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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by 7lives: 9:19am On Jul 09, 2020
backbone503:


If PDP presents Atiku/Obi and APC presents anyone from SW/North, PDP will surely win. Atiku will bring in millions of vote from the North, SE is a PDP banker, and SS and SW will be split (60/40).

It's okay by us. as long as SW gets the APC ticket, where man work na there e dey chop.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by oyatz(m): 9:24am On Jul 09, 2020
No political party will deliberately want to make itself too easy to defeat, so political parties will likely pick candidates that they think can win elections for them.





GuyWise101:
Igbos are only demanding that PDP and Apc should zone their candidate in SE alone as it was done to Yorubas and North when it was their turn.
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by oyatz(m): 9:41am On Jul 09, 2020
1) Are you saying rigging can not work against a Yoruba or Hausa presidential candidate? Are you implying that an Igbo candidate will not win unless the Constitution is amended to accommodate electronic voting?

Do you think electronic voting will be foul proof?
Didn't you hear the rumours that part of the Dubai Strategy of the PDP in 2019 was to hire Ray Hushpuppy in Dubai to hack INEC website and post PDP results on the server basking on the assumption that Buhari would be uninformed enough to sign the Saraki-led ammended electoral act?

2) There is nobody's turn.
Are you suggesting that Yoruba APC chieftains should have worked for Jonathan/PDP victory in 2015?

Are you saying people should have stuck to the PDP even if they aren't happy with the performance of the Jonathan administration?

The APC administration has almost completed the Lagos-Ibadan Express road, Lagos-Ibadan Standard modern railway, the Oyo-Ogbomosho Express roads, the Oshodi-Apapa Express and several other projects which the PDP didn't do in the S/West. This is in addition to political appointments of some people from the S/West

Head or tail, the S/West negotiated and got a better deal with the APC than with the PDP.
Politics is all about interests.


bigfish3k:

1.I think we can't win because we don't have a free and fair electoral system. The yorubas and the hausas will use federal might to rig an igbo man out, that's why they are against electronic voting.
2.We call yorubas unprintable names because they didn't need to do what they did in 2015 because they have had their share through OBJ.
All they needed do is to support the other two southern regions to complete their turns the way those regions supported Obasanjo. But no, you people are demonizing us and insisting on using our turn. Your greed is too much and annoying

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by bigfish3k: 10:37am On Jul 09, 2020
oyatz:
1) Are you saying rigging can not work against a Yoruba or Hausa presidential candidate? Are you implying that an Igbo candidate will not win unless the Constitution is amended to accommodate electronic voting?

Do you think electronic voting will be foul proof?
Didn't you hear the rumours that part of the Dubai Strategy of the PDP in 2019 was to hire Ray Hushpuppy in Dubai to hack INEC website and post PDP results on the server basking on the assumption that Buhari would be uninformed enough to sign the Saraki-led ammended electoral act?

2) There is nobody's turn.
Are you suggesting that Yoruba APC chieftains should have worked for Jonathan/PDP victory in 2015?

Are you saying people should have stuck to the PDP even if they aren't happy with the performance of the Jonathan administration?

The APC administration has almost completed the Lagos-Ibadan Express road, Lagos-Ibadan Standard modern railway, the Oyo-Ogbomosho Express roads, the Oshodi-Apapa Express and several other projects which the PDP didn't do in the S/West. This is in addition to political appointments of some people from the S/West

Head or tail, the S/West negotiated and got a better deal with the APC than with the PDP.
Politics is all about interests.


Yorubas were calling for electoral reform when they were in opposition but now that the rigging machinery is with them, they are keeping mute

If you say there is nobodys turn you are playing smart because you just want to spoil the chances of the other southerners and give the north an advantage because power must return to them if you people fail to reciprocate and stop doing "sharp man". All the south must suffer it bearing in mind that its you people that betrayed

Given southern unity yorubas in APC should have worked for Jonathan the same way the the northerners in PDP worked for PMB for northern unity

People weren't happy with PDP because of ignorance
It is now clear that most things against PDP were propaganda. We now know better

I still remember SW drivers in my area in Lagos praying for Jonathan because of his massive road construction. Fashola also attested to this.
All the roads you mentioned were under serious construction under Jonathan . It was your brother Obasanjo that did nothing

The whole country is crying of hunger you said you got a better deal because of appointments

What about yorubas that have committed suicide because of this bad economy. So the deal didn't capture all yoruba interests
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by bigfish3k: 10:52am On Jul 09, 2020
7lives:


You support who?, did Yorubas support OBJ?.
We saw how a senator elect from SE was busy rigging election live on CNN, in favour of Obasanjo, against Olu Falae.
Not only the senator, there are others too, Igbos have no shame, if una get shame, una for no dey whine about how una help Yoruba.
You people vote and rigged an emotional election like that in favour of a man that was hated by his people, because of his stance on June 12, that was borne out of his envy for MKO and you think Yorubas should thank you for that are you people alright?.
Did you people see any wild jubilation in the SW when OBJ was declared the winner?.
The man you people voted for is still alive, go and send him to the Yorubas, let him come and tell us to pay for what we did not buy.
But how come the yorubas voted for him in his second term.
That means you people enjoyed the proceeds from his first term.
Remember that second term is a reward for a good first term performance. So OBJ has used your turn with our support
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Osaze007: 10:58am On Jul 09, 2020
leaculpa:

Lie.
1) Buhari contested twice where he had all the northern votes under CPC. Yet he lost. 2007 & 2011.
Fact - The north alone cant win by themselves, they need another regions help.

2) Jonathan won 2011 election with no single northern state. He won the whole south, excluding osun & won the whole middle belt, excluding Niger state. The margin between him & buhari wasnt even close.
Fact - It's possible to win a presidential election without northern states.



The core North is only 13 states
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Osaze007: 10:59am On Jul 09, 2020
Meninmen:


Lol. Those who are known to be genetically cowards and Betrayals are calling others cowards. In case you don't know, when the time is ripe, you will realise that majority of the SS and SE will gladly vote a Northern/SE or SS ticket than to vote a SW/Northern ticket, and which is the reason the North will hold on to power, because the entire South is divided, caused primarily by the greed and betrayal of the SW and which is why a Northern/SS or SE ticket will fly in the entire North and In the entire SS and SE, than a SW/Northern ticket

So, in 2023, when the North decides to hold on to power, you can bring you and your families out to protest!

Wishful thinking SS will go with SW

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by oyatz(m): 11:02am On Jul 09, 2020
Yorubas is an ethnic group and not a political party. There are different Yorubas I PDP,APC, Labour, SDP.

Ex-Govs Mimiko, Fayose, Gbenga Daniels, Gani Adams, Afenifere etc all worked for the PDP in 2015 such that Jonathan/PDP received about 2 million votes in the S/West while the PDP received about 2.5 million votes in the S/East

The Yorubas in the APC negotiated a better deal for the S/west with the APC.

There were Yorubas, Kanuris, Igbos, Idoma who have committed suicide and there were several other people who have built their own houses, bought cars and improved their economic well being as well.

There were Northern politicians in the PDP but most of the time them had decamped to the APC before the 2015 election.
The remants in the PDP were simply overshadowed by the APC.


Politics is about interests. It's wrong to assume politicians must NOT pursue their own interests but but should have pursued your interests (Jonathan/PDP victory).

Have you bothered to seat down and asked what would have been the interests of Tinubu, Amaechi, Osinbajo, Sylva, Fayemi, Fashola, Gbajabiamila, Saraki,Aregbesola, Oshiomole if Jonathan/PDP had won the 2015 election?



bigfish3k:

Yorubas were calling for electoral reform when they were in opposition but now that the rigging machinery is with them, they are keeping mute

If you say there is nobodys turn you are playing smart because you just want to spoil the chances of the other southerners.

Given southern unity yorubas in APC should have worked for Jonathan the same way the the northerners in PDP worked for PMB for northern unity

People weren't happy with PDP because of ignorance
It is now clear that most things against PDP were propaganda. We now know better

I still remember SW drivers in my area in Lagos praying for Jonathan because of his massive road construction. Fashola also attested to this.
All the roads you mentioned were under serious construction. It was your brother Obasanjo that did not do a follow up on those constructions

The whole country is crying of hunger you said you got a better deal because of appointments

What about yorubas that have committed suicide because of this bad economy. So the deal didn't capture all yoruba interests
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Nobody: 11:24am On Jul 09, 2020
Osaze007:


Wishful thinking SS will go with SW

Lol. Keep dreaming. Which SS? Ameachi or Oshiomole?

Nor be if dem even give ticket to SW that you will be thinking of who will go with SW? SW is not getting the presidential ticket of PDP and APC. You never understand anything. The North already knows the SS and SE will repay the SW for their treachery in 2023, so they have nothing to fear. They will retain the presidency and nothing will happen!

Continue dreaming and consoling yourself. As 2023 draws closer, it will become clearer in your eyes grin.

PS: I'm not igbo o. B4 you start foaming from both sides of your mouth about Ipob

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by 7lives: 12:48pm On Jul 09, 2020
bigfish3k:

But how come the yorubas voted for him in his second term.
That means you people enjoyed the proceeds from his first term.
Remember that second term is a reward for a good first term performance. So OBJ has used your turn with our support

The people who masterminded that at the expense of Yoruba interest " Afeniferawon " are still in PDP, they even support Goodluck.
They succeed then because people don't understand the game being played by these elders but now, those elders are on their own.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by backbone503(m): 12:54pm On Jul 09, 2020
7lives:


It's okay by us. as long as SW gets the APC ticket, where man work na there e dey chop.

Same reason SE deserves PDP's presidential ticket. SE has been totally loyal for good 16yrs+

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by bigfish3k: 1:07pm On Jul 09, 2020
7lives:


The people who masterminded that at the expense of Yoruba interest " Afeniferawon " are still in PDP, they even support Goodluck.
They succeed then because people don't understand the game being played by these elders but now, those elders are on their own.
But you people that are ruling now are not allowing free and fair elections like the agbero and election rigging that happened in osun, Lagos and ekiti to know if your people are still following afenifere or not

By the way, majority of yorubas supported it then. You had 5 states for PDP then
All your governors except Tinubu.
And all those governors that supported that move then are still in APC. ie Bisi Akande , Segun Osoba, Niyi Adebayo, Alao Akala etc
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Ovamboland(m): 2:36pm On Jul 09, 2020
GuyWise101:
Igbos are only demanding that PDP and Apc should zone their candidate in SE alone as it was done to Yorubas and North when it was their turn.

APC zoned to Northwest while PDP zoned to Northeast.

Why only north as a single entity, and now divide south into 3?

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by leaculpa: 3:34pm On Jul 09, 2020
Meninmen:


W[s]e. Those who are known to be genetically cowards and Betrayals are calling others cowards. In case you don't know, when the time is ripe, you will realise that majority of the SS and SE will gladly vote a Northern/SE or SS ticket than to vote a SW/Northern ticket, and which is the reason the North will hold on to power, because the entire South is divided, caused primarily by the greed and betrayal of the SW and which is why a Northern/SS or SE ticket will fly in the entire North and In the entire SS and SE, than a SW/Northern ticket

So, in 2023, when the North decides to hold on to power, you can bring you and your families out to protest! [/s]
All these talk is irrelevant. If the SE does not strive to get the PDP ticket for 2023, theyll be forever viewed as cowards.
Your own heart has already failed & we are still in 2020. Shame.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by akdjr(m): 3:45pm On Jul 09, 2020
Me I be Edo oooo. Not Yoruba. But how do u convince Northerners and westerners to vote enmass for an Eastern candidate? It doesn't work by just saying it's our turn or you just want the APC to just pick someone from the region they don't have much vote? Bro abeg reason am. If we should adopt rotation, let it be in our constitution cos na the only way forward be that. When it's ur region turn, then the region come with candidate. quote author=bigfish3k post=91529160]
This your "you can't reap where you did not sow" slogan is what you yorubas used to divide the south the way it is today by using it to deny igbos any top position in this government.
Going by your logic
In 2015, how many northern governors were of APC before you voted PMB[/quote]

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by ChimaAdeoye: 3:52pm On Jul 09, 2020
OreMI22:


How polarized and tribalized Nigeria has become today, it is in the best interest of Igbo for the Presidency to go to a moderate northerner from the northeast zone in 2023. Since democracy is a game of numbers, you strategize the best way to win and not always plan to lose woefully.

All this talk by Yoruba to massage Igbo ego on how it has been PDP for 2,000 years, Igbo is the only one without a President and other total nonsense blah blah blah are designed by Tinubu to make the 2023 contest a Yoruba versus Igbo election. So they can rig it mercilessly.

Only naive people like Tinubu will be hoping on APC and PDP giving its tickets to a southerner.




The ONLY reason that Yorubas are clamoring for an Igbo candidate to run under PDP and not APC is because of their plan for Tinubu presidency grin grin grin grin . How can any right-thinking person wish to enthrone a common thief like Tinubu to manage Nigeria's resources?
Silly dreamers grin grin grin cheesy

I thank God that PDP has come out to clearly state that the 2023 presidency has been zoned to the Northeast region. Now, let APC give Tinubu its ticket and we shall sit back relax and watch the show grin grin grin.

Schemers like El-rufai in APC will not stand idly and watch Tinubu easily lose their grip on power.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by bigfish3k: 3:59pm On Jul 09, 2020
akdjr:
Me I be Edo oooo. Not Yoruba. But how do u convince Northerners and westerners to vote enmass for an Eastern candidate? It doesn't work by just saying it's our turn or you just want the APC to just pick someone from the region they don't have much vote? Bro abeg reason am. If we should adopt rotation, let it be in our constitution cos na the only way forward be that. When it's ur region turn, then the region come with candidate. quote author=bigfish3k post=91529160]
This your "you can't reap where you did not sow" slogan is what you yorubas used to divide the south the way it is today by using it to deny igbos any top position in this government.
Going by your logic
In 2015, how many northern governors were of APC before you voted PMB
Rotation is not in the constitution but we have an understanding about it by ourselves to make those that don't have much electoral strength like the SE to belong.
If you say it's not in the constitution the north can as well use this statement to continue ruling forever because they have the political numbers so that the whole south can feel the pain of the south east when you continue telling them that they should wait for it to be in the constitution before their share is given them as it was done to others.
Its not in the constitution but its about understanding.
Don’t let us be callous

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jul 09, 2020
leaculpa:

All these talk is irrelevant. If the SE does not strive to get the PDP ticket for 2023, theyll be forever viewed as cowards.
Your own heart has already failed & we are still in 2020. Shame.

Mumu doesn't understand that the PDP is giving it's ticket to the North, so is APC. The SE will be compensated with VP. He is talking about SE striving! Striving to do what? Na dem wan give their selves the presidential ticket?

So, in your shallow mind, PDP will give their ticket to SE, and APC will give their ticket to SW? Lol. A simpleton indeed!

As for my heart failing, you don't know anything. I'm from the SS. I rather vote for a Northerner than vote for a person from the SW!

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by leaculpa: 11:38pm On Jul 09, 2020
Meninmen:


Mumu doesn't understand that the PDP is giving it's ticket to the North, so is APC. The SE will be compensated with VP. He is talking about SE striving! Striving to do what? Na dem wan give their selves the presidential ticket?

So, in your shallow mind, PDP will give their ticket to SE, and APC will give their ticket to SW? Lol. A simpleton indeed!

As for my heart failing, you don't know anything. I'm from the SS. I rather vote for a Northerner than vote for a person from the SW!
Lol, What a joke! No need arguing wt someone dt has accepted his hopeless fate. I shame for you. Paper tigers.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Ovamboland(m): 3:09pm On Jul 10, 2020
eldoradoxx:
It will be a fight to finish between North and South over who produces next President. No Southern whether in APC or PDP should even support the denial of any Southern in his part of the right to produce the next President. By 2023, the North would have had its uninterrupted 8 years stay in power. The natural thing is for power to return to the South. Let South West clinch APC ticket and South East PDP ticket, all of them with Northern VP ticket let them taste their popularity since Southwest isn't ready to reciprocate the favour the East and South South gave to their own Obj from 1999 to 2007 when they massively supported and voted him even when his own rejected him.


How can you expect any reciprocation, when you voted Obasanjo against whom his people wanted? The only reciprocity is to vote against whomsoever you want.

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by Nobody: 2:26am On Jul 19, 2020
leaculpa:

Lol, What a joke! No need arguing wt someone dt has accepted his hopeless fate. I shame for you. Paper tigers.

Lol. I couldn't respond to you because I was suspended (reason unknown to me).

After the SW sided with the North in 2015, the clown wants the SS and SE to stand with the SW so the SW can get the presidency grin. So in 2023, you want a united south? You are a joker and a Buffon all in one! In 2015, did the SW think as "Southerners"? No!
In 2023, the SS and SE ain't thinking as " Southerners". We want the presidency to go to the SE, but if it's not going to the SE, then the North should retain power. Period!


let me reiterate myself. As a person from the SS, I will prefer the presidency remains in the North than to go to the SW and the North is holding on to power. You can keep wailing!

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Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by ludd2018: 2:55am On Jul 19, 2020
Igbos must go for Biafra. We are not interested in Presidency
Re: 2023: South-East PDP Rejects Zoning Of Presidential Ticket To North by TechSkill: 3:40pm On Aug 05, 2020
Osaze007:


So your a slave
I have told u to stop using Benin name. You are not a Benin person.

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