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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by umuna(m): 1:28pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:During that period, magicians were called wise men |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by DappaD: 1:33pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
engrchykae: So let me get this straight—because Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to participate in politics, they're the cause of the problems humans are facing right? Oga I already told you not to get emotional about these things. See who is telling me to be open-minded. The Witness you claim you spoke to, didn't he give you Bible-based answers that supports our stand? John 17:14-16,18:36 ??
Please what are you talking about? Are you sure it was one of dedicated and baptized Jehovah's Witnesses you spoke to? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by engrchykae(m): 1:35pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Janosky:when Samuel appeared, Samuel told Saul that God have rejected him (Saul)why is Saul disturbing him. It's Samuel,about sons of God,deeper lifers said it's backslidden believers who married sinners and therefore gave birth to giants.lol so if a Christian marries an unbeliever,they will give birth to a giant offsprings. How dumb. Anyway you seem open-minded. Have a nice Sunday |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Janosky: 1:41pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
engrchykae: Bros, shalom.. In many Bible versions, it reads " a god" (demon for sure..) was conjured to speak to Saul. Even though na another person, Saul won't mind, he was that desperate. At that moment, he was desperate to find out the outcome of the forthcoming battle with the Philistines.. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by sonmvayina(m): 1:50pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DonCortino: That is what the text says...not history. Ezra wrote the torah. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by freetheking: 1:56pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
michresakidjo:please note that the bible did not mention three Wise men, but Wise men from the East. 1 Like |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by 1nairaland: 1:56pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:You are defending false information blindly, go read your Bible properly. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by DappaD: 2:02pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Janosky: Satan and his demons have several tactics and devices(2Cor 2:11,11:13-15) and demons are known for speaking half-truths so I don't get what the guy is so worked up about. For example, the servant girl who had the power to foretell the future in Paul's time did so with the help of demons. You'll notice that she kept pestering Paul and Silas and was drawing attention to them so that opposers would be aware of their whereabouts. Acts 16:16-19 So my brother, wasn't it already obvious that Saul had lost the upcoming battle against the Philistines since Jehovah was no more on his side? If we're to go by engrchykae's analogy, why would Jehovah now subject his own prophet to a debased condition and give replies to someone who had deviated from his way through means that are abominable to God? Deuteronomy 18:10-12? I'm not sure it was a baptized Witness engrchykae had a discussion with if not all of these would have been panned out. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by 99thEnemy(m): 2:08pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by joefelin2345: 2:13pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:I concur with you my brother/sister. Astronomers I once told only study stars but astrologers not only study stars but relate their findings to human affairs. The wise men visit to me confirm the Universality of our Lord Jesus Christ. God can choose any one as His Oracle. He is a Sovereign God and does not discriminate. He said that he would bless whoever he chooses to bless-period. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Omoslim26: 2:22pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
To those up there saying 3 wise men the Bible never gave a figure of the men it only accounted the gifts they brought for the Chosen Prince of News |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Omoslim26: 2:23pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
To those up there saying 3 wise men the Bible never gave a figure of the men it only accounted the gifts they brought for the Chosen Prince of Peace |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 2:37pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
benji93:Because it's foolish to learn something false. Worst still, to humble one's self to do so. I had to humble myself to learn this Truth and not the lies that most of you believe. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:54pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Time to teach you how to read God's word with meditation! Q Who is our Creator? A. JEHOVAH! Q. Who always speaks first to humans? A. JEHOVAH! Q. Who often disguise as angel of light? A. Satan! Adam and Eve, Cain, Pharaoh, David, Solomon, Nebuchadnezzar, Jesus, Peter and so many others first of all receive information from God either directly through hearing, dreams or visions before Satan comes to mislead them! It's only those who becomes victorious by discerning which spirit is engaging them that we know as men of God! Adam and Eve both knew God as their counselor until Satan came to speak to them! Genesis 3:1-5 Cain knew God as his Creator before Satan took advantage of his envy! Genesis 4:3, 7 Pharaoh had a dream from God {Genesis 41:28} but Pharaoh was a pagan! Genesis 40:22 David was the inspired Psalmist yet Satan spoke to him! 1Chronicles 21:1 Solomon was given a lot of wisdom yet Satan got him to worship Idols! 1Kings 11:4 Nebuchadnezzar received a dream about the endtime from God {Daniel 2:1-45} yet Satan incited the same King to establish false worship! Daniel 3:1-7 Jesus was taken to the wilderness by God's holy spirit {Luke 4:1} but after God's holy spirit concluded with Jesus Satan came to tempt him {Luke 4:2} when Satan found out that Jesus is filled with God's holy spirit he left Jesus only to wait until another convenient time! Luke 4:13 Peter received a revelation from God regarding the identity of Jesus {Matthew 16:16-17} Satan took over Peter to speak to Jesus! Matthew 16:23 So because God revealed something to someone doesn't mean Satan can't take over such a person! Pacesetter123: 1 Like |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by peacenow: 2:57pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
michresakidjo:Nooooooooooooo Check this out as proof: Men Of Issachar These were the wise men from tribe of issachar who were Israelites 1 Chronicles 12: 31-32 …31From the half-tribe of Manasseh: 18,000 designated by name to come and make David king. 32[b]From Issachar, men who understood the times and knew what Israel should do:[/b][/b][i][/i] 200 chiefs with all their kinsmen at their command.33From Zebulun: 50,000 fit for service, trained for battle with all kinds of weapons of war, who with one purpose were devoted to David.… 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:05pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
haddeylium:I already killed that question because it is foolish to use the single factor of a man's motive to come to conclusions about God, hence no need for that. That how you also try to justify the lie that hell fire doesn't exist so I'm not surprised. The star in the sky was now from an evil source because of Herod's decision to kill babies. So what about the fact that it made the men to sacrificially leave their abode far away in the East with the genuine intention to worship the new born King? Does that make the star good? That shows how lost you are. If they were evil or led by an evil source, God wouldn't have allowed them to accomplish their task of worshipping the King of Kings. He only warned them after they had done so because it was in accordance with His plan. You're only drawing conclusions from false assumptions. Your claim that the star misled the wise men of God is completely false, because it led them to where the Messiah and King was! You really need the star right now, because you're being led astray and far away from the Truth which He is. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:09pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
1nairaland:It's not by how much of reading the Bible, but coming to knowledge of the Truth which could only be revealed to man by God. That's how my position came about. You don't have to agree with it. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by sonmvayina(m): 3:13pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
What if mary was actually raped by a roman soldier? And she and joseph had to leave town for the birth since she would have been found out that she was pregnant before her marriage rite with joseph was concluded. Those that not look like a more possible cause of her pregnancy rather than saying god did it. We know that is not possible. No prophet ever prophesied that was going to happen. Its the holiday season, why not look at the story again, this time with at least 5% Of our brain.. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Nobody: 3:22pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Zoroastrianism contains both monotheistic and dualistic features. It likely influenced the other major religions—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. 1 Like |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:24pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:You lied! It's because your false accusation of the wise men of God was clearly exposed, otherwise you'd have continued with your lies as you're doing so with the others. I'm not surprised that there are many commentators here who agree with your position. In fact i'm even surprised of the amount of those who have agreed with mine because I know the position of many Christians about this. I know how you got misled about the wise men, even though you didn't want to state it. It was a recent thread that a pastor's wife called them spies. Imagine someone who's leading people speaking so ignorantly and misleading people about the wise men of God, how much more the followers? So I didn't expect much persons here to agree with my position, but something you should know about me is that i'm not here to speak what people including Christians would agree to, but the Truth. That's the purpose of this thread. To speak the Truth about the wise men of God for those who cared to listen. So you can keep your many commentators who share in your false beliefs. I stand with the Truth! |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:29pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Dagz007: Unfortunately i'm not a knowledge seeker as you. I'm a Truth seeker. And knowledge of the Truth doesn't come by learning but by obedience of the Word of God. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Vinesee: 3:33pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
The wise men from the East are the IGBOS, period. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by haddeylium(m): 3:49pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020: Killed what question? Take it slowly, the star didn't lead them to Bethlehem first, but to king Herod which is the Messiah dangerous enemy and their visit resulted in the mass slaughter of innocent infants. They're obviously not servants or worshipers of the true God. Would you say otherwise? The Obsscience/worship they did makes them God's servant? That's cheap. Even demons and unclean spirit did the same to him. That does not mean they're not devil's agent! Think! After they left Jehovah’s angel warned Joseph to flee to Egypt to safeguard the child. Now,was that “star” a sign from God or was it from someone who was seeking to have God’s Son(The Messiah) destroyed? |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by aysuprano(m): 4:14pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
michresakidjo: Bro I'm just hearing about this Zoroastrianism for the first time and I just read about it, I swear there are lot of things hidden from us o |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by naijadrivablog: 4:32pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
The three wise men are Igbos. Iffa hear
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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by DappaD: 4:59pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
I don't contend with proud, hateful and blind religious bigots. It's obvious from this thread that you've been severely schooled on the topic and you only want to save your pitiful face. jesusjnr2020: 1 Like |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:32pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Maybe you think I'm someone that could be schooled by false teachers like you. I could only be schooled by teachers of the Truth not lies. So when next you want to sell your lies, take it somewhere else because i'm not interested. At least your false accusation against the wise men of God that they conspired with Herod against Jesus has been destroyed, so you can no longer hold on to it. You've been hence schooled by a teacher of the Truth. That alone justifies this thread. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Pacesetter123(m): 5:32pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
LilBlaze24o:Bro,I thank God we are all Bible students.Lets look at this analogy,a Christian missionary went to moslem dominated community to preach the gospel.After some days,he discovered dat dere is a cheistian family in dat community.He went into that family to go n rest.Behold,moslem irate youths were in search of the missionary to kill him.They later discovered that the missionary was taking refuge in that christian home.They went in dere to kill de missionary,but unfortunately to them,de man has already left for another area to continue preaching.They instead killed everybody in that christian family since they couldn't find the man.Now the question is; will u then attribute the mission of dat Christian to preach the gospel of Christ in dat community as an act of satan cos it has led to the killing of innocent christian family? 1 Like |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by DappaD: 5:39pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
It's okay I've heard you loud and clear sir. jesusjnr2020: |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Pacesetter123(m): 5:42pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
thebosstrevor1:Wot about the children of Issachar that were also called wisemen,were they called wisemen (men that av understandings of times and seasons) simply because they were Astronomies? Daniel, Solomon,Aithophel wer all considered wisemen even though they weren't Astrologers.Their wisdom came from inspiration from God.So don't draw conclusion that the three wisemen were called "wisemen" because they were Astrologers.Their wisdom might av as well comes from God. |
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by michresakidjo(m): 6:17pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
aysuprano: a lot sir...I was shocked too when I got to know about Zoroastrianism. People should know more about other religions too. But some people are narrow thinker. Thanks for time taking to read about them |
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