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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by drololaaof: 6:36pm On Mar 25, 2019

The long treatise by Oduntan et al is for increase in tariff wheither they supply electricy or not

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by judgementyard(m): 6:37pm On Mar 25, 2019

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Oooops: 6:40pm On Mar 25, 2019

hokafor:
may be he is one of the beneficiary of the of the show of shame

There is no show of shame here.
The discos are not run by spirits. They are human to and are there for business
They made valid points. You can't claim that estimated billing should be criminalized yet prepaid meters are not available. How do u bill?

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by maasoap(m): 6:41pm On Mar 25, 2019

What about the money collected by the DISCOs from the consumers over the years without supplying prepaid meters

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by caye(m): 6:43pm On Mar 25, 2019

Blue3k:

...the conditions required for electricity supply to become stable in the country, Oduntan said it was necessary for the government to allow for cost-reflective tariff in the sector, provide financial subsidies for people who may not be able to pay the right tariff, and create regulatory assets scheme for the Discos.

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to allow for cost-reflective tariff in the sector: = more increase in price of electricity

2. provide financial subsidies for people who may not be able to pay the right tariff := another scheme to scam givernment a la excuses not to provide meters

3. create regulatory assets scheme for the Discos.:= NEPA subsidy fraud like Petroleum subsidy fraudb to favour the rich politicians and former Generals who bought/ sold NEPA to themselves and friends

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Preator: 6:44pm On Mar 25, 2019

Stalwert:
Discos want to test their luck but the repercussions will hit them hard. Thank God license renewal is close.

Lols. Those guys have a 15yrs license with option to renew for another 10. Don't know how the 5 yrs license hoax started sef

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Preator: 6:46pm On Mar 25, 2019

drololaaof:
The long treatise by Oduntan et al is for increase in tariff wheither they supply electricy or not

The tarrif is actually already high. Government is promising the discos the excess above what the discos charge us as regulatory assets. They haven't fulfilled that since though.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by PrimadonnaO(f): 6:46pm On Mar 25, 2019

Orpe7:
Nigerians are generally theives
My landlord with the fact that he has prepaid o, still connected light direct. With Two Splits units this mofo go use all of them till daybreak
What pains me the most about this is that the idiot dey collect pumping water money from me again dey lie say na ontop him meter dey water dey. Meter wey d units no change for days
Any time nepa officials come baba no go gree make dem enter him house o.
Like say make i snitch am sef

Snitch on him and your light will go off.

I really can't say, but it's beginning to seem like they've even found a way to tweak the meter reading. I recently moved to a new place, basic home appliances, but in less than a month, we had spent 29k recharging the meter!!

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Preator: 6:53pm On Mar 25, 2019

caye:

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to allow for cost-reflective tariff in the sector: = more increase in price of electricity

2. provide financial subsidies for people who may not be able to pay the right tariff := another scheme to scam givernment a la excuses not to provide meters

3. create regulatory assets scheme for the Discos.:= NEPA subsidy fraud like Petroleum subsidy fraudb to favour the rich politicians and former Generals who bought/ sold NEPA to themselves and friends

Regulatory assets doesn't work like the fuel subsidy scam. It basically allows the Discos to book the actual cost reflective tarrif in their financial statements while charging customers a lower rate. This ensures that discos have strong financial position to be able to source finance outside. Or is there anyone who will lend money to a firm that has recorded losses five years in a row?

2ndly, it is expected that government will allow the discos to net off the regulatory asset against the amount due to NBET. So no physical cash is transferred like the fuel subsidy.
Note that NBET invoice to discos is always cost reflective and at the prevailing dollar rate. Yet discos are not allowed to pass on the cost by FGN

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by 1stNumeroUno: 6:53pm On Mar 25, 2019

This is Nigeria where electricity is a luxurious product.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Preator: 6:58pm On Mar 25, 2019

Orpe7:
Nigerians are generally theives
My landlord with the fact that he has prepaid o, still connected light direct. With Two Splits units this mofo go use all of them till daybreak
What pains me the most about this is that the idiot dey collect pumping water money from me again dey lie say na ontop him meter dey water dey. Meter wey d units no change for days
Any time nepa officials come baba no go gree make dem enter him house o.
Like say make i snitch am sef

Please do.

But that's the reason why discos don't want to provide meters(apart from the fact its capital intensive). A lot of the meters are bypassed and they won't grant access to inspect because they are on prepaid.

We are all responsible for not having power as a nation. Discos, government, regulators, consumers and customers.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Nobody: 6:58pm On Mar 25, 2019

Were they ever responsible for distributing meters? Or even electricity for that matter. After swindling millions of Nigerians of their hard earned money for meters.

Nonsense

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by kikake: 6:58pm On Mar 25, 2019

Good.

Hopefully, Enugu Disco shall soon stop the daylight robbery in community bills.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by bigfish3k: 7:02pm On Mar 25, 2019

then u shouldnt be responsible for collecting bills on estimated form

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Owutuotuo(m): 7:04pm On Mar 25, 2019

Kendumazy:
Ohhh boy! Lies! They did 88 percent of house metering.

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No, they did 88% of their 5-year set target. Not the same thing as your inference.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by kikake: 7:04pm On Mar 25, 2019

sbashir10:
Kaduna electric are thieves, some of their staffs openly admitted that, the company don't want to give prepaid meters because it is not generating enough money, unlike what they generate from people using direct livht without meters.

It is very pathetic, very sad our indegenous companies are milking us dry.

A strong and working president should have stopped the discos milking customers dry as the discos refuse pre paid meter distribution.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by kikake: 7:06pm On Mar 25, 2019

What is there in local manufacturing or importing pre paid electricity pay as you go meters?

Criminals everywhere who silently kill the masses.

Give the contract to one artisan in Nnewi to manufacture pre paid meters today, by one month pre paid meters shall be like groundnuts everywhere in Nigeria.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by kevoh(m): 7:06pm On Mar 25, 2019

PrimadonnaO:

Snitch on him and your light will go off.

I really can't say, but it's beginning to seem like they've even found a way to tweak the meter reading. I recently moved to a new place, basic home appliances, but in less than a month, we had spent 29k recharging the meter!!

Call a qualified electrical engineer or technician to come and check your Home wiring. Someone is tapping electricity from you, using it anyhow and making you pay for it.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Mccullum: 7:08pm On Mar 25, 2019

The truth is MAP will be selling the meter for interested house owners and tenants while DISCOS will own the card if it's pre-prepayment meter because there's digital post-payments meter too, this new arrangement will be like buying of phone and DISCOS will just be the service provider that'll issue cards for subscriptions .

And frustration of estimated bills will force some Nigerians to purchase meters from map via DISCOS.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Preator: 7:11pm On Mar 25, 2019

Mccullum:
The truth is MAP will be selling the meter for interested house owners and tenants while DISCOS will own the card if it's pre-prepayment meter because there's digital post-payments meter too, this new arrangement will be like buying of phone and DISCOS will just be the service provider that'll issue cards for subscriptions .

And frustration of estimated bills will force some Nigerians to purchase meters from map via DISCOS.

Fortunately for the Discos though, the MAP bears the responsibility to ensure meters are not bypassed and faulty meters repaired/replaced speedily. Else the MAP bears the loss of revenue suffered by the discos.
So expect MAP to charge for bearing that risk. Meter cost may be high.
Furthermore, you may buy the meter upfront or pay monthly over 5years or so. That means the MAP charges you finance costs too. Unfortunately, the MAP regulation did not cap the amount the MAP can charge like they did for CAPMI scheme.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by CaptainFM1: 7:15pm On Mar 25, 2019

God bless Femi Gbajabiamila for Championing this bill.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by PrimadonnaO(f): 7:18pm On Mar 25, 2019

kevoh:

Call a qualified electrical engineer or technician to come and check your Home wiring. Someone is tapping electricity from you, using it anyhow and making you pay for it.

OMG! Why didn't I think of that? cry

Thanks, I'll do just that.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by israelmao(m): 7:20pm On Mar 25, 2019

This power sector is a sibling of NNPC,Fashola should bury his face shame

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Ademiju20: 7:20pm On Mar 25, 2019

Very soon, you will be hearing them saying "We are no longer responsible for distributing power to consumers". Everybody is just shifting responsibilities in this era of next level.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by poseidon12: 7:21pm On Mar 25, 2019

Orpe7:
Nigerians are generally theives
My landlord with the fact that he has prepaid o, still connected light direct. With Two Splits units this mofo go use all of them till daybreak
What pains me the most about this is that the idiot dey collect pumping water money from me again dey lie say na ontop him meter dey water dey. Meter wey d units no change for days
Any time nepa officials come baba no go gree make dem enter him house o.
Like say make i snitch am sef

If you are on estimated billing, you should report your landlord to the power company because you are actually paying for the bypass he did. It's because of people like him that the estimated billing customers are paying for energy they did not use.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by ProAnti: 7:27pm On Mar 25, 2019

Preator:

Regulatory assets doesn't work like the fuel subsidy scam. It basically allows the Discos to book the actual cost reflective tarrif in their financial statements while charging customers a lower rate. This ensures that discos have strong financial position to be able to source finance outside. Or is there anyone who will lend money to a firm that has recorded losses five years in a row?

2ndly, it is expected that government will allow the discos to net off the regulatory asset against the amount due to NBET. So no physical cash is transferred like the fuel subsidy.
Note that NBET invoice to discos is always cost reflective and at the prevailing dollar rate. Yet discos are not allowed to pass on the cost by FGN

A big issue with us Nigerians is the desire to adopt socialist philosophies when it comes to public utilities and services but embrace capitalism when there is money to be made.

We want free education, low-cost health care, free potable water, cheap petrol and I dare say, free electricity. We not only want free services, we demand high quality service delivery not minding the cost of producing such. Because we are so accustomed to fuel subsidies, we now think it's our right to get subsidised electricity which most of us end up wasting. Our government makes it worse in a bid to look pro-people and with the way the vilify private companies who insist on providing services only if the costs are fully covered.

The power sector will never work if government does not allow cost-reflective tariffs or pay for revenue shortfalls where they insist on cheap electricity. The idea that the citizens cannot afford to pay the correct price for electricity is fallacious as a large proportion of Nigerians already spend a lot more powering their homes with generators and unknowingly spending a lot on treating sicknesses which may not be unconnected to the bad air we breathe as a result of generator fumes or lack of proper sleep due to generafor sounds.

On the topic, the Discos are correct that they are no longer responsible for metering as NERC has licensed Metering Assets Providers to take on that responsibility.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by ubee(m): 7:43pm On Mar 25, 2019

Typical inability of some of us Nigerians to apply common sense, be rational and honest. It's difficult to see a lot of people with these virtues.

What is this individual ranting about. Estimated billing is a necessity, it's needed because if you decide to allow people without meters consume power for free, there will be an uproar by those with meters, and rightly so because it's unfair.

Issue estimated bills, but don't issue criminal and prohibitive bills to people, it's just wicked and unconscionable.

It takes me about 4 to 5 weeks to consume 3k worth of electricity via my meter, but when i did not have meter, those soulless demons used to throw 12k monthly at me to pay. Imagine how crazy that is? So in an ideal situation where i should be paying about 36k to 40k max a year, i was paying about 144k to 150k a year.
Is that not crazy?
Discos should issue estimated bills to people, but they should come out with a flat price estimate for people, and it should be at a very fair price. If they are feeling grumpy about it, then it will motivate them to supply more meters to those who need it.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by ophilly: 7:57pm On Mar 25, 2019

Joromi12:
As an ex consultant with enugu disco i cant tell u the system has no hope. Pple owing discos, discos owing CBN, NBET owing discos. The whole cycle na doom o. People contributed for meters before fashola scrapped it . Yet the discos could not give every one who paid. Fukery

Very saddening. I hope you are just being pessimistic about the situation

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by NnadyAutos: 7:57pm On Mar 25, 2019

Passing a bill criminalizing estimated bill is a wellcome development. I don't see why I should pay for something I cant say how the cost is generated. I was given an estimated bill of #21000, in the month of January 2019, while electricity supply was just 9 days out of 31days in January.when i got to EEDC office at Aba Abia State to ask why the high bill I was told they use methodology, I requested to know the module, they could not produce it. Meanwhile, I have applied for meter since 2017 via their head office in Enugu without success.They are

frustrating the metre issue because their income will drop once metre is in place.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by jamace(m): 8:11pm On Mar 25, 2019

DISCOs are criminals. They have been avoiding issuing meters to customers because that will not yield much profit for them. DISCOs are just exploiting Nigerians with estimated billings.

Moreover, some of the DISCO staff are criminals too. They collect egunje from customers who do not want to pay bills. Infact, the level of corruption in this country is at next level.

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Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by poseidon12: 8:18pm On Mar 25, 2019

asuustrike1:
For improvement in power the tariff rates has to go up. Aside that the each house connected to the network must be metered be it prepaid or postpaid. Both prepaid and postpaid are beneficial to the consumers if they utilize it well

Exactly.

Re: We Are No Longer Responsible For Electricity Meters - Discos Tell Consumers by Uricas(m): 8:18pm On Mar 25, 2019

israelmao:
This power sector is a sibling of NNPC,Fashola should bury his face shame

You don't know anything than name calling. What could Fashola possible do in this situation that has not been done. Learn!

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