Juliusmalema:
The Edo people feared that their country would fall into chaos, so they asked their neighbour, the King of Ife, for help. The king sent his son Prince Oranmiyan to restore peace to the Edo kingdom.
Oranmiyan chose his son Eweka to be the first Oba of Benin. Eweka was the first in a long line of Obas, who reached the peak of their power in the 1500s.

So Yorubas are the ones ruling Bini to this day.

Noted.

MinorityOpinion:
The kingdom of Benin began in the 900s when the Edo people settled in the rainforests of West Africa. By the 1400s they had created a wealthy kingdom with a powerful ruler, known as the Oba. The Obas lived in beautiful palaces decorated with shining brass.

Gradually, the Obas won more land and built up an empire. They also started trading with merchants from Europe.

For 200 years Benin was very successful, but in the 1600s the Obas started to lose control of their people. By the 1800s Benin was no longer strong or united. The kingdom came to a sudden end in 1897, when a British army invaded and made it part of the British Empire.

How did the kingdom begin?

Around the year 900 groups of Edo people began to cut down trees and make clearings in the rainforest. At first they lived in small family groups, but gradually these groups developed into a kingdom.

The kingdom was called Igodomigodo. It was ruled by a series of kings, known as Ogisos, which means ‘rulers of the sky’.

In the 1100s there were struggles for power and the Ogisos lost control of their kingdom.

The Edo people feared that their country would fall into chaos, so they asked their neighbour, the King of Ife, for help. The king sent his son Prince Oranmiyan to restore peace to the Edo kingdom.

Oranmiyan chose his son Eweka to be the first Oba of Benin. Eweka was the first in a long line of Obas, who reached the peak of their power in the 1500s.

gregyboy:



There was never oromiyan stop that trash myth



See another benin greatness

Togo national university is name after benin empire

MinorityOpinion:
Source:https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zpvckqt/articles/z3n7mp3

MinorityOpinion:


This hold little to no significance to the topic. Kindly revisit.

MinorityOpinion:
Source:https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zpvckqt/articles/z3n7mp3

Juliusmalema:
The Edo people feared that their country would fall into chaos, so they asked their neighbour, the King of Ife, for help. The king sent his son Prince Oranmiyan to restore peace to the Edo kingdom.
Oranmiyan chose his son Eweka to be the first Oba of Benin. Eweka was the first in a long line of Obas, who reached the peak of their power in the 1500s.

So Yorubas are the ones ruling Bini to this day.

Noted.

gregyboy:



There was never oromiyan that brass is not oromiyan ife never used calvary


That artwork was probably representing a nupe man or igalw or even fulanis


The Fulanis at one time attacked edo north, and edo central which the benin military succeeded in chasing them out,
After a war benin depict thier enemies warrior for historical purpose.......


Please stop posting history because you read so

Benin-ife connection was made up....

Ghostwon5:
If a 5 year old quotes BBC Bitesize, I will not blame him or her, but to see a fully grown adult quoting BBC Bitesize is rather strange. Ethnocentrism has eaten the brains of the Yoruba.

MinorityOpinion:


BBC is an verified website. You can't just disapproved the article because its meant for children. I've read many other source that the story are the same with what's in the article. For your information. I'm not yoruba

Ghostwon5:


That is Yoruba myth.
A made up story to give Yoruba a sense of self-esteem by claiming a greater people's history.
The desperation with which you guys defend this baseless myth only shows how much you need to run Benin's glorious past on Yoruba lack of history.

Yoruba are a non homogeneous people. Some of you descend from freed slaves deported from the American continent while some of you are from Dahomey, others from oyo and Ijebu.

You have no history.

Also:


1) oranmiyan is a myth, he never existed.
2) oduduwa is a myth, he never existed
3) the ogiso are myths, they never existed.
4) the first record of Oba was a reference to the Oba of Benin in the middle ages.
5) as can be seen in early colonial pictures, the Yoruba used to call their chiefs in this manner:

"ooni of ife, sir adetoye".

Notice the word "sir" is also not a Yoruba word.


Later on in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba". Replacing a non Yoruba word with an other non Yoruba word but which is more African (since independence was in discussion).

6) the word Oba belongs to the Oba of Benin, Omo n'Oba n'Edo. The Yoruba copied it. Fact. Just like Benin republic copied the word "Benin" from Benin Kingdom.

Yeah Benin gets copied a lot, deal with it !

7) as can be seen in some early colonial or late precolonial pictures, the Yoruba didn't use the word Oba to describe any of their chiefs until the mid colonial era.

gregyboy:
I would you call that artwork oromiyan did you even reason if yorubas by chance make use of calvary......

O. P is simply a Yoruba bigot.....

Ghostwon5:


Since quoting a children's program doesn't bother you, may I ask you what proof of the story is provided in any article whatsoever ?

Also, how did the story get to the narrators ?
The first written records of West Africa clearly show the empire of Benin being ruled by the Oba of Benin.
No eyewitness account talks about any oduduwa nor oranmiyan. There is even no precolonial account about oduduwa, oranmiyan, ogiso...the first mention of those is in the colonial period around the 1920's or 1930's.


So how did the story get to the narrator (This is an easier task than actually providing proof)
And as you will notice, it was told by someone, it wasn't witnessed by anyone.

Made up story !

This is why I don't blame 5 year olds for quoting such a story but I find it strange when fully grown adult do so and therefor show their lack of reasoning faculties.

MinorityOpinion:


This is simply pathetic. I have no time to discuss the rest because it will bring us back and forth.

Your no 6: Benin republic was named after a body of water on which the body lies called bight of Benin. Its just like saying Niger state because of river Niger.

MinorityOpinion:


I don't why you're all worked up about this. Read the history of Benin. I'm not even saying yoruba are superior to Benin. But i believe there was exchange of tradition between them before the arrival of the British. Thanks bro.

Ghostwon5:

Wow, so you can't see that your claim doesn't disprove mine ?
Where does the Bight of Benin take its name from ?

Answer: Benin empire !

So your claim is that Benin Republic named itself after a thing which was named after Benin empire. Well that doesn't go against my claim that Benin Republic was named after Benin empire.
The original owner of the name is still Benin empire.
In no way did I discus the reason Benin Republic copied our name. But you felt so unsecured when I shared the fact and had to try to minimize it.

Well, don't feel insecured. The success of Benin empire is not your downfall
It is only the success of Benin empire, it has nothing to do with you or your people. So stop having nightmares over it.

Ghostwon5:

The history of Benin is not to be confused with myths which you read online.
The history of Benin comes with proof.
Eyewitness records which is what I read and quote.
Your beliefs are your beliefs, not facts.
I prefer to discus facts, not beliefs.

MinorityOpinion:


I'm not yoruba but read about oyo calvary. Yoruba made use of calvary. Google is your friend. Come back and prove me wrong.

MinorityOpinion:


For future reference. Can you give me link or article that is verifiable of the real history of Benin. That would much help.

gregyboy:


Is it buy reading about it, what of it was made up


Lets imagine oyo had calvary

What about ife did you if ife had......


My friend not everything you see you post....

Oyo never calvary because it was written doesnt make it correct......
Unless you can prove it....
This days people are rewriting thier history to make it presentable, but we wont give them chances, history must not be altered

Ghostwon5:

You should be able to do your own research without falling into the traps of quoting myths and fairytales. You are an adult, are you not ?


When looking at a story, check if it was written by an eyewitness, anything else is doubtful at best.

Some of the best sources in my opinion are precolonial maps. Gallica has a bunch of them. There is also one other website which I posted in one of my comments so just take a look at my comments.

Also you have university and museum libraries which host Sims precolonial texts:

http://library.bu.edu/c.php?g=769130&p=5518125

MinorityOpinion:


This one is well documented. Oyo had horses. Which made them formidable in their conquest.

If oyo have horses, what would make ife not to have when they are almost the same yoruba.

Your comment is nothing but a silly assumption.

gregyboy:


Ok now lets go log head
I need a written document from 1800-1897 documenting the fact oyo used calvary or even if its not written atleast archeological findings....
Showing oyo used calvary

This days we talk with fact and not stories


If you cant provide it just forget the argument and accept oyo didnt use calvary

MinorityOpinion: