The steering is locked to one position, and the car won’t start.

Please how can I fix this?

Call a mechanic.

It’s a steering lock issue.

ignis:
Call a mechanic.

Jamal64:
The steering is locked to one position, and the car won’t start.

Please how can I fix this?

Is the engine cranking ie rolling or not .

Glass wouldn’t even wine up.
Nope it’s not.

autologic:

Is the engine cranking ie rolling or not .

Jamal64:
It’s a steering lock issue.

The unlock the steering by turning it.

for c300 2010?

ignis:


The unlock the steering by turning it.

Jamal64:
The steering is locked to one position, and the car won’t start.

Please how can I fix this?

did you travel in water? or can you check to see if water got into it?

CAN network/ communication problems can cause this issue.
your best bet of accurate fix is starting with a full system scan. anyother thing na just guess work and waste of money.

find a tech with a capable scanner. scan the car. post codes here.

Jamal64:
It’s a steering lock issue.

does the key suck?
can you turn on ignition?
what have tou noticed that doesn't work compared to when everything worked perfect?
pks provide more information...

Check the electronic steering lock. It is under the steering tho.
Once it doesnt sense that key has been inserted and unlocks steering then it wont send signal to starter and vehicle wont starts

The w204 is notorious for the steering lock failure , u can have replacement programmed or u use a emulator so u don't ever have that problem again, the second issue could be your key packed up so the car can not sense it. Its one of the two

baconline:
The w204 is notorious for the steering lock failure , u can have replacement programmed or u use a emulator so u don't ever have that problem again, the second issue could be your key packed up so the car can not sense it. Its one of the two

most of these advanced modern cars are simply not meant for Nigeria,even in advanced countries repairing some problems and electrical issues can be irritating, experienced car mechanics like Scotty kilmer and the car wizard encounter difficulty repairing some of these German cars,they have complex electronics and different separate modules that control almost the whole car function,imagine having a brainbox for your wiper + the relays,fuses,etc, many things that can go wrong.

okoroemeka:
most of these advanced modern cars are simply not meant for Nigeria,even in advanced countries repairing some problems and electrical issues can be irritating, experienced car mechanics like Scotty kilmer and the car wizard encounter difficulty repairing some of these German cars,they have complex electronics and different separate modules that control almost the whole car function,imagine having a brainbox for your wiper + the relays,fuses,etc, many things that can go wrong.

several modules controlling several systems actually makes diagnosis easy.
what is lacking in this side of the world is easy access to manufacturer information.
even those who have access have to pay alot. these things cost alot. but when you charge a customer for these they tell you "it's too expensive" and then go back to a "road side tech" who will keep doing trial and error. eventually the car owner will start to swear that onw brand is good one is not good.


anyways my point is, it is wrong to say certain cars are not meant for us. if we had access to information it would be a whole different ball game.

#MYOPINION

OgaKazeem:


several modules controlling several systems actually makes diagnosis easy.
what is lacking in this side of the world is easy access to manufacturer information.
even those who have access have to pay alot. these things cost alot. but when you charge a customer for these they tell you "it's too expensive" and then go back to a "road side tech" who will keep doing trial and error. eventually the car owner will start to swear that onw brand is good one is not good.


anyways my point is, it is wrong to say certain cars are not meant for us. if we had access to information it would be a whole different ball game.

#MYOPINION

I just watched a repair video on YouTube of Scotty kilmer on a 2012 Volkswagen Passat,it has 45,000km and the wiper is not functioning,to even diagonise the problem you want need a German made Bosch obd scanner,not any Chinese scanner and the problem is a bad wiper module,now if I drive such a car in enugu or owerri do you seriously think I can get a car repair shop with the Bosch scanner,I don't think so

OgaKazeem:


several modules controlling several systems actually makes diagnosis easy.
what is lacking in this side of the world is easy access to manufacturer information.
even those who have access have to pay alot. these things cost alot. but when you charge a customer for these they tell you "it's too expensive" and then go back to a "road side tech" who will keep doing trial and error. eventually the car owner will start to swear that onw brand is good one is not good.


anyways my point is, it is wrong to say certain cars are not meant for us. if we had access to information it would be a whole different ball game.

#MYOPINION

Nice one

okoroemeka:
I just watched a repair video on YouTube of Scotty kilmer on a 2012 Volkswagen Passat,it has 45,000km and the wiper is not functioning,to even diagonise the problem you want need a German made Bosch obd scanner,not any Chinese scanner and the problem is a bad wiper module,now if I drive such a car in enugu or owerri do you seriously think I can get a car repair shop with the Bosch scanner,I don't think so

I have handled alot of German vehicle and my experience is that you don't even need any Bosch scanner to have access to all the modules on the vehicle network ,most professional scanner eg autel , launch etc can handle them well with ease, personally i own an oem benz star scanner i rarely use it unless i want to do complex function , my autel maxisys will suffice for basic stuff. .And i need to further emphasis that "scanner" are mere data retrieval tools and useless if u don't have the core foundational skill and the core skill is knowledge of principle of operation of how stuff works and basic troubleshooting skill and u will need to have the some foundation knowledge of sciences especially electrical,mechanics ,thermodynamics etc to understand all these jargon u will read about in all the workshop manual cos modern vehicle technology has upgraded over the years .
For instance now , there is a thread (https://www.nairaland.com/6661079/speedometer-not-reading-honda-pilot) and the vehicle in question is still a Japanese brand that average nigeria feel that it not complicated and for us ,inspite of the fact that i describe to the op of this thread vividly the logic route of the signal flow to the speedometer that is not working so that his technician can know have idea of where and what to troubleshoot, he still didn't get it except revert to their crude way of "part throwing to solve problem " Why ? he lack the foundation core skill .And for the reason our local technician are still able to get more success with the Japanese brand than the european is cos of less signal paths routes and less modules and by the time u throw some few parts to the problem one of them will purportedly fix the issue unlike the European that that has more modules and more signal path routes ," how many parts u want to throw that will fix the problem unless u want add more problem to the original problem
So wether European,American,jap or even chinko troubleshooting basics still remain the same ,nothing as change .My saying still remains : You can't troubleshoot what you don't understand

Also the auto repair industry is not attractive and rewarding enough to keep the smarts and bright one to stay , the smarts one will prefer to go for for attractive sector eg medicine or IT where their input and value will be rewarded correspondingly unlike auto where customer pay peanuts for highly skill troubleshooting and repair job , so the category of skilled labour left in the industries are "kazeems" so how do u expect a semi illiterate artisan to understand basic signal flow fundamental talkless of troubleshooting CAN network system that modern vehicle architect are made of .Average vehicle owners know the recommended place that their vehicle issue will get fixed permanently but they will prefer to tow the line of the kazeems so it wen things get out of hands they will now start seeking helps from forums
So the problem we have is problem of knowledge gap and the poor rewarding system of auto industry .maybe wen the industry start get rewarding enough , maybe the bright ones will stay .

okoroemeka:
I just watched a repair video on YouTube of Scotty kilmer on a 2012 Volkswagen Passat,it has 45,000km and the wiper is not functioning,to even diagonise the problem you want need a German made Bosch obd scanner,not any Chinese scanner and the problem is a bad wiper module,now if I drive such a car in enugu or owerri do you seriously think I can get a car repair shop with the Bosch scanner,I don't think so

lol do you know Scotty Kilmer is biased against american and german cars?
have you noticed he is always praising the Japs particularly Toyota & Lexus?
See we fix VWs, Audis, Mercedes and BMW with Autel, Launch etc.
it is not rocket science baba. it is knowing what you're looking for. and how to find it.

without scanner how will I diagnose & fix this problem you mentioned?
1.With a wiring diagram. check your powers and grounds to the module. Ensure you have a good wiring integrity and all signals required are received.
2. do a full system scan. can you access the module. the answer to this will tell you your next step.
3. lets assume you can access it, can you command it to turn on the wiper? if you do so, does it carry out the command?
4. now let's get the wiring for the wiper it only needs power and ground as it is an electric motor. find the socket. apply power and ground. does it work?
yes it does. now you have narrowed down your problem. you have a faulty module.


i didn't need a Bosch scanner to fix this problem. with a test light sef I can gather data I need tho it will be more stressful. why not check another video of another person fixing similar issue. are they all using Bosch scanner?

autologic:

I have handled alot of German vehicle and my experience is that you don't even need any Bosch scanner to have access to all the modules on the vehicle network ,most professional scanner eg autel , launch etc can handle them well with ease .And i need to further emphasis that scanner are mere data retrieval tools and useless if u don't have the core foundational skill and the core skill is knowledge of principle of operation and u will need to have the some foundation knowledge of sciences especially electrical,mechanics ,thermodynamics etc to understand all these jargon u will read about in all the workshop manual cos modern vehicle technology has upgraded over the years .
For instance now , there is a thread (https://www.nairaland.com/6661079/speedometer-not-reading-honda-pilot) and the vehicle in question is still a Japanese brand that average nigeria feel that it not complicated ,inspite of the fact that i describe to the op of this thread vividly the logic route of the signal flow to the speedometer that is not working so that his technician can know have idea of where and what to troubleshoot, he still didn't get it except revert to their crude way of "part throwing to solve problem " Why ? he lack the foundation core skill and for that case i will conclude that It no use beating a dead horse .
The basic difference between the Japanese and the Europe brand is that u have more signal flows paths cos of more modules ,the foundation architecture still remains the same nothing really have changed much if u know your basics .
Also the auto repair industry is not attractive and rewarding enough to keep the smarts and bright one to stay , the smarts one will prefer to go for for attractive sector eg medicine or IT where their input and value will be rewarded correspondingly unlike auto where customer pay peanuts for highly skill troubleshooting and repair job , so how do expect semi illiterate artisan to understand basic signal flow fundamental talkless of troubleshooting Can network system
So when the industry start get rewarding enough , maybe it will start attracting the bright ones .

well said chief

OgaKazeem:

lol do you know Scotty Kilmer is biased against american and german cars?
have you noticed he is always praising the Japs particularly Toyota & Lexus?
See we fix VWs, Audis, Mercedes and BMW with Autel, Launch etc.
it is not rocket science baba. it is knowing what you're looking for. and how to find it.

without scanner how will I diagnose & fix this problem you mentioned?
1.With a wiring diagram. check your powers and grounds to the module. Ensure you have a good wiring integrity and all signals required are received.
2. do a full system scan. can you access the module. the answer to this will tell you your next step.
3. lets assume you can access it, can you command it to turn on the wiper? if you do so, does it carry out the command?
4. now let's get the wiring for the wiper it only needs power and ground as it is an electric motor. find the socket. apply power and ground. does it work?
yes it does. now you have narrowed down your problem. you have a faulty module.


i didn't need a Bosch scanner to fix this problem. with a test light sef I can gather data I need tho it will be more stressful. why not check another video of another person fixing similar issue. are they all using Bosch scanner?

Scot Kilmer fixing German car indeed i can't even recommend him to fix my baby European car toy

Jamal64:
The steering is locked to one position, and the car won’t start.

Please how can I fix this?

Had the same issue recently, it could be the EIS or ESL and it can be both at the same time. You will need to get a well-versed Mercedes Benz Electrical person to diagnose which is the issue. Got mine sorted within a few days.

autologic:

Scot Kilmer fixing German car indeed i can't even recommend him to fix my baby European car toy

to tell the truth I can't even understand most of the technical terms ogakazeem is using,I am stumped but all I know is that auto manufacturers are making cars that are unnecessarily complicated,why remove transmission dip stick?why remove engine oil dip stick?why would a wiper need a computer chip to control it?why would a steering wheel be electric?that a single fuse /relay blowout can leave you stranded in no man's land,60-70% of car problems now is electrical.

okoroemeka:
to tell the truth I can't even understand most of the technical terms ogakazeem is using,I am stumped but all I know is that auto manufacturers are making cars that are unnecessarily complicated,why remove transmission dip stick?why remove engine oil dip stick?why would a wiper need a computer chip to control it?why would a steering wheel be electric?that a single fuse /relay blowout can leave you stranded in no man's land,60-70% of car problems now is electrical.

It not european alone but all manufacturer are going towards hi-tech and more sophistication and there nothing anybody can do to stop this . .What is actually driving the vehicle manufacturer towards groundbreaking innovation towards electrical and computers are largely due to ; strict and safety emissions demand from government agency (EPA) .
The mechanical spare parts are largely replaced with electrical and computer to meet with the ever changing emissions standard.Even the so- called non- complicated Toyota after crossing to the model year 2012 and above are almost at par with the European technologywise ,complex CAN network , more computer modules added and even much more electrical stuff .Do you know that the out of the Japanese brand the so -called simple Toyota is one of early adopters of the groundbreaking technology innovation in world of AC ;the variable displacement compressor ( VDC ) .So for how long will our beloved technician keep runing away from electrical and even discouraging their customer away from using the sophisticated cars but to forever stick to uber corolla ??
So it now the duty of technician to keep learning to meet up with the evolving technologies or fizzle out .

OP, have you fixed the issue? Your ESL is the problem, same happened to mine and I learnt alot from it, let me know, I can direct you to someone, with your vin, he can send you a programmed ESL and your vehicle will be back to normal.

autologic:

Scot Kilmer fixing German car indeed i can't even recommend him to fix my baby European car toy

hahahaha this one harsh ooo

How much did it cost you?

femionasan:


Had the same issue recently, it could be the EIS or ESL and it can be both at the same time. You will need to get a well-versed Mercedes Benz Electrical person to diagnose which is the issue. Got mine sorted within a few days.

autologic:

I have handled alot of German vehicle and my experience is that you don't even need any Bosch scanner to have access to all the modules on the vehicle network ,most professional scanner eg autel , launch etc can handle them well with ease, personally i own an oem benz star scanner i rarely use it unless i want to do complex function , my autel maxisys will suffice for basic stuff. .And i need to further emphasis that "scanner" are mere data retrieval tools and useless if u don't have the core foundational skill and the core skill is knowledge of principle of operation of how stuff works and basic troubleshooting skill and u will need to have the some foundation knowledge of sciences especially electrical,mechanics ,thermodynamics etc to understand all these jargon u will read about in all the workshop manual cos modern vehicle technology has upgraded over the years .
For instance now , there is a thread (https://www.nairaland.com/6661079/speedometer-not-reading-honda-pilot) and the vehicle in question is still a Japanese brand that average nigeria feel that it not complicated and for us ,inspite of the fact that i describe to the op of this thread vividly the logic route of the signal flow to the speedometer that is not working so that his technician can know have idea of where and what to troubleshoot, he still didn't get it except revert to their crude way of "part throwing to solve problem " Why ? he lack the foundation core skill .And for the reason our local technician are still able to get more success with the Japanese brand than the european is cos of less signal paths routes and less modules and by the time u throw some few parts to the problem one of them will purportedly fix the issue unlike the European that that has more modules and more signal path routes ," how many parts u want to throw that will fix the problem unless u want add more problem to the original problem
So wether European,American,jap or even chinko troubleshooting basics still remain the same ,nothing as change .My saying still remains : You can't troubleshoot what you don't understand

Also the auto repair industry is not attractive and rewarding enough to keep the smarts and bright one to stay , the smarts one will prefer to go for for attractive sector eg medicine or IT where their input and value will be rewarded correspondingly unlike auto where customer pay peanuts for highly skill troubleshooting and repair job , so the category of skilled labour left in the industries are "kazeems" so how do u expect a semi illiterate artisan to understand basic signal flow fundamental talkless of troubleshooting CAN network system that modern vehicle architect are made of .Average vehicle owners know the recommended place that their vehicle issue will get fixed permanently but they will prefer to tow the line of the kazeems so it wen things get out of hands they will now start seeking helps from forums
So the problem we have is problem of knowledge gap and the poor rewarding system of auto industry .maybe wen the industry start get rewarding enough , maybe the bright ones will stay .

Op follow this man if you can get to him. Mr Yemi is tested and trusted by me.

Springboot:
OP, have you fixed the issue? Your ESL is the problem, same happened to mine and I learnt alot from it, let me know, I can direct you to someone, with your vin, he can send you a programmed ESL and your vehicle will be back to normal.

which one be ESL,is it connected with the steering wheel?if it is programmed that means it is a module for the steering wheel!!what the hell, how does steering effect emissions,this is pure planned obsolescence,to make cars that last the warranty period and it will start to fall apart.

greatbrian:



Op follow this man if you can get to him. Mr Yemi is tested and trusted by me.

Thanks for the recommendation sir

okoroemeka:
which one be ESL,is it connected with the steering wheel?if it is programmed that means it is a module for the steering wheel!!what the hell, how does steering effect emissions,this is pure planned obsolescence,to make cars that last the warranty period and it will start to fall apart.

bros you just dey vex anyhow... hehehe. no worry God go bless you wella na only latest motor you go dey buy

okoroemeka:
to tell the truth I can't even understand most of the technical terms ogakazeem is using,I am stumped but all I know is that auto manufacturers are making cars that are unnecessarily complicated,why remove transmission dip stick?why remove engine oil dip stick?why would a wiper need a computer chip to control it?why would a steering wheel be electric?that a single fuse /relay blowout can leave you stranded in no man's land,60-70% of car problems now is electrical.

Peugeot says hi

It's also the only car I know that fuel consumption increases by over 20% if u do direct fan connection. which by the way kazeem always do immediately u leave ur ride with them

OgaKazeem:


bros you just dey vex anyhow... hehehe. no worry God go bless you wella na only latest motor you go dey buy

my brother I will not lie,I will drive the latest ride if given the opportunity,but what I am saying is not that I hate modern cars but the fact that the accountant has replaced engineers and designers in many car companies is evident in the type of aggressive cost cutting they now use in manufacturing cars, plastics are used every were even in components that are exposed to high stress and heat,cars are now loaded with tons of electrical gizmos that most the driver will not need,I predict that when this current cars start breaking down,it will be the peak and car companies will backtrack to common sense technology,take for example the rain sensitive wiper,if rain drops on the windscreen the wiper will activate,why?is the driver blind he can't see the rain or armless he can't switch it on,such technology will be loaded with computer modules and micro devices,relays,fuses,all of these are problems waiting to develop

okoroemeka:
my brother I will not lie,I will drive the latest ride if given the opportunity,but what I am saying is not that I hate modern cars but the fact that the accountant has replaced engineers and designers in many car companies is evident in the type of aggressive cost cutting they now use in manufacturing cars, plastics are used every were even in components that are exposed to high stress and heat,cars are now loaded with tons of electrical gizmos that most the driver will not need,I predict that when this current cars start breaking down,it will be the peak and car companies will backtrack to common sense technology,take for example the rain sensitive wiper,if rain drops on the windscreen the wiper will activate,why?is the driver blind he can't see the rain or armless he can't switch it on,such technology will be loaded with computer modules and micro devices,relays,fuses,all of these are problems waiting to develop

these companies don't really care about the second hand car market where these problems are common place.