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Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by Cherez: 5:29pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
openmine:Don’t mind the bigots Till now the thugs who rode on LASG brt buses to attack people at Alausa have their faces all over the internet and we’ll known but not one has been arrested or is it that they don’t know the soldiers who went to LEKKI too? Naija na fraud from birth See Testimony again https://gazettengr.com/sanwo-olus-aide-on-sport-zulu-authority-led-thugs-who-macheted-endsars-testifier-activist/ |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 5:48pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
mapet: Since when did things started making sense in 9ja? You're operating on the believe that there's some logical pattern or rationale behind all this which to me sounds silly. From government to uniformed men angered by the report to government sympathizers, anyone could have carried out the attack since security is an afterthought in this country. The real question here is why are you so quick to dismiss her? Is it easier to believe she set it up herself? I'm just trying to understand your point of view. 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 6:16pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
abbey621: That question cuts both ways, why are others quick to believe her, and why are you questioning others for not believing her? You don't think they are entitled to their opinion and beliefs just like others with opposing opinion and beliefs? Is it easier to believe she did not set it up herself? I'm just trying to understand your point of view and why you are questioning other people for not believing her while ignoring her supporters. 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by Think4Yourself: 6:46pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by chrismastre5(m): 6:49pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
WORLDISMYPARISH:I will forgive for not understanding what I meant, the guy I mentioned was talking about justice in this trend but he was opposing the obigbo massacre just because it concerns ipob. I was trying to let him understand that it will touch him just like lakki massacre 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by christistruth01: 7:07pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
https://www.thecable.ng/missing-links-the-judicial-panel-of-inquiry-into-endsars-protest-and-lekki-tollgate-incident ___ TheCable Missing links: The judicial panel of inquiry into #EndSARS protest and Lekki tollgate incident Missing links: The judicial panel of inquiry into #EndSARS protest and Lekki tollgate incident November 20 10:09 BY ABUBAKRI YEKINI On November 15, 2021, the judicial panel of inquiry (JPI) delivered its report to the governor of Lagos state. Upon submission of the report, the governor set up a four-man committee chaired by the attorney-general of the state. The committee had two weeks to review the report after which government will issue a White Paper in accordance with the provisions of the Tribunal of Inquiry Law 2015. Advertisement However, before the ink had dried on the submitted report, a member or members of the JPI leaked an unsigned copy of the report in social media space in total breach of trust and the law setting up the JPI. This was in tandem with a threat issued by a panel member Ebun-Olu Adegboruwa, SAN, who had in a Facebook post threatened to release the report of the panel if the government fails to publish the findings and recommendations. After the leakage social and news media was awash with various seemingly damning quotes from the JPI report. Sadly, the commentaries, even from otherwise respected members of society show that most commentators had not even read leaked the report. I must first confess that even one death is bad enough and this write-up should not be seen as justifying the death of anyone, be they protesters, security agents, or anyone for that matter. Advertisement On page 283 paragraph 3 (A) and page 284 (C), the findings against the deployment of the military overlook the complete breakdown of law and order all over Lagos which led to the imposition of a curfew by the state government on 20/10/20. Uncontroverted evidence before the panel was that the military deployed all over Lagos and not just to Lekki tollgate (LTG) because the police had clearly become overwhelmed and could no longer maintain law and order. Page 286 (D): Panel held that it recovered bullet casings/shells at LTG when it visited the toll gate on 30/10/20. This contradicts the finding of the same panel on page 296, paragraphs 13 & 14: “Three trucks with brushes underneath were brought to LTG on the morning of October 21st 2020 to clean up the scene of bloodstains and other evidence.” This finding, the JPI stated amounts to evidence of a cover-up, yet it still found 2 bullet casings at the same cover-up scene 10 days after the incident. Page 287 (H): The medical evidence before the panel from hospitals who treated protesters said only 2 deaths were recorded in their facilities. This is contrary to the evidence of Doctor Lawson contained on pages 56 – 68 and Dr. Aromolate contained on pages 109-115 respectively. Advertisement Page 287 (K): Panel claimed it relied on evidence of one of the protesters who was shot and taken for dead, but escaped and stated that 11 corpses were in a van where he had been put in and presumed dead. However, Olalekan Sanusi, the protester in question was never stated to have testified before the panel. This crucial finding made by the panel was based merely on video footage of Olalekan Sanusi played by another witness Serah Ibrahim on page 165. On page 288 paragraph (M), the panel crucially held: “The evidence of the pathologist Prof Obafunwa that only 3 of the bodies that they conducted post mortem examination on were from Lekki and only one had Gunshot injury and this was not debunked. We deem it credible as the contrary was not presented before the panel.” However, in a complete turnaround from the above finding on page 288 paragraph M, the same panel went on to find that more (9) people died of gunshots wounds than what the pathologist who conducted autopsies on all the bodies picked up during the entire #EndSARS protest said. This is despite the panel saying that there was no contrary evidence to that of Prof Obafunwa before it. So page 288, paragraphs O and P are contradictory to the finding on page 288, paragraph M. On page 289, paragraph T, the evidence of the ballistic expert called by Lagos state, Dieye-Tonye Wille-Harry, testified that from the evidence which he reviewed was that no one died from military-grade bullets at LTG. Advertisement Page 292, paragraph J, although the panel held that the police were present at LTG and shot sporadically and killed protesters, the evidence established before the panel was that only one officer ASP Ayodele Olabode with one rifle was assigned to Lekki patrol on 19th October. Furthermore, no one identified or mentioned this officer as being responsible for any deaths at LTG and the panel made no such finding either. On page 293, paragraph N, the panel found that one protester was killed by the police around LTG. However, curiously, neither the name of the protester nor that of the alleged police shooter was provided. Even though in this paragraph no further details of this shooting were supplied, this is evidence of the levity with which the panel arrived at its findings. This finding is not backed up by any iota of evidence. It is unbelievable that a finding of death can be made in such a cavalier manner. On page 295, paragraph 9, the panel rejected the evidence of experts who relied on science to compile their report/testimonies and preferred anecdotal stories from so-called eyewitness accounts of protesters. On page 296, paragraph 12, the panel stated that picking of dead corpses by the Lagos State Environmental Health Monitoring Unit (LASEHMU) statewide and depositing them at mortuaries after the protests were evidence of a cover-up? Should the government have allowed corpses to rot on the streets to show there was no cover-up? How can the exercise of its ministerial mandate by LASEHMU be deemed as a cover-up? The corpses according to the panel were taken to mortuaries and in fact, this act accounted for the number of corpses for which autopsies were performed across the state during the crucial period. Advertisement The panel relied on the testimony of protesters that the Army prevented ambulances from ferrying away injured protestors. This was an uncorroborated piece of evidence. No single picture or footage of any ambulance being turned away was said to have been tendered before the panel. This is on page 296 paragraph 15. Furthermore, there is no evidence of any ambulance personnel being invited to testify before the panel to this effect. On page 296 paragraph 17, the panel speculated when it stated that #EndSARS protesters and victims of LTG were “largely unwillingly” to be identified in public for fear of prosecution and harassment. There was no evidence before the panel to this effect. One thing the protesters could not be accused of was shyness or fear of being identified. Protestors took hundreds/thousands of pictures and video footage during the protest and even during the panel sittings. This finding flies in the face of the reality of the character of the protesters and what their protests represent. On pages 296 -297, the panel set out a list of what it called casualties at the toll gate incident of 20/10/21. This list contains 48 names. No explanation was offered for how the panel arrived at this list, neither was any evidence provided as to how they became casualties. And that is why for example it has come to light that one Nathaniel Solomon listed at No46 on the list of casualties as deceased has been proven to be alive. On page 298, paragraph B, the JPI accused LCC of removing cameras to cover up. However, the unchallenged evidence of LCC was that the cameras which were removed were number plate reading cameras. Advertisement On page 301, paragraph C, the panel rejected the evidence of Lagos state’s ballistic expert because he didn’t speak to witnesses, pathologists, petitioners, protesters or doctors. The ballistic expert didn’t need to speak to these people as his evidence was concentrated on whether military-grade ammunition was used at LTG on 20/10/20. The expert said his team simply examined medical records, X-rays, pictures and footage of events at LTG and of the shell casings allegedly picked up at the LTG, this did not require him to talk to the persons mentioned by the panel. He also compared the bullet casings/shells found allegedly picked up at LTG with bullet casings or shells from military-grade weapons and locally made guns or pistols. The finding on page 302, paragraphs V & VI is inconsistent with the earlier finding regarding Prof Obafunwa’s testimony that only 3 out of the 96 bodies he performed the autopsy for were from Lekki and that only one out of the three corpses from Lekki had gunshot wounds. See page 288 paragraph M. The statement of the panel contained on page 302, paragraph VII is highly speculative. To say that unidentified corpses in the 96 autopsies lend credence to the case of the #EndSARS protestors that shootings by security agencies resulted in mass deaths. Apart from being highly speculative, there is no direct evidence backing up this assertion. How many corpses amongst the 96 died as a result of gunshot wounds for example? And who in particular fired the alleged shots? Prof Obafunwa’s testimony that the corpses were picked up all over the State during the period of the protest, the Panel however ignored this to suit its unfounded decisions. On page 302 paragraph X, the panel again rejects unchallenged and uncontroverted evidence about deaths in Ikoyi correctional centre to fit into its speculative narrative of deaths in LTG. The finding at para 4 page 14 of the executive summary which is supposed to be a summary of the main findings is not contained anywhere in the findings made by the panel. Curiously and in line with its narrative to uphold the unsubstantiated claims of the #EndSARS protesters the panel awarded the sum of N10m to Serah Ibrahim who was called as a witness for the protesters. This is most curious because Serah Ibrahim was not a petitioner before the panel. She also did not seek any compensation whatsoever. The panel however standing logic on its head decided to award a compensation of N10m to her calling it “severe trauma award”. The question is of all the witnesses who testified before the panel what made Serah Ibrahim different for her to be singled out for this generous award and what disqualified the other witnesses from the panel’s generosity. This is one of the strongest evidence of bias demonstrated by the panel in favour of the protesters. Evidence before the panel was that the 10th (Japhet) person on the victims’ list was shot at Ajah and presented at the hospital on 22/10/20. Yet the panel listed him as being shot at LTG (see evidence of Reddington Hospital at pages 54-60). Similarly, Mabel NNAJI (No 7 on the victims’ list) was said to have been shot by pellets as established by the evidence before the panel yet the panel said she was shot by the Military. (see page 57). This high-powered panel obviously doesn’t know that military-grade weapons do not fire pellets. Finally, throughout its 309 pages leaked report, not a single word of support or commiseration was offered by the panel to the several policemen slaughtered directly or indirectly as a result of the actions of the protestors nor to the thousands of innocent citizens whose property were looted, burnt or destroyed by protesters. The panel seemed to be too consumed by its bias for the protestors to recognize the “severe trauma” of these groups. Abubakri Yekini writes from Lagos. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by King44(m): 7:10pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
chrismastre5:this is the sense that you refuse to have. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by mapet: 7:18pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
abbey621: So because to you things don't make sense in 9ja, then you should also try not to make sense of things posed to you...and believe nonsense ? 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 7:25pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
plaindealer: Okay I don't know you from anywhere, don't know your character or anything but I see you bleeding days after arguing with a local tout would I be more likely to sympatize with you or discard your injuries and call you attention seeker? I know in this country, y'all are used to shaming/blaming victims but surely there's still an ounce of humanity left. You're entitled to your opinion, I just wanted to know where you're coming from so that I can see the reasoning behind your opinion but don't get it twisted nobody's taking away your right to an opinion so chill! |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 7:30pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
mapet: In advanced countries benefit of doubt is always given to the victim especially in cases of assault, this benefit stays until proven wrong. Statistically victims of physical assault are more likely to be saying the truth than fabrication but I understand this is 9ja, we value and respect our oppressors whether it is rape, child molestation, assault or kidnap, blame almost always goes towards the victim. It's not your fault really, you're just a product of the environment and generational conditioning......It is well! 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by openmine(m): 7:33pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
mapet:Bro 1. I know how things work in naija...no be today e start! 2.Then you better go back and read my writeup but this time do it slowly! The purpose of the threat is not to intimidate her to alter her initial statement in the panel which as you already know has been concluded...However 'they' can coerce her to make a public statement on the media reversing her earlier testimony thereby rubbishing the report even before the white paper has been issued! 3.The second rebuttal has taken care of that! Look at this guy! If there was a threat to your life or that of your family, will you not denounce your own school certificate? How much more a testimony that she can deny if that can preserve her life or that of her family members......You could call her a bigger fool but she is the one wearing the shoes and she knows where it pinches! You would even do worse! I wish your supposed logic had an ounce of rationality or simplicity as you hilariously said that will make you question the value of her life! Do you think anyone would be so bold to come out and say what has befallen them during the panel...? Would you and your likes not be the same people that will discredit her statements as allegations? A lady who gave her statement during the panel was threatened with near fatal bruises and instead of affirming how true by doing your findings, you are here doubting and claiming she is lying simply because her statements are hurting your overfed paymasters! 2 Likes |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 7:43pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
abbey621: Why are you throwing tantrums with all your crude and crass comment? Word for word, I asked you the same question you asked other people, so how come all of a sudden your own question turned into local tout? Since I reversed the same question that you asked, do you not see that you are also a tout and everything you called me? Do you not see how hypocritical and contradictory you sound? This is the problem with intolerant and crude people like you, you are too arrogant, you think you are above even your own words, you think other people must share your warped views and when they don't, you are allowed to call them names, you think you are allowed to question other people and their motives, but you can not be asked the same thing. You see how pointless, petty and hypocritical you are? It didn't even take much to expose you for what you are, a petty and contradictory hypocrite and intolerant goofer. 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 7:47pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
mapet: It's all about shoving and forcing their rubbish down your throat. It's OK for them to swallow lies and propaganda, but why get mad and upset because other people are not interested in their lies and propaganda? |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by chrismastre5(m): 8:01pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
King44:oga stop mentioning me |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by chrismastre5(m): 8:01pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
King44:oga please stop mentioning me abeg |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by ericmor: 8:09pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
Me no dey kuku believe anything involving politics again for dis country cus lies and propaganda too much . this could be APC and it could even be PDP doing just to get at APC government. That is why I keep saying 80% of our political leaders are evil. They can do anything to get in power. PDP rule, APC go dey sabotage, APC rule PDP go dey sabotage. Abeg, how Nigeria wan take move forward |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 8:16pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
plaindealer: Is it that you can't read or your comprehension level is low, where did I call you a tout? I even acknowledged your right to have an opinion, whatever issues you've got is not with me since you're clearly looking for fight and willing to make things up.....GTFO! 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by ikenna44: 8:27pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
You no go go your village go do endsars... Lemme see the yoruba person that will come and speak in your defense... Ode! |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 8:36pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
abbey621: I see you bleeding days after arguing with a local tout would I be more likely to sympatize with you or discard your injuries and call you attention seeker? Why are you sympathizing with bleeding and arguing with touts? Are you a tout because the only person I'm arguing with here is you? Why must I be bleeding and seeking attention because I asked you the same question that you asked other people? How exactly did tout and this vile and reprehensible comment entered the discussion, simply because I asked you the same question you asked other people? Are you too arrogant, pompous and above other people and the same question you asked other people? Must me asking the same question that you asked other people translate into bleeding, arguing with a tout and seeking attention? This silly tantrums just because you are too hypocritical, contradictory and intolerant to answer the same question you asked other people. See ya life... It's OK if it's your life ambition is to swallow lies, why must you force or question other people to swallow the same rubbish? |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 8:55pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
plaindealer: Ha.....illiteracy is a disease, I used an example to drive a point and you took it as a personal reference? Pele.....I gave you an example to show why people might sympatize with her and you took it as an attack? Dude...What are you smoking? I'm tired of arguing with a nimwit, like I said earlier...GTFO! 1 Like |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by King44(m): 8:55pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
chrismastre5:I want make you leave that your Bmc life |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by Fourwinds: 8:56pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
APC is terrorist and bandits are collaboration of APC |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 9:01pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
[s] abbey621:[/s] Same petty, intolerant and hypocritical rubbish. Now you are sounding boring and redundant. Next time, don't ask what you are too petty, contradictory and too hypocritical to answer.. Just look at him foaming at the mouth. Comedian, go and sit down somewhere.. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by Dreadful: 9:03pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
You see this stupid country all of you are dying to protect will consume all of you. End the zoo otherwise it will end all of you. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
plaindealer: Are you done or you still want top blabber some more? They are not laughing with you, they are laughing at you....ODE! |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by plaindealer: 9:17pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
[s] abbey621:[/s] Same boring rubbish.. Next time, don't ask what you are too petty, contradictory and too hypocritical to answer.. ^^^^^^^^^ This is your takeaway message, always abide by this very important takeaway. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by goody2019: 9:29pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
What do we really believe now? Everything is mixed up. Panel report is being disputed with verifiable facts. Claims and counterclaims. Still waiting for more to unfold. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by gstream: 9:41pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
oyatz: More perfect way?. Like, how they killed sowore's brother?. Or how nicely they've been running the country?. I am still trying to understand you point because, I am yet to see what this government has done perfectly...not even stealing or corruption. |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by gstream: 9:50pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
plaindealer: Guy, I am following your replies to abbey and co & also analysing same...I must confess, you have deviated from the subject matter..and you really do have a biased view on the subject matter, no doubt & may I ask, to what end? |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by ivandragon: 12:49pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Well, if the shite massacre could be covered up, covering up some killings should be too much of a problem... |
Re: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by Iykenuwa(m): 7:26pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
tammyf: If votes do not count, how did Buhari become president when he ran against an incumbent president? If votes do not count, why do politicians bribe, fight and pay for it? If votes do not count, how come Oshiomole, Tinubu and APC could not have their way in Edo state? Votes do count, but people who refuse to participate in the electoral process are part of the problem. |
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