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I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by TheClown: 5:43pm On Feb 10, 2011
I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years
My Story by Gordon Cook


June 2000

I first met Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) in March 1971, I would be 20 the following month. I had always had an interest in the Bible, not that my parents had been religious in any sense. But I wanted to know why this particular book had such an influence on people. But really had no idea what to do about it and where to learn. My friends and I at the time used to have long discussions about religion, meaning of life etc. Sometimes when we where in a local bar, we would have everyone in the room involved. One of these friends worked with a man who was a JW (actually he was just having a study with the JWs at the time and was baptised later) and he used to come back and tell me about it. It sounded interesting and I asked to meet him. The JW arranged for me to meet another one who was more experienced. The way in which this JW answered my questions impressed me. The answers were clear, concise and logical. He used the Bible to answer questions. A regular study was arranged using the book "The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life" which is no longer used. I also started to attend the meetings at the local Kingdom Hall. I knew a few of those who were there as I worked in a local shop and they were customers.

In time I became convinced that this was the "truth" and was baptised on January 6th.1972. I was a fairly shy person and found the door-to-door preaching work hard going. But as what you were going to say was usually set out for you it wasn't to bad. Eventually I joined the Theocratic Ministry School in the congregation where you where taught to speak, give talks etc. If there is anything that I am grateful for to the JWs is that they did teach me how to get up in front of an audience and speak. By the time I left I was able to give talks, handle items on the platform ranging from 5 minutes to 45 minutes, in front of 100+ people.

One thing I must say at this point is that though this was the early 1970's and the well known year of 1975 was coming up. I can honestly say that in the congregation I was in it was never put over as a big thing, in fact it was rarely mentioned. Yet from what I have read recently other congregations took to it in a big way. In fact through the years I noticed how congregations did vary in some ways from each other.

In 1974 I got married to a JW sister. In the due course of time between 1975 to 1989 we had seven children. Of course our life centred on being JWs, attending meeting, field ministry, going to conventions etc. I became a Ministerial Servant in 1988. All in all we had a fairly good life, I didn't have a well paid job but we managed.

Through the years as a JW I never really questioned any teachings, except for the way in which Jesus Christ was sort of given a secondary role, when the Scriptures clearly stated that He was the only means if being saved. Everything was "Jehovah" centred, we must use the name of Jehovah, Jehovah did this or that, be part of Jehovah's organisation to be saved. Yet when reading the Greek scriptures, the whole emphasis is on Jesus being the only means of salvation. Every writer, Paul, James, John, Peter, Jude all spoke about Jesus with no mention of Jehovah. When asking any Elder about this I would get a vague answer, "Jehovah's the only one" or "Those scriptures are only for the 144,000." I now know that according to the Watchtower organisation the ordinary JW, (those not of the 144,000 or one of the 8,000 plus of that group left on Earth.) have no relationship with Christ, because according to the Watchtower, Christ is only mediator between Jehovah and the "anointed" 144,000. The only way an ordinary JW can approach God is through the fact that the Watchtower is the only channel.

But I digress, lets get back to where I am now. In 1989 we moved to a bigger house. This meant extra expense, 5 bedroom house, 7 children you can imagine. Also I wanted my children to have what I could give them, I wanted a family life that a JW should have. Bills kept coming in and I started to use credit cards to pay them, you can imagine what was going to happen, I took out a loan to try and pay everything off. I kept all this hidden from my wife, because I knew she wouldn't approve and also that as a JW you weren't suppose to get yourself into debt. I suppose also being from a upbringing where the man was considered the breadwinner, I felt I was letting everyone down. I am not proud of how I got into that state. If I had turned round and said "we can't afford it" it might have been different. Its with great sorrow that I feel I betrayed the trust of my wife and family. As a husband and father I wanted the best for my family and that sometimes clouds your judgment and I must carry that side of it with me. By the beginning of 1996 the pressure of all this became too much and by April I had a breakdown. I won't go in to details over what I did, but basically I walked out of the house one morning never intending to return, planning to commit suicide. I ended up in the Lake District.

One night I decided the time had come, so I took about 30 or so Paracetmol tablets, some aspirin and drank a bottle of brandy. This was while sitting on a hill overlooking a valley, it was beautiful. But I felt I had lost everything, wife, family and my God. I gradually fell unconscious, only to wake up the next morning, still on the hill, feeling awful. I went back to the guesthouse, spent the day in bed, taking even more tablets. I was still here the next day, for some reason, and so decided to head back home. Eventually I got to a hospital and told them what I had done. They put me on a drip, next day they said considering what I had taken there was hardly any trace of anything in my blood. My wife had been contacted, we had a tearful reunion. Subsequently, I was due to spend about 4 weeks in a psychiatric hospital. I was diagnosed as having acute clinical depression and that I had probably had it for about three years or more and that this was the culmination of it. I was given ECT treatment. One aside was that whenever any of the medical staff found out I was a JW. They would sort of say "Well, that explains it", one of the psychiatrists said that depression was very common amongst JW and I was the fourth one that year.

Now during all this I thought that "Jehovah's loving organisation" would help me recover. Boy! Was I wrong. While in the hospital my wife would visit, as it was some distance she usually got a lift, most times from an Elder of the congregation. You would think they would try and give me some encouragement, but they usually came and said hello then waited outside. I saw other patients visited by their ministers who spent time talking to them.

When I was allowed home I had visits from those concerned with my "case." They did not seem to be able to deal with it. The main concern was how soon can we have a "judicial committee" , they seem to spend more time talking to my wife than me. Also I got the feeling my wife was more concerned with the shame that it brought on her and what her standing in the congregation was, from the time I came home we never slept together again.

At this point I want to say thanks to one JW who helped me. Remember I still had the debts. He put me in touch with a person who deals with such things to see if they could come up with a solution, but eventually I had to be declared bankrupt. That brother paid for that person to help. Even though I had not seen him for a long time, of them all, he was the only one to give any practical help and I will always be grateful to him.

I was eventually brought before a "judicial committee" and was "privately reproved." Their whole answer to my problem was "go on the preaching work, attend meetings." To anyone who has depression the last thing you want to do is knock on doors and talk to strangers. This is when I started getting the feeling that it was not the "loving organisation" I thought it was. Over the following weeks I got the impression that I was "persona non grata."

Then one day my wife told me she wanted me to leave the home, she even found me a bedsit and paid the deposit. Later on I was told that she had been told to do this by the Elders as I was considered a "spiritual danger" to the family. I moved to another town as my wife didn't want me to attend the same congregation. My new congregation was not interested in me either. In the three years I had been there I had one visit from an Elder and that was to ask why I wasn't going on the ministry. One sister there said that in the twenty years she had been there she has never had an Elder visit her. While attending a circuit assembly an Elder from another congregation I knew came up to me and said how sorry he was to hear about what happened, he seemed to know it all, I asked how he knew, he said "There are some brothers who can't keep their mouth shut" when he was going he said "They'll get rid of you, they don't know how to deal with you, you're an embarrassment to them." Up till now I still believed the Watchtower to be God's organisation, but doubts where beginning to appear. Then one day, just over a year ago in the local library, I came across the book "Awake to the Watchtower" by Doug Harris and Bill Browning by the Reachout Trust. I picked it up and thought "another of those books against JWs" and sat down to see what lies were being said. I sat and practically read the whole book. I saw Scripture in a new light (to use a JW saying).

I felt something lift from me especially when I read about Christ being the only way to salvation, it brought back what I had thought years ago. It also brought attention to the Watchtower not being God's organisation and much more.

But I had to have more evidence, the library had recently had a computer section installed where for a fee you could use them. I decided to look on the Internet to see if there was anything. Boy! what stuff did I find! Being of a cautious nature I checked and double checked what I was finding. It was all clear evidence that for the past 28 years it had all been a lie. The Watchtower Society started to condemn the Internet, virtually saying it was Satan's tool and only apostates used it and put lies on it. I got the feeling they were scared of what it contained because they couldn't control it. I started to amass a huge amount of information, from how the WT had changed doctrine to false prophecy. I spoke to various ones over the phone, ex-JWs who had been in it for 20, 30, 40 or more years and then found out the truth. Because of learning all this I was at a meeting at the Kingdom Hall in August 1999, listening to the speaker I realised it was the same old thing "do more hours, place more books this is the only way to get spiritual and be close to God." That was my last meeting. I have never had a visit from the Elders, not even to see if I was coming to the Memorial, which is what I had decided was my cut off point, if they didn't contact me then for such an important event then they didn't care about me, so I finished with them.

I now realised that I needed to talk to someone about it. So I got in touch with the Reachout Trust and they put me in contact with one of their representatives Vince McCann, who I am grateful to for putting up with me over the last few months and giving me some spiritual support. A couple of weeks ago he took me to a Christian meeting, where we watched a film about Christ. It was a simple meeting nothing special, the person in charge, not a minister or Elder, just an ordinary man who is a Christian, gave a short talk and asked a prayer. He asked if anyone wanted to give themselves to Christ to raise their hand. I did! Now I need to learn more about Christ. There is probably a lot more I could have put in this story, but some of them are still hurtful to me.

November 2000 update

During the last 3 months I have been attending  an Elim Pentecostal church. At first I found it quite strange, because it was so full of emotion. The singing, raising hands in the air, shouts of praise, people talking in tongues. All this to a JW is extremely strange and considered satanic, because of the JW view of other religions.  Because of the past experience I was very wary at first and not wanting emotion to lead me down the wrong path again. But having spoken to members of this church and attended Bible classes they hold and a house group. I have come to learn that they have a genuine love for God and Christ, not based on being part of some organisation that claims to be Gods only true organisation. The only book they use is the Bible, no magazines or books like the JWs, just the Bible. When they say a Bible study that is what it is, not using some book and the Bible on the side. At the house groups they discuss various aspects of Christian life and I mean discuss, not following some format laid down by an organisation.  I have started what is called a "Nurture" course where you learn about the basics of Christian faith, Christ, salvation, baptism, prayer etc. If you don't agree with some aspect of the teachings you are not considered an apostate or troublemaker. There is a great belief in the power of the Holy Spirit bringing people to God and guiding them. There is also a tremendous belief in the power of prayer, I don't think I have come across a group who pray so much at their meetings.

As time goes on I am learning more an more about the true Christian faith. I have learnt about the true Christ not the one the JWs believe is the Archangel Michael, which is an insult to both Jehovah and Christ.  Oh! Yes, Christians do use the name Jehovah, maybe not as often as the JWs but they do use it and know it is God's name. They also call on people from door to door, maybe not in such a highly organised way as the JWs but they do, do it.  They call it an Outreach ministry where they try to tell people about Christ and the hope and love He holds out to them. They do not tell people that they have to be part of some organisation to be saved, but to believe in Christ and follow Him.

What affect has this had on me? I feel that a burden has been lifted from me that I am no longer following the teachings of a man-made organisation who wants to control people's lives. I no longer attend meetings where you worry about what "they" think of you. No longer is the love shown to you conditional that you "toe the party line" and accept all without question. This does not mean that everything is all well, I still have periods of depression, I still have financial problems. But now I know I have someone you I can turn to and understands and no matter what happens that Christ will be there to help me through it all.

What about my family? Those children of mine who live with me have noticed a difference in me. My daughter said that I seem less inhibited and have a happier attitude, she has expressed an interest in attending one of the meetings at the church.  The children who live wife my wife I see every week. Though they still go to the JW meetings with my wife they have no desire to be one. My wife has not spoken to me for about a year.  I have not disassociated myself from the JWs or as far as I know I have not been disfellowshipped as when I'm out they still say hello to me. No JW elder has been to see me or contacted me in any way for 15 months since I last attended a meeting at the Kingdom Hall.

Judging by what has been happening with the Watchtower organisation in recent months over the blood doctrine and reorganisation, etc., many JWs are in a state of confusion as to what or which way they organisation is going. Some who I have spoken to have been shaken by the way the blood doctrine has been whittled away to such an extent that it barely means anything now. To them this was one of the main doctrines that set them apart from Christendom. Just like the change in the "1914 generation" teaching it has hit their confidence in the organisation. It will be interesting to see in coming months what develops.

Though my leaving the JWs has been a painful process. I now know the true meaning of relying on God and not a man-made organisation.  Since my story has appeared on the Internet I have had many many letters from  ex-JW's giving support, JWs wanting to leave and how difficult they find it. People wanting help in dealing with JWs, those with family or friends who are JWs or are studying with them.  One thing I must say is that when I get the occasional  letter from a serving JW it always has the same style, they are usually arrogant, self-righteous, and sometimes downright abusive, using words I thought a JW wouldn't know.  One I received just said "You suck! I'm a JW and you're going to die at Armageddon".  I always reply and ask for a reason why I should remain a JW. If I get a reply they usually say because the Watchtower organisation is God's only true one on earth, but no scriptural basis for their belief.  If you tell them about the Watchtower's past, false prophecies, changes in doctrine, doctrine that changes to new then back to old, then even back again to new. They say I'm making it up, when it can all be found in their own publications.

If anyone wants to make any comment about the above please write to : swgco2@netscape.net

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Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by 5solas(m): 11:25pm On Feb 11, 2011
What an awesome post and testimony!
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by olubuffett: 4:42am On Feb 12, 2011
I thank God that you now know Christ, please do not give up on your family; its a pity if an organisation believes they are the only approved by God yet can not keep to his word of not dividing a married couple.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by bright007(f): 2:54pm On Feb 12, 2011
great deliverance for u
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by proffmanue(m): 9:02am On Feb 13, 2011
Get in touch with any of your children that you know you can confined in. through this child you can win your family back. shalom
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Sparkle777(f): 12:33pm On Feb 13, 2011
What an awesome testimony,never knew this abt JW.even though I ve always tot that somethings amiss.I enjoy their Awake magazine.Unto
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Nobody: 11:24am On Feb 23, 2011
http://www.bibleprobe.com/haydeecortes.htm this link is another ex jehova witness who left due to what she learnt during her neardeath experience.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by alimat2(f): 4:04pm On Feb 24, 2011
@ All
sorry to ask.
Is JW another religion diff. frm xtainity?
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Nobody: 6:26pm On Feb 24, 2011
@ Alimat
Jehova Witnesses are christians with different interpretation of the bible and how christianity should be practiced.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Odunharry(m): 7:29am On Feb 25, 2011
jehovah witnesses are nt christians.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by mabell: 10:12am On Feb 26, 2011
I wonder why kunleoshob has been avoiding this thread. Is he ashamed of his religion? tongue
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by KunleOshob(m): 10:19am On Feb 26, 2011
@mabell
I am clearly not a jehovah witness and I know very little about them so stop jumping into silly conclusions. I remain an unrepentant non denominational follower of christ.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Joagbaje(m): 11:00am On Feb 26, 2011
:p
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Azibalua(f): 2:50pm On Feb 26, 2011
KunleOshob:

@mabell
I am clearly not a jehovah witness and I know very little about them so stop jumping into silly conclusions. I remain an unrepentant non denominational follower of christ.
Non denominational
Okay so who do you fellowship with

Hebrews 10:25
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some[ is]; but exhorting[ one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by KunleOshob(m): 4:00pm On Feb 26, 2011
@Azibaula
Where I fellowship is no business of yours, besides the hebrew 10:25 scripture is an admonition and NOT a commandment.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Horus(m): 10:00pm On Feb 26, 2011
The Jehovah's Witnesses racist message and racism that white is good, and brown, red, and yellow are bad is quite blatant. With  millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, of multi races and nationalities that are a part of the organization, why aren't any of the prophets, prophetesses, princes, princesses, priests, Adam and Eve, Jesus, or pharaohs of a different race than Caucasian? Moreover, please don't say that it doesn't matter because if it didn't, then they all wouldn't be Caucasians. Moreover, if it really didn't “matter” you wouldn't have made any pictures at all!
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by bencobenz(m): 4:32pm On Feb 28, 2011
Jehovah Witness: A bunch of HYPOCRITE parading themselves as the only true christians.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by knowledge4(m): 10:54am On Apr 17, 2012
I am not a Jehovah Witness member.Stating my denomination here is totally unnecessary.
Christianity is not really about denominations because there are no denominations in Heaven.Entrance into God's kingdom is not determined by one's christian domination on Earth.We shall be judged by our compliance with the Word of God.The Word of God(The Bible) has its own doctrines and beliefs which make up the true Christian faith.
I am a student of Comparative Religion and understand the doctrinal basis of most of the christian sects or denominations and some of the other religions.That is in comparison with the doctrines of the Bible.
The Jehovah Witnesses(JW) is a false christian sect.its doctrines are at total variance with the true doctrines of the Bible.
The J.W was founded by Charles Tassel Russel(1852-1916) and were known as the Russelites until 1931 when the name Jehovah Witnesses was adopted. They have numerous publication but the major ones are the Watchtower Bible,Watchtower Magazine and Awake.
Their assembly is known as kingdom halls.They believe that all religions,churches and governments are organizations controlled by Satan.Their doctrines are at total variance with the doctrines of the Bible.

Examples are:

The JW deny the Deity of Christ saying that the Christ is the archangel Michael,therefore a created being and not God and no virgin birth.The Bible refuttal is clearly stated in Micah 5:2,John 1:1,John 10:30,Phil 2:5-7

The JW deny the personality of the Holy Spirit. they say that the Holy Spirit is not a person but an ''active force'',not God in their JW Bible.The Bible refuttal is Zech 4:6,John16:5-7,Acts 5:3-4,1 Corinth 3:16

The JW deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ saying that he resurrected only in the spirit
The Bible refutes this wrong doctrine in Luke 24:36-46,Acts 2:23-32,1 Corinth 15

The JW deny the existence of a Hell and the eternal punishment of the wicked and say that the soul of Man is mortal
The Bible refuttal is in Isaiah 66:24,Matthew 25:46,Mark 9:43,Rev 14:9-11,Rev 19:2-3,Rev 20:10-15

The JW deny the Trinity which the Bible affirms in 1 John 5:7. If you read the Bible's 1 John 5:7,the content is different from that of the JW Bible's 1 John 5:7. The JW Bible's 1 John 5:7 is a polluted or distorted version of the Bible's 1 John 5:7

The Bible curses anyone who adds to,or removes from the Bible in order to distort its messages (Revelations 22:18-19)
As it is established now that the foundation of the JW is false & their doctrines are false and at variance with the true doctrines of the true Christian faith,then everything about them is totally false.Arguments are unnecessary.

On the above,i stand to be corrected by any JW member who can provide solid,incontestable facts to the contrary, not sentiments.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Joel3(m): 2:03am On Apr 18, 2012
Na wa oh JW. But i enjoy their magazine they are inteligient pple. I just dislike them now.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by numo86(m): 7:33am On Apr 18, 2012
Its like I saw dis post late...
@poster....please can u just summerize what realy made u leave...ur post is rili wrong...
And I wanna know where u belong now.....
I'll much appreciate that.....
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by numo86(m): 7:48am On Apr 18, 2012
@poster......
So ur still wondering if Jesus is d arch angel
Jehovahs witnesses dnt 100 percent call Jesus d arch angel....but evidences from d scriptures is what brought about that conclusion...if there were never scriptures supportin that fact would we have bothered our head about it??
Its not becos we just wanna conclude....
Its becos no other person can feel d shoes of micheal d arch angel......
I mean who would u say d arch angel is
We delve into various bible points and come out with sound reasonings.....
Which other person ,appointed by Yahweh has d sole right to defeat satan and his angels if not Jesus?
For ur latest information not only Jehovahs witnesses now conclude that micheal is Jesus...other theologians and scholars now agree with that fact.....because d evidence is just there...
I recently had this same discussion with a close freind of mine who has been on us for a long time and he did his own internet research and drew d same conclusion.......
Is it d angel mention after d ARCH that's ur problem or what
Trinitarians never agree with d arch angel stuff becos they feel Jesus can never be an angel...has that become ur view now too??
But I'll tell u to go check d meaning of an angel and then u might as well re-conclude that Jesus was and is 1......
Because he was and is always sent....(Messanger).......even Jesus was an apostle.....

Let's just begin wit d arch angel issue.....
Is that ur email up there u wrote??
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by kokolet007(f): 1:50pm On Aug 09, 2012
A̶̲̥̅♏ nt a JW ​ß̍̍̊ůh̶̲̥̅̊ I study wif dem and I see all der teachin are base frm the bible...nd I see dem as one love family compare to these man saying...well I won't believe evrytin he said cos he neva said wat he did,a loving wife of 7children wil neva allow anyone to condemn her husby wen d man has alwedy apologies nd regretted his action,nd all d money he spent he spend it on his family,plz I wil neva agree with the man!

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Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Maximus85(m): 2:21am On Aug 11, 2012
This poster is a liar. He has never been a Jehovah Witness.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Nobody: 10:48am On Aug 11, 2012
Wonderful post.

But this is not only applicable to JWs but other church cults that try to control their members through various forms of manipulation.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Nobody: 10:49am On Aug 11, 2012
Maximus85: This poster is a liar. He has never been a Jehovah Witness.

JW is a cult, come out of it, be free and meet the real Jesus.

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom - 2 Corinthians 3:17
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 11, 2012
Azibalua:
Non denominational
Okay so who do you fellowship with

Hebrews 10:25
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some[ is]; but exhorting[ one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.


The days of using scripture to deceive the masses is over.

Do you know that where 2 or 3 are gathered together in the name of Jesus , that he is there -

"For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." - Matthew 18:20

For example I have fellowship with my wife and children, this is also acceptable in the sight of GOD.

I also fellowship in a NON-DENOMINATIONAL church where I live with no strings attached. Just praise God, share the word but no compulsion to adhere to any particular doctrine or do things in a certain way that pleases the pastor.

JW, Catholic church , mega churches , and the likes are all Man made 'control freak' cults.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by truthislight: 3:17pm On Aug 11, 2012
frosbel:

JW is a cult, come out of it, be free and meet the real Jesus.

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom - 2 Corinthians 3:17

hmmm!

Do you mind explaining how they fit into the "cult" thing?

This coming from you that naira land knows too well!

Frosbel/oladegbu
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by truthislight: 3:23pm On Aug 11, 2012
frosbel: Wonderful post.

But this is not only applicable to JWs but other church cults that try to control their members through various forms of manipulation.


this means according to you their are no restriction contain in the bible.
So, any restriction is from the church not from the bible

Hope NL has not turn you to an atheist or you are on you way there.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:56am On Aug 20, 2012
truthislight:

hmmm!

Do you mind explaining how they fit into the "cult" thing?

This coming from you that naira land knows too well!

Frosbel/oladegbu


Can you explain what you mean by this?
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by truthislight: 1:02pm On Aug 20, 2012
Ed
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by truthislight: 1:14pm On Aug 20, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

Can you explain what you mean by this?

that post was for Frosbel.

I only added your name cus it cross my mind that you may end up having same conclusion with him.

He said that he does not go to church again that he only gathers with his wife and children at home.

Heb 10:25 says gathering together should not be forsaken.

Arriving at decision contrary to the bible leads one to being an atheist.

Maybe i should not have added your name since it was not you that made the statement. Sorry then.
Re: I Left Jehovah's Witnesses After 28 Years - Gordon Cook by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:25pm On Aug 20, 2012
truthislight:

that post was for Frosbel.

I only added your name cus it cross my mind that you may end up having same conclusion with him.

He said that he does not go to church again that he only gathers with his wife and children at home.

Heb 10:25 says gathering together should not be forsaken.

Arriving at decision contrary to the bible leads one to being an atheist.

Maybe i should not have added your name since it was not you that made the statement. Sorry then.

Rather, I think frosbel has more in common with your Society since he believes in most, if not all, of the doctrines you teach. Choosing not to fellowship with the body of Christ will expose you to false doctrines and prophets that are designed to make us go astray. If you don't fellowship means that you are not a fellow sheep.

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