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Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 10:35am On Apr 20, 2019
If Muslim governments seek to cater for the poor, why not leave Muslims on zakat and impose a special tax on all the rich(regardless of faith) to raise fund for all the poor(regardless of faith)?

Or why not allot from the federal and state revenue a budget to cater for the poor? Why force Muslims to pay zakat, knowing fully well that unless zakat is paid willing, there is no divine reward for the payer?
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 10:35am On Apr 20, 2019
What is so WRONG with enforcing Jizya

In traditional Islam, the penalty for Jizya refusal by non-Muslims is war by Muslims. Please see hadith; https://sunnah.com/abudawud/15/136.

Popular & Flawed Argument for enforcing Jizya:
"Jizya is a tax for non-Muslims under sharia, to compensate the state for protection. Especially as non-Muslims don't partake in Jihad or pay zakat."
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 10:37am On Apr 20, 2019
Please see my thread, The Puzzled's Guide to Jizya, for alternative Qur'an centric interpretation of Jizya. Also, look up Qur'an 9:29 where Jizya is only mentioned. It states nothing of Jizya being a compensation for any benefit or priviledge for non-Muslims.

Here is a summary of my refutation of Jizya:

Firstly, the Jizya is not relatable to zakat. It does not necessarily goes to the cater for the welfare of the poor, Muslim or non-Muslim. Muslims are the exclusive beneficiary of Jizya. Ironically though, non-Muslims never benefit from zakat.
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 10:37am On Apr 20, 2019
Secondly, jizya has no fixed price, unlike zakat. Also, jizya may not be paid by women, unlike zakat. And also, the penalty for jizya evasion is death, just as zakat, but unlike secular tax.

Jizya ≠ Zakat ≠ Tax.

Thirdly, if the jizya is compensation by non-Muslims for enjoying protection under Islamic state, why the death penalty for jizya evadors? Why not exile them or seize some of their properties?
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 10:38am On Apr 20, 2019
Fourthly, why charge only non-Muslims for enjoying state protection? Most Muslims in the Islamic state do not serve in the military or police, why not also charge them for the security and protection they benefit?
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by najib632(m): 11:06am On Apr 20, 2019
Ultramane:
Secondly, jizya has no fixed price, unlike zakat. Also, jizya may not be paid by women, unlike zakat. And also, the penalty for jizya evasion is death, just as zakat, but unlike secular tax.

Jizya ≠ Zakat ≠ Tax.

Thirdly, if the jizya is compensation by non-Muslims for enjoying protection under Islamic state, why the death penalty for jizya evadors? Why not exile them or seize some of their properties?
Who said Jizyah is Zakat? Who said the penalty for the evasion of Zakat and Jizya is death penalty? People goto university to earn degrees in Shari'a, but here As-Sheik Ultramane Al-Nayralandwiy thinks his few sentences he can refute the works of orthodox scholars, with his ignorance of both the Qur'an and Hadith.
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Ultramane: 11:40am On Apr 20, 2019
najib632:
Who said Jizyah is Zakat? Who said the penalty for the evasion of Zakat and Jizya is death penalty? People goto university to earn degrees in Shari'a, but here As-Sheik Ultramane Al-Nayralandwiy thinks his few sentences he can refute the works of orthodox scholars, with his ignorance of both the Qur'an and Hadith.

In my experience, many Muslim apologists justify jizya on grounds that Muslims are bound to pay zakat while non-Muslims are not. They then try to draw parallels between the jizya and zakat, in apology for jizya in civilized times.

The penalty for evading zakat or salat is death. This is because evading either of these is tantamount to apostasy in traditional Islam, the punishment for apostasy being death. Remember the hadith on Abu Bakr fighting those who withheld zakat. Remember that all the traditional schools of Islamic law declare death penalty for evasion of salat or zakat.

As for jizya evasion, I do not recall any hadith directly legalizing death sentence. I'm not really sure what the traditional schools declare. But remember, the option for non-Muslims invaded by Muslim army are three; Islam or jizya or death. But none of this changes a thing, the concept of jizya in orthodox Islam is antiquated, oppressive and biased.

As to earning university degree on sharia, this is a scam. The law of God should be accessible for lay man without spending decades of his life and so much money in the university, as if he were a student of Medicine or Rocket science.
Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 12:39pm On Apr 20, 2019
^^

Keep deceiving yourself. You are simply looking for cheap ways to frustrate all pillars of Islam and eventually vanquish them. It is not gonna happen.

Zakat has everything to do with the society. Take it or leave it. Maybe this link may help you

http://islamiccenter.org/what-are-the-benefits-of-zakat-on-society/

Why don't you look into "zakat" of the church who have shamelessly abandoned their religious rite on this issue in their own Book for fraudulent tax system?.

How about tithe?. Let's just say that's their "zakat". Who does that benefit?. Yet a church member who doesn't pay tithe is "acursed". What is or are the benefits of tithe compared to zakat?

Who gets tithe

Who gets zakat?

Remember tithe is not restricted to Nigeria

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