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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by seunmsg(m): 5:50am On Jun 02, 2020
bayelsaowei:
Why does tinubu want to be president in the first place? Are we not tired of old god fathers wanting to steer the country called Nigeria? Does nigeria have a future anymore?? Or are we just frozen in our political misfortunes.

This tinubu thing like play might come to actualization and then we are back to the same loop of regrets and after thoughts..


Because he’s a Nigerian who has the right to legitimately aspire to any elective office in the country. Atiku with a hefty baggage of corruption contested last year and was massively supported by a particular geopolitical zone even when his own geopolitical zone rejected him. That should tell you that Nigerians are sensible enough to decide for themselves. Tinubu will contest if he wants and Nigerians will decide whether they want him to be president or not.

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 5:59am On Jun 02, 2020
Tribes aren't floating any candidate sir.


If Tinubu should win APC Primaries, he will defeat the PDP.


SarkinYarki:
If Yorubas are serious the should float Osinbanjo ....Nobody will vote Tinubu outside the Osun and Lagos
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 6:10am On Jun 02, 2020
Bros if Tinubu wins APC ticket, he will win the presidential election.


The APC machinery is still well oiled in most States.

If you think APC is about to lose power to PDP after 8years, then you haven't fully learnt the politics of Nigeria.



Jakemedg:
Yes Tinubu may win south west but remember apart from Lagos the opposition PDP has strongholds and once a state government dissappoints its people ,the people votes for the opposition party。History has shown that

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 6:24am On Jun 02, 2020
What if the deputy is from the S/W or the S/South?


WeneDiali:


Stop overestimating your god, he lost several polling units in lagos including osibanjo's polling unit.

Moreover aside from all the odds stacked against tinubu based on him being a local yoruba political champion, a yoruba muslim cannot even be president with the current ethno-religious tension in this country.

If he picks a northern christian as VP, the northern muslims will protest and vote against him. If he picks a northern muslim as vp in a muslim-muslim ticket, he will get less than 5% vote in the SE/SS, NC and every yoruba christians will vote massively against him.

No one will be allowed to Islamize the country, even the north will see his practical failure before hand and pitch tent with their sons Atiku or Tambuwal who will have christian deputies from the East.

Devil and the deep blue sea. grin

Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by WeneDiali: 6:32am On Jun 02, 2020
oyatz:
What if the deputy is from the S/W or the S/South?



You can eat your cake and have it..
Like you people say to the Ibos, you can't reap where you did not sow. Take your own advice.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 6:49am On Jun 02, 2020
WeneDiali:


You can eat your cake and have it..
Like you people say to the Ibos, you can't reap where you did not sow. Take your own advice.

Democracy is a game of numbers;

1) Number of PVCs collected;

SW= 14 Millions, SE= 8 Millions

2) PDP votes in the 2019 elections;

SW= 1.6 Millions, S/East= 1.5 Millions.


Although Personally, I will like a candidate from the S/East to contest for the Presidency either on the platform of APC or PDP.

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by WeneDiali: 7:04am On Jun 02, 2020
oyatz:


Democracy is a game of numbers;

1) Number of PVCs collected;

SW= 14 Millions, SE= 8 Millions

2) PDP votes in the 2019 elections;

SW= 1.6 Millions, S/East= 1.5 Millions.


Although Personally, I will like a candidate from the S/East to contest for the Presidency either on the platform of APC or PDP.

You are talking of regional votes not tribal votes. The SE and SS are scattered all over Nigeria and also make up a good chunk of SW voters. That's why your politicians wear Isiagu and Igbo red caps on political posters when constesting in your land to appeal to Ibo and SS votes in the SW and the north. They are not fools.

Atiku also performed creditably well with Peter Obi as running mate. A SW deputy will destroy PDP and they know it. So it is a no-go area. PDP was the only party that ensured the SW has tasted presidency, yet you insult the party and have done everything to destroy it, so that you can make APC the sole party and take another turn at the presidency. PDP has tried for you and does not owe the SW anymore. So a SW VP is not feasible in PDP

But with the support of North, SE and SS, PDP has continue to survive. SW cannot reap where you did not sow (your own words to the SE and SS).

The only reason why you want the SE to contest as the prime candidate in PDP is because you believe it will be more realistic for yorubas in APC to win the presidency by avoiding a duel with the north. It's not because you are genuinely interested in an Eastern presidency. We know how you think.

You will have to pick your towel where you took your bath.

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by bayelsaowei(m): 7:14am On Jun 02, 2020
seunmsg:


Because he’s a Nigerian who has the right to legitimately aspire to any elective office in the country. Atiku with a hefty baggage of corruption contested last year and was massively supported by a particular geopolitical zone even when his own geopolitical zone rejected him. That should tell you that Nigerians are sensible enough to decide for themselves. Tinubu will contest if he wants and Nigerians will decide whether they want him to be president or not.
supporting atiku was also a crazy idea..like i said nigeria is stuck in a vicious cycle with no hope for the future...let the country keep voting old thieves..

Voting tinubu would mean voting the status quo...he has been part of the same system...
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by Magicians: 7:17am On Jun 02, 2020
Tinubu does not have a right to become Nigeria president but foolish people like Peter Obi n Atiku have such right ba according to foolish Igbos reasoning.
bayelsaowei:
Why does tinubu want to be president in the first place? Are we not tired of old god fathers wanting to steer the country called Nigeria? Does nigeria have a future anymore?? Or are we just frozen in our political misfortunes.

This tinubu thing like play might come to actualization and then we are back to the same loop of regrets and after thoughts..

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by Binikingdowm: 7:18am On Jun 02, 2020
We aren't voting for another Muslim as president.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by bayelsaowei(m): 7:19am On Jun 02, 2020
Magicians:
Tinubu does not have a right to become Nigeria president but foolish people like Peter Obi n Atiku have such right ba according to foolish Igbos reasoning.
he has the right just has nigeria has the right to keep being a mess..

Hope this answers your question...lets keep standing behind old thieves and continuously wallow in hopelessness
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 8:35am On Jun 02, 2020
Bros, which one is TRIBAL votes?

Must all members of a tribe vote for a particular party?

PDP won in Oyo and Ondo States, so which tribes voted for PDP in both States?

By the way, how do you determine the tribes of voters?

There are more Igbos in Kano and Kaduna States than Ondo State, why didn't they swing the pendulum of victory to the PDP sir?

There are more Igbos in Enugu and Abia States than Ondo &Oyo States.


PDP votes in the 2019 presidential election:

1) Abia State= 219,000, Ondo State= 275,000


2) Enugu State= 355,000, Oyo State= 366,000

Even if you don't tell yourselves the truth, the truth will still remain the truth.










. . .So kiss the truth

WeneDiali:


You are talking of regional votes not tribal votes. The SE and SS are scattered all over Nigeria and also make up a good chunk of SW voters. That's why your politicians wear Isiagu and Igbo red caps on political posters when constesting in your land to appeal to Ibo and SS votes in the SW and the north. They are not fools.

Atiku also performed creditably well with Peter Obi as running mate. A SW deputy will destroy PDP and they know it. So it is a no-go area. PDP was the only party that ensured the SW has tasted presidency, yet you insult the party and have done everything to destroy it, so that you can make APC the sole party and take another turn at the presidency. PDP has tried for you and does not owe the SW anymore. So a SW VP is not feasible in PDP

But with the support of North, SE and SS, PDP has continue to survive. SW cannot reap where you did not sow (your own words to the SE and SS).

You will have to pick your towel where you took your bath.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by redsun(m): 8:56am On Jun 02, 2020
Why do we always have to choose our leaders among prolific thieves? Does it mean there are no normal politicians in Nigeria that lead the country in the path of civility, credibility and accountability?
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by Kcwise199: 8:56am On Jun 02, 2020
Seems u guys don't understand the north. Those guys are not after party but candidate. if Apc picks a southerner and PDP pick a northerner, and u know those guys knows d game of divide and rule perfectly. All they'll do is to align with south East and gv them VP and south East will want to revenge south West in order to pay them with their own coin. The pain of GEJ's lost still dey their body. At the end, the north continues.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by MyMouth(m): 8:56am On Jun 02, 2020
Honestly, I can't tell, but am gonna vote for him, not because he is the best but because of his ability to bring onboard qualified people to work with him. Imagin if buhari had appointed people based on merit and not based on some ethnic or religious sentiments undecided
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by MyMouth(m): 9:07am On Jun 02, 2020
Kcwise199:
Seems u guys don't understand the north. Those guys are not after party but candidate. if Apc picks a southerner and PDP pick a northerner, and u know those guys knows d game of divide and rule perfectly. All they'll do is to align with south East and gv them VP and south East will want to revenge south West in order to pay them with their own coin. The pain of GEJ's lost still dey their body. At the end, the north continues.
Bros, it won't work again, north is nolonger one! A southern candidate has defected a northern candidate twice now, obasanjo did it, goodluck did it, the reason goodluck failed to win reelection was because we were all tired of the rubbish pdp was giving us and we thought buhari was the Messiah, now our eyes don open, Remember, people like tinubu has already build bridge across the south, I bet u Gamduje, from Kano, masari and some northern governors with very high delegates would deliver for tinubu and you know, the delegates from Lagos and other states in the west would deliver, and am very sure uzodima from imo go deliver too, with oshomole as party chairman, e go hard for another northern to collect apc ticket. And if u think the northern guys in apc would allow pdp to win dispite the massive corruption they have perpetuated under this government, then u don't understand politics.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by WeneDiali: 9:18am On Jun 02, 2020
oyatz:
Bros, which one is TRIBAL votes?

Must all members of a tribe vote for a particular party?

PDP won in Oyo and Ondo States, so which tribes voted for PDP in both States?

By the way, how do you determine the tribes of voters?

There are more Igbos in Kano and Kaduna States than Ondo State, why didn't they swing the pendulum of victory to the PDP sir?

There are more Igbos in Enugu and Abia States than Ondo &Oyo States.


PDP votes in the 2019 presidential election:

1) Abia State= 219,000, Ondo State= 275,000


2) Enugu State= 355,000, Oyo State= 366,000

Even if you don't tell yourselves the truth, the truth will still remain the truth.










. . .So kiss the truth


You are permitted to live in your utopian denial. Afterall yoruba have been ethno-psychologically diagnosed as chronic utopian idealists with very little taste for pragmatic realism.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by Kyase(m): 10:37am On Jun 02, 2020
kingzizzy:


Now you understand why Nigeria cannot work. Buhari is a terrible leader, but if the constitution was changed to allow him a third term, all those who voted for him in 2015 and 2019 will vote for him again in 2023 and ensure he wins. They know he wont do well, all they care about is being politically relevant.

People like Moghalu and Sowore have chance of ever becoming president, the North will never vote for them
wow the north is really powerful
see confirmation
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 1:39pm On Jun 02, 2020
Eeyah, see what frustrations can cause naw!




WeneDiali:


You are permitted to live in your utopian denial. Afterall yoruba have been ethno-psychologically diagnosed as chronic utopian idealists with very little taste for pragmatic realism.

Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by oyatz(m): 1:52pm On Jun 02, 2020
Park well Bros, political parties account for 70% of the factors needed to win a Presidential election. . . it's the parties that contest and win elections.

1) On the ballot paper, you don't see names of candidates but names &logos of political parties.


2) Just name one instance where the political party that win the highest numbers of State Governorship and Senatorial seats fail to win the presidential election in an election year.

Politicians go to the polls to secure a mandate for their parties to rule.

3) If you think APC House of Reps, Senatorial and Governorship candidates in the 'North' will be working for their Presidential candidate to be defeated so that their opponent in the PDP can come to power , then you don't know how party Politics work



Kcwise199:
Seems u guys don't understand the north. Those guys are not after party but candidate. if Apc picks a southerner and PDP pick a northerner, and u know those guys knows d game of divide and rule perfectly. All they'll do is to align with south East and gv them VP and south East will want to revenge south West in order to pay them with their own coin. The pain of GEJ's lost still dey their body. At the end, the north continues.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by Kinematics: 1:55pm On Jun 02, 2020
Kyase:

If that man dey contest no one is beating him.
fact of the matter is that only Buhari is more Popular than Tinubu in SW Nigeria, with Buhari out of the race in 2023 Tinubu can easily win the SW Presidency........


Fixed

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by slivertongue: 2:41pm On Jun 02, 2020
BabaOwen:
Election is not the way most of you sees it grin what stopped Buhari from defeating OBJ in 2003?

Buhari couldn't even defeat OBJ candidate, umaru musa yardua in 2007 grin

PMB couldn't even defeat GEJ in 2015 grin If it was not for the coalition, GEJ would have defeated buhari again in 2019.

As for me, except Buhari, no other politician can stop Tinubu.
If Tinubu contest in 2023, he will have nothing less than 3 million votes in Lagos alone, he will defeat the PDP candidate with a very wide margin in Lagos state. grin

The only region Tinubu will lose scandalously in the south is the south east. But APC now control one out of the five south eastern state sef.

In Nigeria, your party and your connection matters in you winning an executive or legislative election.

In 1999, the North produced OBJ and in 2003 they tactically encouraged Turaki to scare him. Turaki, TY and Gusau etc worked for the reelection of OBJ. OBJ later took his pound of flesh on Turaki preventing him from running on the party he co founded. Sensing the danger in fielding another Southerner OBJ withdrew support from Odilli and gave it to Yaradua. The Governors Forum seeing two of theirs running for the office of President and Vice threw their support behind the duo. At the demise of Yaradua, GEJ ran and won but lost in 2015 to GMB.
GMB's previous attempts came to nothing because the North was divided and he couldn't secure support up South. Same thing affected Turaki and Ribadu.
In 2011, the South were in one accord and also had the support of the North Central thus GEJ's victory. In 2015, the North were in one accord and also had Southern support thus GMB's victory. The crème of the North worked for GMB; Turaki, IBB, Abdulsalami, Gusau etc. GMB was seen in two fronts; To some he is their regional candidate and to others a religious leader. So everything was done for the North to gain power through him and it worked.

In 2019, dissenting voices emerged giving another Northerner the opportunity to test his popularity on a popular platform. These dissenting voices presented the most formidable politician alive and he gave a good account of his sojourn though he lost but now its clear that it was a dry run.
GMB has a mass following due mainly to his religious posturing, modest life style and his diehard pro Northern sentiments but he is NOT a politician and this account for his serial defeats. GMB couldn't win until politicians came to his rescue. GMB won't be a deciding factor in 2023 because he won't be contesting, most of those who supported him in 2015 will throw their hearts into the ring. All man for himself.
Though Turaki raised dust over his loss in court, he did it knowing the north is with him in 2023 if he chooses to contest. Over here, politics is first about the region. As the saying goes; 'siasia ba adini ba' so political grounds shifts easily.
Unfortunately for the Nigerian system the new security challenges is the 'spring board' with which the North will do away with APC but yet return to vote another Northerner back to Aso Rock. Its 'wala wala mugun Chacha' The cacophony of voices from the North in recent times is in line with grand plan to rule Nigeria for 16 uninterrupted years, the earlier 4+8 failed. Its now 8+8. 'inda shano na gaba ta sha ruwa, a nan ma, na baya ta sha'. Nothing go.happen!!!
Of course, the South is not united and thus can't function as a block. A VP slot will quench their taste. The South has sold herself, so all the permutations of a Southern Presidency is for the press.

Yes!! Tinubu will score more votes in Lagos should he contest but not three million votes. has Lagos achieved such turnout in recent time ? what about the votes of non APC supporters?. He will also secure less votes in the North. The North will not repeat the Abiola and Tofa contest. The North will field an experienced cosmopolitan politician who has the capacity to win votes in all political wards.
Southern Nigerias' Presidential quests greatest challenge don't lay with North but the South. OBJ was adopted by the North and sold to South, Southern support made it easy for him to win PDP's maiden primaries. In 2003, he consolidated his hold on the South. For any Southern candidate to occupy Aso Rock in 2023 he must have a near absolute support from the. South. OBJ & GEJ had it. Yaradua and GMB received same from the North on their way to Aso.Rock. To coast home with victory these Presidents also had an above average support from the opposite region.
Well Tinubu is yet to declare, he will know his chances when he declares.
May God grant us 2023...
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by slivertongue: 2:48pm On Jun 02, 2020
senatordave1:


You said atiku will defeat buhari

CORRECT !!! but that is history now. 2023 is the next election. 2019 is gone forever including Turaki's loss
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by seunmsg(m): 3:02pm On Jun 02, 2020
slivertongue:


CORRECT !!! but that is history now. 2023 is the next election. 2019 is gone forever including Turaki's loss

The only way to stop Tinubu is by denying him APC ticket by whatever means. If he wins the ticket, he will be president and there is nothing you can do about it.

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Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by senatordave1(m): 8:26am On Jun 06, 2020
slivertongue:


In 1999, the North produced OBJ and in 2003 they tactically encouraged Turaki to scare him. Turaki, TY and Gusau etc worked for the reelection of OBJ. OBJ later took his pound of flesh on Turaki preventing him from running on the party he co founded. Sensing the danger in fielding another Southerner OBJ withdrew support from Odilli and gave it to Yaradua. The Governors Forum seeing two of theirs running for the office of President and Vice threw their support behind the duo. At the demise of Yaradua, GEJ ran and won but lost in 2015 to GMB.
GMB's previous attempts came to nothing because the North was divided and he couldn't secure support up South. Same thing affected Turaki and Ribadu.
In 2011, the South were in one accord and also had the support of the North Central thus GEJ's victory. In 2015, the North were in one accord and also had Southern support thus GMB's victory. The crème of the North worked for GMB; Turaki, IBB, Abdulsalami, Gusau etc. GMB was seen in two fronts; To some he is their regional candidate and to others a religious leader. So everything was done for the North to gain power through him and it worked.

In 2019, dissenting voices emerged giving another Northerner the opportunity to test his popularity on a popular platform. These dissenting voices presented the most formidable politician alive and he gave a good account of his sojourn though he lost but now its clear that it was a dry run.
GMB has a mass following due mainly to his religious posturing, modest life style and his diehard pro Northern sentiments but he is NOT a politician and this account for his serial defeats. GMB couldn't win until politicians came to his rescue. GMB won't be a deciding factor in 2023 because he won't be contesting, most of those who supported him in 2015 will throw their hearts into the ring. All man for himself.
Though Turaki raised dust over his loss in court, he did it knowing the north is with him in 2023 if he chooses to contest. Over here, politics is first about the region. As the saying goes; 'siasia ba adini ba' so political grounds shifts easily.
Unfortunately for the Nigerian system the new security challenges is the 'spring board' with which the North will do away with APC but yet return to vote another Northerner back to Aso Rock. Its 'wala wala mugun Chacha' The cacophony of voices from the North in recent times is in line with grand plan to rule Nigeria for 16 uninterrupted years, the earlier 4+8 failed. Its now 8+8. 'inda shano na gaba ta sha ruwa, a nan ma, na baya ta sha'. Nothing go.happen!!!
Of course, the South is not united and thus can't function as a block. A VP slot will quench their taste. The South has sold herself, so all the permutations of a Southern Presidency is for the press.

Yes!! Tinubu will score more votes in Lagos should he contest but not three million votes. has Lagos achieved such turnout in recent time ? what about the votes of non APC supporters?. He will also secure less votes in the North. The North will not repeat the Abiola and Tofa contest. The North will field an experienced cosmopolitan politician who has the capacity to win votes in all political wards.
Southern Nigerias' Presidential quests greatest challenge don't lay with North but the South. OBJ was adopted by the North and sold to South, Southern support made it easy for him to win PDP's maiden primaries. In 2003, he consolidated his hold on the South. For any Southern candidate to occupy Aso Rock in 2023 he must have a near absolute support from the. South. OBJ & GEJ had it. Yaradua and GMB received same from the North on their way to Aso.Rock. To coast home with victory these Presidents also had an above average support from the opposite region.
Well Tinubu is yet to declare, he will know his chances when he declares.
May God grant us 2023...

Nice analysis but since atiku lost,you have lost all rights to predict.tinubu will be the next president,no northerner can defeat him
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 11:31am On Jun 06, 2020
seunmsg:


The only way to stop Tinubu is by denying him APC ticket by whatever means. If he wins the ticket, he will be president and there is nothing you can do about it.
Lol, keep dreaming, Nigerians are not foolish to make the bullion van president
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 11:32am On Jun 06, 2020
senatordave1:


Nice analysis but since atiku lost,you have lost all rights to predict.tinubu will be the next president,no northerner can defeat him
Pigs can fly then, if you think Northerners would vote for tinubu against Tambuwal or Kwankwanso
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by slivertongue: 2:45pm On Jun 06, 2020
senatordave1:


Nice analysis but since atiku lost,you have lost all rights to predict.tinubu will be the next president,no northerner can defeat him

when the time comes we will know who would be president but I didn't predict I told you what even tinubu knows. The North gat d numbers. if you are here you go know how far.
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by senatordave1(m): 3:24pm On Jun 06, 2020
slivertongue:


when the time comes we will know who would be president but I didn't predict I told you what even tinubu knows. The North gat d numbers. if you are here you go know how far.

You are right that the north got the number rs.no one can dispute that but you see that number cannot switch on automatically for any northerner.it will take another northernist like buhari plus a strong national electoral machinery like apc,die hard supporters,nationwide allies,massive financial warchest.only tinubu has that.tinubu will divide the northern votes.pdp has no such person except atiku who falls short in many areas with paperweight allies.who will fight for him in kebbi,yobe, borno...?

Your premises is based on the warped beliefs that the northerners in apc will abandon tinubu and support another northerner just like you guys thought that atiku because hes a northerner wi divide the north.enough of these childish postulations.let us be realistic.let the northerners in apc fifght for tinubu and those in pdp for atiku and let's see whether atiku will get up to 10 mil votes
Re: Can Tinubu Clinch The Presidency In 2023? by slivertongue: 10:28pm On Jun 07, 2020
senatordave1:


You are right that the north got the number rs.no one can dispute that but you see that number cannot switch on automatically for any northerner.it will take another northernist like buhari plus a strong national electoral machinery like apc,die hard supporters,nationwide allies,massive financial warchest.only tinubu has that.tinubu will divide the northern votes.pdp has no such person except atiku who falls short in many areas with paperweight allies.who will fight for him in kebbi,yobe, borno...?

Your premises is based on the warped beliefs that the northerners in apc will abandon tinubu and support another northerner just like you guys thought that atiku because hes a northerner wi divide the north.enough of these childish postulations.let us be realistic.let the northerners in apc fifght for tinubu and those in pdp for atiku and let's see whether atiku will get up to 10 mil votes

Wake up and stop your illusion. You are not a Northerner and from your response you have very little knowledge on Northern political culture. And am not interested in schooling you.
Turaki lost 2019 election to a Northerner but he gave a good account of himself. How many votes did GMB secure in the South compared to the North? And how many did Turaki secure down South compared to the North? What was the margin of win/loss between the two Northerners?
GMB won't have same following in 2023. Right now the new security challenge in the North has affected his support base and by 2023 he will be near insignificant. You folks in the South should go build your base cos we ain't giving you more than you gave a Northerner.
Stop the crap !!! where were APC diehards and their electoral machine between 1999-2011?
if the numbers won't turn automatically for a Northerner, is it a Southerner that will get it?
Did you mention war chest? Even with federal might Turaki funded his election. Can Tinubu do same beyond the South?
You are a joke!!! Tinubu divide Northern vote? Who will help him achieve this? Together with GMB they couldn't do much. Is it when GMB is not on the ballot paper that Tinubu will gain most Northern votes? Stop inflating your understanding. Come down to the North and checkout things for yourself instead of ranting online. Politics here is first about the region not about mundane allies, You know nothing about those you mentioned, yes they are buharist for the sake of govt house but will act like Tambuwal. All your allies and war chest couldn't take away sokoto, couldn't retain bauchi, Adamawa and Benue. you should worry that your party has lost states and would lose more.
In what area is Tinubu better than Turaki? Dare to interrogate the normative before you expose your lack of grasps of issues? Do you know that Turaki stood toe to toe with MKO and Yaradua? And would do same anytime, anywhere.
Nowhere did I say Tinubu will be abandoned by APC faithfuls in the North. The millions of votes GMB secured before joining APC won't be available cos they were for the North and GMB. Lest you forget, the almajirai wont be there for the taking by a non Northerner.
Despite the fact that Turaki and GMB lost to Yaradua there were no insults, bitterness, name calling or bad blood. Turaki lost to GMB and towed the same line, no insults, no hard feelings. can you say same of Southerners who degrade themselves with insults just because they are tenants at Aso Rock. The Middle Belt and the North will iron out their differences before the next election after then we will reach out to the South and offer them the VP slot and coast home with victory. We used the VP slot in 2015 to lure a faction of South and would repeat same in 2023 unless...
The earlier you fix your South the better for you cos we will make our choice devoid of sentiments. We intend to take advantage of your disunity to retain power. To counter us, pls come out united. A word is enough for the wise. :ka yi la a'kari da magana na'.

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"Let us be realistic.let the northerners in apc fifght for tinubu and those in pdp for atiku and let's see whether atiku will get up to 10 mil votes"
ILLUSION !!!!!

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