DanXplore:


The bolded was to buttress his greatness in that context.

In statistics, consistency is being defined when an outcome occurs severally. Ronaldo, like Messi, has won Bd'or severally making them far better than the rest above and so the arguement shoud be between Messi and CR7.

"Pity votes" is the singular line of defence most Messi-Antagonists use against him. Are you saying Ronaldo has not been a beneficiary of "pity votes"? What was so outstanding about CR7 last season that made him to be nominated alongside VVD and Leo for Ballon d'or and Fifa men's respectively?

He broke another record in his new team, he won nationals league

Jokerman:


Ogbeni...

Pele's player of the century award is bigger than 100 ballondors

Pele a three time World Cup winner

Pele 1260 goals to his name

People like saying rubbish, is there any trophy bigger than WC, those guy only conquered European football not world, when you don win the most prestigious of the trophy you can't be called goat.
God bless you my brother , children watch the gane this days

DanXplore:


Lol in what universe is player of the century better than as many ballon d'or? Remember that Pelle played in the era where football was less sophisticated unlike Messi.

Also, I think it is more ideal to consider a player's individual performance than collective. No matter how good a player is, if you have very useless defenders who concede goals all the time, you will not go far in footbal and this could be illustrated well with the match Barca played against Liverpool in the most recent UEFA

Don't forget that Messi won gold for his country at the junior level and so presuming that he is not GOAT because he has not won a thing for his country is out of place. Also, Messi has taken his country to world cup finals atleast twice or even more. All the key playmakings and goals where made by him. What more do you want from Messi? Should Messi attack, midfield, defend and keep goals simultaneously?

Messi can't keep the ball pele kicked,

DanXplore:


Lol in what universe is player of the century better than as many ballon d'or? Remember that Pelle played in the era where football was less sophisticated unlike Messi.

Also, I think it is more ideal to consider a player's individual performance than collective. No matter how good a player is, if you have very useless defenders who concede goals all the time, you will not go far in footbal and this could be illustrated well with the match Barca played against Liverpool in the most recent UEFA

Don't forget that Messi won gold for his country at the junior level and so presuming that he is not GOAT because he has not won a thing for his country is out of place. Also, Messi has taken his country to world cup finals atleast twice or even more. All the key playmakings and goals where made by him. What more do you want from Messi? Should Messi attack, midfield, defend and keep goals simultaneously?

Messi won nothing for senior team, nothing

Jokerman:


Oga everyone knows Messi is great... Even in Messi best years, when he scored 91 calendars goals in a year (2nd highest ever), Pele was still selected as the best player of the century in 2013

No matter what you type or think

Pele
Maradona

Will always be ahead of any player

Please add R9

Jokerman:


Lol... Stop wasting your time bro... The same Messi was selected amongst football best ever team that same year.... ... Just accept Pele as the goat

I'm going to create a topic that shows why Pele is the football goat.. Others come 2nd even Maradona

Am here jare

Debaiz:


When they all score 90 goals in a year, they should come and talk.

When they score in 21consecutive games, against every team in the league, they should come and talk.

Until then, Messi is the GOAT

Those are individual performance not about winning trophy.

How many standing ovations did he get ,,,, R9 , R10 got it from rivals always

spiritedtete:
Messi Can't be GOAT no World cup no Nations cup...


And why is Pele overated...


This list is been compiled by an overzealous teenager who dislike History!

Just imagine player with no nations not to talk Wc,

DanXplore:
I think I agree with this and feel free to add players into the catergories.



Source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-footballers-and-legends-ranked-from-goat-to-overrated-20191011.amp.html

My own additions:

Legend: Okocha, Iniesta
Great: Drogba, Robinho
Good: Crespo, Gabriel Jesus
Underrated: Essien, Dybala, Marcelo
Overrated: Kanu Nwankwo, Luka Modric, Iwobi, Tony Kroos, Firmino

lol. no even room for almighty Sergio Ramos abi

Dis 4 players are greater than CR7...Patrick Viera, Pavel Nedved, Del Piero, Zidane nd d GOAT himself

Dis 5 players are greater than CR7...Patrick Viera, Pavel Nedved, Del Piero, Zidane nd d GOAT himself

All your claims to football punditry thrown into bin by asserting that Messi has taken Argentina to world cup finals more than twice.Please can you tell us those years or editions.Now you know a tree cant make a forest,why can't Messi the GOAT do everything by himself then .

DanXplore:


Lol in what universe is player of the century better than as many ballon d'or? Remember that Pelle played in the era where football was less sophisticated unlike Messi.

Also, I think it is more ideal to consider a player's individual performance than collective. No matter how good a player is, if you have very useless defenders who concede goals all the time, you will not go far in footbal and this could be illustrated well with the match Barca played against Liverpool in the most recent UEFA

Don't forget that Messi won gold for his country at the junior level and so presuming that he is not GOAT because he has not won a thing for his country is out of place. Also, Messi has taken his country to world cup finals atleast twice or even more. All the key playmakings and goals where made by him. What more do you want from Messi? Should Messi attack, midfield, defend and keep goals simultaneously?

Mateen1000:

And How Old are you Mr Man
You sounding as if you watched pele at his prime time
Pele’s career ended in before 1980
And Note If there are no offside rules in modern football, Messi and Ronaldo would have score more goals, Football rules are getting Complex Every year

boy there are no complexities in football rules nowadays, football has been redefined to favour goals yet ds guys have failed in d art of goalscoring. Pele didnt have a long career compared to this yet he made goalscoring his own

DanXplore:


I think Robinho was a fantastic but short-lived player.

Pato and Torres stayed in limelight much longer

How can you tag someone with no national honour as Goat if you ain't sick upstairs
Pele,maradona,Zidane,Cr7,Delima Ronaldo are of more value right now home and abroad.

The first player to score against all teams in La Liga in a single season is Ronaldo.Please use another yardstick .

Debaiz:


When they all score 90 goals in a year, they should come and talk.

When they score in 21consecutive games, against every team in the league, they should come and talk.

Until then, Messi is the GOAT

Those are individual performance not about winning trophy.

There was even no substitution until 1970 world cup.Morais of Portugal kicked Pele out of 1966 to stop 3 straight world cups and we all know what happpend in 1970 with pele running the show.Ask these kids if Messi can survive the Tackle of Claudio Gentile or that butcher of Bilbao who ensured Maradona's stay in Spain did not last more than two years as he was sure he will break Bilbao's stranglehold on the league championship.
Kids cos of internet fronting as football aficionado that didnt know office rule was officially introduced in 1923.Imagine saying Pele's has 500 offside goals,really laughable.

hopefulLandlord:
.
This is the most stupid nonsensical post I've read today

you think Messi would last a full match in those days when tackling from behind is legal? when something that's regarded to be red card worthy today would be seen as only a free kick at best in those days? when many top players barely earn enough to live a comfortable life to Messi that has personal staff for almost everything asides training, brushing and eating? are you comparing those days when opponents can simply break your leg and get away with it to now that Messi can jump over a Sergio Ramos tackle and still get Ramos sent off?

You're talking a lot of juvenile sheet bro

DanXplore:


If it is by good passes, Mesut Ozil would be a legend. I think Modric, like Kanu is loved more for his humility and so people will tend to put sentiment into their judgement in their favour.

Boss, that does not make them overrated na... Modric has paid his dues, and he is among the best of his generation.

WTF? Pele Overrated? someone smoked expired weed.

Messi has no national team success hence he belongs to dustbin in general football ranking. His greatest belongs only to Barcelona and stops at that. Maradona is greater but Pele is by far the greatest.

DanXplore:
I think I agree with this and feel free to add players into the catergories.



Source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-footballers-and-legends-ranked-from-goat-to-overrated-20191011.amp.html

My own additions:

Legend: Okocha, Iniesta
Great: Drogba, Robinho
Good: Crespo, Gabriel Jesus
Underrated: Essien, Dybala, Marcelo
Overrated: Kanu Nwankwo, Luka Modric, Iwobi, Tony Kroos, Firmino

How come Messi is a GOAT not Cristiano Ronaldo

Angelfrost:


Boss, that does not make them overrated na... Modric has paid his dues, and he is among the best of his generation.

Yes he has paid his dues. For me, giving him Bdr was an exaggeration of his prowess.

OgbeniDawodu:

How come Messi is a GOAT not Cristiano Ronaldo

Because Messi is by far a better player. Lol.

SolarMight:


Pato and Torres stayed in limelight much longer

Yes, but their individual abilities were not as great as that of Robinho. They were just good players

DanXplore:


Yes he has paid his dues. For me, giving him Bdr was an exaggeration of his prowess.

I knew the beef had a lot to do with that award...

History has been made, and firmly stamped... You guys, especially Ronaldo fanboys, should move on already.

GEEBITE:
The first player to score against all teams in La Liga in a single season is Ronaldo.Please use another yardstick .

Read again, this time slowly you will see a certain word called “consecutive” then look for a dictionary to get the meaning. You’d be alright las las.

GEEBITE:
All your claims to football punditry thrown into bin by asserting that Messi has taken Argentina to world cup finals more than twice.Please can you tell us those years or editions.Now you know a tree cant make a forest,why can't Messi the GOAT do everything by himself then .

That was a mistake on my part. I meant he has taken his country to different finals.

World cup - 2014
Copa America: 2007, 2015, 2016

princeade86:
lol. no even room for almighty Sergio Ramos abi

The list inexhaustive.

Jokerman:


Ogbeni...

Pele's player of the century award is bigger than 100 ballondors

Pele a three time World Cup winner

Pele 1260 goals to his name

And a champions League winner too??

m140:

How many standing ovations did he get ,,,, R9 , R10 got it from rivals always

Lol standing ovation is an achievement?


If that is what you care about, google Betis vs Barca game last season and read up. That was the latest standing ovation.

You people just come with nonsense and think you’re replying a kids who don’t watch ball.

Angelfrost:


I knew the beef had a lot to do with that award...

History has been made, and firmly stamped... You guys, especially Ronaldo fanboys, should move on already.

I won't lie, that award pained me very well. There was alot of speculation around that time he was given the award (over rating him) because they want someone new.

Even Modric felt the heat of the criticisms that followed after he was given the award. Same sentiment was used to give VVD Bdr simply because he "tried" as a defender when liverpool won UEFAC

m140:

Messi won nothing for senior team, nothing

Atleast he took them to finals atleast 3 times.