah whose letters are threefold, alf, bet, g(i)ml, and everything is a Trinity

Prov. 22:20 does not establish the doctrine of the Trinity; neither did Rabbi Joshua bar Nehemiah see God as a Trinity. What is even more appalling is the statement that the mediator consisted of a "trinity" - for that is not what is taught about Miraim, Moses, and Aaron:

Backslider:

The mediator consisted of a trinity of Miriam, Moses, & Aaron.

This is the kind of blind argument that ruins my appetite for a good discourse. The mediator was NOT a trinity; for it was only Moses who stood as mediator on behalf of Israel -

Deut. 5:5 - "(I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount saying. . ."

Psa. 106:23 - "Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them."

Gal. 3:19 - "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator" (a singular mediator - Moses).

Backslider:

Prayers are a[b] trinity of morning, afternoon, and evening prayers[/b].

There are more than three distinct types of prayer - "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men" - 1 Tim. 2:1.

Backslider:

Israel is a trinity [/b]consisting of [b]priests, Levites and Israelites.

As if the priests and Levites are different from "Israelites". What happened to the prophets?

Backslider:

All things are composed of millions and billions of atoms; but the atom itself is a trinity of a proton. electron and nucleus.
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It Just saying that you are a Scientist you Dont Believe in matter!!!!

Matter exists in [url=http://jersey.uoregon.edu/~mstrick/AskGeoMan/geoQuerry6.html]four different states or phases[/url] - solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.

@ Stimulus

It looks as if you Just did not get me well or you failed woefully to read what I said in my post.

TD JAKES IS A MAN THAT BELIEVES NOT IN THE TRINITY AS THE BIBLE PUTS ITS.

IF I SAY WATER CAN EXIST IN THREE FORMS SOLID LIQUID GAS. I MEAN THAT THE SAME WATER IS PLAYING THE SAME ROLE HERE. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE USES THIS ANALOGY TO SUPPORT THE ISSUE OF MANIFESTATIONS.

THIS IS VERY VERY FALSE AND HAS NO BASES IN SCRIPTURE.

IT LOOKS AS IF YOUR PHYSICS OR CHEMISTRY IS NOT CORRECT. MATTER CAN ONLY EXIST IN 3 FORMS CHECK OUT THE EXAMPLE OF WATER ABOVE.

If you read your Old testament well you see that The party was what I mentioned. When Moses moved to the mountain who did he leave the Children to. I was using The Mode of worship of the OLD TESTAMENT TO HIT HOME THE POINT.

THE PRAYER (YOU CAN PRAY A HUNDRED TIMES NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE JESUS)
THE LEADERSHIP (MEDIATOR) YES MOSE WAS THE SOLE MEDIATOR BUT HE HAD ASSISTANCE. JUST AS JESUS IS THE MEDIATOR. PERIOD


I think i have made myself clear.

@Backslider,

Don't sweat it. You actually made no point at all, and the references I pointed out to you stand as posted. Check them out, and you may come away a bit more enlightened. Cheers.