dem_people:

Ajalli (my hometown in Anambra) is a corrupted name which was formerly known as Ujari. It was said that the missionaries / colonialists couldn't actually (or lazily refused to ) pronounce it in its original form of "Ujari". We the natives still call it Ujari.

dem_people:

Ajalli (my hometown in Anambra) is a corrupted name which was formerly known as Ujari. It was said that the missionaries / colonialists couldn't actually (or lazily refused to )  pronounce it in its original form of "Ujari". We the natives still call it Ujari.

ifyalways:

Sir,Nkwelle Ezunaka wud then be ?

ezeagu:

Is Ikwere a town?

dem_people:

Ajalli (my hometown in Anambra) is a corrupted name which was formerly known as Ujari. It was said that the missionaries / colonialists couldn't actually (or lazily refused to ) pronounce it in its original form of "Ujari". We the natives still call it Ujari.

ChinenyeN:

nwaigbo, a begi, no kill me hia wit lafftah.

nwaigbo_mg:

alright ma, Nkwerre and Nkwerre share the same meaning,
the difference as you can see is the spelling due to variance in dialet,

Nkwerre as it pronounced by imo groups

and Nkwelle  as pronounced by anambra groups mainly orumba dialet

yes my brother, ikwerre was never a name of any sub-igbo group or ethnic group, ikwerre has always been a name of a town, there is a Local Government in rivers state  called ikwerre, so ikwerre being an ethnic group was the handiwork of elechi amadi

another town that has a significant meaning is the headquarters   of anambra east local government  OTUOCHA

nwaigbo_mg:



yes my brother, ikwerre was never a name of any sub-igbo group or ethnic group, ikwerre has always been a name of a town, there is a Local Government in rivers state  called ikwerre, so ikwerre being an ethnic group was the handiwork of elechi amadi

another town that has a significant meaning is the headquarters   of anambra east local government  OTUOCHA

prince_onx:

Whiteman still no fit pronounce any of the above two names wether Ajalli or Ujari

vicenzo:


 ajari and ndiikelionwu are said to be aro,no?

vicenzo:

Nkwelle ezunaka should be in oyi lga of anambra.I think there is a village in ogidi named nkwelle-ogidi which shares a common boundary with nkwelle ezunaka
  I doubt if orumba dialect will use nkwelle rather than nkwere,orumba dialect is 90% the same with those of isuochi and nneato in umunneochi lga of abia state,especially those orumba south communities such as umunze,ogbunka,ifitte,owerre ezukalla,ihie,nkerehi/umuchukwu.
 Orumba dialect is so distinct from the igbo dialects in onitsha and awka axis,which is usually the igbo dialect associated with anambra people who normally use "fa" for they, unlike orumba who normally use "ha" like most abians.

dem_people:

I think its a case of superiority complex. I've really thought about why they could pronounce "sophisticated" Chinese, Japanese, German and French words and I guess its cos they really never conquered those people to the extent of stripping them of some of their cultural aspects unlike a place like India in which they conquered and renamed some of the "difficultly pronounced words" to words they could pronounce without any extra vocal effort. E.g, they renamed "Mumbai" to "Bombay". It was only changed by Indian authorities as recently as 1995 to its original name; "Mumbai".

nwaigbo_mg:

alright ma, Nkwerre and Nkwerre share the same meaning,
the difference as you can see is the spelling due to variance in dialet,

Nkwerre as it pronounced by imo groups

and Nkwelle  as pronounced by anambra groups mainly orumba dialet

yes my brother, ikwerre was never a name of any sub-igbo group or ethnic group, ikwerre has always been a name of a town, there is a Local Government in rivers state  called ikwerre, so ikwerre being an ethnic group was the handiwork of elechi amadi

another town that has a significant meaning is the headquarters   of anambra east local government  OTUOCHA

abagoro:

You are on point brother.

nwaigbo_mg:

my brother, how i go kill with lafta?

wetin i write no correct?

biko, correct me oooo

abagoro:

I'm mad at you brother for typing this crap.Even the colonialists knew Ikwerre was a distinct sub-group and classified it as that.Iwhuruohna has always known themselves as that or Ikwerre-Asaa which comprises of the seven Ikwerre clans.There is no town known as Ikwerre except Ikwerre-Etche which is in Etche and not Ikwerre.On a larger scale Ikwerre is an Igbo group and not a town.

ChinenyeN:

vicenzo, how is 'abagoro' more Igbo than 'abagworo'? or better yet, how is 'abagoro' Igbo and 'abagworo' not?
Abagworo got to it before I did. See below.

nwaigbo_mg:

yes my brother, ikwerre was never a name of any sub-igbo group or ethnic group, ikwerre has always been a name of a town, there is a Local Government in rivers state  called ikwerre, so ikwerre being an ethnic group was the handiwork of elechi amadi

abagoro:

I'm mad at you brother for typing this crap.Even the colonialists knew Ikwerre was a distinct sub-group and classified it as that.Iwhuruohna has always known themselves as that or Ikwerre-Asaa which comprises of the seven Ikwerre clans.There is no town known as Ikwerre except Ikwerre-Etche which is in Etche and not Ikwerre.On a larger scale Ikwerre is an Igbo group and not a town.

Chyz*:


Who is right between the two? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_state

Ikwerre was an area,not the name of a tribe up until they were given the label of a separate group from the people known as "Igbo". Iwhuruoha seems to be their so-called "clan", at least that's how I see it. But of course, this can always be proven wrong by olf documents kept by british durring the 1800-early 1900s. If any have some documents or links please feel free to post.

vicenzo:

Are you guys not tired of ikwerre wahala,is all these about their almost dry 96 oil wells or is it about the soul of Ph town,dont mistake me,i want the unification of all igbo tribes but must ndiigbo die because of elechi amadi,my brother told me a story about how one of them insulted him in the airport for calling him his brother and pronuncing soprachi as sopuruchi.
Please lets not turn this thread to another ikwerre thread,they are not that important,and should not be given attention.

ChinenyeN:

Vicenzo, your understanding of an 'Igbo' (or genuine 'Igbo' behavior) is funny to me.

Chyz. . not that my words mean much, if anything to you, but Abagworo is correct. Ikwere people's clan name is Ihnwuruohna (spelled variously as Ihuruoha, Iwhurohna, etc. etc.). 'Ikwere' is Ihnwurohna's nickname. Just like how Ngwa is nicknamed 'Ngwangwa' by others. In fact, just go look into the works of Talbot, Oriji, Kelechukwu Ihemere and others if you don't care for what I have to say.

Chyz*:

We're  basically saying the same thing. The thing that I'm most curious about is the label of "Ikwerre" as an area. It's not foreign to me that a group can be given the nickname of there own town. What i want to know is if at a point, the Iwhuruoha people came together to carve the area of their kinsmen, to prevent expansion of neighboring groups into their land, and came up with a common name of the area called "Ikwerre".  It would kind of explain the name "Ikwere"-"Do you agree/You agree". Sounds like a consensus call of those involved. I will check thoe people you mentioned out though.

Chyz*:

P.S.
Don't take it that I don't value your comments. . .The more you're pushed the more info you give which is what I want. Helps me. That is why i do what I do. Kinda helps fill in the blanks with less of a hastle.

ChinenyeN:

Alright, though I don't particularly agree with your interpretation of some things, Vicenzo, I believe I understand now where you're coming from.

vicenzo:

@chineye.
  Sure,its this soft spot and and trying to play a nationalist role that made aguiyi ironsi to surround himself with Yoruba and awusa people that resulted to his death,which lead to lost of life of millions of igbos in biafra war and the slavery of ndiigbo  after the war,balkanization of igboland,hence ikwerre,etche,oyigbo,ika wahala and the economic strangulation of the east ie 20 pounds policy,no seaport,no functional international airport,the loss of the east became the gain of the west(lagos).
  Think of where ndiigbo will be today,if ironsi had no soft spot for awusa and Yoruba peeps,tribalism  was,is,and will always be an issue in nigeria,ignore it at your own peril.
   Zik is another example of an igbo with a soft spot for Yoruba and awusa whose actions the whole igbo race paid for, this soft spot and silly nationalist tendency made him to contest in west,because he ignored the tribalism of nigeria,his loss and the need to create space for him in the east lead to the eyo ita saga which the nigerian propaganda machine used to divide the east and weakened biafra even before its birth.
  You can see why i hate it when an igbo tries to play the nationalist game,it doesnt work in nigeria,what works is tribalism,ignore it at your own peril,and spare me the moving nigeria forward trash, for we all know there is no nigeria all we have is OIL,once it finish,

vicenzo:

Okay,i will always remember that.

udezue:

Abagworo has a good knowledge of Igbo culture and should simply stick to what he knows not politics. People like him 4k us up with his BS so guy just stick to educating on various Igbo cultures.

Obiagu1:

Thank you vicenzo!

I once said Abagworo was not Igbo and this same Chinenye came asking me silly question.

Abagworo is a potential Igbo destroyer just like his likes: Zik (aka the Greatest Fo.ol) and Ironsi (aka the Stu.pid Man).
We all suffer today because of this two men.