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Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by Tzar(m): 12:09pm On Dec 17, 2021
This Malami guy is an unrepentant evil force in the GMB rule. He has consistently chosen to be on the wrong side of history throughout this notorious administration.
I hope the legislature will have the courage to veto the bill if Buhari as expected choses to tow the line of the inglorious advise he keeps getting from Malami.

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Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by orisa37: 12:10pm On Dec 17, 2021
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 12:22pm On Dec 17, 2021
bigpicture001:


You don't know politics at all.. who proposed direct primary to outs ambode..?

Who proposed direct primary at the APC in Edo that made obaseki to lose..

Both are tinubu.. that is his most trusted weapon to win a primary election... He is the one pushing for this direct primary


You and him are saying same thing na
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 12:24pm On Dec 17, 2021
Basic123:
so,why are they now scared of direct primary. I don't know how Tinubu will specifically or specially benefit from direct primary


He is the most influential candidate thats why. With indirect, governors can send in their boys against Tinubu
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 12:26pm On Dec 17, 2021
eldoradoxx:
Under the direct primary which Malami and Buhari are against , what qualifies you to vote at a party primary is your Party membership card signifying that u are a registered party member. Under the indirect primary, the politicians themselves elect delegates representing various wards and interest groups within the party such as former officials of the party, former or present political appointees and office holders in the party.
The implication is that direct primary fully democratizes the electoral system by bringing out quality government or representation in that u must satisfy the greater majority of your party members who you may not be capable of fully cover with ur bribe, that u are the best to fly the party' s flag.
Indirect primary is a cash and carry system. Just keep enough money to buy the delegates and u get the party flag as its candidate.




Still, this is a matter for each party to decide; not one that should be forced upon them
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 12:28pm On Dec 17, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
The truth is that Tinubu is not afraid of direct primary. And I keep wondering why others are afraid of direct.

Well, as it is, let us keep watching if Buhari will sign it into law or not. But I know direct is the best for democracy.


No one is against direct primaries. Forcing it as the sole mode of producing candidates is the issue here; it is undemocratic
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 12:31pm On Dec 17, 2021
princdebola201:
ipob bureau of politicscheesy

There is nothing like pro buhari in Apc. Every member of APC is literally pro Buhari including tinubu because he is the leader of All.

In APC you re either in ACN caucus or CPC caucus.
80% of the states you mentioned belong to Acn cacus. ACN is the largest shareholder of APC formation till this moment the disgruntled minority can't pull any string than bide time for r grandstanding.
The only anti-Tinubu element is badru,fayemi,el rufai, and bagudu.
Some are neutral while majority re on Acn caucus.
90% of APC national assembly caucus with both senate president and speaker re on asiwaju camp.
If you think it is only Asiwaju you re fighting then you re naive.
If Asiwaju pull out of APC today the party will die a natural death. Buhari is not a politician that can manage party crisis thats why the party keep going through internal squabbles


ACN cannot do without CPC as well. Stop overstating his importance there
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by Nobody: 12:33pm On Dec 17, 2021
DubaiLandLord2:
Direct primary will be costing a lot of money.

Not all Political parties will be able to afford it
But they can afford to buy votes. Right? grin
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by Nobody: 12:49pm On Dec 17, 2021
ityP:



No one is against direct primaries. Forcing it as the sole mode of producing candidates is the issue here; it is undemocratic
It is a out yto be passed like any other law. It was debated in the senate. So, where does force come in?
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 1:52pm On Dec 17, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

It is a out yto be passed like any other law. It was debated in the senate. So, where does force come in?


If it becomes a law, that means, political parties would be forced to stick to direct primaries and only that. That's undemocratic. Political parties should be allowed to choose which one they want to use
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 1:54pm On Dec 17, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

But they can afford to buy votes. Right? grin


Na individuals dey buy votes; not the political parties. And whether direct or indirect, people will still buy votes.
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 17, 2021
ityP:



Na individuals dey buy votes; not the political parties. And whether direct or indirect, people will still buy votes.
So, are you responsible for the political parties' responsibilities? Is it from tax payer's money.

The individuals who want to contest are political members. So, let then divert the money to campaign. No be dem wan do politics? Abi na your money? Eh na. Let then divert the money for buying votes to campaigning and organizing the elections. Abi na your money? So, werkn be your own there?
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by Nobody: 2:06pm On Dec 17, 2021
ityP:



If it becomes a law, that means, political parties would be forced to stick to direct primaries and only that. That's undemocratic. Political parties should be allowed to choose which one they want to use
How is it undemocratic? Are you saying stakeholders should not be concerned how each party chooses its candidate?
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by princdebola201(m): 3:39pm On Dec 17, 2021
ityP:



ACN cannot do without CPC as well. Stop overstating his importance there
Acn was already doing miles better than CPC.
Acn was nigeria second biggest political party that has govs, national assembly lawmakers in north and south. The minority leaders in senate and house of rep was acn .
Buhari was the only thing CPC can offer.if buhari don't start learning out to play politics his CPC faction will die after his tenure
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by AyelalaOo(m): 4:10pm On Dec 17, 2021
na Buhari tell am make he do all these. Buhari is a lawless person and useless president of that country.
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 4:27pm On Dec 17, 2021
princdebola201:
Acn was already doing miles better than CPC.
Acn was nigeria second biggest political party that has govs, national assembly lawmakers in north and south. The minority leaders in senate and house of rep was acn .
Buhari was the only thing CPC can offer.if buhari don't start learning out to play politics his CPC faction will die after his tenure


ACN will never smell president. Na yoruba party. The northerners had their roots in PDP then. Make Una no too make mouth abeg. You need the north just as the north need you. Stop feeling important
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 4:29pm On Dec 17, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

How is it undemocratic? Are you saying stakeholders should not be concerned how each party chooses its candidate?


The stakeholders should enforce whatever they wish in their own parties. It shouldn't be binding on all parties. If APC agree to use direct, that's fine. No law should force PDP to do same. No need arguing sef. Direct primaries can never be the sole methodology. Dem no born national assembly to veto the president if he says otherwise
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 4:30pm On Dec 17, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

So, are you responsible for the political parties' responsibilities? Is it from tax payer's money.

The individuals who want to contest are political members. So, let then divert the money to campaign. No be dem wan do politics? Abi na your money? Eh na. Let then divert the money for buying votes to campaigning and organizing the elections. Abi na your money? So, werkn be your own there?


No need arguing. Direct primaries will never be compulsory. Tell your party to do direct and don't force mine
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by princdebola201(m): 7:00pm On Dec 17, 2021
ityP:



ACN will never smell president. Na yoruba party. The northerners had their roots in PDP then. Make Una no too make mouth abeg. You need the north just as the north need you. Stop feeling important
cpc too never smell presidency until ACN came through.
Acn was already making inroads into north. It was only a matter of time AcN dislodge pdp without cpc on board.
CPC was never a real threat in local politics in core North .they couldn't push pdp away in gubernatorial elections.
Buhari factor was the reason why they keep defeating PDP in presidential elections in core north 2003,2011,2015,2019.

If APC ends today cpc structure will collapse in core North because the unifying factor buhari is not a politician.
South west will return back to Acn.
Acn and pdp will eventually round up the states in core north.

Do you know any CPC governor elected on ballot before formation of APC?
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 7:03pm On Dec 17, 2021
princdebola201:
cpc too never smell presidency until ACN came through.
Acn was already making inroads into north. It was only a matter of time AcN dislodge pdp without cpc on board.
CPC was never a real threat in local politics in core North .they couldn't push pdp away in gubernatorial elections.
Buhari factor was the reason why they keep defeating PDP in presidential elections in core north 2003,2011,2015,2019.

If APC ends today cpc structure will collapse in core North because the unifying factor buhari is not a politician.
South west will return back to Acn.
Acn and pdp will eventually round up the states in core north.

Do you know any CPC governor elected on ballot before formation of APC?



I don finish this speculative argument boss. We are keenly observing what happens 2023. We shall see
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by eldoradoxx: 8:39am On Dec 18, 2021
ityP:




Still, this is a matter for each party to decide; not one that should be forced upon them
The law can force the parties to adopt direct primary as the only means of conduct of primaries.
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 8:43am On Dec 18, 2021
eldoradoxx:
The law can force the parties to adopt direct primary as the only means of conduct of primaries.


Thats not democracy. The whole thing is what is delaying the electoral bill. Las las, na there e go dey until they correct that clause
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by eldoradoxx: 1:14pm On Dec 18, 2021
ityP:



Thats not democracy. The whole thing is what is delaying the electoral bill. Las las, na there e go dey until they correct that clause
What is not democracy, when it is the Democratic order in the National Assembly who represent the generality of Nigerian people who are amongst potential voters in any party primary is proposing this amendment. If u observe, the beneficiaries of the indirect primaries, the Governors who compile delegate list and in effect determine the entire political structure of their States both at NASS and State Assemblies that are fighting this amendment. It is the indirect primary system that is undemocratic. A system that allows Governors determine delegate to every party primaries rather than all party members is undemocratic.
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 2:22pm On Dec 18, 2021
eldoradoxx:
What is not democracy, when it is the Democratic order in the National Assembly who represent the generality of Nigerian people who are amongst potential voters in any party primary is proposing this amendment. If u observe, the beneficiaries of the indirect primaries, the Governors who compile delegate list and in effect determine the entire political structure of their States both at NASS and State Assemblies that are fighting this amendment. It is the indirect primary system that is undemocratic. A system that allows Governors determine delegate to every party primaries rather than all party members is undemocratic.


It's the undemocratic indirect some parties want. Inec has said it doesn't have money to support direct primaries. No need beating around the bush. National assembly no get mind to veto the president on this. They'll amend the clause and then, you can force your party to do direct. Other parties that want indirect would do same. If not, then electoral bill go wait for another 10 years
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by eldoradoxx: 3:33pm On Dec 18, 2021
ityP:



It's the undemocratic indirect some parties want. Inec has said it doesn't have money to support direct primaries. No need beating around the bush. National assembly no get mind to veto the president on this. They'll amend the clause and then, you can force your party to do direct. Other parties that want indirect would do same. If not, then electoral bill go wait for another 10 years
Let's wait and see if the national Assembly won't veto the President. The members of NASS are worried about their political future being determined by the respective Governors of their State who control the delegate list, they are ready to go the whole way to save their career. It was Direct Primary that saw Buhari win tve last nomination in 2019 to run for second term. Who bore the cost. Don't be deceived by this cost analysis that is false. Every political party has ward executives and officers and offices, these are the venue for primaries. If inec has enough staff to conduct election, they can monitor simple primaries which they are not even conducing. Let the money used by candidates in purchase of forms which runs into tens of billions be used for the conduct of direct primaries,it is what it is meant for not a revenue for political parties.
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by ityP(m): 5:20pm On Dec 18, 2021
eldoradoxx:
Let's wait and see if the national Assembly won't veto the President. The members of NASS are worried about their political future being determined by the respective Governors of their State who control the delegate list, they are ready to go the whole way to save their career. It was Direct Primary that saw Buhari win tve last nomination in 2019 to run for second term. Who bore the cost. Don't be deceived by this cost analysis that is false. Every political party has ward executives and officers and offices, these are the venue for primaries. If inec has enough staff to conduct election, they can monitor simple primaries which they are not even conducing. Let the money used by candidates in purchase of forms which runs into tens of billions be used for the conduct of direct primaries,it is what it is meant for not a revenue for political parties.



This National Assembly no get mind to veto the president. That would be their own undoing. Let's watch and see. I hate Buhari because he doesn't know what being a president is all about but the decision he is taking concerning that clause in the electoral bill is commendable. Malami, too, for the first time has spoken sensibly. Like I said, any party should be left with a choice of how to select their own candidate. APC is a rich political party. Conducting direct primaries won't be a big deal for them. APC and PDP are not the ONLY political parties in naija. If the National Assembly members are scared of direct primaries, they can go back to their individual party meetings and enforce direct primaries there. Other parties will decide between the two
Re: Malami Writes Buhari, Says Mandatory Direct Primaries Will Cause Confusion by LordviccoDaGuru(m): 5:40pm On Dec 18, 2021
grin

It's a welcome development

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