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Re: The Greatest Miracle In Islam by seyibrown(f): 7:52pm On Dec 10, 2010
First name is not always a good or specific way to identify an individual. If we wrote just Seyi on the board, some other person may think it was his/her own seyi, hence we write brown after to specify Seyibrown. Do we have this in the Bible writers? John; what John or John what?

Lovely question  grin. I promise to answer but please give me the surname of the Jesus mentioned in the Quran (only asking since he is mentioned and glorified in the Quran) or from anywhere else!

Was he given any by his SENDER to preach or he just made up his own, without any "Authority" over him, even though we read verses where he said he was sent? Sending cant be without any instruction. Can we say the Instruction[s] were revelations? Please point out such a possible "revelation" to us. I do hope that one of these two is; 1. Your servant Jesus, who You sent. 2. My father and I are 1.

Jesus taught what he 'heard' of the father! He said he is in the father and the father is in him, and that he and the father are ONE! Jesus was the message - THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE! The 'MESSAGE' came down! The 'word of God' came down to his peope! God CAME DOWN to his people! JESUS is THE WORD OF GOD. sweetnecta's word is sweetnecta! GOD'S WORD IS GOD! God's word is AUTHORITY!

I will accept that one of the statements numbered 1 and 2 is NOT TRUE when you SHOW ME THE 'ORIGINAL GOSPEL' that NEGATES the one you don't believe!


Did he preach make up from his own mind, or was it revelation from his Sender? I am asking this question because I need to know how the Bible writers were able to describe the events of Mary's pregnancy, the birth of Jesus, and other matters, which Jesus was too young to know and the writers were not present when they happened.

He spoke the mind of THE FATHER THAT WAS INSIDE HIM AND THAT HE WAS ALSO INSIDE! Jesus' mother was alive and would have told the story concerning his birth. Same goes for 'other matters', those who witnessed or were informed of the events gave accounts.

The teaching[s] of Jesus included the ghost coming upon and powerfully overshadowing Mary, delivering baby in a mearnger. Do you live your lives like that?

The words of Jesus' did not include the above but the account of those around say that and the event of a 'virgin being with child' had already been prophesied in the Old Testament and the people were expecting it to happen; Jesus conception was the fulfilment of that prophecy! The Holy Spirit 'came upon' people in the OT, in the NT and still comes upon people today. It is not SE-XU- AL IN-TER-COU-RSE, it is 'FEELING THE PRESENCE OF GOD'S SPIRIT! Yes, we still 'live our lives like that': THE HOLY SPIRIT LIVES IN US AND WE 'FEEL HIS PRESENCE' WHEN HE WANTS US TO! grin

So his lifestyle itself shouldnt count, though you are trying to imitate this lifestyle. It is the imitation that counts, not the original? Is that not possible therefore that if he said something, someone might have heard something else, entirely different and ran with it? A servant cant be the sired don of the same exact entity. Or is that possible?

I believe my straightforward answer adequately addressed the lady's straightforward question. JESUS is the CHRIST; His FOLLWERS are the CHRISTIANS!

You will always read hadith saying, from the authority of such and such, to such and such, to such and such, until the such and such person is the companion (RA) of the Messenger (AS). Such companion will say; I heard the messenger of Allah say Such and such on the occasion of such and such. That begins to give a reason for somebody to even look at it as a possible hadith. Then you will look at the chain of narration, examining the narrators and also applying the hadith to Quranic verse or verses, the possible and already known quality of the messenger (AS), and other factors of how many chain of narrations. Hadith is a discipline all by itself.

Hadith since we have from fake to weak all the way to strong, its more like your Bible its fake to weak all the way to strong verses.If you remember that i argued that the "hadith" of Aisha saying that she was 6 or 9 was not sound and hence not a hadith because it didnt say I heard the Messenger say such and such, . . . .

In other words, Hadiths are not 'revelation' from Allah but 'eye-witness' accounts of Mohammed's companions! Please correct if wrong!

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Re: The Greatest Miracle In Islam by promise10: 3:22pm On Feb 05, 2016
Jesus is God in the likeness of men dwelling among men. Now, see the proofs that Mohammed is demon possessed prophet who has unfortunately deceived billions of people but thanks to Jesus who is revealing himself to many muslims including Islamic terrorists through dreams(just as it happened to paul who was the most radical christian persecutor at his own time)that has made them converted to the divine relationship with Jesus.
See for yourself and judge!
Death
Jesus died and rose from the dead.
Muhammad died and stayed dead.
Fighting
Jesus never fought.
Muhammad fought many many times.
Hearing from God
When Jesus heard from God, He went to the desert
to be tempted and began His ministry with
boldness. (Mark 1:14-15).
When Muhammad heard from God (supposedly
through an angel), he cowered, was uncertain, and
wanted to commit suicide. (Quran 74:1-5).
Identity
Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:24,8:58) as well as
a man.
Jesus claimed to be the way, the truth, and the life.
(John 14:6).
Muhammad claimed to be a man.
Instructions Received
Jesus received from God the Father (John 5:19).
Mohammad allegedly from an angel.
Killing
Jesus never killed anyone.
Muhammad killed many.
Life
Jesus had the power to take life but never did. He
restored it.
Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never
restored it. No one ever died in Jesus'
presence.Many people died in Muhammad's
presence--he killed them.
Marriage
Jesus never married.
Muhammad had over 20 wives and even married a
nine-year-old girl.
Ministry
Jesus received His calling from God directly. (Matt.
3:17).Jesus received His commission in the
daylight.
Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel
(Gabriel).Muhammad received his words in the
darkness of a cave.
Ministry Length
Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years.
Muhammad taught for more than 20 years.
Miracles
Jesus performed many miracles including healing
people, calming a storm with a command, and
raising people from the dead.
Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran.
Prophecy
Jesus fulfilled Biblical prophecy about being the
Messiah.
Muhammad did not fulfill any Biblical prophecy
except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24).
Sacrifice
Jesus voluntarily laid his life down for others.
Muhammad saved his own life many times and had
others killed.
SinJesus never sinned. (1 Pet. 2:22).
Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55, 48:1-2).
Slaves
Jesus owned no slaves.
Muhammad owned slaves.
Virgin Birth
Jesus was virgin born.
Muhammad was not virgin born.
Voice of God
Jesus received and heard the direct voice of God.
(Mark 1:10-11).
Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice
of God. It was an angel instead.
Women
Jesus spoke well of women.
Muhammad said that women were 1/2 as smart as
men (Hadith 3:826, 2:541) and that majority in hell
will be women (Had. 1:28, 301, 2:161, 7:124) and
that women could be mortgaged.
Our relationship with GOD.
Muhammed claimed that we are slaves to ALLAH.
Jesus said; but as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them to them that believe on his name(john 1:12)
Trinity.
Muhammed claimed that the trinity in the Bible is false as he said they are God(Allah that he is not a father to us but MASTER and we are his SLAVES), Jesus(a prophet of ALLAH and not the son of God)and Mary(the mother of Jesus), but his assertions are false as his is demon possessed and of the flesh as christ said; that which is born of the flesh is of the flesh; and that which is born of the spirit is of the spirit(john 3:6).
Jesus claimed the trinity are God(A father to us- not just as our earthly father who need a wife because he(God) is self sufficient), Himself(Jesus the son of God i.e God himself humble himself to make himself flesh and born of a virgin without intercourse but by the power of the spirit of truth to save man for the reward of Sins which is death- that's why he died in place of the whole world though he was without sin ), and the holyspirit( the spirit of truth that he promised to send to us and the spirit of truth shall teach us all thing, which he later sent few day after his ascension)
BEWARE! BEWARE!! BEWARE!!!; Any person who tells you that the spirit of truth is the mohammed, must be from the pit of hell and of the devil, because mohammed is not a spirit, as he died of fever at the age of 63 and stayed away and nobody knows where he went to as he cannot go to heaven after committing so many atrocities, but christ who was crucified for the redemption of man died and on the third day resurrected lived with men for 40days before ascending into heaven(which Quran confirmed his ascension) and promised us the holyspirit(spirit of truth)that will live in us forever(of which mohammed cannot live in man because he is not a spirit) and be our comforted forever
THINK ABOUT IT, READ INFORMATIONS ABOUT HIM ON THE INTERNET TO KNOW WHO IS JESUS AND. MAKE HIM YOUR LORD, FOR PAUL SAID: And if christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also in vain(1cor.15:14)
CHRIST ALONE IS LORD!!
Re: The Greatest Miracle In Islam by kanmyokoya: 5:06pm On Aug 10, 2016
[quote author=jcross22 post=4881357]@abuzola, @jcross, the reason why the sword was used is because so that you miscreant won't spread mischief in town, why did Moses and david used the sword ? ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU SAID HERE, I WILL NOW TELL YOU DAVID AS KING , HE NEED TO DEFEND HIS OWN KINGDOM OKAY, AND AS FOR MOSES BEING LEADER ,HE NEVER FORCE THEM BY SWORDS TO ALMIGHTY GOD OKAY EVEN AH MOSES AND DAVID ARE THEY SPREADING MESSAGE OR THEY ARE LEADER. but for your wanabe prophet terrorizing people,he even confirmed it by saying all granted him FIVE THINGS which he never granted to any other prophets of , in which one it is TERROR.okay[/quote


@JCROSS 22
KEEP IN MIND THAT WHATEVER EXCUSES YOU ASCRIBE TO MOSES ALSO APPLIES TO MUHAMMED BECAUSE HE ALSO RULED ACROSS THE WHOLE OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA BEFORE HE DIED. BEFORE THIS TIME HE HAD ALSO BEEN THE IMAM FOR THE MUSLIMS AND HE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THE WARS TO DEFEND HIS FOLLOWERS (HE WAITED ON ALLAHS PERMISSION BEFORE FIGHTING ANY WARS) BECAUSE HE WAS REALLY . I IMPLORE YOU TO STICK TO YOU FAITH AND STOP TALKING WHAT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT MUHAMMED

WE ALL KNOW JESUS WAS NOT A WAR LORD BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN ALL PROPHETS ARE NOT WARLORD.
FOR THESE REASONS IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN MUHAMMED PLEASE STICK TO YOUR FAITH AND LEAVE HIM HIM FOR US

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