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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Corrinthians(m): 10:31am On Sep 10, 2018
gaby:


My dear brother, please accept my unreserved and sincere apologies if my comment did come off as insulting. You probably took it out of context I'm sure.

I have never understood Almajiri to be an insulting word but I'm very open to being tutored by you on this and I promise to refrain from using it.

Not, and will never be in my character to lump and insult a person or group of persons.

Accept my apologies once again.

I'd edit my post the moment you point me to the demeaning word in my post with a proper definition of the word.

Kind regards sir...
It's all good. Regards.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Naajjii: 10:33am On Sep 10, 2018
AndLeo:
True. Most southerners especially Igbos are not registered voter. The ones that are registered are not ready to vote. But housas know the value of their votes and will do everything possible to vote.
And yet they complain the most.You don't do your home work yet you expect to rule .

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by gaby(m): 10:33am On Sep 10, 2018
Corrinthians:
It's all good. Regards.

Sorry..saw this late already dropped a comment..
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Benekruku(m): 10:34am On Sep 10, 2018
gaby:
Benekruku and Corrinthians my brothers and fellow Nigerians,

I have given you an opportunity above to educate me more about the Almajiri system, how it came about and is presently constituted.

I have also given you the opportunity to maturely retract your insults, unnecessary name-calling and tender an apology.

I gave myself the contract of suffering no fools to live, this is because I desire a better and more egalitarian Nigeria for you and I. We all must get sense because we share a common enemy.

I've grown beyond learning to talk or type, especially doling out insults trust me.

If you fail to retract your not so well thought through curse words and apologise, I promise you that by the time I'm done with you both you'd buy a very well knitted koboko on your way home to go use on your parents and politicians for bringing you and your ilks to such disrepute and ridicule.

If you were by any chance someone who could read, reason, process information and comprehend, you'd have noticed that I am an "Almajiri" like you, not by choice but made so by our thieving leaders and as such are fighting the same war.

You guys had better grow up and start changing the narrative. I was even happy that the likes of you now have access to the internet and by extension more information and hopeful you could start educating and changing the story, but here you chose to go insulting me.

Una dey learn work I swear..


Who asked for your biography
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by gaby(m): 10:36am On Sep 10, 2018
Benekruku:



Who asked for your biography

You are obviously irredeemable. You can better yours and peers lots believe me.

Asswipe..
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Espiy: 10:45am On Sep 10, 2018
JudasNaCarrot:
Abeg make we hear word.

Enlightenment by very few who subject the larger almajiri population to perpetual poverty.

Even with all the political power and enlightenment like you said,where are they?
The poorest,diseased, uneducated, drugs abusers,backward,insurgency and most of all religious bigotry.

It makes no sense at all.
Why are you so obsessed about the northerners..diseased? Lassa fever, ebola, which part of the country are they from, the north or the south? And do you know that 65% of HIV patients are from the south.shut up please, you don't know a thing about the north..and let's talk about kidnapping, yahoo boys, 419, prostitution.. The man just said the truth, despite the fact that northerners are not as educated as the southerners but when it comes to politics na dem dey lead you just can't accept it
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Nobody: 10:46am On Sep 10, 2018
oluwasegun007:
That's an open secrete...


POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE according to region..

NORTH: 50%

S.WEST: 25%

S. SOUTH: 15%

EAST: 10%

NOTE: it might seem a bias rating, but my SUBJECTIVE conclusion is based on political achievement of each region...

Truth is bitter.


Its true...but does it portray the ONE NIGERIA?

Is it actually economical wise?

Nigerians are actually the ones holding themselves down....by still voting


STOP VOTING AND SEE HOW YOU WILL SHAKE THE BALLANCE OF NIGERIA GOVERNMENT..... BECAUSE TRUST ME FROM CENSUS TO INEC VOTING CARD REGISTRATION.....TO THE VOTERS its has all been planned in favour of the north


CENSUS----- They are counted the highest in numbers with high margin


INEC REGISTERY----The resources for registering is very much available and stable for them....even home delivery for their card, some even have more than one card...and under age voters but Nigerians and INEC turn blind eye and term it normal in their region while in south west, south south and south east the story is different


VOTERS-----Under age voters is not seen as electoral crime if its in the north, they kept them un educated and feed them hatred against other tribes candidate.... Even in their religious places they teach them to only vote their own...must be same religion and tribe....so if you're from same tribe but a Christian you're not getting their vote because you're INFIDEL but in south east and south south is a different story....a southern man can vote another tribe man if he think he will do better....even his vote won't do much because the northern are considered by census higher in number of voters


REALISE THAT PVC IS NOT YOUR SALVATION AND STOP VOTING

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Nobody: 10:46am On Sep 10, 2018
Its true...but does it portray the ONE NIGERIA?

Is it actually economical wise?

Nigerians are actually the ones holding themselves down....by still voting


STOP VOTING AND SEE HOW YOU WILL SHAKE THE BALLANCE OF NIGERIA GOVERNMENT..... BECAUSE TRUST ME FROM CENSUS TO INEC VOTING CARD REGISTRATION.....TO THE VOTERS its has all been planned in favour of the north


CENSUS----- They are counted the highest in numbers with high margin


INEC REGISTERY----The resources for registering is very much available and stable for them....even home delivery for their card, some even have more than one card...and under age voters but Nigerians and INEC turn blind eye and term it normal in their region while in south west, south south and south east the story is different


VOTERS-----Under age voters is not seen as electoral crime if its in the north, they kept them un educated and feed them hatred against other tribes candidate.... Even in their religious places they teach them to only vote their own...must be same religion and tribe....so if you're from same tribe but a Christian you're not getting their vote because you're INFIDEL but in south east and south south is a different story....a southern man can vote another tribe man if he think he will do better....even his vote won't do much because the northern are considered by census higher in number of voters


REALISE THAT PVC IS NOT YOUR SALVATION AND STOP VOTING

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by gaby(m): 10:49am On Sep 10, 2018
Benekruku:



Who asked for your biography

Na from sambisa i go order and invoke sand storm wey go blind only you and your entire family so that you go fit carry plate well as una blind to go dey give block vote for a morsel of masa.

Animal.

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Bloggz74(m): 10:53am On Sep 10, 2018
nairavsdollars:
Prince Tony Momoh, a national leader of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC ) and former Minister of Information in this interview with TEMIDAYO AKINSUYI speaks on the chances of President Muhammadu Buhari in the 2019 presidential election and other issues of national interests. Excerpts:

Afenifere and some civil society groups are asking President Muhammadu Buhari to reject the N45.5million APC presidential nomination form bought for him by a shadowy group, Nigeria Consolidation Ambassadors Network (NCAN). What is your perspective on this?

That is an expression of opinion. Afenifere and the other groups that are talking, are they members of APC? So, people have a right to comment on what is happening in the environment in which they live. I don’t grudge them and I can’t deny them of their right to freedom of expression. People bought forms for Buhari, it is for him to accept or not to accept. I don’t see anything wrong in anybody showing interest. Atiku Abubakar even shed tears and broke down emotionally when people presented him with PDP nomination form because he was overwhelmed by that show of love. So, it depends. Some people can even say ‘No, I don’t want the free forms. I am going to look for money myself’. Buhari may thank the group and say he doesn’t want and he may accept it and show gratitude. If I am Buhari, I will say thank you for the assistance. But I am not Buhari. So, it is left for the President to react on whether to accept the gesture or not.

But do you think it is morally right for people to purchase free forms for politicians?

What is wrong in that? The truth is that no one man can fund an election. You need help from others. Do you know what it cost to even say you want to be an elected person at any level even as a councilor? If you know that as a councilor, within 18 months, you can build a house and then buy a Jeep, what will you not do to accept that office? That is why I have been asking for restructuring which will make politics a service and not a business. But today, it is a business. It is only people like President Buhari who are unique in themselves because of their attitude to service where at the presidential primaries of the APC in Lagos in 2014, he said ‘People may want Dollars or Naira, I don’t have. Even if I have, I won’t give’. That is when money was flowing all over the place among the aspirants to the delegates; $2,000 per delegates. Yet, despite not giving out money, Buhari still won. This monetising of politics is what a lot of people are fighting against when they said there should be direct primaries instead of indirect. In Osun state, some delegates were even demanding N750,000, so we had to have a direct primary where all the party members voted. So, making politics less expensive is a task that we must attend to but as it is right now, it is a very expensive business.

You once said President Buhari will score more than 25 percent votes in the South- South and South- East. Given recent defections by key stakeholders in the region to your party, do you see your predictions coming true?

I have always told you that there are indicators to assess now so that by the time the results are declared, nobody will say the election was rigged. In 2015, it is only in my state, Edo that Buhari scored more than 25 percent. He had 46 percent of votes. All other states in the South- South and South- East, he did not get up to 15 percent votes anywhere. But this time, he will have more votes in those regions than he had in 2015. First of all, the results in those places were packaged; they were just written up and I know that.

How do you know that the results were written up?

They were written up. In the case of Anambra, Imo and other places, how can the president have 98 percent votes? There was no state where he had less than 97 percent votes yet the governors of those states did not have up to 60 percent votes. That is because the results were written up.

But people have always contested the results Buhari got in the North too that the result in Kano was written up. What is your perspective on that?

I can assure you there is massive voting in the North. In our area, during the 2011 presidential election, information came that the political leaders have decided that the region should be delivered to Goodluck Jonathan. I was the national chairman of Congress for Progressives Change (CPC) that time. Then we agreed that let our people vote according to their conscience. So, the writing up of results did not affect our area and we had the highest vote for Buhari in the whole of the South. We had about 29,000 votes but in all other places, they just wrote up the results. The whole of the South- West was overrun by the PDP because there was an agreement between CPC and Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) but it did not bear fruit. Even ACN then did not support their presidential candidate, Nuhu Ribadu. It was only Osun state that supported Ribadu. Even in Adamawa, Ribadu lost. We didn’t have money to have agents in the South-West, so many of CPC votes were packaged in Ghana-must-go bags and thrown away. PDP overran the South- West because in fairness, if there was an agreement between ACN and CPC, ACN had no obligation than to protect our votes in the South West because they didn’t even pay agents to protect their own votes. They abandoned Ribadu. Later, after the 2011 election, we decided that the only way to achieve meaningful results is not through alliances but through merger. I, national chairman of CPC we dissolved our party. ACN also dissolved their party, ANPP also did the same and we merged into APC. That is why I tell you that PDP forming CUPP, it cannot work unless they dissolve and call themselves CUPP; one party with one symbol. You will see, when primaries start, everything will scatter. Alliances can be broken even on the eve of election. So, it is a big sacrifice to dissolve yourself and merge into one group. That is why I said all these talks about youth coming together in 2019 is a fallacy, they won’t come together. PDP has about 15 aspirants but only one will emerge and I am telling you that one who emerges will have to look for money to prosecute federal election. None of them is going to bring his own money to say they want to support him. Again, the centre which PDP controlled and were raiding as the ruling party is no longer there to control now. In the South- South and South- East, people of high caliber are moving into APC. So, what we expect is that Buhari coming and winning in 2015 is because of the massive contribution of the South West which allow for the presence of 25 percent spread. We are going to have at least 25 percent votes because there is hardly any state in the South- South and South- East where Buhari will not have up to 25 percent. That is certain. And if there is going to be any rigging, it will not work because Buhari has said nobody should rig for him. if there is going to be any rigging, it will be in the favour of the incumbent, so we don’t have a disadvantage. Those who were rigging before and writing up results cannot now write up results for anybody and if they do, it will be for Buhari but the President have said nobody should write up results for me. If I lose, I will go. ‘

In the North, in spite of what anybody is saying, since 2003, Buhari has been winning the North even when there were PDP governors. So, why do you think it will change now that majority of the Northern governors are APC? They said they are fielding a northern candidate, what difference will that make?

So in essence, are you saying all the votes President Buhari scored in the North during the 2015 elections were legitimate, none was written up for him?

Yes, all his votes are legitimate. None was written up for him. In fact, his votes were deducted in 2011. I protested to INEC. They had in the computer a programmed to deduct votes and they said it was a mistake. In Kano, 10 percent of the votes were deducted especially when there was counting. We said they should count physically. They did that but votes counted physically were different from the others. In Katsina, it was the same thing. INEC admitted it was a programming error. The 2011 election was rigged yet we had that number of votes. Let me say this with all sense of responsibility that the Northerners, you can say they are illiterate but they are more politically enlightened than the average Southern voters. If you see the Fulani herdsman, one thing he has apart from his stick is a radio and he is listening to Hausa service. You have Hausa service in BBC, Radio France, Germany, Russia and America. The Northerners listen to radio more than they watch television or read newspapers. It was Maiguard (security guard) here in Lagos who told me that MKO Abiola had died on July 7 1998. I said no, they were talking of the man being released. He said BBC said Abiola has died. And it turned out to be true. That is my own maiguard. In the whole of the northern belt, from Cameroun down to Senegal, they speak Hausa. When I was Minister, I used Radio Kaduna short wave to reach Voice of Nigeria. So, let us not deceive ourselves, these people are more politically enlightened than the average Southerners. When it is time for voters registration, they go home to register. When it is time for election, they go home to vote. How many of my people here travel home to vote during elections? Look at social media for example. A lot of our people are very active on social media but social media don’t vote. Those who manage social media should go and have their PVC. It is only PVC that gives you what you want through expression of your civic right by voting. On the day of election, some of the elites don’t even get out to queue and vote. We sit down in our house and watch televisions. More than 80 million people have been registered by INEC to vote but I am telling you, not up to 40 million people will vote nationwide. So, northerners are more politically enlightened than us.

https://independent.ng/northerners-are-politically-enlightened-than-southerners-tony-momoh/


This political issues have always been misunderstood several times.

My view is the south is more educated and there's room for diverse view, freedom of speech and decision adoption. Democratic norms comes with education.

Meanwhile the illiteracy level in the north prevents objective reasoning of the governed rather they rely on the directions of few elites who subject them to thier selfish decision.

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Nobody: 10:59am On Sep 10, 2018
lastmessenger:
I hate it when people just open mouth to say rubbish. Politics in Nigeria is all about religion, ethnicity and tribalism . It has never been about being enlightened or being smarter, It has always been about whether the president belong to the same tribe or religion.
God bless you.
Age has nothing to do with wisdom.

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Benekruku(m): 11:08am On Sep 10, 2018
gaby:


Na from sambisa i go order and invoke sand storm wey go blind only you and your entire family so that you go fit carry plate well as una blind to go dey give block vote for a morsel of masa.

Animal.

Are you hungry?
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by nokatakata: 11:09am On Sep 10, 2018
what did they achieve with the political enlightenment? poverty poverty and more poverty... They actually are not enlightened. They just know how to cheat and rig elections. Simple. If they so political enlightened, let them accept restructuring.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by IkwereBuIgbo(m): 11:19am On Sep 10, 2018
Espiy:

Why are you so obsessed about the northerners..diseased? Lassa fever, ebola, which part of the country are they from, the north or the south? And do you know that 65% of HIV patients are from the south.shut up please, you don't know a thing about the north..and let's talk about kidnapping, yahoo boys, 419, prostitution.. The man just said the truth, despite the fact that northerners are not as educated as the southerners but when it comes to politics na dem dey lead you just can't accept it

All what you mentioned above are all from the North, the North leads in all from virus to prostitution.
Just take the fact and move on.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Rhozabeth(m): 11:20am On Sep 10, 2018
The Northerners are more politically daft and corrupt than the southerners! That is why Britain like to ensure they are in power at all times since it is easier to push them around!

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by UncleJudax(m): 11:20am On Sep 10, 2018
FTjnr:


you're right...and that's because we're cowards.


if we protest, you'd cut our heads or bomb us in the bloody name of prafeet moooohamid to the glory of the idol called allah.
The southerners are not cowards. They are are divided.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Naajjii: 11:23am On Sep 10, 2018
Rhozabeth:
The Northerners are more politically daft and corrupt than the southerners! That is why Britain like to ensure they are in power at all times since it is easier to push them around!
Stop giving British excuse, British left since 58yrs back is that not more than enough time to fix things if its true.This democracy Obj 8yrs and Gej 6yrs what difference was made?
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Rhozabeth(m): 11:33am On Sep 10, 2018
Naajjii:

Stop giving British excuse, British left since 58yrs back is that not more than enough time to fix things if its true.This democracy Obj 8yrs and Gej 6yrs what difference was made?
The British may have left 100yrs ago butvdo u know the underground work these people so to perpetuate the Northerners in power? U obviously don't!
Nothing can be fixed in this country until we isolate ourselves from these people! Obj, Gej are all the same, doing their colonial masters bid! The only person that would have truly dealt with those guys was quickly cut short and that was Abiola!
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by princejenks(m): 11:52am On Sep 10, 2018
dats kinda true cos their very existence depended on it
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by abbansadeeq: 11:57am On Sep 10, 2018
JudasNaCarrot:
Abeg make we hear word.

Enlightenment by very few who subject the larger almajiri population to perpetual poverty.

Even with all the political power and enlightenment like you said,where are they?
The poorest,diseased, uneducated, drugs abusers,backward,insurgency and most of all religious bigotry.

It makes no sense at all.
You are also religious bigot.all these abuses and defamation of the north by you is based on your religious bigotry
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by emkz: 12:04pm On Sep 10, 2018
Let's face it, what this man said is the truth. We need to stop kidding ourselves. The northerners may be illiterate, dumb and almajiris (as we'd like to think), but in terms of political enlightenment, sophistication, they make minced meat of other parts of the country. Go to NNPC, it looks like Hausa Quarters even when Jonathan was president. Go to any ministry or government agency; in the top echelon, there is a northerner. We shout unemployment all over the place, please do you know any educated or uneducated northerner who is unemployed? The point I am making is that instead of insulting our elders, let us filter what we hear and say the truth. The northerners are smart, united and they hardly complain when things don't go their way. They fight to take it back.

Back to the main point, the northerners are ready to make sacrifices when it comes to matters of elections and choosing their representatives. Go and look at the statistics on the voter's turnout. Most of the states in the north recorded more than 70% turnout while the southern states were doing 40-60% and you want to win. I think it was Bauchi state in the last elections that they stayed until night and followed the van to deliver electoral materials to the state INEC office. How do you rig in such a scenario? Now, how many southerners are prepared to make these sacrifices? Until we get our acts together and unite in one voice and become electorally aware by picking up our PVCs and participating in voting from primaries to the actual elections, the northerners would continue to have an edge over us. Instead of calling them names, let us learn from them.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by PhenomenalMorgan(m): 12:06pm On Sep 10, 2018
ItsMeAboki:


Yet the same backward ppl you were disparaging have been ruling you lot for most of your miserable lives.

Pls tell me what does that say for your so called advancement and superior education - wise guy?
With all the political heavyweights dat u guy have been producing how has it helped u

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Xander85: 12:07pm On Sep 10, 2018
They're not! They are just more devious and more cohesive as a unit thanks to Islam.

Having a horde of zombies at your beck and call doesn't translate to being more politically aware!

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Brightology2(m): 12:13pm On Sep 10, 2018
JudasNaCarrot:
That is exactly what I'm saying....you guys have been in leadership yet it has not transformed your region,rather you are the most impoverished. You guys have dragged the whole of the country backwards with you just like a drowning man in the river.

I live in the core North so I'm not making up this story. Its a shame that we share same space with you people because you don't value human life and instead of advancement,you are retrogressive.
Everything is from the south....
teachers,doctors,engineers,even students. All you guys do is to depend on Federal allocation.
God bless you sir. all what you wrote are nothing but the truth. I stay there too

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Naajjii: 12:33pm On Sep 10, 2018
Rhozabeth:

The British may have left 100yrs ago butvdo u know the underground work these people so to perpetuate the Northerners in power? U obviously don't!
Nothing can be fixed in this country until we isolate ourselves from these people! Obj, Gej are all the same, doing their colonial masters bid! The only person that would have truly dealt with those guys was quickly cut short and that was Abiola!
What underground are you talking here? the thing is northern Nigeria are more contended people , contended with little things they have, they have a second official language (hausa) spoken all over north, they don't hassle to go abroad , yankee , America by any means to escape the economic situation in nigeria You are running from Nigeria in large numbers every year how do you expect to have control than northerners.And if you go you never come back.
You complain all the time about lopsidedness while northern got the confidence that they are in charge. The British left a balance structure the problem is igbo and Yoruba keep fighting no unity. I think you people should go and figure things out. All these complaints are just excuses for failure.

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by Amhappy(f): 12:49pm On Sep 10, 2018
Its an open secret that the North are the most enlighten politically since the advent of Nigeria. The South need political education to throw away the 'it no concern me attitude'. In the North 95% of eligible voters have PVCs but in the South i put it at 55%. Lets not even talk of non eligible/underage voters sef.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by IbrahimDamola: 2:00pm On Sep 10, 2018
Aboki say him dey politically enlightened, me I say mass zombiefication due to illiteracy using the Islamic religion as vehicle of propaganda in their mosques every friday is the reason why they are holding the country to ransom. It is also the reason why Boko haram have come to stay forever.

Boko will be used by north to harrass and intimidate southern christian presidents, they will never go away.

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Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by ItsMeAboki(m): 6:29pm On Sep 10, 2018
PhenomenalMorgan:
With all the political heavyweights dat u guy have been producing how has it helped u

Address the issue I first raised, before asking me any questions; i.e. how come the so called educated, intelligent ones have allowed themselves to be led by the allegedly less advanced, backwards ones - who then are the dumb ones?
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by ItsMeAboki(m): 6:35pm On Sep 10, 2018
ifiokjohn:
how can a ruler be more poor,backward,diseased, and dull than those they rule.
Pls tell me what does that say about their political enlightenment?

It is obviously clear that someone is suffering from delusion of grandeur and therefore unable to differentiate between supremacy of power against ordinary wealth.
Re: Northerners Are More Politically Enlightened Than Southerners -Tony Momoh by ifiokjohn(m): 6:39pm On Sep 10, 2018
ItsMeAboki:


It is obviously clear that someone is suffering from delusion of grandeur and therefore unable to differentiate between supremacy of power against ordinary wealth.
supremacy of power is an illusion. The north need To align with the west and the north central..Without those two, they are irrelevant

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