iamclime:
At Op, which MDA or parastatal do you work with in LASG?

OnlyDeCapPlease:
Kudos to him and LASG. Any effort is still good effort.

But what is it with Nigerians and biggest this, largest that, giant whatever?? Can't we be most cost effective, most efficient, most reliable, ground breaking etc??

omonnakoda:
unnecessary grandiosity.

Big is not better in healthcare.

Smaller hospitals across all LGAs seems more sensible to me.

With the traffic situation in Lagos healthcare facilities need to be spread out


What is more important is the knowledge and training of the practitioners not the size of the Hospital

Let us take a good look at Cuba that has one of the best health services in the world with very little money

In Nigeria the among the leading killers of children are malaria and diarrhoeal diseases. These are largely PREVENTABLE with interventions like providing clean water/good food and sanitation rather than grand hospitals

emperorAY:


the architect* there is no profession in construction called 3d modeller

sinola:


How is this kitchen the largest children hospital in Africa... nawaoo

TMKsouth:


Nelson Mandela Children's Hospital is already the biggest so he's gonna have to explain what he means by biggest. The OP was scant on detail.

But excellent point you made - let efficiency reign rather than size.

Lanrelagboi:


https://twitter.com/Mr_JAGs/status/1387352943586914305?s=19

omonnakoda:
unnecessary grandiosity.

Big is not better in healthcare.

Smaller hospitals across all LGAs seems more sensible to me.

With the traffic situation in Lagos healthcare facilities need to be spread out


What is more important is the knowledge and training of the practitioners not the size of the Hospital

Let us take a good look at Cuba that has one of the best health services in the world with very little money

In Nigeria the among the leading killers of children are malaria and diarrhoeal diseases. These are largely PREVENTABLE with interventions like providing clean water/good food and sanitation rather than grand hospitals

Valkan:


can't you see the 3d concept art or abi wetin

emperor863:


Thank you. Lagosians really like what their governor/government is doing, irrespective of party affiliation.

It may be proper to beam a search light on your governor/state government.

Thank you once again for your criticism.

MENELIIK:


Use your br*in next time. If Nelson Mandela' hospital is the biggest and has been constructed, then it means the one Lagos is about to construct will be bigger than that. Dont always allow your congenital hatred for Yoruba people becloud your sense of reasoning.

That's just me using my brain.

Jimasun:

This is not a logical argument.
Lagos state health workers are almost on the same salary scale with FG workers.
Also, Lagos state doesn't owe her workers, why should they not be punctual and up and doing?

Risingblue008:
Can u afford to pay the health workers?
Not just opening or launching whtever whatever
Cos d ones wey dey onboard,,,how far?

TMKsouth:
Wasn't fighting, just saying someone just can't post news saying the biggest anything in Africa is being built without giving details and comparisons with what already exists on the ground. Maybe those details were provided elsewhere online but not in the original post here.

When I look at the Mandela hospital and the 3D models of the Lagos hospital, Mandela's still looks bigger. So the article is short on detail. That's just me using my brain.

seguno2:


.......... which is something that many of us consider to be a decorative piece, hence we don’t use it

samwash:
A topical Nigerian wants to brake records, The Lagos government has to complete this project within a space of shot time infact 5yrs will be too long.
Not just braking grounds, we need adquate maintenance policy on ground too.
This will create direct & indirect employment for the pple of Nigeria.

seguno2:


How will they be motivated to put in their best, if they know that other workers (governor and lawmakers) of the same Lagos state government, are getting a much larger total package for doing very little

Jimasun:

So that's what the government employed them to do?
You just want to be against the project at all cost even if it makes you look unintelligent.
Smh

seguno2:


You can ignore the problem and abuse all you want, that won’t make the problem go away magically.

How much do you think London nurses get as total package compared to the city’s mayor and councillors? Perhaps that is why Buhari and Tinubu run to London for treatment instead of using the world class government hospitals in Lagos

omonnakoda:
The issue is not about cement and iron, concrete and steel but about sweat and tears

How many doctors, nurses etc are going to work there , how will they be trained and retained.
Healthcare professional retention is a big problem worldwide and Lagos state is no exception.


It was in this same Lagos state barely 10 years ago under Fashola when doctors went o strike and Tinubu advocated sacking them all

We continuously fail to focus on Human development and develop a "project" obsession.. The quantity and QUALITY of healthcare professionals is a strategic choice not one that can be fixed by a new shiny building.
If you buy an MRI machine that is great but WHO is going to interpret the scans? How many qualified Radiologists are there in the WHOLE of Nigeria

Let us bring it to Children's Hospital matter


How many qualified Paediatricians are there in Lagos state or Nigeria as a whole. Nigeria had less than 500 paediatricians in 2011. How many are being trained and how will they be retained. That is a lot more difficult than awarding a contract for a building.
Akpabio has built a grand Hospital as have many others

Where are the experts?

People , qualified people are more important than concrete and steel

That is partly why both Germany and Japan despite the near destruction by bombing in WW II quickly rose again to become economic powers


Human Capital

Let me paint a simple picture Julius Berger have been in Nigeria nearly 50 years. Since they arrived Nigerians have been born and gone to study civil engineering in different place but any major JB project is headed by white people. How come they have not developed OUR PEOPLE. ? Because our politicians don't tell them to. They continue giving them expatriate quota exemptions. The Chinese operated differentl and put knowledge transfer clauses in when they awarded major contracts.

People development is more important than shiny projects that can be burnt or bombed overnight

omonnakoda:
The issue is not about cement and iron, concrete and steel but about sweat and tears

How many doctors, nurses etc are going to work there , how will they be trained and retained.
Healthcare professional retention is a big problem worldwide and Lagos state is no exception.


It was in this same Lagos state barely 10 years ago under Fashola when doctors went o strike and Tinubu advocated sacking them all

We continuously fail to focus on Human development and develop a "project" obsession.. The quantity and QUALITY of healthcare professionals is a strategic choice not one that can be fixed by a new shiny building.
If you buy an MRI machine that is great but WHO is going to interpret the scans? How many qualified Radiologists are there in the WHOLE of Nigeria

Let us bring it to Children's Hospital matter


How many qualified Paediatricians are there in Lagos state or Nigeria as a whole. Nigeria had less than 500 paediatricians in 2011. How many are being trained and how will they be retained. That is a lot more difficult than awarding a contract for a building.
Akpabio has built a grand Hospital as have many others

Where are the experts?

People , qualified people are more important than concrete and steel

That is partly why both Germany and Japan despite the near destruction by bombing in WW II quickly rose again to become economic powers


Human Capital

Let me paint a simple picture Julius Berger have been in Nigeria nearly 50 years. Since they arrived Nigerians have been born and gone to study civil engineering in different place but any major JB project is headed by white people. How come they have not developed OUR PEOPLE. ? Because our politicians don't tell them to. They continue giving them expatriate quota exemptions. The Chinese operated differentl and put knowledge transfer clauses in when they awarded major contracts.

People development is more important than shiny projects that can be burnt or bombed overnight

TMKsouth:


Wasn't fighting, just saying someone just can't post news saying the biggest anything in Africa is being built without giving details and comparisons with what already exists on the ground. Maybe those details were provided elsewhere online but not in the original post here.

When I look at the Mandela hospital and the 3D models of the Lagos hospital, Mandela's still looks bigger. So the article is short on detail. That's just me using my brain.

plaindealer:

Sometimes I think many Nigerians have bi-polar syndrome

plaindealer:



Long story short, we don't need hospitals and we should not build any hospital or any medical infrastructure just because of your own NL and layman's opinion about what we have or don't have regarding skilled professionals like pediatricians or Doctors going on strike almost a decade ago.

Is this your intelligent conclusion?

To get quality healthcare, you must have quality healthcare infrastructures to deliver quality healthcare.

To attract and employ quality healthcare professionals, you must have quality healthcare infrastructure to enable them to deliver quality healthcare, these are the demand of healthcare professionals in Nigeria and all over the world.

My question to you is, are the so-called skilled healthcare professionals supposed to practice on the side of the road or in quality healthcare settings like this children's hospital project?

Many of you try too hard to sound intelligent, but you just end up sounding the other way around, you are not even making any sense.

You are just jumping from one irrelevant issue to the next without making any sound and valid point.

It's like saying don't build a house until you have money for furniture or until you are able to buy a car to put in the garbage.

If you are going to criticize, do so with sane and rational views, not with lame reasons that don't make any sense.

You just don't know how glad I'm that people with your kind of thinking are not in charge of anything because, with your kind of mentality, you won't lift a finger to do anything, you'll just sit around on your hands waiting until the sky turns red or blue while coming up with endless excuses why you can not perform or ever do the right thing.

plaindealer:



Long story short, we don't need hospitals and we should not build any hospital or any medical infrastructure just because of your own NL and layman's opinion about what we have or don't have regarding skilled professionals like pediatricians or Doctors going on strike almost a decade ago.

Is this your intelligent conclusion?

To get quality healthcare, you must have quality healthcare infrastructures to deliver quality healthcare.

To attract and employ quality healthcare professionals, you must have quality healthcare infrastructure to enable them to deliver quality healthcare, these are the demand of healthcare professionals in Nigeria and all over the world.

My question to you is, are the so-called skilled healthcare professionals supposed to practice on the side of the road or in quality healthcare settings like this children's hospital project?

Many of you try too hard to sound intelligent, but you just end up sounding the other way around, you are not even making any sense.

You are just jumping from one irrelevant issue to the next without making any sound and valid point.

It's like saying don't build a house until you have money for furniture or until you are able to buy a car to put in the garbage.

If you are going to criticize, do so with sane and rational views, not with lame reasons that don't make any sense.

You just don't know how glad I'm that people with your kind of thinking are not in charge of anything because, with your kind of mentality, you won't lift a finger to do anything, you'll just sit around on your hands waiting until the sky turns red or blue while coming up with endless excuses why you can not perform or ever do the right thing.