PENNYSWAP:
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If Allah is God, why will he swear with the lords name ??

Arkmanbuddy:
Waiting for our Muslim scholars to jump in and answer the question. I bet this will end in insults on the guy for asking an innocent question.

advocatejare:
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

فَلَآ أُقْسِمُ بِرَبِّ الْمَشٰرِقِ وَالْمَغٰرِبِ إِنَّا لَقٰدِرُونَ
"So I swear by the Lord of risings and settings that indeed We are able"
(QS. Al-Ma'aarij 70: Verse 40)


Who is the Lord of risings and settings that Allah was swearing with?

advocatejare:

Let's call their leaders, Em.piree, Lu.kgaf, Antichr.istian, Rash4du.ctluv, Thatfair.guy1

Lukgaf:


Allah، the most powerful is swearing by His mighty.

[He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.

ANTIlSLAM:


Alfa Luku you fall my hand big time I swear, since allah is your Lord and god why is he still swearing with his mighty? The same allah and his angels prayed for Muhammad. Shey allah has another supreme and almighty that is mightiest than him?

AntiChristian:


He has answered the question and yet you said he fall your hand.

After the question is answered another diversion to another question. Will your questions ever end?

If Allah prays for Muhammad, didn't Jesus your god pray to Yahweh his Lord who is also himself?

Allah is able to do all things so He in His Majesty swears by His creations but Muslims swear by Allah's name only.

This is sensible.

Maybe there are somethings your God can't do. Can He swear at all? Mention where he did.

ANTIlSLAM:


Good question, Jesus Christ prayed to Yahweh, Jehovah his father the Almighty. You will never see Yahweh, Jehovah swearing by his name talkless of praying in his name just because he is the supreme and Almighty.

Bros you can help Alfa Luku answer this question.

Who is the Lord of risings and settings that Allah was swearing with, who is Allah sending his praying request to lobatan

ThatFairGuy1:
I don't want to answer you but I changed my mind. Meanwhile, after this explanation, I'LL NEVER ENGAGE YOU ON THE MATTER AGAIN INSHA'ALLAH.


Tafsir ibn kathir

فَلَ أُقْسِمُ بِرَبِّ الْمَشَارِقِ وَالْمَغَارِبِ

But no!

I swear by the Lord of the easts and the wests.

meaning, the One Who created the heavens and the earth and made the east and the west. He is the One Who subjected the stars causing them to appear in the eastern parts of the sky and vanish in the western parts of it.

The point of this statement is that the matter is not as the disbelievers claim:that there is no final return, no reckoning, no resurrection and no gathering. Rather all of this will occur and come to pass. There is no way of avoiding it. This is the reason that Allah has stated a negation at the beginning of this oath. This shows that He is swearing by a denial of their claim. This is a refutation of their false claim of rejecting the Day of Judgement. They already witnessed the greatness of Allah's power in what is more convincing than the Day of Judgement, that is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the subjection of the creatures in them, the animals, the inanimate objects and the other types of creatures that exist.

This is why Allah says,

لَخَلْقُ السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ أَكْـبَرُ مِنْ خَلْقِ النَّاسِ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْـثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

The creation of the heavens and the earth is indeed greater than the creation of mankind; yet, most of mankind know not. (40:57)

Allah also says,

أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْاْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ الَّذِى خَلَقَ السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ وَلَمْ يَعْىَ بِخَلْقِهِنَّ بِقَادِرٍ عَلَى أَن يُحْىِ الْمَوْتَى بَلَى إِنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ

Do they not see that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth, and was not wearied by their creation, is able to give life to the dead?

Yes, He surely is Able to do all things. (46:33)

Allah says in another Ayah,

أَوَلَـيْسَ الَذِى خَلَقَ السَّمَـوتِ وَالاٌّرْضَ بِقَـدِرٍ عَلَى أَن يَخْلُقَ مِثْلَهُم بَلَى وَهُوَ الْخَلَّـقُ الْعَلِيمُ

إِنَّمَأ أَمْرُهُ إِذَا أَرَادَ شَيْياً أَن يَقُولَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ

Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth, able to create the like of them?

Yes, indeed! He is the All-Knowing Supreme Creator.

Verily, His command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!"-- and it is! (36:81,82)

advocatejare:
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

فَلَآ أُقْسِمُ بِرَبِّ الْمَشٰرِقِ وَالْمَغٰرِبِ إِنَّا لَقٰدِرُونَ
"So I swear by the Lord of risings and settings that indeed We are able"
(QS. Al-Ma'aarij 70: Verse 40)

Who is the Lord of risings and settings that Allah was swearing with?

ThatFairGuy1:
I don't want to answer you but I changed my mind. Meanwhile, after this explanation, I'LL NEVER ENGAGE YOU ON THE MATTER AGAIN INSHA'ALLAH.


Tafsir ibn kathir

فَلَ أُقْسِمُ بِرَبِّ الْمَشَارِقِ وَالْمَغَارِبِ

But no!

I swear by the Lord of the easts and the wests.

meaning, the One Who created the heavens and the earth and made the east and the west. He is the One Who subjected the stars causing them to appear in the eastern parts of the sky and vanish in the western parts of it.

The point of this statement is that the matter is not as the disbelievers claim:that there is no final return, no reckoning, no resurrection and no gathering. Rather all of this will occur and come to pass. There is no way of avoiding it. This is the reason that Allah has stated a negation at the beginning of this oath. This shows that He is swearing by a denial of their claim. This is a refutation of their false claim of rejecting the Day of Judgement. They already witnessed the greatness of Allah's power in what is more convincing than the Day of Judgement, that is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the subjection of the creatures in them, the animals, the inanimate objects and the other types of creatures that exist.

This is why Allah says,

لَخَلْقُ السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ أَكْـبَرُ مِنْ خَلْقِ النَّاسِ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْـثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

The creation of the heavens and the earth is indeed greater than the creation of mankind; yet, most of mankind know not. (40:57)

Allah also says,

أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْاْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ الَّذِى خَلَقَ السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ وَلَمْ يَعْىَ بِخَلْقِهِنَّ بِقَادِرٍ عَلَى أَن يُحْىِ الْمَوْتَى بَلَى إِنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ

Do they not see that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth, and was not wearied by their creation, is able to give life to the dead?

Yes, He surely is Able to do all things. (46:33)

Allah says in another Ayah,

أَوَلَـيْسَ الَذِى خَلَقَ السَّمَـوتِ وَالاٌّرْضَ بِقَـدِرٍ عَلَى أَن يَخْلُقَ مِثْلَهُم بَلَى وَهُوَ الْخَلَّـقُ الْعَلِيمُ

إِنَّمَأ أَمْرُهُ إِذَا أَرَادَ شَيْياً أَن يَقُولَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ

Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth, able to create the like of them?

Yes, indeed! He is the All-Knowing Supreme Creator.

Verily, His command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!"-- and it is! (36:81,82)

AntiChristian:


The Lord of the risings and settings is Allah Himself. So He swears by Himself or anything He wishes to swear by of His creations!




This is a great response! But it won't suffice for them. They will keep deflecting and diverting from one topic to another!

Lukgaf:


Allah، the most powerful is swearing by His mighty.

[He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.

advocatejare:

How can it suffice for us when it doesn't make sense. We are people who use our brains and question things we are told not crammers that accept everything we are told like zombies


Your explanation doesn’t make sense. Allah cannot be the one swearing using I, We, The Lord of Easts and Wests in the same sentence.

It’s not everyone that reads that doesn’t apply sense. How can anyone say that those 3 refer to only one person?


So I (who is this?)
swear
by the Lord (who is this?)
of risings and settings that indeed

We (who are these)are able"
(QS. Al-Ma'aarij 70: Verse 40)

The “I” was Muhammad talking because he was the mouthpiece of whoever was inspiring the Quran to him

“The Lord of the Easts and Wests” is his tribal god

And the “We” is Muhammad, Ali and their other contemporaries

AntiChristian:


Since you have your preconceived answer why ask us then?

advocatejare:

I had thought that you guys would be different this time, but it's the same copy and paste of tafsir that u have not taken time to understand yourself.

ANTIlSLAM:


Good question, Jesus Christ prayed to Yahweh, Jehovah his father the Almighty. You will never see Yahweh, Jehovah swearing by his name talkless of praying in his name just because he is the supreme and Almighty.

Bros you can help Alfa Luku answer this question.

Who is the Lord of risings and settings that Allah was swearing with, Who is Allah sending his praying request to lobatan

AntiChristian:


Delete what you can't defend. And promote what you can.

And why can't your Lord swear. That's the only thing He can't do right?

Your God that can send His son to be murdered but can't swear!

advocatejare:

That is your job, read before you copy and paste so that u can post relevant things

I won't fall for your diversion tactics. Like you used to say, if you want us to talk about that, create the topic and mention me and I'll teach you as usual. Omo mi loje

I'm happy that you have agreed that your Qur'an lied that Jesus is not the Son of God and that He didn't die. Now u believe that he's the Son of God and that He died for humanity. You're getting there gradually

AntiChristian:





Only the dumbest people believe a God send His son to be murdered...What does your God need son/partner for sef?

AntiChristian:


Jesus is God. A God praying to another God? And you'll claim you are worshiping one God?

AntiChristian:


He has answered. But it won't suffice you.

AntiChristian:



Allah can do all things and this includes swearing by anything He wishes to swear by!

Can your God do all things? is there an exception to what He can do?

malcom1X:




Allah sending prayers requests.

ANTIlSLAM:


Oh so you have accepted Jesus as God, good of you.

Are you not reading my texts, how many times am I gonna explain myself?

Jesus Christ prayed to Jehovah, Yahweh his Father, the Almighty.. You will never see Yahweh, Jehovah praying to another Almighty or swearing by the Lord of risings and settings as seen in allah that swear and prayed for muhammad



Must you always lie, you embrace taqqiya more than the custodian of it



Allah can swear by another Lord and God and the same allah is your Lord and head abi? Continue sogbo

Jehovah can't lie.

RightChannel:


When I read that verse of the Quran I was just laughing. Allah and his Angels praying for Muhammad and those Muslims we come here telling us Allah is God that has no superior

AntiChristian:



But you won't laugh when Jesus who is "one with God" was praying to himself or accusing himself for forsaking himself?

How is hypocrisy defined?

AntiChristian:


Can your God do all things? is there an exception to what He can do? Why can't he swear?

ANTIlSLAM:


My God is not an author of confusion like allah that prayed for muhammad with his angels and even swearing with his name

RightChannel:


Can you pls qoute from the Bible where Jesus Christ prays to himself

AntiChristian:


"My people perish cause they lack knowledge"

Yahweh can't swear! Allah can do all things!

Just say it.