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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Dadaboy: 7:52am On Dec 20, 2020
Mumu people
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by NaijaOlosho(f): 7:53am On Dec 20, 2020
Nnamdi Kanu is one of them kiss
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by eghuan1(m): 7:54am On Dec 20, 2020
I sha know they were not from Eastern Nigeria
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by kokomilala(m): 7:54am On Dec 20, 2020
They were star gazers, astrologers,with some modicum of piety.They were also philosophers.Mesopotamia was the centre of learning then alongside Egypt.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by colestephan86: 7:55am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Who Were Those Wise Men From The East?

Matthew 2:1-2 (KJV)

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.


Now not much was said about these wise men, but there must have been something unusual about them to have been able to know about the birth of Jesus, and then come all the way down from the East just to worship Him. Because even those that were in the land where Jesus was born didn't even know about His birth that the news about Jesus birth appeared to surprise them.

Matthew 2:3-6 (KJV)

When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.


So not just the King, but even the chief priests and scribes of the people, who knew what was said concerning Him by the prophet, were unaware that the King of the Jews had been born. But the wise men from the East knew and they had come all the way from the East to worship Him. And they kept following His star which they had seen in the East, until it brought them to the place where the little child was.

Matthew 2:10-11 (KJV)

When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.


So who were these wise men who had knowledge of the birth of Jesus the King of the Jews and the promised Messiah, that would compel them to come all the way from the East so that they would worship Him?

From the little said concerning them, the wise men were without a doubt prophet or men of God, whom God had sent from the East, to pay His only begotten Son a respect worthy of not just a king but the King of Kings, despite that He was yet a little child and lay in a lowly manger.

For it's not that easy for grown-up men to bow down and worship their fellow man, how much more a baby who lay in a lowly manger?

But this particular gesture of the wise men to baby Jesus, gives an idea of the spiritual level that these men walked in despite not emerging from the nation of Israel. They more or less acted like little children of whom Jesus said "of such is the kingdom of God." Matthew 10:14

So God was the One that revealed those things about baby Jesus to the "babes" also known as the wise men from the East, and had used a star to guide them to where baby Jesus was at the time of His birth, even the star which they followed until they got to where the baby was.

It was the same God that revealed to them the birth of His only begotten Son Jesus, that appeared to them in a dream to warn them about not getting back to King Herod concerning their discovery because he had ulterior motives concerning the new born King.

Matthew 2:12 (KJV)

And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.

So the wise men had obeyed the voice of God who sent them there and departed back to the East where they had come from through another way, after accomplishing the task that God had given them concerning His only begotten Son Jesus who was born in a manger.

And Jesus grew up to become a Man Mighty both in the Word and Works of God, that He'd without a shadow of a doubt, became the greatest and most influential Man to ever grace this planet. Hence He has worshipped by many a men after He grew up and became the man that He was, and that has continued unabated up til this very day.

However only a few men could ever boast of falling down and worshipping Jesus while He still a baby and yet lay in a lowly manger, when He hadn't accomplished any of those feats.

And they were the wise men from the East.

God bless.
They are men dem from ANAMBRA

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by illicit(m): 7:55am On Dec 20, 2020
Magis....

Not kings
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by kokomilala(m): 7:58am On Dec 20, 2020
@sonmvayina,please read the Bible well.They were never 3 .They were a company.This error of 3 wise men has been going on for ages.

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by mosegifted: 8:00am On Dec 20, 2020
Karlovich:
According to ancient scrolls one of them was the real father of the baby, but because DNA wasn't available then it was difficult to tell which one it was.

Lol... Easy mehn, we already have lots of quote up there to crack our head with

Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by OwoukoUrua(m): 8:01am On Dec 20, 2020
All I have to say is "HAPPY SUNDAY"
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by fadigalfemi(m): 8:01am On Dec 20, 2020
[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=97238418]What evidence are you talking about?

Do you have any idea who called those men wise men?

It was Matthew a disciple of Jesus not some worldly person or gentile, and for Matthew to do so that means they were wise men in God's sight just as the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

So that means they were wise men granted wisdom and understanding by God not the devil. And it was this same God gave them that wisdom that revealed to them the Truth about the birth of His only begotten Son Jesus and how to track Him so that they could reverence Him.

So wherever you got this evidence is not of the Truth but from a completely false source.

Your idea of a conspiracy with Herod is also false because Herod lied to them that he wanted that information because he wanted to also worship Him. And you also contradict yourself when you said that Herod had a secret plan to exterminate the Messiah, so where's the conspiracy there with the wise men but the figment of your imagination and those who imagine such a baseless and unfounded thing?

Or was it a conspiracy to worship King Jesus if genuine?

God was the One that led them with the star to where His only begotten Son lay, if not God would have stopped them before they got there after Herod had asked them to reveal the place to him. But God didn't til after the star had led them to where He was so that they'd worship Him, because the purpose He sent them had been accomplished. This should be a mature discussion not the one anger and clouded judgement
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Donspicey: 8:04am On Dec 20, 2020
Karlovich:
According to ancient scrolls one of them was the real father of the baby, but because DNA wasn't available then it was difficult to tell which one it was.

Chaiiiiiii.....

Anoda Shocker......


Bro try wash ur brain e dey gv u wrong information......

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by emmy512: 8:05am On Dec 20, 2020
My issue with us Christians is how we read the Bible and try to comprehend things that are above us.
The Bible has gone through different translations and with that meaning is lost.
Yes It was inspiration from God that helped different people write parts of the Bible. Was it still God that requested for translation?
When King James ordered the translation of Bible I believe it was a freemason/ Rosicrucian called Francis bacon that started the project.
Many other translation were based of King James and I have had two Bible's hand in hand and they both changed words that in context could mean different things.
...
Like someone above said, the word Maggi has many meanings and it mostly depends on who you ask where they're from and their own personal beliefs.
Sango the god of thunder in Yoruba folklore would be classified by another tribe or person as just a normal deity or go as far to attributes evil to the name
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Donspicey: 8:07am On Dec 20, 2020
emmy512:
My issue with us Christians is how we read the Bible and try to comprehend things that are above us.
The Bible has gone through different translations and with that meaning is lost.
Yes It was inspiration from God that helped different people write parts of the Bible. Was it still God that requested for translation?
When King James ordered the translation of Bible I believe it was a freemason/ Rosicrucian called Francis bacon that started the project.
Many other translation were based of King James and I have had two Bible's hand in hand and they both changed words that in context could mean different things.
...

So which is Apt?
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Dec 20, 2020
Back in Bible times anyone having to do with hearing from the spirit realms is referred to as "Wiseman" that's why King Nebuchadnezzar gathered all of them in his kingdom to tell him the meaning of his dream. Daniel 2:2
Daniel who was God's prophet by then was also affected because everyone knew that he also do hear from the spirit realms! Daniel 2:13-14

The east is the cradle of all spiritistic acts, that's why God asked Abraham to leave that place! Genesis 12:1

Since God has called out Abraham the east remains in opposition to God's people because Satan is the chief agent of all spiritistic acts and he doesn't want pure worship to flourish. That's why he (Satan) always set his mind on Jerusalem to profane and mock pure worship! Psalms 137:1-5

Nebuchadnezzar's idea of a statue for worship came through Satanic inspiration in order to force everyone (including God's people) worship images which the true God detests! Daniel 3:1-7 compared to Exodus 20:4-5

So just as Satan manipulated Nebuchadnezzar to attack pure worship he produced the star to lead the wise men from Babylon to Herod so that Jesus could be killed, but God stepped in by telling those men not to return to Herod, they would have returned and direct Herod to where the baby is if God did not intervene. Of course those wise men came with good intentions but the spirit directing them (Satan) only want to use them as bait for Herod to get Jesus killed!

May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Nobody: 8:09am On Dec 20, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Back in Bible times anyone having to do with hearing from the spirit realms is referred to as "Wiseman" that's why King Nebuchadnezzar gathered all of them in his kingdom to tell him the meaning of his dream. Daniel 2:2
Daniel who was God's prophet by then was also affected because everyone knew that he also do hear from the spirit realms! Daniel 2:13-14

The east is the cradle of all spiritistic acts, that's why God asked Abraham to leave that place! Genesis 12:1

Since God has called out Abraham the east remains in opposition to God's people because Satan is the chief agent of all spiritistic acts and he doesn't want pure worship to flourish. That's why he (Satan) always set his mind on Jerusalem to profane pure worship!

Nebuchadnezzar's idea of a statue for worship came through Satanic inspiration in order to force everyone (including God's people) worship images which the true God detests! Daniel 3:1-7 compared to Exodus 20:4-5

So just as Satan manipulated Nebuchadnezzar to attack pure worship he produced the star to lead the wise men from Babylon to Herod so that Jesus could be killed, but God stepped in by telling those men not to return to Herod, they would have returned and direct Herod to where the baby is if God did not intervene. Of course those wise men came with good intentions but the spirit directing them (Satan) only want to use them as bait for Herod to get Jesus killed!

May you have PEACE! smiley

OK
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by JoeEeL(m): 8:09am On Dec 20, 2020
Your problem in Nigeria, y'all, is that you believe too much in fables!

Wise men from the East ko, wise mongrels from the Sahel ni.

Fulanis are in your towns and villages ransacking, raping and killing.

Just this week, Fulani atrocities were recorded in both Southern Kaduna and Benin. 2 weeks ago, it was Edo. The government has been supporting these guys; pogroms premeditatedly going on, and that war is finally here.

Yet una dey discuss wise men from the East wey una no see. Single sense, una no get.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Uyi168: 8:13am On Dec 20, 2020
michresakidjo:
according to history, The three wise men mentioned in the Bible were Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism is the first religion.. it predates both Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
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Bible didn't state they were three..
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MrNipplesLover(m): 8:13am On Dec 20, 2020
father, you're the wisest, the most knowledgeable.


thank you, Almighty. ❤❤❤
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by WhoIBe: 8:14am On Dec 20, 2020
Who Were Those Wise Men From The East?
Those Wise Men From The East were the Wise Men From The East.

What other explanation do u need, i think anything other than this is mere assumption / false rumour.

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Pacesetter123(m): 8:19am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
What evidence are you talking about?

Do you have any idea who called those men wise men?

It was Matthew a disciple of Jesus not some worldly person or gentile, and for Matthew to do so that means they were wise men in God's sight just as the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

So that means they were wise men granted wisdom and understanding by God not the devil. And it was this same God gave them that wisdom that revealed to them the Truth about the birth of His only begotten Son Jesus and how to track Him so that they could reverence Him.

So wherever you got this evidence is not of the Truth but from a completely false source.

Your idea of a conspiracy with Herod is also false because Herod lied to them that he wanted that information because he wanted to also worship Him. And you also contradict yourself when you said that Herod had a secret plan to exterminate the Messiah, so where's the conspiracy there with the wise men but the figment of your imagination and those who imagine such a baseless and unfounded thing?

Or was it a conspiracy to worship King Jesus if genuine?

God was the One that led them with the star to where His only begotten Son lay, if not God would have stopped them before they got there after Herod had asked them to reveal the place to him. But God didn't til after the star had led them to where He was so that they'd worship Him, because the purpose He sent them had been accomplished.
I toed ur line of thought!

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Nobody: 8:20am On Dec 20, 2020
Ojukwu, Nnamdi kalu and me
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by EhisChelsea1(m): 8:22am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
What evidence are you talking about?

Do you have any idea who called those men wise men?

It was Matthew a disciple of Jesus not some worldly person or gentile, and for Matthew to do so that means they were wise men in God's sight just as the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

So that means they were wise men granted wisdom and understanding by God not the devil. And it was this same God gave them that wisdom that revealed to them the Truth about the birth of His only begotten Son Jesus and how to track Him so that they could reverence Him.

So wherever you got this evidence is not of the Truth but from a completely false source.

Your idea of a conspiracy with Herod is also false because Herod lied to them that he wanted that information because he wanted to also worship Him. And you also contradict yourself when you said that Herod had a secret plan to exterminate the Messiah, so where's the conspiracy there with the wise men but the figment of your imagination and those who imagine such a baseless and unfounded thing?

Or was it a conspiracy to worship King Jesus if genuine?

God was the One that led them with the star to where His only begotten Son lay, if not God would have stopped them before they got there after Herod had asked them to reveal the place to him. But God didn't til after the star had led them to where He was so that they'd worship Him, because the purpose He sent them had been accomplished.

Sir, you are not entirely right in this your assertion. The wise men were astrologers, people who study the celestial bodies so as to predict events. It is a practice that the old testament warned the Israelite against....

You would see also that the star didn't lead them directly to Jesus in the first place but to Herod. Now why would the star lead them to a man that would want to kill the young child? That should tell you it wasn't from God. It was from satan. It was a ploy to get the young child killed. They obviously didnt know satans intention. In the course of heir stud of thr stars, they saw the appearance of a strange star, different from others, studied it and realised a great man have bn born and they embark on a journey to worship that great man

The Wise men (they are not 3. The bible never said 3. That they presented 3 kinds of gifts to Jesus doesn't make them 3 persons) were not bad men. They were not conspirators neither were there any intent in them to harm or conspire with Herod to harm the child..... All they did was to inquire from Herod being thr king am sure supposing the new baby to be from the kings lineage....

So the term wise men in ancient time was not just for people who fear God but people who understand times and season, philosophers, people who can predict the future and events among others and these men definitely fit into this category.....

You also will realise that this event occurred about 2-3 or 5 years after the birth of Jesus. And they visited Jesus in Joseph house, not in the manger where he was born.... (You can confirm this from the age of the children Herod ordered to be killed).... This tells you they took time to study the star and to understand it. If they were prophets as alleged by you, it won't take that long. It will be a simple message. But these were not Prophets but astrologers whose occupation was studying of the celestial bodies

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by PROPHETmichael: 8:22am On Dec 20, 2020
The Three Wise Men were evil men.

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by victorazyvictor(m): 8:22am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Keep your false JW translation to yourself!

They were wise men from the East. The same East that produced the likes of Job, Abraham who walked with God, and where the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego were showcased by God.

Stop believing lies!

And Igbos who are doing wonders in Nigeria smiley
jesusjnr2020:
Keep your false JW translation to yourself!

They were wise men from the East. The same East that produced the likes of Job, Abraham who walked with God, and where the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego were showcased by God.

Stop believing lies!

And Igbos who are doing wonders in Nigeria
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Abagworo(m): 8:22am On Dec 20, 2020
Three Chinese men
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by IYANGBALI: 8:23am On Dec 20, 2020
Mazi Okafor, Mazi Obinna and Mazi Okoro
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Dec 20, 2020
NO! NO!! NO!!! embarassed
They were not evil at all, remember they brought costly gifts to baby Jesus!
The fact that one is born bread and brought up in paganism doesn't mean such a person is evil, it's just that that's what their ancestors practice and they don't know anything better! undecided

PROPHETmichael:
The Three Wise Men were evil men.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by explosiveskull(m): 8:30am On Dec 20, 2020
sonmvayina:


Christianity and islam maybe, but not judaism. Except if there was any evidence of it before 530BC.
Don't you know it was Jethro who moses sought refuge from wwhen he ran from egypt that taught him most of the religious things he thought Israel. Jethro was a high priest hope you know? Moses married one of his daughters and she was referred to as a cushite and in hebrew cush means black or dark coloured, it means moses married a black woman and the origin of judaism is from africa.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by EhisChelsea1(m): 8:37am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
When you lie and falsify things concerning Christ the Messiah, as the JWs are well known for, what do you expect?

Those men were "wise men"! Whichever source you dug that your whatever from cannot be more authentic than the translation given in King James Version. You have obvious reasons why you discredit it because it exposes your lies!

By the way, the other ideas you also brought up have been debunked like "the wise men" conspired with Herod".

Stop believing lies.

You'd eventually end up where all liars do.


A wise man is not synonymous with godly man or prophet in the Bible... Always remember this please..... Astrologers, magicians, philosophers and the kings advisers were all referred ti as wise men in the Bible

Check the story of Pharaoh when he had a dream and needed interpretation... He called on ''the wise men''. Same thing with the kings of Babylon.... So these heathen kings had people in their services who the bibke referred to as WISE MEN and they were not godly men...they were diviners
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by DelphiOracle(m): 8:38am On Dec 20, 2020
DappaD:
OP I'm sorry but your conclusions do not corroborate with the evidence given. How could God have been the one to reveal details about the Messiah to the so-called “wise men” in question?

First of all, those “wise men” practiced magic and they were stargazers. This was something abominable from God's standpoint. Leviticus 20:6, Deuteronomy 18:10-12

So God couldn't have been the person responsible for the “star” that led those astrologers since it's well documented in the Mosaic Law that God's people must never be drawn/inclined to worship or receive direction from the celestial bodies. (Deuteronomy 4:19 see also Isaiah 47:13)

Secondly, this “star” led these “wise men” to Jerusalem. Then after meeting with Herod, he inquired of the Jewish scribes the location of the birth of the Messiah. (Matthew 2:4-6 see also Micah 5:2)
Herod then conspired with the “wise men” to locate the Messiah in Bethlehem. Meanwhile Herod himself had set up a plan to exterminate this “Messiah” because he didn't want to tolerate rivalry.

If it was truly God who sent this “star”, why would the same God intervene by warning them not to return to Herod? Matthew 2:12?

Why would God be the cause of the deaths of many children because of a “star”? Obviously the “star” wasn't from divine origin because God cannot cause such a wicked thing to happen. Matthew 2:16 see also Job 34:10
well said. Are u one of Jehovah's witnesses?
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by sagieramos(m): 8:39am On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Keep your false JW translation to yourself!

They were wise men from the East. The same East that produced the likes of Job, Abraham who walked with God, and where the likes of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego were showcased by God.

Stop believing lies!

Oga the first time I saw this evidence it wasn't from JW, although, I got more insight later from JW online library. But come to think of it, why do people attribute every truth told to JWs?

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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by showafrica(m): 8:42am On Dec 20, 2020
michresakidjo:
according to history, The three wise men mentioned in the Bible were Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism is the first religion.. it predates both Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

The three wise men from the east wear simply Ipob members from Biafra the land of the rising sun.

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