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Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Gbawe: 10:46am On Mar 01, 2011
Bunch of confused and decietful crooks. They are all conspirators in theft and embezzlement. Why so long to pass the Sovereign Wealth bill thereby dangerously leaving Nigeria in limbo? This dishonest Senate has the nerve , when the ECA is virtually depleted , to "stop" withdrawal from it because "its existence is alien to Nigeria’s Constitution." If they are sincere , they should be asking Jonathan and Aganga the whereabout of the $1 billion withdrawn from the ECA as start up cash for a soveriegn Wealth fund that is still pending many months after a considerable amount of cash was removed from national 'rainy day' savings for its launch.

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Senate stops withdrawal from excess crude account Tuesday,

01 March 2011 00:00 From John-Abba Ogbodo, Abuja News - National   

Plans transfer of funds to Sovereign Wealth Account

ANY further withdrawal from the controversial Excess Crude Oil Funds by the Executive arm of government may no longer be tolerated by the Senate, which yesterday described its existence as alien to Nigeria’s Constitution.

To the operators and beneficiaries of the account, the Senate directed them to await the passage of the Sovereign Wealth Bill currently before the National Assembly, which spells out the usage of such monies.

The Senate also hinted yesterday that it would push for the use of the excess crude funds to execute the 2011 budget and frowned at the budget envelopes given to the ministries and parastatals by the Budget Office.

Commenting on the operation of the excess crude account during a budget defence session with officials of the Ministry of Information and Communications, led by the minister, Labaran Maku, the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Information and Communications, Ayogu Eze, said instead of allowing the tiers of government to continue to operate the illegal account, the funds should be used to execute the budget so that Nigerians could enjoy the dividends of democracy.

The account was created by the administration of former President Olusegun Obasanjo, from where funds above the budget benchmark due to the rise in oil prices in the international market were saved for sharing by the three tiers of government.

But Eze told the beneficiaries of the excess funds yesterday to wait for the Sovereign Wealth Bill to be passed before they operate the account again. He said Nigerians were yearning for the dividends of democracy and their representatives in the National Assembly would do all that was necessary, including using the excess crude account to improve on their well-being.

“Those who are operating the excess crude account should wait for the Sovereign Wealth Bill to be passed. The excess crude account, as it is today, flouts the Constitution. It is illegal to keep money in an account that is unknown to the Constitution. Our people are yearning for democracy dividends and that is what we are here to give them. That money belongs to the people of this country and we should use it to deliver the dividends of democracy to them,” he insisted.

The committee also frowned at the provision of budget envelopes for ministries and parastatals by the Budget Office. It said the “mandate given to the National Assembly by Nigerians is not to be teleguided by any budget envelope when the chunk of money is kept in an illegal account.”

According to the panel’s members, the Budget Office does not have knowledge of the needs of the people like their representatives at all levels.           

“It is not a healthy practice that the budget is restricted to the Budget Office of the Executive arm of government, which is either issuing envelopes or ceiling. Our mandate is not to come and accept budget envelopes. The committees are here to scrutinise the needs of the ministries and apply what is just and not to be teleguided. We will do our work based on the reality on the ground and what we think is good for the people of this country. We are in a better position to decide what the budget should be,” the panel declared.               

Presenting the ministry’s budget, Maku said it had a ceiling of N1.8 billion, which was later reduced to N1.4 billion. He also said the capital vote presented by the ministry was equally reduced. He, however, justified the reduction of the budget by the Presidency, noting that the country was going through hard time, which required sacrifice on the part of everybody.

Maku warned against preparing budgets based on the rise in the price of oil owing to the crisis in the Middle-East, stressing that projections should be modest so that when the oil price falls, Nigeria would not be caught unaware.           

“There are shocks in the oil market. Sometimes the price rises and sometimes, it goes down very low. The wisdom of the Executive branch is that we should be modest in our projections and that is the right thing to do now. There is an increase in salaries and this will jack up the wage bill. We are taking into account emerging challenges,” he said.         

Maku explained that as part of efforts to make the country one of the most developed economies of the world in 2020, the government would soon embark on awareness campaign to make all Nigerians identify with the vision. “The Federal Executive Council (FEC) has taken a decision that from this year onwards, we should show greater commitment and sensitivity to the Vision 20:2020 and as a government, we have been conducting seminars for budget units, parastatals and implementing agencies to be sure that we factor into whatever we are going to do between now and 2020 into the national plan.       

“When I talk of supplementary budget, our ministry also has the responsibility to incorporate into our plan the mass public education for Vision 20:2020 plan, because it’s not all about government budgeting, that plan is about what citizens will do in the private sector, the community, the non-governmental organisations, what is the implication for the various sectors of the society outside government? I believe that has not been adequately realised.”
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by rebranded(m): 11:28am On Mar 01, 2011
hmm after it is depleted what a bunch of clowns!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by roymary: 1:44pm On Mar 01, 2011
Senate is also bull with their yearly outrageous demand for money. They are no good!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by campella(m): 2:07pm On Mar 01, 2011
We all know because this is not favoring their pockets
Where were they when the first part of the money was withdrawn

They are not even sure of themselves.

Give the a little bribe, and they will sign the bill allowing for the withdrawal in less than 2 days.

Bunch of thieves. undecided undecided undecided
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by trhymes(m): 2:13pm On Mar 01, 2011
Na so e dey go for Naija, i pity those that can't afford a square meal.
the Govt keeps on working on their own interest.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by otukpo(f): 2:23pm On Mar 01, 2011
When the account is already empty.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Nobody: 2:35pm On Mar 01, 2011
Band of Thieving idiots, the account is useless. Soon they will be approving for joe to borrow and soon the country will be neck deep in debt
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Nobody: 2:40pm On Mar 01, 2011
Bunch of confused and decietful crooks. They are all conspirators in theft and embezzlement. Why so long to pass the Sovereign Wealth bill thereby dangerously leaving Nigeria in limbo? This dishonest Senate has the nerve , when the ECA is virtually depleted , to "stop" withdrawal from it because "its existence is alien to Nigeria’s Constitution." If they are sincere , they should be asking Jonathan and Aganga the whereabout of the $1 billion withdrawn from the ECA as start up cash for a soveriegn Wealth fund that is still pending many months after a considerable amount of cash was removed from national 'rainy day' savings for its launch.

Dude stop whipping up sentiments here, are you insinuating the 1 billion dollars seed money used to set up the SWF is already embezzled ?, should they keep the money in your account ? please state facts not some corner bar gossip tale,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by snowdrops(m): 2:45pm On Mar 01, 2011
Simple. The next administration simply sets up another swiss account, transfer whatever change is left in the eca into the new one, then the circle continues.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ladi02(m): 2:56pm On Mar 01, 2011
man Nigeria is in a mess, and held down by the sorry leaders we elect

the sad thing is we have another chance to elect capable leaders, but people like beaf, ma_j_blige, nsiman, againstgej and co will rather keep us down

see what PDP controlled NASS has done to the country in the last 12yrs. .did they just realise the 'existence is alien to the constitution'
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Gbawe: 3:39pm On Mar 01, 2011
babasoty:

Dude stop whipping up sentiments here, are you insinuating the 1 billion dollars seed money used to set up the SWF is already embezzled ?, should they keep the money in your account ? please state facts not some corner bar gossip tale,

Precisely . Would that be out of place in Nigeria? Is corruption the norm or the exception in our Nation?  Rather you should stop defending what is not done or accepted elsewhere. It is that mentality that keeps Nigeria an abberation and a frigging basketcase in comparison to other Nations!!! What is the rush to withdraw $1 billion from the ECA for a soveriegn wealth fund that has not even scaled the legislative hurdle to ratify its existence let alone become operational? In sane Nations , would sensible citizens , aware of the civic responsibilities , not question the motives behind such a patently foolish action? In theory , the Senate could still fail to pass the Sovereign Wealth fund bill. What will then happen to the £1 billion? Where will its destination then be assuming it is still intact ? Abeg stop been an apologist for outright incompetence, corruption, dubiousness and deliberate insincerity.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by seanet02: 3:47pm On Mar 01, 2011
Gbawe:

Precisely . Would that be out of place in Nigeria? Is corruption the norm or the exception in our Nation?  Rather you should stop defending what is not done or accepted elsewhere. It is that mentality that keeps Nigeria an abberation and a frigging basketcase in comparison to other Nations!!! What is the rush to withdraw $1 billion from the ECA for a soveriegn wealth fund that has not even scaled the legislative hurdle to ratify its existence let alone become operational? In sane Nations , would sensible citizens , aware of the civic responsibilities , not question the motives behind such a patently foolish action? In theory , the Senate could still fail to pass the Sovereign Wealth fund bill. What will then happen to the £1 billion? Where will its destination then be assuming it is still intact ? Abeg stop been an apologist for outright incompetence, corruption, dubiousness and deliberate insincerity.
GBAM!!!!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Guyman02: 4:03pm On Mar 01, 2011
The Senate after overseeing the depletion of the ECA has decided to stop further withdrawals when there is almost nothing left to withdraw.
Afterall they are celebrating the release of Thief Bode George who was a beneficiary from the ECA during his tenure at NPA, where funds meant for upgrading the ports were withdrawn from the ECA and diverted, and then GEJ came and cleared the balance.
naija we hail thee!!!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by tyson55(m): 4:08pm On Mar 01, 2011
@GBAWE - True talk.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by tyson55(m): 4:20pm On Mar 01, 2011
The Legislooters are taking the Nigerian masses for fools. What else can one say here, after emptying the Eca they are now talking Jargons.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ideylaff: 4:32pm On Mar 01, 2011
The cookie Jar don empty finish, awon were were wewre were, "Mad People" grin


The Kingdom Of Our Lord will judge them all one by one. AMEN
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by tyson55(m): 4:41pm On Mar 01, 2011
@ ideylaff - How far? Long time o boy.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ideylaff: 4:42pm On Mar 01, 2011
Precisely . Would that be out of place in Nigeria? Is corruption the norm or the exception in our Nation?  Rather you should stop defending what is not done or accepted elsewhere. It is that mentality that keeps Nigeria an abberation and a frigging basketcase in comparison to other Nations!!! What is the rush to withdraw $1 billion from the ECA for a soveriegn wealth fund that has not even scaled the legislative hurdle to ratify its existence let alone become operational? In sane Nations , would sensible citizens , aware of the civic responsibilities , not question the motives behind such a patently foolish action? In theory , the Senate could still fail to pass the Sovereign Wealth fund bill. What will then happen to the £1 billion? Where will its destination then be assuming it is still intact ? Abeg stop been an apologist for outright incompetence, corruption, dubiousness and deliberate insincerity.

@ Gbawe, I feel you my bro,  you are talking sense jare,

what they are doing is like the Headmaster of a school that has not been set up taking school fees of you with a promise to admit your son/daughter. where will he deposit the money you give him,  "Personal Account",  trust me, I have bn privy to all the dodgy stuff that goes on within the 9ija system over the years, Awon Ole buruku,


I can bet my bottom dollar that an account has been opened for that $1Billion and its been doing the rounds all over the place accruing interest for someone or a group 4 personal gain., theyreturn the money if alarm blows, if it does not, thats the end of the fund. In Nigeria, no amount is too big to disappear,  I see raw dollars in Nija like I've never even seen on the streets in the States, its so unreal and scary ,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Nobody: 4:43pm On Mar 01, 2011
babasoty:

Dude stop whipping up sentiments here, are you insinuating the 1 billion dollars seed money used to set up the SWF is already embezzled ?, should they keep the money in your account ? please state facts not some corner bar gossip tale,

^^ I GUESS YA PAPA IS ONE OF THE THIEVING SENATOR HENCE YOUR AUDACITY TO COME AND SPEW TRASH IN THE FORUM! NEMESIS WILL SOON CATCH YOU! IDI-OT! ANIMAL! COCKROACH!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by johnjoel(m): 4:47pm On Mar 01, 2011
bunch of thief
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ideylaff: 4:48pm On Mar 01, 2011
^ I GUESS YA PAPA IS ONE OF THE THIEVING SENATOR HENCE YOUR AUDACITY TO COME AND SPEW TRASH IN THE FORUM! NEMESIS WILL SOON CATCH YOU! IDI-OT! ANIMAL! COCKROACH

abi ooooo, of all things to defend, something that is blatantly transparent as outright rule breaking with corruption added to it, , anyway you always have people who justify the ills of the society, its a shame we cannot all think the same way, when it comes to bad things within the system

@ babasoty , na wah oooooo How can you call open dodgyness within the polity Corner bar gossip,  grin

Bn Privy to what obtains, in the system, nothing stops Aganga from moving that money to a fund manager outside the country since he's worked within that sphere b4,  (he can justify it with some financial legal law that is open to debate,

Foreign Fund Investment manager gets bonus over the deposit, squares all those within the know of the deal + interest accrued on top as well, Alarm blows money is sent back . Simple AS,  but already money has worked for the people in the know, in a dodgy way and they will always quote 1 law /rule to justify it,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ziccoit: 5:04pm On Mar 01, 2011
Huh, I am happy everybody is, so fa,r sensible here except for a goat. This is really hard to come by nowaday on nairaland. The conspirators shall never know peace. Amen O 0 o o.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by scatayan: 5:14pm On Mar 01, 2011
How many times should I say it? We have reached that point in our nationhood when we all should go out there to steal as much money as you can lay your hands on. This entity is so stupendously rich that no matter what you steal, the ocean shall not notice.

This much, the likes of Bode George discovered a long time ago. Obasanjo made a mistake as a soldier, and came back as a civilian to correct it. Now, no generation of his family shal ever go hungry like you nairalanders.

Go out and steal! That way, we all shall become rich. And perhaps, [size=36pt][/size]
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Delible(m): 6:05pm On Mar 01, 2011
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How many times should I say it? We have reached that point in our nationhood when we all should go out there to steal as much money as you can lay your hands on. This entity is so stupendously rich that no matter what you steal, the ocean shall not notice.

This much, the likes of Bode George discovered a long time ago. Obasanjo made a mistake as a soldier, and came back as a civilian to correct it. Now, no generation of his family shal ever go hungry like you nairalanders.

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GBAM. Let us scatter everything and start afresh.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Gbawe: 6:10pm On Mar 01, 2011
ideylaff:

abi ooooo, of all things to defend, something that is blatantly transparent as outright rule breaking with corruption added to it, , anyway you always have people who justify the ills of the society, its a shame we cannot all think the same way, when it comes to bad things within the system @ babasoty , na wah oooooo How can you call open dodgyness within the polity Corner bar gossip,  grin

Bn Privy to what obtains, in the system, nothing stops Aganga from moving that money to a fund manager outside the country since he's worked within that sphere b4,  (he can justify it with some financial legal law that is open to debate,

Foreign Fund Investment manager gets bonus over the deposit, squares all those within the know of the deal + interest accrued on top as well, Alarm blows money is sent back . Simple AS,  but already money has worked for the people in the know, in a dodgy way and they will always quote 1 law /rule to justify it,




Abi OOOO. My broda , thanks for educating those seeking to hold brief for practices that would be unacceptable in any Nation on Earth with an ethical and half-serious Government in place instead of common opportunists, 'chancers' and scammers . It is bad enough a few do as they please with Nigeria's wealth. Worse that many Nigerians are now even too apathetic or permanently cynical to care but it is unforgivable for any sane Nigerian to make excuses for what the GEJ Government is doing.  Even his own Presidential advice committee reprimanded GEJ's government severely for waste , profligacy and a distinct and reckless disdain for doing what is right for the economy with how the Jonathan Government raises reccurrent expenditure when virtually every expert , home and abroad, is saying reccurent expenditure must be reduced so that more cash is available to be deployed towards important sectors ilike infrastructural development, health, education , etc , etc  

Your theory about the $1 billion , below, is spot on . This is why I keep hoping that Nigerians will demand , in the spirit of accountability and transparency, to know the whereabout of the $1 billion. You cannot just withdraw such an amount in cash without having a legally  ordained destination for it !!! This aint monopoly Game Money they are playing with!!! The money will most likely be used to enrich some folks with semi-legal sharps practices that is , at the very least, morally reprehensible and not to be seen from any honest Government that is a departure from those of the past in Nigeria who cynically used every opportunity to enrich the 'insiders' . We have seen it before. Aganga is also the guy to pull such a thing off. As you posit , if there is no 'noise' about the $1 billion then it will simply be shared amongst 'awon boys'.


I can bet my bottom dollar that an account has been opened for that $1Billion and its been doing the rounds all over the place accruing interest for someone or a group 4 personal gain., theyreturn the money if alarm blows, if it does not, thats the end of the fund. In Nigeria, no amount is too big to disappear,  I see raw dollars in Nija like I've never even seen on the streets in the States, its so unreal and scary ,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ideylaff: 6:15pm On Mar 01, 2011
This much, the likes of Bode George discovered a long time ago. Obasanjo made a mistake as a soldier, and came back as a civilian to correct it. Now, no generation of his family shal ever go hungry like you nairalanders.
,

4 where.  ; OBJ made money as Soldier oooo, not just ordinary money sef, he enacted the Operaton Feed The Nation act to benefit himself with the land he started OTA farm on,  then also gave Andrew Young and all his UN Atlanta USA Posse life long image rights contracts,

He only went broke during the Abacha days Cos Abacha fights his enemies like Cancer/Canker Worm,  he wrecks u personally and financially

We dey siddon dey look as den dey do awa country, for the last 50 years, The soldiers are not any better than the politicians, even worse now that they have changed their Khaki Uniform to agbada, 

Only GOD will judge them, I Pray,

So much Potential , So much Lost,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by Parnassuss(m): 6:17pm On Mar 01, 2011
Guyman02:

The Senate after overseeing the depletion of the ECA has decided to stop further withdrawals when there is almost nothing left to withdraw.
Afterall they are celebrating the release of Thief Bode George who was a beneficiary from the ECA during his tenure at NPA, where funds meant for upgrading the ports were withdrawn from the ECA and diverted, and then GEJ came and cleared the balance.
naija we hail thee!!!

You have TALKED it all !!!
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by ideylaff: 6:27pm On Mar 01, 2011
@ Gbawe thank ooooo

talking about semi legal dodgy deals,

El Rufai recruited 6 Consultants from the states and was paying above the norm fees during his duration as FCT Minister and he defended it when he was accused saying they are Nigerians but are expatriates with rare skills.

I mean when you start to pay 25 to 35 year olds over 100K a pop b'cos they went to Harvard for some short course and yet have no experience,  can u just imagine that. 2 of them were his cousins and El Rufai is really meant to be one of the less chop all of the Professionals who seem to have a holier than the rest of the PDP boys kinda persona to himself,

Those Aganga Glasses that I'm seeing, Hmmmmmmmm,  lipsrsealed with that gap teeth,

Nzozi Iwealla also appointed her family members to do some kind of invisible research/debt chasing consultancy for The Finance Ministry as well when she was The Minister. The evne had d same surnames as well sef

Even Soludo flooded CBN with his kins men all doing nothing while he was there, 1 position of consultancy to another, nothing delivered

They are all the same,  some just leave some cookies in the jar while some eat all the cookies,
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by 9ijaMan: 6:29pm On Mar 01, 2011
These sinators are really taking Nigerians for a jolly ride. Stopping the withdrawal of funds from an almost empty account. These crazy bunch at the national assembly must really think Nigerians are still living in the stone ages.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by 1025: 6:50pm On Mar 01, 2011
what we need at this moment is not name calling rather we need to make sure that Buhari/Bakare are brought on board for these gangsters to vomit all these funds.
if pdp continues after april polls, nigeria will face hunger crises like a country in war - God forbid.
let us say no to pdp and work for change otherwise, our name will be - SORRY.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by alldone(m): 7:37pm On Mar 01, 2011
if the money is spent for a just cost.it is ok.
Re: Senate Stops Withdrawal From Excess Crude Account . by hilli666(m): 8:56pm On Mar 01, 2011
Gbawe:

Precisely . Would that be out of place in Nigeria? Is corruption the norm or the exception in our Nation? Rather you should stop defending what is not done or accepted elsewhere. It is that mentality that keeps Nigeria an abberation and a frigging basketcase in comparison to other Nations!!! What is the rush to withdraw $1 billion from the ECA for a soveriegn wealth fund that has not even scaled the legislative hurdle to ratify its existence let alone become operational? In sane Nations , would sensible citizens , aware of the civic responsibilities , not question the motives behind such a patently foolish action? In theory , the Senate could still fail to pass the Sovereign Wealth fund bill. What will then happen to the £1 billion? Where will its destination then be assuming it is still intact ? Abeg stop been an apologist for outright incompetence, corruption, dubiousness and deliberate insincerity.
Dude I like your logic think you are my new friend on NL. We might disagree tomorrow, and I might call you name then but for now I tip my hat off to you.

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