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Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 9:33am On Feb 09, 2012
ahmad755:

i need information i apply for germany visit visa. embassy reject my my visa and write reason that apply for family reunion because my wife from germany but i don't want apply for family reunion i want only visit i don't need family reunion i don't have any plan for living in germany so now what i do my wife also talk with one lawyer he said yes now not possible that you apply for visit its must that apply for family reunion any person have information is this true

Have you ever applied for a family reunion permit to join your wife before?
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by chyIK: 10:29am On Feb 09, 2012
thanks @ davedavy. i have done just that. i think i will simply apply to uk as am still on leave.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Snazir: 8:33pm On Apr 07, 2012
dear sir i have pakistani passport.i am reguler visitor from 1992, every year i visited france .i had multiple entry visit visa from 1992.i had two years multiple visa and also one year multiple entry visa.i have multiple UK and USA visit visa up till 2014.i am advocate in high court at lahore pakistan.13 march i applied visit visa france at islamabad but they refuse on ground.
they refuse my visa on following points:
1. you did not submit eveidence that u posses sufficient means of subsistence for the duration of the perpose visit or the means to return to the country of your origin or residence ,or to transit to a third country in to which your entry is ensured ,or that u are not in a position to legally such obtain means.
2. file not complete, missing hotel reservation.
plz reply what can i do now .what is procedure of appeal and give me adress of Commission for French Entry Visa Refusal Decision, can i again apply for visit visa with complete documents, can visa section in pakistan will review his decision?
plz send me adress of Appealent Court.
safdar nazir advocate mandi baha ud din pakistan.
send me ur email addres as wel...
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 9:12pm On Apr 07, 2012
S nazir: dear sir i have pakistani passport.i am reguler visitor from 1992, every year i visited france .i had multiple entry visit visa from 1992.i had two years multiple visa and also one year multiple entry visa.i have multiple UK and USA visit visa up till 2014.i am advocate in high court at lahore pakistan.13 march i applied visit visa france at islamabad but they refuse on ground.
they refuse my visa on following points:
[b]1. you did not submit eveidence that u posses sufficient means of subsistence for the duration of the perpose visit [/b]or the means to return to the country of your origin or residence ,or to transit to a third country in to which your entry is ensured ,or that u are not in a position to legally such obtain means.
2. file not complete, missing hotel reservation.
plz reply what can i do now .what is procedure of appeal and give me adress of Commission for French Entry Visa Refusal Decision, can i again apply for visit visa with complete documents, can visa section in pakistan will review his decision?
plz send me adress of Appealent Court.
safdar nazir advocate mandi baha ud din pakistan.
send me ur email addres as wel...

Hi S nazir,welcome to nairaland.You should only appeal if you believe that you merit the visa and should have been issued the visa.

1) What document(s) did you include to justify that you posses sufficient means of subsistence for the duration of the intended trip?
2) Concerning the hotel reservation,did you include anything pertaining to where you will stay during the trip?

The fact that you have multiple visas doesn't mean anything because the visa officer will still access your application based on the documents you submitted.You wont get a visa if you cant prove to the visa officer that you have enough fund for the trip and that you have a place to stay during your visit.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Snazir: 7:08pm On Apr 08, 2012
[so where should i appeal...? give me detailed address of appeal commissioner in France...
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by onyekakene(m): 11:39pm On Apr 11, 2012
I need help my Brother is invitin me to Germany for A month visit a (German Citizen)..He's sponsorin my trip both Health insurance & they also ask him to deposit 2000euro in case if i refuse to go back.. Plz i wnt to know if they'll still require any personal documents from me at d embassy.. & Also my chances with a virgin PP.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 9:22am On Apr 12, 2012
onyekakene: I need help my Brother is invitin me to Germany for A month visit a (German Citizen)..He's sponsorin my trip both Health insurance & they also ask him to deposit 2000euro in case if i refuse to go back.. Plz i wnt to know if they'll still require any personal documents from me at d embassy.. & Also my chances with a virgin PP.

Yes they will require personal documents from you,they need to know that you will be returning to Nigeria after your visit,you have to submit documents that you have strong ties to Nigeria.If you are unable to satisfy the visa officer that you will be returning to Nigeria,you will be refused.

Your brother is only guaranteeing your board, lodging, financial support etc,the onus is entirely on you to prove you will be returning to Nigeria.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by onyekakene(m): 12:20pm On Apr 12, 2012
Davedavy:

Yes they will require personal documents from you,they need to know that you will be returning to Nigeria after your visit,you have to submit documents that you have strong ties to Nigeria.If you are unable to satisfy the visa officer that you will be returning to Nigeria,you will be refused.

Your brother is only guaranteeing your board, lodging, financial support etc,the onus is entirely on you to prove you will be returning to Nigeria.
Accordin him that d embassy might not require any documents from me b/c he's backin me with his documents And d 2000euro they ask him to deposit in d bank in case if i overstay d visa,he'll be taken to court & also sieze d money. Plzz can u help me with d list of documents d embassy may require frm me,cus i wud'nt want to be refused. Im not into employment or own a company..
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 8:44pm On Apr 12, 2012
onyekakene:
Accordin him that d embassy might not require any documents from me b/c he's backin me with his documents And d 2000euro they ask him to deposit in d bank in case if i overstay d visa,he'll be taken to court & also sieze d money. Plzz can u help me with d list of documents d embassy may require frm me,cus i wud'nt want to be refused. Im not into employment or own a company..

Ask yourself this question;what do i have to lose if i decide not to come back to Nigeria? This is exactly what you need to prove to the visa officer.You can prove your ties to your country of origin by presenting supporting documents that can establish either your strong economic ties or strong social ties to your country.

Documents you can use to prove your economic ties include bank statement,employment letter,landed property etc while documents you can use to prove your social ties include; marriage certificate,certificate of birth of your children,letter from your university (if you are in a university in Nigeria),etc.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by naaman: 12:43am On May 11, 2012
I applied with my wife and kid for tourist visa to czech republic on 26th of april 2012. the embassy received the invitation from spa hotel for my wife treatment, and after we submitted all the supported documents it was refused yesterday and the reasons:
1-the information submitted regarding the justification for the purpose and condition of the intended stay was not reliable.
2-your intention to leave the territory of the member states before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.

option was given us to appeal or reapply.
please advise which the hotel confirmation is on 12th of june.
thanks in advance.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by naaman: 11:40am On May 12, 2012
naaman: I applied with my wife and kid for tourist visa to czech republic on 26th of april 2012. the embassy received the invitation from spa hotel for my wife treatment, and after we submitted all the supported documents it was refused yesterday and the reasons:
1-the information submitted regarding the justification for the purpose and condition of the intended stay was not reliable.
2-your intention to leave the territory of the member states before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.

option was given us to appeal or reapply.
please advise which the hotel confirmation is on 12th of june.
thanks in advance.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by dem76: 11:41am On May 12, 2012
S nazir: dear sir i have pakistani passport.i am reguler visitor from 1992, every year i visited france .i had multiple entry visit visa from 1992.i had two years multiple visa and also one year multiple entry visa.i have multiple UK and USA visit visa up till 2014.i am advocate in high court at lahore pakistan.13 march i applied visit visa france at islamabad but they refuse on ground.
they refuse my visa on following points:
1. you did not submit eveidence that u posses sufficient means of subsistence for the duration of the perpose visit or the means to return to the country of your origin or residence ,or to transit to a third country in to which your entry is ensured ,or that u are not in a position to legally such obtain means.
2. file not complete, missing hotel reservation.
plz reply what can i do now .what is procedure of appeal and give me adress of Commission for French Entry Visa Refusal Decision, can i again apply for visit visa with complete documents, can visa section in pakistan will review his decision?
plz send me adress of Appealent Court.
safdar nazir advocate mandi baha ud din pakistan.
send me ur email addres as wel...
Do you mean you have France Visit Visa of one/two year b4? I cant get u clearly
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by naaman: 1:13pm On May 13, 2012
any one can help me??
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by naaman: 9:54am On May 18, 2012
could anybody help me with some information?
i sent appeal letter to the embassy and yesterday they sent me email saying:
please be informed that we have re-evaluated your visa applications and decided to uphold the refusal decision.
What is that mean??
[quote author=naaman][/quote]
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by donpaulobig: 9:33am On Aug 02, 2012
i apply for a netherlands shengen visa on behalf of french embassy from vfs and i was denied the visa twice...the first time i apply was early october last year 2011..my first shengen visa rejection was understandable because i was not having a job and i rely on my elder brother finace who is the host and stay n the netherlands...my elder brother brought me his bank statement as a sponsor..i was denied d visa for three reasons..one of it is my financial support...i did not appeal it because i think the visa was denied bec i was not having a job...luckily for me i got a new job november last year as a project manager in company with good salary...this year after 6 months of working i decided to apply for a visitin visa to my elder brotther in the netherlands...my brother sent me an invitation letter,heath insurance,ticket reservation etc to visit him for a month...on my part this time i provided my employment letter,approved leave of abscence,introdution letter,bank statement updated recently,three months pay slip..i was having enough money in my account because iam well paid.this time i was shock that my visa was denied with the same reason i got denied last year octber 2011 when i was not having a job....nairaland,is it that once u were denied a visa before,then anytime u apply again u will still get the same rejection...here are the reasons for the rejection even though i have money in my account as follows..1 you hv not provided proof of sufficient means of subsitence,for the duration of the intended stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence,or for the transit to a third country into which you are certain to be admitted,or u are not in a
position to acquire it lawfully 2 the information submitd regarding the justification for the purpose and conditons of the intended stay was not reliable 3 your intention to leave the teritory of member state before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.. a column was there to appeal it...the host my elder brother has appeal it over there in the netherland by sending the apeal letter to them in france...nairaland,pls help me on this...is there any hope of unturning their previous decision on my favour...so that i get the visa and visit my brother.sometime i wonder if they even check my document before rejecting me the visa the 2nd time bec my document was too perfect for rejection.also is it that once ur visa is denied the first time,then anytime u reapply even though ur condition has changed,the embassy continue rejecting ur visa with d same reason..how true is it bec this what happen to me..i need reply on this and advise
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by xtremious(m): 11:18pm On Aug 03, 2012
donpaulobig: i apply for a netherlands shengen visa on behalf of french embassy from vfs and i was denied the visa twice...the first time i apply was early october last year 2011..my first shengen visa rejection was understandable because i was not having a job and i rely on my elder brother finace who is the host and stay n the netherlands...my elder brother brought me his bank statement as a sponsor..i was denied d visa for three reasons..one of it is my financial support...i did not appeal it because i think the visa was denied bec i was not having a job...luckily for me i got a new job november last year as a project manager in company with good salary...this year after 6 months of working i decided to apply for a visitin visa to my elder brotther in the netherlands...my brother sent me an invitation letter,heath insurance,ticket reservation etc to visit him for a month...on my part this time i provided my employment letter,approved leave of abscence,introdution letter,bank statement updated recently,three months pay slip..i was having enough money in my account because iam well paid.this time i was shock that my visa was denied with the same reason i got denied last year octber 2011 when i was not having a job....nairaland,is[b] it that once u were denied a visa before,then anytime u apply again u will still get the same rejection..[/b].here are the reasons for the rejection even though i have money in my account as follows..1 you hv not provided proof of sufficient means of subsitence,for the duration of the intended stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence,or for the transit to a third country into which you are certain to be admitted,or u are not in a
position to acquire it lawfully 2 the information submitd regarding the justification for the purpose and conditons of the intended stay was not reliable 3 your intention to leave the teritory of member state before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.. a column was there to appeal it...the host my elder brother has appeal it over there in the netherland by sending the apeal letter to them in france...nairaland,pls help me on this...is there any hope of unturning their previous decision on my favour...so that i get the visa and visit my brother.sometime i wonder if they even check my document before rejecting me the visa the 2nd time bec my document was too perfect for rejection.also is it that once ur visa is denied the first time,then anytime u reapply even though ur condition has changed,the embassy continue rejecting ur visa with d same reason..how true is it bec this what happen to me..i need reply on this and advise

No,each time you apply for a visa,your application will be re-evaluated to determine if you merit the visa except if the applicant's name is on shengen information black list, that is the only situation whereby the applicant can be denied by the visa officer without considering the submitted documents.

From what you wrote above,you merit the visa this time around,your circumstances have changed,you have a job to return to and you also have adequate funding for the duration of your stay.Appealing the decision is a step in the right direction.By the way,are you married?though not very important but if you are married,that will further strengthen your ties to your country of origin.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by donpaulobig: 7:15am On Aug 05, 2012
thank you for your reply..yes iam maried with two kids...the host my elder brother indicate it on the appeal letter...after he sent the letter to them in france,they ask him to write it in french language which he did...is that how they do it..they have reply him that he will get their decission within d next 2 months..is about a month now iam still waiting..thank you very much for ur advice..this site is the best site i have ever seen...reply

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Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by sissi: 2:35pm On Aug 27, 2012
Hi There, few days ago I got a refusal for the same reasons the last memeber is presenting. Can anybody explain to me what is needed to make this file complete. my mistake is that i didnt include the proof confimation of the payment for my month course, since it was mentioned in the invitation that i'm staying for a month in paris. I'm struggling to understand these two reasons since they dont provide any demonstration. My second question is reapplying for a france visa can be only done like 2 months later ad i dont want to lose my time. Can I apply for a spain visa right away without waiting for two months or I have to since it's a shengen visa as well. But first I would like it if you explain guys to me what do they mean exactly by these two reasons!
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by sissi: 2:39pm On Aug 27, 2012
1) you have not provided proof of sufficient means of substinence, for the duration of the intented stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence, or for the transit to a third country into which you are certain to be admitted, or you are not in a position to acquire such means lawfully.

2) your intention to leave the territory of the member states before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.

These are the 2 reasons I mentioned in my previous comment ....Can anybody explain what do they need exactly?
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by sissi: 2:48pm On Aug 27, 2012
Please guys I badly need your help ASAP, I'm running out of time and have to catch up my courses!
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Nobody: 8:00pm On Aug 28, 2012
I doubt there is any regulation on waiting 2 months before reapplying for the visa. Go ahead and reapply

I would suggest you provide the payment confirmation, and possibly let the convener of the course write to the embassy directly.

and cocerning your ties to return to Nigeria - did you provide proof of employment and other required documents on the website
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Manthan: 2:37pm On Sep 03, 2012
Dear friends, Please help me.

I have applied for the France visa as a short stay, it got refused, The reason state behind this as per them they say:- 1) Justifaction for the Purpose and conditions of the intended of stay was not provided.
2) the information submitted regarding the justification for the purpose and consitions of the intended stay was not reliable.

Can you please please Guide me what do I need to do now, as I was travelling there as a training purpose.
As on the refusal letter, on the bottom they have mention to Appeal against the decision, or do you think is better to submit again fresh new application.
Please help me out.
As I have google about the appeal procedure, as it is not clear..and also I don't know how can I appeal and what document I have to provide then for the appeal.
I am completely blank, very confused what to do.
Help me out,
Many thnx in advance.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Manthan: 8:12pm On Sep 04, 2012
Dear friends, Please help me.

I have applied for the France visa as a short stay, it got refused, The reason state behind this as per them they say:- 1) Justifaction for the Purpose and conditions of the intended of stay was not provided.
2) the information submitted regarding the justification for the purpose and consitions of the intended stay was not reliable.

Can you please please Guide me what do I need to do now, as I was travelling there as a training purpose.
As on the refusal letter, on the bottom they have mention to Appeal against the decision, or do you think is better to submit again fresh new application. 
Please help me out.
As I have google about the appeal procedure, as it is not clear..and also I don't know how can I appeal and what document I have to provide then for the appeal.
I am completely blank, very confused what to do.
Help me out, 
Many thnx in advance.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 8:56pm On Sep 04, 2012
sissi :
Hi There, few days ago I got a refusal for the same reasons the last memeber is presenting. Can anybody explain to me what is needed to make this file complete. my mistake is that i didnt include the proof confimation of the payment for my month course, since it was mentioned in the invitation that i'm staying for a month in paris. I'm struggling to understand these two reasons since they dont provide any demonstration. My second question is reapplying for a france visa can be only done like 2 months later ad i dont want to lose my time. [b]Can I apply for a spain visa right away without waiting for two months [/b]or I have to since it's a shengen visa as well. But first I would like it if you explain guys to me what do they mean exactly by these two reasons!

1) You out to have included the proof of payment for the course you are going for,you should always back up your application with all the necessary paperwork.The onus is on you to do that.
2) What are you going to do in Spain?this might seem as desperation on your path,i will advice you to wait it out and reapply for the French visa,if all your docs are intact,you will be issued the visa.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 9:03pm On Sep 04, 2012
Manthan: Dear friends, Please help me.

I have applied for the France visa as a short stay, it got refused, The reason state behind this as per them they say:- 1) Justifaction for the Purpose and conditions of the intended of stay was not provided.
2) the information submitted regarding the justification for the purpose and consitions of the intended stay was not reliable.

Can you please please Guide me what do I need to do now, as I was travelling there as a training purpose.
As on the refusal letter, on the bottom they have mention to Appeal against the decision, or do you think is better to submit again fresh new application. 
Please help me out.
As I have google about the appeal procedure, as it is not clear..and also I don't know how can I appeal and what document I have to provide then for the appeal.
I am completely blank, very confused what to do.
Help me out, 
Many thnx in advance.

How is the training you are going for relevant to your present occupation/course of study ?.Why are you going for the training in France and not elsewhere?is this type of training not available in your country?Who is sponsoring the training,you?If you,why do you want to commit such enormous amount of money to the training?How recognized are the organizers?
These are some of the questions you need to ask yourself before filing an appeal,if you are sure the answers to the questions i asked above are positive,then you can file your appeal.

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Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 9:12pm On Sep 04, 2012
sissi :
1) you have not provided proof of sufficient means of substinence, for the duration of the intented stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence, or for the transit to a third country into which you are certain to be admitted, or you are not in a position to acquire such means lawfully.

2) your intention to leave the territory of the member states before the expiry of the visa could not be ascertained.

These are the 2 reasons I mentioned in my previous comment ....Can anybody explain what do they need exactly?

1) They need a proof that you have paid for the course you are going for,they also need proof that you have enough money to take care of your accommodation and living expenses in France.You ought to provide them proof of accommodation paid for in France for the duration of your course as well as your bank account showing that you have access to enough money for your living expenses.

2) They are interested in knowing that you will not abscond once issued the visa,hence you need to proof to them that you will return back to Nigeria,probably back to your well paid job or successful business.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Manthan: 8:17am On Sep 05, 2012
[quote author=Davedavy]

How is the training you are going for relevant to your present occupation/course of study ?.Why are you going for the training in France and not elsewhere?is this type of training not available in your country?Who is sponsoring the training,you?If you,why do you want to commit such enormous amount of money to the training?How recognized are the organizers?
These are some of the questions you need to ask yourself before filing an appeal,if you are sure the answers to the questions i asked above are positive,then you can file your appeal.

Firstly I would like to say you thank you so much, for your quick replay.

Let me start, I just join a company which is in hong-kong.
As well it is registered and every thing it's legal.

My company wants to me to be in France with my colleague for a training, where my colleague travel in different European countries on time to time.
As a training our company supply tailor made suit, person to person...like diplomats, embassy, business man..and many. so now my company wants me to be with my colleague, when he is dealing with the clients as a training.
So as I want to know that, if our company ask one of our clients to send a invitation for me will be that enough, to send these letter for appeal.
Also for the appeal can you please let me know how should I please an appeal, because they have just give their fax number...don't know how it works these appeal.
Or I should start fresh new application for these process( according to your experience) please help me out.
I am very confused..now

One again thank you, and helping every one.
God bless you.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Davedavy: 7:12pm On Sep 05, 2012
[quote author=Manthan][/quote]

In that case,i think you should appeal.If everything you stated above is true,you have a very good chance of winning the appeal.You can write the appeal letter yourself,there is no specific way to write it,address it to the right authority (details should be given to you by the French embassy).Explain to them in the appeal letter how important the training you are going for is to you as well as your organization,as you have stated above,you have your client base in Europe and you need to meet them from time to time due to the nature of your line of business,and as a newcomer,let them know you have to understudy your senior colleague and that is the reason you want to travel with him.You can also let them know how long your company has been in business,how much you earn,if you are married,or have kids let them know that as well,if you have any landed property,real estate to your name,let them know that also,this will further support your claim that you have close ties to your country.

All in all,it's not rocket science,just tell them the truth and support it with all the relevant documents you can lay your hands on,if your customers in Europe can write you a recommendation letter or invitation letter,it will also help.

Wishing you all the best.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Manthan: 8:32pm On Sep 06, 2012
Davedavy:

In that case,i think you should appeal.If everything you stated above is true,you have a very good chance of winning the appeal.You can write the appeal letter yourself,there is no specific way to write it,address it to the right authority (details should be given to you by the French embassy).Explain to them in the appeal letter how important the training you are going for is to you as well as your organization,as you have stated above,you have your client base in Europe and you need to meet them from time to time due to the nature of your line of business,and as a newcomer,let them know you have to understudy your senior colleague and that is the reason you want to travel with him.You can also let them know how long your company has been in business,how much you earn,if you are married,or have kids let them know that as well,if you have any landed property,real estate to your name,let them know that also,this will further support your claim that you have close ties to your country.

All in all,it's not rocket science,just tell them the truth and support it with all the relevant documents you can lay your hands on,if your customers in Europe can write you a recommendation letter or invitation letter,it will also help.

Wishing you all the best.


Thank you so so much, these will really help me...!!
You are really great...!!
If any thing I will get back to you.
Re: Appeal Or Reapply For France Schengen Visa by Ikem44(m): 9:41am On Sep 07, 2012
@Davedavy,pls ,i would like to chat with you on messenger conerning NDLEA...Add me on chykee4me@yahoo.com

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