A hard lesson but learnt. Dont ever try to write anything against this government especially thru facebook or other social network that captures your true profile or else you will end some where., this is an advanced democraczy

SmartyPants:


12 years is extreme for libel.

What length of jail term would you have recommended to the judge in this particular case, knowing that no two court cases are exactly the same?

And are you prepared to force your rep and senator to change relevant laws?

Just asking.

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tactius:


So I can open a facebook page and make allegations that you are a thief and adulterer, and by your logic I can get away with it.

You did not read the article. Guy you are defending made an allegation on facebook against a government official. Asked to prove his case, he had zero evidence.

Of course, he got into trouble for libel

The judge is insane for giving him 12 years.
Even rapist don't get half of that.

Wiseandtrue:

Whatever you choose to call him, he is far better than Buhari

He [GEJ] surrounded himself with Northerners desperate for power at all cost, him thinking that carrying them along is the best

But we all saw how that fared

If that was not "docility and foolishness" on the part of GEJ as aptly stated by the poster you responded to, then I don't know what it was.

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duwdu:


What length of jail term would you have recommended to the judge in this particular case, knowing that no two court cases are exactly the same?

And are you prepared to force your rep and senator to change relevant laws?

Just asking.

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The jail term handed out is not in line with the existing legal norms in the first place, unless it has more to do with the other charges than with libel. The criminal code already prescribes either 1 or 2 years. where law is stated in concreto, there is no room for judicial maneuvering.

SmartyPants:



Of course it is. What does section 375 of the Criminal Code Act of Nigeria say?

Maximum sentence is 2 years

Enlighten yourself before commenting in the public sphere.

This is where some of you lot tries to be clever by half, yet only exposes your "incomplete education" and thinking. Did you read the details of the judgement?

Justice Yusuf Halilu of a High Court sitting in Maitama, Abuja, on Monday, convicted Wala, who is the convener of Citizens Action to Take Back Nigeria (CATBAN) in 3 of the 4-count charges brought against him by the office of the Attorney General of the Federation (AGF).

Justice Halilu convicted him fo managing unlawful association, public incitement and defamation of character over social media posts against the chairman of the National Hajj Commission of Nigeria (NAHCON), Abdullahi Muhammed.

Try comprehending the above and if you fail at that.....

ELVISHOT:
Social media commentator, Ibrahim Garba Wala, has been sentenced to 12 years imprisonment over offences bordering on criminal defamation and public incitement.

Justice Yusuf Halilu of a High Court sitting in Maitama, Abuja, on Monday, convicted Wala, who is the convener of Citizens Action to Take Back Nigeria (CATBAN) in 3 of the 4-count charges brought against him by the office of the Attorney General of the Federation (AGF).

Justice Halilu convicted him fo managing unlawful association, public incitement and defamation of character over social media posts against the chairman of the National Hajj Commission of Nigeria (NAHCON), Abdullahi Muhammed.

The NAHCON boss had alleged that Wala used his Facebook page to incite the public against him and defame him and that of the commission.

The court agreed with the prosecution that Wala criminally defamed Muhammed after he alleged that the NAHCON boss “made N3 billion for himself” from the 2017 Hajj operations.

The judge said Wala wrote on his Facebook page that he has documents to prove the allegation, but failed to provide the document to prove his claims in court.


See more details below

Source:

http://www.thenaijafame.com.ng/2019/04/social-media-commentator-ibrahim-garba.html?m=1

To be convicted over hajj matter is a waste of conviction

SarkinYarki:
Ironically this same IG wala used this same Facebook page to malign GEJ while supporting Buhari in 2014 but as karma will have it the same APC now wants to jail him for 12 years for trying to expose them

expose them without evidence,
I'm not surprise, that is how your porn.star dilector always behaves, allegation without evidence.
even when the porn.star said thief atiku is from Cameroon without evidence, until we provide evidence to court which truly prove thief atiku is from Cameroon

mapet:


Yes, in a way he almost did.

What if someone had erroneously shot the accused for what they though was the true picture? What if the accused was fired, or suspended and his health was affected and he died. What will we say afterwards?

The courts dont do judgement based on assumption but on provable facts.. so you dont have a case

mapet:


This is where some of you lot tries to be clever by half, yet only exposes your "incomplete education" and thinking. Did you read the details of the judgement?



Try comprehending the above and if you fail at that.....

You are the one exposing yourself. My first comment was in response to a fellow who claimed that 12 years was suitable for libel. I replied to him that 12 years was extreme for libel. You then jumped into the matter and specifically claimed that no 12 years was not extreme for libel, and that "we" should all be aware of the seriousness of libel. I then showed you the law and proved that libel is a minor offence. Now you want to change tack? In the course of this thread all your comments specifically addressed libel and not any of the other charges.

Do you suffer from memory loss?

SmartyPants:


The jail term handed out is not in line with the existing legal norms in the first place, unless it has more to do with the other charges than with libel. The criminal code already prescribes either 1 or 2 years. where law is stated in concreto, there is no room for judicial maneuvering.

I'll be surprised if the Judge handed down a sentence outside that prescribed by law or allowed per the Judge's discretion. There are many parts, sections, and aspects to the Criminal Code - some rather convoluted; so please be circumspect in what you claim and propagate as being applicable to a trial Court and in this particular case.

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duwdu:


I'll be surprised if the Judge handed down a sentence outside that prescribed by law or allowed per the Judge's discretion. There are many parts, sections, and aspects to the Criminal Code - some rather convoluted; so please be circumspect in what you claim and propagate as being applicable to a trial Court and in this particular case.

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I think i did highlight the possibility that the sentence may be connected with the other charges preferred against the man. Given the manner in which the report was written, however, readers have been somewhat directed to infer that the sentence was a consequence of the particular charge of criminal defamation, and the discussion on this thread has therefore centered around this issue.

Also, there is nothing so convoluted about the provisions of the Criminal Code that would make it incomprehensible, and certainly not in respect of the provisions concerning defamation. It's quite explicit.

SmartyPants:


You are the one exposing yourself. My first comment was in response to a fellow who claimed that 12 years was suitable for libel. I replied to him that 12 years was extreme for libel. You then jumped into the matter and specifically claimed that no 12 years was not extreme for libel, and that "we" should all be aware of the seriousness of libel. I then showed you the law and proved that libel is a minor offence. Now you want to change tack? In the course of this thread all your comments specifically addressed libel and not any of the other charges.

Do you suffer from memory loss?

Absolutely not, especially when you obviously fail to understand contextual issues. Pray tell, does it make sense for you to conclude a 12year in isolation without looking at the context or the facts of the judgement of the case? What then was the basis of your "12 years for libel is extreme"?

In the course of my submission, I did mention libel because it is the reference point. I will not be cherry picking other grounds for suit when libel covers everything........

Just like I said, trying to be clever by half.

bigpicture001:


The courts dont do judgement based on assumption but on provable facts.. so you dont have a case

And who told you my explanation was what the court bases judgement upon? My simple submission is premised on the principle that you don't go malign people as you can't imagine the extent of the damage you can cause.

Is this simple enough for you?

mapet:


And who told you my explanation was what the court bases judgement upon? My simple submission is premised on the principle that you don't go malign people as you can't imagine the extent of the damage you can cause.

Is this simple enough for you?

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i can see you verbose and took pride in it..hence "is this simply enough for you". you are trying to make a point but failed to sell the point instead u cover up with silly excuses...I ask, are ur foolish reason y he court should hand him 12 years sentence...?..if no, then go watch ur cartoon cuz Nikeledeon is on

SarkinYarki:
Ironically this same IG wala used this same Facebook page to malign GEJ while supporting Buhari in 2014 but as karma will have it the same APC now wants to jail him for 12 years for trying to expose them

Really? Then i rejioce with him on this judgement.

tussmal:
Foolish GEJ allowdd this sail through for APC to take over power in 2015 now "smart selfish dictators" are taking advantage of the gullibles. LWKMO.

Zoooooooo

Very true.
Well,Gej was trying to be diplomatic, respect all and keep Nigeria united, but we now know you can do whatever you like with power and nothing will happen.
That is why i laugh when any southerner thinks they will smell power again. Northerners now know that a southerner can enter there and do anyhow, so they will never allow it.

Wiseandtrue:

GEJ is a hero and a father of modern democracy in Nigeria

Where is the modern democracy in Nigeria now?
We know better now. It is unfortunate we southerners mumued ourselves. I hope another opportunity comes.

12 or 7?

SmartyPants:


I think i did highlight the possibility that the sentence may be connected with the other charges preferred against the man. Given the manner in which the report was written, however, readers have been somewhat directed to infer that the sentence was a consequence of the particular charge of criminal defamation, and the discussion on this thread has therefore centered around this issue.

Also, there is nothing so convoluted about the provisions of the Criminal Code that would make it incomprehensible, and certainly not in respect of the provisions concerning defamation. It's quite explicit.

Still, you should be circumspect in your postulations and conclusions because a Judge is not a robot and does not have to conform to what you think you know or he ought to have done.

As a last resort, I would say we members of the public do not have all the facts of the case as seen by the Judge. We should therefore not be too eager to judge the actions of a Judge on social media or interpret a law for the Judge, otherwise we will be courting anarchy.

Fortunately for all, we are blessed with at least two levels of appeals courts. 'Nuff said.

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bigpicture001:
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i can see you verbose and took pride in it..hence "is this simply enough for you". you are trying to make a point but failed to sell the point instead u cover up with silly excuses...I ask, are ur foolish reason y he court should hand him 12 years sentence...?..if no, then go watch ur cartoon cuz Nikeledeon is on

Bleh!bleh!!bleh!!!