oolongtea: 2/5 [s]that's also the reason no one here feels the girl is too young cos we've seen women of almost every age raise children, nigerian women are not allowed to be lazy or weak cos someone has to get sh!t done. then there's the brigade of ppl who secretly wish to punish women who dont want to be pregnant. they dont mind the cold truth that the person who will truly suffer is the child who would have honestly preferred to not exist than to live an awful life they've forced them into just to spite the mother. we read stories of children here everyday, thrown inside dustbin or sold or abandoned in buildings. they'll just say chai chai, what do u think happens to those children??! this world will raise them HARD with no conscience, convinced that life is not to come and shine teeth, u do anyhow u see anyhow. in 30 yrs time, u all will be shocked by the type of deranged creatures that have been raised in this nigeria roaming your streets. then of course there's your angel, your little princess raised like an egg and your son you will die on the cross for.. u will show them all the love u have and one day it's time for them to go into the real world to mingle with the beasts of no nation that u campaigned to bring here while knowing u cant do anything to give them a good life sentencing them to hardship and they've become full-blown sociopaths.
You'd think these fools who refuse to be practical about what happens to these unloved children will give these unwanted kids heaven and earth but they wont even spit on the poor child if he/she was on fire. all these dont abort pls gang who encourage unwanted children, u are not dangote, shey u see these lil babies that u forced their mothers to keep that grew up on the streets, there are millions of these children all over nigeria, slowly becoming monsters and soon they'll be in charge. then when u get the phone call that your angel son in uni that u sent N15k was just brutally murdered near his lodge by petty thieves for a mere 15k and his handset, u'll start screaming. when they break into your home to gangrape all your daughters till they require 17 stitches and a hysterectomy and spill a few of your sons' brain matter on the wall while u watch, u'll start crying and biting your lip till u draw blood asking god where are u.
no amount of your pain will take back what they've done to u, worst part is they cant even see the gravity of what they've done cos as far as they know, it's how life should be. when they are the boss and they have u begging on your knees, who will u call to help u? do we even have 911 in nigeria? do u have money to live in a gated community in banana island and have your own security team? no, what will happen will happen and we'll read about it on lindaikeji and as usual say chai chai and linda will cash out on your misery in ad revenue. still.. your whole world.. crushed! what legal system will give u justice? none, you'll have to learn just like these kids have learned to hurt in vain, stop asking for justice and find a way to live with it. i dont pity most nigerians anymore, they dont think and they dont learn, history will keep repeating itself with most of u. most of u dont even have the financial capacity to live above the mess that is coming. your president will go to london for treatment, u'll die on a queue in a nigerian hospital, when your kids are getting hell on nigerian campus, the kids of your leaders are in the US studying with the creme de la creme totally oblivious to your children's damage. yet they let you live out your miserable lives in a hellhole like animals, the UK and US they cant seem to get enough of, abortion is legal there, it's legal in all EU countries and it's legal in every developed nation. cos they know what happens if u let ppl be raised like animals, they spend unbelievable amounts to see to it that those who are born but have no homes are given some form of stability and love and have security to keep citizens safe.
i raised kids in the 90s and any honest person who was either raised then or raised kids too at that time will admit that if u raise a child exactly like we raised them back then, u will raise a total liability cos the world is crazy and parenting methods must be adjusted. there are many stories u will never hear of what many families have gone through, u will be shocked at the current rate of child sexual abuse and even more shocked when u find out how severely underestimated those figure are for little boys (7 in every 10 nigerian girl)(5 in every 10 nigerian boy[3 in every 5 abused by men]) and i know young ppl hate hearing this but one day it will be your turn to see what others have seen, u will see the slay queens give birth and have mummy body, u will see u and your male friends lose all your hair and have potbellies, u will go through the old ppl disease too, highBP, diabetes, rheumatism, eye problems. every thing in life will happen with u just like it's happened to others. it's the cycle of life.
the problem is the ugly part of life that about 90% of ppl go though but never talk about openly about, think of it like how there are many things you've experienced that your parents have no clue about even though they were there the whole time, it doesnt have to be abuse, just intense experiences. u reading this, u know many many men who have been sexually abused, same with girls, some ppl u know will bury their children, some will die young, some ppl will get into life altering accidents. even if this makes sense to one single person, save yourself!! if there is anything u can do to improve your quality of life, do it. the same way u bought gen cos they wont give u light, decide that anything that will make life good for u, u will work hard to get it and secure your own comfort.
nigerians dont love themselves, stop thinking like them. everyday u hear news of a man who raped a child and they beat him and took him to police station for bail of 4,500 but a 17 yr old boy stole a laptop and they killed him. you'll wonder if these ppl even filter their thoughts. if jungle justice must prevail why not serve justice? it's cos these men are weak, when they see a man who did something really scary, their weakness causes them to withdraw but they see a not-so-scary victim and they use mob advantage. u would think men who have no laws to protect them will kill the psychopath/molester and give the young thief a dirty slap or 2 and let him run home crying. same way they harbor evil even when it lives in their street is how they encourage the birth of children doomed from day 1 even when the same children will grow up to terrorize them. it's pure self-hatred. zero personal interest protected. all round foolishness[/s].
In this post the op is saying we should be practical when it comes to unwanted children. Many of these unwanted children are raised under barbaric conditions and become hardened and barbaric as well and end up preying on , killing and harming the well brought up kids. So op is indirectly advocating that it is better to abort unwanted pregnancy than birth innocent kids you cant cater for who will eventually turn into social misfits and hardened criminals who will become a nuisance to society as if society is not depraved enough by being lenient with a rapist but lynching a laptop thief.
We have so many illiterates parading themselves as learned... That's the problem.. It's all about being insightful to understand this piece
Sad truth.
You're right. Most people prefer to be unreceptive and indignant rather than be insightful. They are allergic to all forms of criticism. So, they don't give themselves the opportunity to escape their ignorance.
Awe tera mose, ma se pe padi e lo le. What this means is, work hard but don't call your padi a lazy man. Thank God for your situation but don't ever think you are better. Every other person is fighting a battle you know nothing about. I saw saw post o twitter the other day where a woman talked about her husband commiting suicide in the states. I ll post t link. Stop being judgemental, advice people right, you don't have have judge from a far. https://twitter.com/dvorakoelling/status/1019570537901719554
oolongtea: 3/5 [s]I read the p-square thread and even commented cos he made a very intelligent statement and it's few nigerian men that think that smart, most men will drag fire into his own house just to prove a point to the world, the world leaves and he burns in the fire that he started, and this okoye dude decided to let the fire keep burning on the streets and let it stay far from his air-conditioned home, marked his territory and secured respect for his wife and children but most nigerians are truly not used to seeing men actually step up for their woman, actually be a man and protect her, so to them he's letting the very evil lola with 3 red horns control him cos when they see a man being a man, they think he's being a woman cos all their female relatives work and look like men after years & years of having to work like men. so they recognize masculine energy but they've only seen women exude it cos they had no choice, so when they sense masculine energy, it's a female thing to them.
most ppl here come from families with a lot of malice but their fathers never took the initiative to protect them all from the adult drama and abuse. every christmas he'll put them in a vehicle and drive them there with a long list of ppl they must not talk to when they get there and how many hail marys must be recited in their mind if this uncle/aunty hugs them. what man sees a warzone and takes his own to the frontline and tell it to try not to die when he could have protected them from all that by not taking them there in the first place? most nigerian men cant stand their ground to protect those who need them to speak up for them and sever certain ties to keep the home they're the head of happy and full of laugh. many women have damned themselves by association to weak men who are easily influenced by pressure and dont have a mind of their own. they leave women stranded and embarrassed always.
a woman will see it coming, she will warn, a smart man will wash eye with water and observe closely and they make a decision to escape early. a woman will see it coming and tell a weak man and he will disguise his cowardice and inability to do anything about the situation as "unnecessary female wahala" it was in my late 30s that i realized, maybe it is a spiritual thing but women have a lot of foresight, they see it first and they always try to warn, the more those instincts are silenced, the more the ability to discern evades her, weak men literally drain women of their gifts and weaken their spiritual defences. if men warn women about things with the same intensity and seriousness women warn us about things, very few women will not drop everything and pay close attention.
ask women here.. out of all the men they have dated, how many of their boyfriend's "my guy who is like a brother to me" have ever made a move on them(women know what i mean, when your man's close friend wants u but he cant show full signal cos u might not give a positive reply and tell on him, there's this signal he gives, it's vague, u pick up on it cos you're a lady and u know these things and if u're ready to play ball, u give back a signal and he can make his move, if u show him signs that it's not happening, he retreats, and technically u cant accuse him of anything cos he didnt say anything..) this happens to every nigerian girl in almost every relationship and i mean it... then she starts to complain when the friend comes around, says she's not comfortable with his constant presence, the man will ask why and she cant say what she knows is happening cos he'll say she's being ridiculous, so she keeps insisting she just hates his vibes and dreamt of him chasing them with cutlass and blah blah then the man will give his all-knowing male smile and say womennnnn and laugh it off. u should see how bitterly these women speak up about this, yet most men lack the emotional depth to try and cut the bs, even if the friend is that good, just limit his contact with your woman and stop bringing him to your personal space if it bothers your woman that much. hell no! nothing changes, her fears? dismissed! some men even go as far and foolish to make it known to the friend that she complained about them.
this same friend will talk about u disrespectfully to your woman behind your back and she'll have to defend u jokingly cos she knows what he's doing but doesnt want to show she's understood and would rather pretend she thinks it's all innocent coming from the friend. then when she starts to withdraw from the friend, he panics cos he feels she'll spill the beans soon, he starts to plan to get u to tear down your home so he can go scot-free with his attempted betrayal and in most case, they win. u dont know it but it's the seed he planted that started the disdain, the small quarrels and intolerance that sank your relationship. and dont get me started on the men that are eternal hosts, their home is a hotel to family and friends passing by town and their parlour is football view center and his wife has to be the waitress in all this, 1st time, it'll be cute and she's madam madam and everyone is shining teeth, 10th time, they're no more talking to your wife with respect, they now have things they've seen u do, seen her do, how u live is now chat topic for your friends at the beer parlou,r then when u come, they change topic. stop exposing yourselves and your women to unnecessary mockery. cover your wife's nyash!! ppl are not laughing at her, they are laughing at u.
if this thread ever takes off and a female has to answer, answer this: what i explained here about males not drawing boundaries with friends when it comes to u. what is the percentage of prevalence in your case(if u've had 4 relationships and it happened in all, it's 100%. if it happened in 3, it's 75%, if it happened in 2, it's 50% etc)... men will really take something good, dangle it before others and think they're exempt to the natural law of green envy and covetousness. meanwhile let a man show he's uncomfortable with a girl's friend and that friendship starts to die from that moment cos nigerian women do what women do but most nigerian men dont do what men do. most dont protect their women and kids as long as what's harming them doesnt harm them too[/s].
In this post...
Wheww In this post op is saying all men are scum. They make moves on thier male friends girlfriends and when the girl tries to hint the man what's happening (cos they can't tell the man directly cos its a mans world) and the man doesn't get the hint, seeds of discord are planted in the relationship and the stûpid man loses out on a good woman. Men should learnt to stand up to thier evil families and protect their wives and children just like p-square did.
Hopefully the next generation will be better if we as parents raise our children with the right values. Since we have realised some inadequacies of our parents in raising us, we had better not make the same mistake in raising our children.
oolongtea: 4/5 [s]You would think that in a hard country like nigeria a man will make his home his safe place where he can relax after the crazy day on the hard streets. but nahhh he needs his madam bitter, angry, frustrated when he gets home, then he can complain some more. if u tell ppl how sweet life can be if they just decide, this country is hard and they want to be happy and find a woman who to love and actually treat her well so she stays sweet and the feminine energy in your house will be calm, you'll see that this is actually so easy but nigerian men are so lazy. even if he finds the grace to pull through with this, if it works. he changes, starts to look more alive, then his 'friends' notice. stupid men dont get to keep the things they want, the way they want it, ppl stronger than him will muscle it away from him. a 1 room apartment with a small gen and a man and woman who have vowed to not be miserable like the average nigerian couple will be full of love, they might not have money to go to london trips but they'll live a truly fulfilled life. it's not that the nigerian man does not want this, he does, he's just very lazy and wont do any emotional labour that involves anyone even if it will benefit hikm in the end, he just cant, it's too hard.
i think a man truly becomes a man the day he realizes that the innate selfishness men are given is not for him to self-destruct with it but to be selfish with his own woman and children he fathered. many of u men dont love yourselves that is why u need women to love u so u can feel loved, yet u cant offer women anything besides midnight farts. i have yet to have a friend that i have told some things that i have told my woman and i know every man is like that, we dont even feel bold enough to show certain sides of us to our so-called friends but we let women truly see us and they accept what we're too embarrassed to show and yet you prize friends over the woman who is your source of emotional strength. the reason a lot of men are so die-hard for their bros is cos they have daddy issues and they're too weak to make their own decisions so they idolize the male figures in their life, like a little boy looking for a daddy's approval, he holds on to their every word.
and to women because of course i saw some of u on those threads talking rubbish, men will not treat u better even if u reduce yourself to nothing. having no standards with a man does not make u quality, it makes you a non-entity, u deserve nothing and will probably end up with that. oya hard facts for the ladies, the reason men cheat on u is not cos they cant help it but cos there are no consequences, they knew what they were doing and they know u'll cry and get over it and some even want u to know so they can hit at your self-confidence, no, he was not carried away, some even thought about u the whole time they did it and just got off on the thought of u being their fool. if you're with a man for money or non-emotional or purely sexual reasons then ignore this... but if a man you're committed to ever cheats on u, walk away! he will do it again, he has no respect for u and will fail u in other ways eventually. many women stick around cos to find man is hard, dont know who told them that but ok. some women feel it'll be crazy to leave him, then he'll find someone else and be so much happier with her and take pics and post on the insta u youths love so much. get this, he's happy with her just like he was happy with u, only difference is the unhappiness u chose to walk away from, she didnt get so lucky. he's not the prize. he will be just as goatishly happy with any woman who does not love herself and is ok with constant disrespect and humiliation.
lemme throw u girls a bone, there is no sex with the greatest power trip on earth than a scorned woman getting the sh!t banged out of her balls deep by another man. none! even the genders reversed(scorned man another woman does not provide that effect, infact it provides the opposite, the man feels like crap the whole time and too many mental images cos men have to concentrate during sex but women have to zone out) i know u might not believe this, but if a man ever cheats on u, go out there and get handled by another man, the hormones and dirty serenity that'll go through your head while it happens and the release that follows is like a reset button, like a knot fell back in place. suddenly, u feel nothing about his cheating, yet u feel no guilt, u just feel like A BOSS! and you're over it. this works like a charm. there is no sex dynamic that out-does this. pissed off betrayed hórny woman + single man who loves to fvck other men's wife shege is a deadly combination. this works 100%. there's a reason men nearly faint at the thought of being cheated on cos they know what it means for another man to have what they're having. after u enjoy yourself, stagger home and make dinner and tell him nothing, go back to your life like nothing happened, just let the steamy encounter do for u what it 100% does and enjoy your marriage with your new-found peace of mind. that's the hack in the whole thing, keep it to yourself and live your life knowing you enjoyed this memory of immense significance that u have all to yourself. most of u women suffer cos u wont hold men to standard and when they let u down, u stay where he kept u. stop being at the mercy of powerless men. either leave him right away or stay with him the right way. i just gave u the expo[/s].
In this post op is saying that men are lazy both physically and emotionally . They can't love themselves and so force women to love them. Op is also saying as a woman if a man cheats on you, you should.go to another lazy man and let him.fück your brains out. That it feels really good. In this same post op tries to convince us that he is also a male. How he's a male and knows a scorned woman that is fuxked and feels so good I don't know.
In as much as I don't agree with everything you wrote this topic is superb and enlightening OP weldone and don't mind those people saying you are female that is the tactics some Nl men are good at using when their fellow man thinks outside the box.
Thank you for helping those that can not read o, you are doing a good job. But he never said all men are scum.
Oh but he did. He didn't have to spell it out. In all his/her posts you can see the underlying hatred for "all men" seeping out of every corner. No example of any good man (except maybe p-square) in this long dissertation he/she wrote.
Bro oolongtea as much as you make a lot of great point, i think you miss the point here...
A) most men (and women) who have never had a child DONT know what it takes to PROPERLY raise/care/educate a child properly. should they be blamed for believing they can do a good job at one of the hardest duties a man could face? thats how most (if not all) soon to be 1st time fathers/mothers feel.
B) if Nigerian men dont know what it takes to be a man, then dont blame THEM, blame Nigerian Society as a whole (aka men AND women), BLAME religion who beat through the skull of men AND women that a a man is the head'of the family, regardless of what he brings to the table.... why are you focussing on just men when it is obvious the issue here is with men AND women.
C) isnt the reason why he ask for ways to convince the babe to keep the baby OBVIOUS? he is passionate about wanting to keep the baby, and as much as he doesnt think this through, he made his mind up that he want this baby to be born. thats dedication, and as much as he may not be the future leader of Nigeria, he has a strong mind, regardless of how he goes about solving this issue.
D) the minute you think that having a woman by your side is the requirement for a ḿan to successfully raise a child, then its the minute you have lost the plot. many men can do it on their own because sadly, many women (and also men) aint shiit. just look at the rate at how many newborn infants are thrown in dustbin to understand that some women (like men) are useless. JUST AS a new daddy is blind to fatherhood, is the exact same way that a woman is blind to motherhood, they are BOTH going in blindly, hoping to make it work, duh! saying that only women made it work in the past while men were absent, is not only a joke, it is ARRANT NONSENSE!!!!!
E) yes many children have been abused and brutalised, but thinking that this is solely the fault of men is ABSURD. the reason we have so many children lacking is because BOTH Parents were lacking, and i can tell you FOR A FACT, that if only ONE parent had it going on in their brain, then a child could NEVER be brutalised/abused/damaged. stop pointing fingers at father and instead point fingers at the RIGHT culprit here, BOTH Parents.... and if a child is being brutalised/abused/damaged by father while mothers stays there and does ABSOLUTELY nothing then she is just as useless as the father, duh!
F) are you saying that a 22yr old woman is too young to have a child?! i dont get it, to WHOSE standard exactly?! his highness Oolongtea, abi?! there is absolutely NOTHING wrong for anyone above 18yrs old to have a child, so long as they understand what it implies..... if someone thinks they are physically/emotionally and financially ready to properly raise a child for the next 18yrs, then why would you doubt them? or better yet, how old is good enough for you to have a child? and what that person needs exactly to attain such level?
G) most of your beef here seems to be about NIGERIAN SOCIETY, which is understandable...but i cant understand for the life of me what has the other thread (of the dude wanting to keep the child) got to do with it? i understand that you got upset by it, but i am sure you must have had WORST ISSUES ON NL to bring all your above rant, instead of two adults undecided about having a baby, didnt you?!
.... and my above points comes from ONLY reading up til 2/5 of your rant....woah! i am sorry to say that the way you go about looking at these issues is what is wrong in today"s society. instead of giving these people a sound advice as to how they can go about doing what is right (aka regardless if they would be having the baby or not) you are here ranting about stuff that is irrelevant to the mind of two very young (and possibly confused) young adults. stick to the issue bro!
Slate Peter all you want, but Peter na man, he understands thag his priorities are his wife and kids, extended family is secondary and should be given secondary treatment. Most Nigerian men think it is normal for their mothers or siblings to come to their homes and overrun their wives. It is a disgusting tradition turning a supposed partner in a relationship to the role of a slave, an inconsequential person.
Kudos to you for this thread, so much wisdom in it, but most Nigerian men do not have the thinking capacity to process this level of wisdom. You deserve accolades
I tell you,men like Tonyebarcanista and EzendiEgo1,need to read that number 3.
First of all, I can swear that this emotional bullcrap is from a frustrated woman fronting as a man. No guy in his right senses has time for this bullshit! Secondly, All the nonsense about “Nigerian Men” this, Nigerian men that only comes from a “Nigerian Woman”. And the useless statistics about taking a sample of just 4 persons out of over 180million and using it to generalize is utter nonsense, non-scientific and at best self serving.
Lastly, you watch useless movies and try to make that the definition of reality, that is recipe for disaster. Where in the world do you have the best specimen of “Men”? Which country? Where? Pray tell me!
You have an image of the regular sex driven idiots that you you can manipulate easily and they become the “Men that know how to be men”.
You sit in Nigeria and begin to paint a picture of your utopian, non existent world, probably Europe where men have been reduced to shit and then you pontificate about the generality of Nigerian men.
Even in the places where you think “know how to be” men the latest reaction to the insistence on obliterating the male gender in the name of “feminism” is the MGTOW Movement...
The so called civilized societies are experiencing the results of trying to feminize the male gender and boys are becoming idiots and lazy.
My point is people are individuals not groups and there bad men and women across all divides. Vague generalization is laziness and self service!
passey: First of all, I can swear that this emotional bullcrap is from a frustrated woman fronting as a man. No guy in his right senses has time for this bullshit! Secondly, All the nonsense about “Nigerian Men” this, Nigerian men that only comes from a “Nigerian Woman”. And the useless statistics about taking a sample of just 4 persons out of over 180million and using it to generalize is utter nonsense, non-scientific and at best self serving.
Lastly, you watch useless movies and try to make that the definition of reality, that is recipe for disaster. Where in the world do you have the best specimen of “Men”? Which country? Where? Pray tell me!
You have an image of the regular sex driven idiots that you you can manipulate easily and they become the “Men that know how to be men”.
You sit in Nigeria and begin to paint a picture of your utopian, non existent world, probably Europe where men have been reduced to shit and then you pontificate about the generality of Nigerian men.
Even in the places where you think “know how to be” men the latest reaction to the insistence on obliterating the male gender in the name of “feminism” is the MGTOW Movement...
The so called civilized societies are experiencing the results of trying to feminize the male gender and boys are becoming idiots and lazy.
My point is people are individuals not groups and there bad men and women across all divides. Vague generalization is laziness and self service!
oolongtea: 5/5 [s]the reason the most resourceful richest continent on earth is the poorest and hated is cos of the african man has chosen to not grow up. to be a leader, u have to actually lead and stop being mad at women for your own low-esteem and feelings of inadequacy as a man. if a ship came from the US to draft ppl to pick cottons as slaves in america but they get to have asylum, most african men would run into that ship and with our history with ships from the US. it is a slap in the face that they took us forcefully before and now, we beg to be taken cos we failed to prove them wrong and stand on our own feet. i have lived in and out of nigeria and i can attest that the frailty our men show extends to diaspora and to women of all races and tribes and species even sef, they sink almost every woman they come in contact with who sticks around for longer than 3 seconds.
it's a chronic state of eternal stifled man syndrome which has led to very infantile males with an extreme hatred for women and a desire to diminish them cos they cant compete where other men have competed so they try to fight for what women have. we're the only race of men who brag about trying to marry for a better life, in other cultures, it's a female thing to want a knight in shining armor to marry and elevate u, in naija, women are insulted for wanting a knight in shining armor but it's ok for a man to hustle for sugar mommy or pretend to be a 19 yr old german girl and talk dirty to fellow men for cash in the name of yahoo yahoo, yet they hate oloshos who actually earn their money.
someone here suggested going behind a girl's back to tell her mother about a pregnancy she doesnt want to keep and many ppl here think just like him, they dont even want to think of what happens to the helpless child that they're joking about. not that the child is more important than the mother, it just shows these ppl hate women so much, they're willing to subdue a girl, at the expense of an unborn child. some of the comments on that thread were just ridiculous. and they all pointed to the same thing, not one of these ppl knew the real job of a father, they just think the girl will raise the baby and the man will occasionally "baby-sit" his own child like most nigerian men do and they're ok with that as if with the state of affairs, our system of everything has yielded such excellent results.
nigerian men, MAN UP! stop being a nuisance to yourselves. the world is headed somewhere ugly and many of u will implode. nigerian women, most of u go for wealth cos nigerian men are useless when it comes to romance so stay that way, those of u looking for love, actually have standards with men and never settle, if u cant find what you're looking for in a man, stay single, u can have sex when u want, go on dates, u can even have a baby if u're that drawn to motherhood, u carry the pikin, born am and enjoy your life cos believe me, the difference between the stress of a single mother and most married nigerian mothers is very slim. what does it say about nigerian men that his absence and presence can be taken to mean the same thing? if genitals are what make a man, then a he-goat is a man too. [/s]
Almost there... In this post op is saying all African men are infantile, not leaders, have low self esteem, self-hate, frail, hate women and suffer from 'stifled man syndrome'. She/he laso says Nigerian women go for wealth because Nigerian men are useless at romance.
I did it! I did it!!! I'm not a lazy Nigerian youth
This reads like a Western World as well as an African American /West Indian women critic on African American /West Indian men superimposed on Nigerian men. Nigerian men do well as Husbands, Fathers and boyfriends, probably the best in the black world, but we always welcome advice on how to be better at it.
Op kudos,I must say your writing skills are OK but in as much as you tried to pass your message across,you allowed emotions to becloud your sense of reasoning. Marriage/relationship has no specific method because what works for Mr A might not work for Mr B.You used one of the psq brother as an example I must tell you that what he did is exactly what every reasonable man will do. You should also understand that some women get pissed off if their man doesn't act like a man he is while some women are comfortable with the sissies.So you re not in any position to dictate to anybody how he or she can run his family.
Oolongtea , you're the man. Thumbs up. I'm not innocent but your truth is required in our community today. I agreed with you completely from Points 1 to 5. It's this lack of real men in our society that has degraded this nation to its current state. Hopefully, males will read with an open mind and work towards becoming men for today and for posterity. Once again, thumbs up.
who is this one, this early on monday, I should be reading this long episode because i want to prove something, madam shift jare
