Generalyemi:




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mikezuruki:
From my question above, I really would want to know from political parties members here, do our political parties have ideologies of a state or the country should be governed?

What do they use as guide to enact laws and make policies?

America for example, I only read through their ideologies before being a supporter of the republican party. Not here.

From whatever divide you support, I would like to be cleared please. Thank you

Qadaffi2idiamin:
You need to learn...

Political parties are not institutions... They represent platforms for robbery.

The main institution here is your constitution which your president has great disregard and disdain for.

maxiuc:


No they don't

All they know is jumping from one political party to the other for their own selfish benefit

Hardly can you see a democrat decamping to the Republican in the US because the have different ideology

maximunimpact:
Ideologies are not necessarily a good thing, sometimes it lead to needless hardliners within a country. Its the strong Nazi party ideology by Adolf Hitler that led to WWII and the Holocaust. Its better political parties in Africa focus on winning elections and less of pushing for an ideology that could lead to a radical change.

It might shock you to know that many political parties that are founded on strong ideologies later metamorphosed into terrorist organizations, eg Hezbollah, Nazi Germany, Jamaat-ud-Dawa group (JUD) of Pakistan etc.

You should kindly note that not all ideologies turn out badly, but this is Africa, a continent forcing democracy on herself.

maximunimpact:
Ideologies are not necessarily a good thing, sometimes it lead to needless hardliners within a country. Its the strong Nazi party ideology by Adolf Hitler that led to WWII and the Holocaust. Its better political parties in Africa focus on winning elections and less of pushing for an ideology that could lead to a radical change.

It might shock you to know that many political parties that are founded on strong ideologies later metamorphosed into terrorist organizations, eg Hezbollah, Nazi Germany, Jamaat-ud-Dawa group (JUD) of Pakistan etc.

You should kindly note that not all ideologies turn out badly, but this is Africa, a continent forcing democracy on herself.

mikezuruki:
From my question above, I really would want to know from political parties members here, do our political parties have ideologies of a state or the country should be governed?

What do they use as guide to enact laws and make policies?

America for example, I only read through their ideologies before being a supporter of the republican party. Not here.

From whatever divide you support, I would like to be cleared please. Thank you

Yohh:
Do me I do u
Chance me I chance u
That's their idiologies

Mandesz:
to APC revenge PDP 16yrs of misrule, blame PDP for apc's lack of ideology and ensure PDP never come to power anymore is the party ideology

Ayoefa:


Which public? May be in your village. Not where I am.
I'm tired of lecturing people. So quick lecture. There's more money under pdp simply because oil was selling for much higher then under Buhari. When Buhari came in oil was selling for 28 dollars hence the economy went into recession. The country is slowly coming out of recession. Despite these serious shortfalls in oil income, this govt has and is investing money into projects that will make your easier for many years to come.
I know, you just want quick money to spend on frivolous current expenditures that will not have lasting impact on people's lives. Black man or woman with shortsighted mindset. Think of the long run not the instant satisfaction.

Mindfulness:


Kindly elaborate please. I am coming from a neutral place and would really like to know.

Mindfulness:


Ideologies can be destructive or constructive and different ideologies have been competing with one another for decades leading to wars. Liberalism became the dominant ideology of the entire western world and beyond it. Liberalism won over imperialism, fascism and later communism. Liberalism reinvented itself into what we now call neoliberalism. Today it faces a crisis and will have to reinvent itself again or will be replaced. However, it has proven to be the most successful set of ideas in human history until now. It has lifted millions from poverty, provided better healthcare, more education and in total more opportunities for individuals, businesses and entire nations. So even though ideologies can be dangerous, they are first and foremost a set of ideas on which economies and political systems are founded. A political party without ideals is useless as it has no direction.

Ayoefa:


When the Buhari govt came into power, there's was a oil glut which forced the price of crude oil down to 28 dollars per barrel. It cost about 25 dollars to make each barrel hence the govt was barley getting anything from its main source of income. This in turn lead to the recession which thr country is slowly coming out of now.
The current price of crude oil is around 65 dollars as of today. When compared to the best of times under OBJ and Jonathan when oil sold for as high as 150 dollars per barrel, you have to commend this govt for the fact that they have embarked on real capital expenditures such as rail systems, Niger bridge and other capital projects that thr previous govts fail to do even though they had the funds readily available.
In essence, yes money is not flowing like before, but I'll rather money not flow now as long as I know that projects that will make life easier in the future are under construction. These projects takes years to build and requires major capital investments.
I have said it before and I'll say it again. If oil should sell for anything above 100 dollars even a monkey can make the Nigerian economy look good simply because the economy is too reliant on prices of crude oil.
Diversification is what is needed but that also takes years and years to bear fruits. There6no quick answer which is what the average Nigerian is looking for.

Despite these serious shortfalls in oil income, this govt has and is investing money into projects that will make your easier for many years to come.

Mindfulness:


I know this. I know how Nigeria was deprived of her chance to be become a much more developed nation when oil price was high. I was more interested in what the government is doing now exactly because you wrote this



Now I see what you meant @red
I wish you would have been more precise in your last comment and this one as well. Saying the the government is investing long-term must be backed up with examples. I am not a supporter of any of the major parties but I would like the current government to present a more comprehensive plan based on solid macroeconomics. Though building bridges and roads improves the infrastructure and creates employment which in turn will raise people from poverty and boost the economy, poverty has been insignificantly reduced and unemployment is still high, which means not enough is done.

And these are the kinds of answers that irritate me about all Nigerian politicians:

"It is not that poverty has reduced considerably, no. I am saying that what has happened now is that we are dealing with the issue of poverty," said Vice-President Prof Yemi Osinbajo.

We all know what must be done but how are you going to do it? That's the question politicians must answer. And I agree with you government investment is one way of doing so but will hardly have any effect on the population at this pace.

maximunimpact:


For the most part we seem to agree on the complicated nature of ideologies [with regards to political parties], but in the tail end you made your point clear that A political party without ideals is useless, that is a very strong worded statement. But here is the thing: imagine the bitterness, anger, and cyber war going on between PDP & APC supporters in Nigeria, those are political parties without IDEALS or any difference apart from acronym (i might add), just what will happen if there is a hardline dividing both parties in terms of lifestyle, capitalism, socialism, facism or even communism, the results will be catastrophic because this is Africa. But for what its what, both parties tend to lean towards liberalism.

Ayoefa:


Well the truth that most politicians can't say and that most Nigerians don't want to hear is that in reality "NIGERIA IS A POOR COUNTRY ".

When you compare Nigeria's GDP to its population then you will clearly see that this country is POOR.
The poverty level is made worse by the fact that the little that should be used judiciously to make people's lives better often end up in the pockets of a few.

If you budge 1 billion for schools in a city and half of that end up in someone's pocket, how in hell do you expect to have a well educated society that will be able to compete with other students from around the world.
Nigeria is poor financially and it's made worse by corruption.
The city of New York alone has a budget of 89 billion dollars. Even though there will be some corruption and wastage but it is at a minimum whereas Nigeria budget is 8.9 trillion naira with maximum exposure to corruption.
Science and technology is the key but we are far from that.

Mindfulness:


Well, ideologies such as fascism will destroy any continent. We saw the destruction of Europe in the first half of the 20th century. Communism has proven to be inefficient though it has never been practiced in the way Marx intended it to. Liberalism includes capitalism though not always in its raw form and has proven to be the best most model so far though this is changing due to technological advancements, algorithms, climate change and the rise of social media platforms.

I disagree with you that a more ideological approach of the parties in Nigeria will lead to more bitterness and anger. I believe that it will provide a direction for the political parties and force them to think how the goals (which every party and citizen agree on) can be achieved. Everyone knows that Nigeria needs a better infrastructure, electricity, education and healthcare, more opportunities in terms of employment, security and less corruption but I am always irritated that the political class never has a profound answer to how this can be achieved. Moreover, I believe that a healthy democracy lives off controversy so as long as people care to partake in political discourse it is a good thing not a bad thing. Now the problem is that people tend to get overly emotional instead of being objective and sober in their discussions. But what do you expect from the average Jo when the political class is unable to have a more academic discourse based on facts rather than tribal, religious and emotional arguments? Could it then be that the discussion of different ideologies and macroeconomic theories could have an educative effect on the voter so that they can make an informed choice and force political parties to write programs that not only promise what will be done but how it will be achieved as well?

mikezuruki:
From my question above, I really would want to know from political parties members here, do our political parties have ideologies of a state or the country should be governed?

What do they use as guide to enact laws and make policies?

America for example, I only read through their ideologies before being a supporter of the republican party. Not here.

From whatever divide you support, I would like to be cleared please. Thank you