Deltagiant:


You need to understand when people make metaphorical statements. @Balkan was literally not talking of physical land grab but how Nde-Ukwuani must identify themselves, rightly or wrongly. Therefore, It was not about land grab because for example, the Nri (Nshi) people of Anambra would never lay claims to the land of Ogwanri(nshi)-Uku because an Nri priest founded the town. In the same manner the Nteje/Awka people in Anambra would not lay claims to Asaba land because their sons founded Asaba.

Western Igbos who fought against Biafra did so not because they didn’t believe they were Igbos. The officers said openly they were Igbos but had to do what they did on ideological reasons, whatever the excuse. Even at that, they were quite few officers, namely Fred Chijiuka, Cyril Iweze and Alabi Isama (Abdul Rahman) whose father was actually a Fulani-Ilorin man. He is paternally not an Igbo man.

On the other hand, proud western Igbos fought to defend their people (Biafra). Their numbers can not be complete without mentioning a few of them like Rear Admiral Anukwu who was the first Biafran Naval Chief of Staff (Boji-Boji Agbor), Col. Emma Nzefili (Ukwuani), Col. Phillip Trimnel (Aboh), Brigadier Gen. Conrad Nwawo (Onitsha Ugbo), Col. Okwechime (Igbuzor), Brig. Gen Joseph Achuzia (Asaba), Col. Igboba (Igbuzor), Bernard Odogwu, Chief of Biafran Intelligence (Asaba) etc..

That being the case, there were also a few eastern Igbos who helped Nigeria to frustrate Biafra, Ukpabi Asika, C.C Mojekwu , Ike Nwachukwu etc.

Above all these, your ethnic tie is whom you are and that was what inspired the noble men to fight for Biafra. It is only a bast..ard that points to his father’s compound with his left hand. And as such may require “incentives” to identify with members of his own family. At the end of the day, it is the mother South-East region that is always at the receiving end of the stick as regards who accepts or denies being Igbo east or west of the Niger.

This is so because the Yoruba, Hausas, Isoko, Urhobo, Ibibio, Efik, Ijaw and the rest of Nigeria would never accept that an Awka man and Ukwuani are two different ethnic groups. They have always insisted that the two must not have two political shares but one in Nigeria. They reiterated this belief when Peter Odili wanted to usurpe what they thought was their own turn in the south south. Hence the emergence of GEJ. Nuff said.

Balkan:
you must be a kid any well, no need joining issues with you ukwuani and ndokwa people are insignificant. I don't care about them as a people. All I am interested is that land they are occupying it does not belong to them. It's Igbo territory by default.

PhenomenonVFX:


U are an unrepentant recalcitrant nitwit. For the same reason u guys were chased out of Port Harcourt in the civil war and u couldn't even get ur own properties back. What makes u think u can take Ukwuani land. I bet u are also planning to take Ogwashi-uku and ika land too because all over these places people claim they are not Igbo. Get ready to take the whole of Delta state then. But trust me that hand u stretch will surely get cut.
U guys never learn. I keep saying it. You need to learn diplomacy and not dumb war rhetoric. It was what cost u the civil war. And it will cost u more this time.
Someone reading this thread now may turn out to be a leader in Anioma tomorrow and have to take sides but this thread will only remind him of the greed of Igbos and he will probably side against u in the best interest of his people. Remember many Anioma sons fought on the side of Biafra and even many more fought against it. The history is there. U can't threaten people into acknowledging their ties with u. U can only provide incentives that will persuade them to join u.
Seek wisdom. If at this ur age ur best strategy is that of a caveman then maybe u should not be speaking on the behalf of Igbos. U are embarrassing ur people and adding to the ever growing number of antagonists u have.

dasparrow:


@Bolded

I have a question and this is just out of pure curiosity so don't bite my head off. Why would you pick a wife who hails from an insignificant group of people that you don't care about? Isn't that hypocritical or maybe weird? Birds of the same feathers flock together so if you decided to marry from a group of people that you don't care about or find significant, then I am not sorry to say that something is perhaps wrong with you. Intelligent people marry spouses from tribes/ethnicities that they are pretty fond of and not tribes/ethnicities that they despise. I'm just saying. By the way, is your wife and her biological family aware of your true feelings about her people the Ukwuanis?

Whew! Talk about sleeping with the enemy.

Balkan:
I never new all these before. I thought they are Igbos. So when we were about to settle the brideprice, we had some little disagreement, my father told them to let the matter rest, that we are all Igbos. They blatantly told us there and then that they are not Igbos, that they are ukwuani people. To me it was a shock because my wife's name is Ifeoma and the dad's name onyeukwu ifeme. I love my wife so much and my kids. My father inlaw told me they emigrated from somewhere in Bini. He calls me Igbo man. The normal Igbo cola, they call it ukwuani cola.

I wanted my children to pure and un diluted Igbo breed. That is why I am pained

relchange:


guy drop it and move on.
you are not going to solve your family issues on the pages of nairaland.
i wouldn't do that if i were you.

Balkan:
when I hit hard on these guys, you should know where I am coming from

Balkan:
you must be a kid any well, no need joining issues with you ukwuani and ndokwa people are insignificant. I don't care about them as a people. All I am interested is that land they are occupying it does not belong to them. It's Igbo territory by default.

Chiwude:
You still reason like a child. If you have any problem with the Ndokwa identity crisis issue, simply solve it out of nairaland. You can start a non-governmental campaign on it. Or even write articles with fact to counter their claim - to prove to doubters why Igbo unity is key - while assure those amongst them who accept their Igbo identity that your aims are devoid of sentiments. Coming to a faceless forum as this to insult a good number of true Igbos from Ukwuani will make matters worst. Even the guys you argue with, how sure are you that they are'nt impostors claiming Ndokwa origin. Grow up man, cos your attitude smacks a sign of childishness. Igbos are not thugs by nature, you know. So stop displaying this thug lifestyle here. If you must counter the claims of your opponent, then use diplomacy and civility. If you can't, then quit the fight and allow someone else who can take up the mantle. But, if nobody is chanced to do so, then allow them exhibit their shallowness in the forum. Yet, one thing is certain, the truth will always prevail no matter how long it takes. It will prevail.

PhenomenonVFX:


Another dumb statement by another nitwit from the east.
What do u mean by pure Igbo?
Since u have ascribed to urself the title of pure Igbo, why are u so pained the impure Igbos are denying they are Igbo?
Why should they remain impure Igbo when they can be pure Aniocha or pure Ika or pure Oshimili or pure Ukwuani?
LMAO. Good luck with ur Biafra. It will forever remain a struggle for pure Igbo halfwits from the east. No one west of the Niger can take u Easterners seriously. Not with people like u as advocates.

pazienza:
What makes an Igbo man pure is not his location, it's his mindset. An Ogidi man from Anambra not proud of his Igbo heritage is a fake Igbo. But an Ndoki man from far away Akwa ibom who takes pride in,and reveres in his Igbo heritage is a pure Igbo man.

You can't decide whether you are Igbo or not, that already had been decided before you were born. But you can decide to be a pure Igbo man, or get stained by inferiority complex and identity crisis, and become rightly tagged a fake Igbo man. *grins*

PhenomenonVFX:


Another dumb statement by another nitwit from the east.
What do u mean by pure Igbo?
Since u have ascribed to urself the title of pure Igbo, why are u so pained the impure Igbos are denying they are Igbo?
Why should they remain impure Igbo when they can be pure Aniocha or pure Ika or pure Oshimili or pure Ukwuani?
LMAO. Good luck with ur Biafra. It will forever remain a struggle for pure Igbo halfwits from the east. No one west of the Niger can take u Easterners seriously. Not with people like u as advocates.

victor1464:
Ukwuani is d origin of igbo land..so any igboman who refuse to b called an ukwuani man is a fake ukwuani.adulterated ukwuani.ok..Im PROUDLY UKWUANI ORIGIN...igbos are too greedy.even d ikwerres,ika,ogba & ekpeyes r not proud of u;then y ar u claimin NDOKWA LAND AS YOURS?.WE NEVER HANDED OVER OUR LANDS TO U.stay off ndokwa land.go and solve ur family issues outside instead of creatin useless threads on facebook or nairaland dat will make matters worst.

victor1464:
Ukwuani is d origin of igbo land..so any igboman who refuse to b called an ukwuani man is a fake ukwuani.adulterated ukwuani.ok..Im PROUDLY UKWUANI ORIGIN...igbos are too greedy.even d ikwerres,ika,ogba & ekpeyes r not proud of u;then y ar u claimin NDOKWA LAND AS YOURS?.WE NEVER HANDED OVER OUR LANDS TO U.stay off ndokwa land.go and solve ur family issues outside instead of creatin useless threads on facebook or nairaland dat will make matters worst.

Balkan:
i get crossed when someone talks to me the way you did. I am no kid brother. Your advice makes sense to me but name calling is want I don't like.
Shalom

Chiwude:
Biko Nwannem, iwe ewela gi.

emmysoftyou:
this guy cant speak ukwuani language,imagine how it took him 3days or more to gv us the meanin of those words..
but to be sincere,the victors family re really edo pple only minus ukwuani pple which re igbos.
pls chris forget this edo boy na,why stressing yourself with dis edo boy
the ukwuani re not recognise in southsouth,not even nigeria except asaba nd mbuzor wel recognise and i love their igbo wise spirit in them,
so the ukwu{as-ss} and ani is irrevant to me,the ikwerre re even more popular than ukwu ani.
but there is question i want to ask this edo boy{victorlunak}
why is ikwerre language not the samething with ukwuani language since you guys re bini origin?
Abi una papa miss road
if yu ansa me clearly i wil buy yu a powa bike,then u wil be first man/boi to buy a powa bike in ukwu ani vilage..

i remain faithful to the entire igboland

emmysoftyou:
this guy cant speak ukwuani language,imagine how it took him 3days or more to gv us the meanin of those words..
but to be sincere,the victors family re really edo pple only minus ukwuani pple which re igbos.
pls chris forget this edo boy na,why stressing yourself with dis edo boy
the ukwuani re not recognise in southsouth,not even nigeria except asaba nd mbuzor wel recognise and i love their igbo wise spirit in them,
so the ukwu{as-ss} and ani is irrevant to me,the ikwerre re even more popular than ukwu ani.
but there is question i want to ask this edo boy{victorlunak}
why is ikwerre language not the samething with ukwuani language since you guys re bini origin?
Abi una papa miss road
if yu ansa me clearly i wil buy yu a powa bike,then u wil be first man/boi to buy a powa bike in ukwu ani vilage..

i remain faithful to the entire igboland

victor1464:
umu igbo brothers in d east i bring u greetins 4rm Ndokwa land!!...... Osan madu Ajeh-Ajeh!!ndiom otofe-otefe!!okei abbi-abbi,okolobie shew-shew!!nmgboto owesu-owesu!!ekene ejowo n osa unu!!ISHIEGWARI...yo!!HAHAHAHA4HAHAHAH i love u all...proudly Ndokwa nation!!proudly Ukwuani!one love my brothers

victor1464:
Stop talkin nonse @ emmysoft..ur people dont hav a correct history.infact d history of ur so called igbo started 4rm Ezechima who was 4rm bini kingdom.he went across d niger to form asaba,onithsa,and all other states in d eastern region.that is how ur tribe was formed.this tells u dat Ezechima formed igbo land..i hav found out 4rm all igbo history dat they always refer to this Slave(ezechima) as their Origin.so stop talkin nonse...igbo hav no history..where did u originate 4rm..IS ur history like dat of PANKU(chinese)??. Y do u deny ur root? Dis is real foolishness.
Ndokwa ethnicity was formed by d greate warrior of d bini empire & his brothers(egwuare 1440AD-1473AD)includin.it was most of his brothers dat moved across d niger to form d Ekpeye,ikwerre,ogba people..Any Igbo in all dis lands are just immigrant.There are about 1% igbo immigrants who r claiming to be ukwuani people 2day but they hav no strong root in ukwuani land as their ancetors r traced to igbo,there is also Igala root in ukwuani and they all claim 2b ukwuanis too. Its only d igbo imigrant in d land dat claims igbo origin and not d larger percentage of d people.we know d igbo immigrants ok.We r 100% UkWUANIS PEOPLE....im 4rm ukwuani origin(utagba clan-largest in ndokwa land).we have d history of ukwuani land in our hands)...Ishiegwari yo!! Y is to Igbo man/woman full of greed. may God help u Guys. MBENE!!

Balkan:
I never new all these before. I thought they are Igbos. So when we were about to settle the brideprice, we had some little disagreement, my father told them to let the matter rest, that we are all Igbos. They blatantly told us there and then that they are not Igbos, that they are ukwuani people. To me it was a shock because my wife's name is Ifeoma and the dad's name onyeukwu ifeme. I love my wife so much and my kids. My father inlaw told me they emigrated from somewhere in Bini. He calls me Igbo man. The normal Igbo cola, they call it ukwuani cola.

I wanted my children to pure and un diluted Igbo breed. That is why I am pained

christopher123:


Don't worry they are confused maybe the saboteur they did during the war is painting and hurting them ..they will live with it. Now the question us how do your wife see herself ...we are same with them they might not be okay with Igbo tag they have a name for all of us called mid onu nuo.. the ones that say nuo (welcome) so don't be worried

I also married there and there is no problem with there

Imo man call anambra man ijekebe
Anambra call Ebonyi abakaliki wawa
Owerri to port call strangers isoma
Ngwa call others ohuhu

So don't worry all is a funny way of us behaving in one Igbo family

I have seen where some siblings change their surnames due to one religion indoctrination but that doesn't mean that they are not bona FIDE members if the family

Train your child in our culture

My daughter speaks a mixture if Nnewi and ukwuani and its funny

So let it be

Just one we are

Trying to differentiate a leopard and cheetaah will be a hard thing to do

drnoel:


Spoken with sense and wisdom unlike all those children arguing above u.