Kunle Olawunmi, a retired commodore of the Nigerian Navy, is currently in the news following his recent comments on Nigeria’s security challenges when he featured on Sunrise Daily, a programme on Channels Television.

Olawunmi, who is currently the head of the department of
criminology and security studies at Chrisland University,
Abeokuta, Ogun state, was said to have been declared
wanted by the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) after the
interview, but the Defence Headquarters (DHQ) has
debunked the claim.

Speaking on the August 24 attack on the Nigerian Defence
Academy (NDA) in Kaduna, the retired naval officer
commented on the need to improve Nigeria’s security
architecture across military formations, with particular focus
on addressing insurgency by prosecuting persons accused of
sponsoring acts of terrorism. Reproduced below is what he
said, as listened to by TheCable.

ON THE NDA ATTACK
“My impression, I think, is just the impression of every
Nigerian at this point. This is an aberration. I mean, you don’t
attack Nigerian Defence Academy and kill officers and get
away with it. The last time I was in NDA was in 2017. I went
to carry out an investigation by the minister of defence that
wanted me to check what is going on with the training, and
the security environment there.

“I remember I spent about a week at the NDA, with the
commandant, and with the staff. But something struck me.

And that was every Friday, the gate of NDA is thrown open,
and everybody has access to come and pray in the mosque.

I want to actually enjoin journalists to go to all military
formations across the country on Friday by one o’clock. You
are going to see the same thing happening across all military
formations.

“If you go to Defence Headquarters — I served at Defence
Headquarters as the deputy director, defence administration
between 2015 and 2017. Throughout my two years at Defence Headquarters, I received visitors only twice because of the strict security architecture at the Defence
Headquarters. But every Friday, the gate of Defence
Headquarters is thrown wide open for everybody to come in
and do Juma’at.


“That is the time the terrorists have the time to profile our
security environment. It has always been the case. I’ve
served in military intelligence for the past 35 years. Our
problem is religion and socio-cultural. People expect me to
come here and start talking about kinetics, about operations,
and so on. I’ve been an operation commander all my life. I’ve
commanded warships, troops, men outside Nigeria and so
on. But I’m not going to come to your station to discuss
kinetics. The problem is not kinetics. In 2017… 2016, I’m
always a member of the security and intelligence brief at the
Defence Headquarters. I told them – General Olonisakin then
– that the challenge we have in this country cannot be
solved the same way we solved the problem of the Niger
Delta.”

ON ALLEGED SPONSORS OF BOKO HARAM INSURGENCY
“I told Olonisakin that the centre of gravity of Boko Haram
and insurgency in Nigeria are the sponsors of that programme. It was beyond us, because the job we need to
do is kinetics; fight, destroy places, resolve issues. But we
cannot resolve issues of sponsors of Boko Haram that were
in Buhari’s government that we know, that we know then.

“I was in the military intelligence and the Defence
Headquarters’ staff that I worked with know and that was
how we couldn’t pursue that aspect that could have resolved
that problem, because you need to arrest people.


“Recently, 400 people were gathered as sponsors of Boko
Haram. Why is it that the Buhari government has refused to
try them?

“In April this year, the government said they have arrested
400 Bureau de Change (BDCs)-related people that were
sponsoring Boko Haram. They told us. And Abu Dhabi also
helped us to arrest few Nigerians. Why can’t this government,
if not that they are partisan, and part of the charade going on,
why can’t they bring these people out for trial?

“The people I mentioned that are in government are not
these ones that they just arrested. You remember this Boko
Haram issue started since 2012 and I was in the military
intelligence that time. We arrested those people. It’s my
organisation that actually conducted interrogation and
interview and they mentioned names.

“I can’t come on air and start mentioning names of people
that are presently in government now that I know that the
boys that we arrested mentioned. Some of them are
governors now. Some of them are in the senate. Some of
them are in Aso Rock. Why should a government try to cause
this kind of embarrassment?


“The truth I’m telling you now, not about sentiment, is that
there are groups of people that feel that this country should
be Islamised. This is a fact, except you want me to start
mentioning names of people in this government that we have
interrogated. I was a member of an interrogation team and
I’ve interrogated a very high-ranking member of this
government in 2007, 2008 on issue of Boko Haram. I
interrogated him. He’s in the government right now. And
what was the issue? Boko Haram. And this senior officer was
actually let go, because he was found culpable. But right now, he’s in the government.

ON EFFORTS MADE BY GOVERNMENT TO TACKLE
INSURGENCY
“When you have a problem at policy level, strategic level or
operational level, what you need to do is identify the centre
of gravity of the problem and attack it. What they (the federal
government) are doing is not attacking the centre of gravity
of the problem of Boko Haram and insurgency.

“So if the president is buying Super Tucano (jets), changing
service chiefs, that is not the solution. We are looking at the
wrong side. It’s not kinetics, it’s politics. The centre of
gravity is what they should look at and it is the sponsor of
Boko Haram and bandits.

“I was surprised at the tremendous information at the DSS.
There have so much information presently at DSS about what
I am talking about. But if a fish is going to get spoilt, it is
going to start getting spoilt from the head. The DSS will not
do anything except the commander-in-chief’s body language
shows that this is the direction I want to go. That is what the
problem is.

“The DSS has tremendous information. By the time 2023 is
here and somebody take over and wants to undo some of
these evils that I have seen in this country, you will be
surprised names that the DSS will bring out. They have the
information, there is nothing I want to say here that they
don’t have. The Defence Headquarters has the solution for
the kinetics aspect, they do. I am not going to come here to
advise them. I worked with them and they are still there.

“The chief of naval staff was in the intelligence with me, we
were together in Defence Intelligence Agency, that is Vice
Admiral Gambo. I know these people are good, they know
what to do. It’s not that they have problems. It has to do with
politics, the sponsors, people that feel this country should be
Islamised.”

‘END GAME IS TO TURN NIGERIA TO A TALIBAN COUNTRY’
“When you want to look at these type of challenges, what you
do is go through what we call the intelligence circle. When
you do the processing and analysis before dissemination
point, you discover that the end game for them is to just turn
this country to a Taliban type of country.

“It’s a mindset and anything goes. In other words, 10 percent
casualty, 20 percent casualty is allowed in trying to achieve
the end game of Islamising this country.

“The sponsors of Boko Haram and the bandits are the
problems. And Defence Headquarters, army headquarters,
naval headquarters, and the air force cannot do anything
about that. Buhari has to do something about it.

“The Interpol has the list of those people sponsoring Boko
Haram. I worked with Interpol. If they don’t know, they
should ask. The government of Dubai have the list of those
people during the trial, names were mentioned; they have the
list. The government also said they arrested 400 sponsors of
Boko Haram, why should a government not try those people
and bring peace, harmony and safety to this nation. Why
wouldn’t a government do that?”

https://www.thecable.ng/verbatim-what-retired-naval-officer-said-on-channels-tv-about-boko-haram-nda-attack

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