Posers on Ironsi and abolition of federalism.

Those who contend that Ironsi's Decrees 34 didn't abolish the true federalism and resource control we started with at independence should in very simple language explain what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded expressions in his May 24 1966 National Broadcast reproduced in part below:

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Its well

Interests from black liquid gold had blindfolded their sense of understand against such decrees and yet nothing reasonable is achieved due to hatred and greed

Who killed Akintola?

Please help me with answer

Op and stvpidity
tomorrow Nigeria will appoint Orji Kalu as a puppet but once he commit one blunder they will come to blame Igbo not minding igbo hate his lootocracy
Modified
Since you claimed ironsi removed regional government which is yet to materialize
Because every region rejected it
Aburi accord agreement states that Gowon should return Nigeria to regional government officially
Why did gowon renegade after signing that document

Wish for others what you wish for yourself

Investigative:
Op and stvpidity
tomorrow Nigeria will appoint Orji Kalu as a puppet but once he commit one blunder they will come to blame Igbo not minding igbo hate his lootocracy

You and idiocy are Siamese twins. Why can't you address the issue raised? Are you this daft and moronic that you can't answer a simple question but resort to abusive language characteristic of your people?
Tell us what Ironsi meant by those lines or remain quiet.

SlyDev:
Who killed Akintola?

Please help me with answer

Captain Nwobosi

Deadlytruth:


You and idiocy are Siamese twins. Why can't you address the issue raised? Are you this daft and moronic that you can't answer a simple question but resort to abusive language typical of your people?
Tell us what Ironsi meant by those lines or remain quiet.

You want me to stoop low to bigotry to address your stvpidity

Before Gen Ironsi’s unification decree in 1966 ,Awolowo’s Western Region had it’s own busy UK Embassy on Great Portland St in London

It had to be closed down because of the unification decree and the Federal Government later took over the building

Was the decree in the interest of the Igbo as many people tend to believe? The newly discovered oil at the time was found in the Eastern region. If the idea was for Igbo to annex oil wealth, are we not talking of oil already in their kitty? If you take a view of the issue from the other angle, won't you see that the 1963 Constitution which places resources in the hand of the regional governments was prevailing. This means that some people may have been afraid the new found oil would place an enormous premium value for Easteners. What would have been the possible means to remove this economic interest from the eastern region and ensure that other interests benefits? Was it not by two possible means - 1. look for a possible grey areas, cause divisions and possibly sponsor dissident groups to break away. 2. Collapse the existing federal structure into a unitary government. Inspite of the fact that Ironsi was an Easterner, was his Decree at the time intended to favour the East? More studies should be done to reveal who Ironsi truly represents a and also to unveil the region and the real people behind the promulgation of decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.

This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

This matter again? Well, let me repeat what I said before,,,

Re: Aguiyi-ironsi Did Not Dissolve Regionalism Nor Did He Introduce Unitary

wordcat(m): 12:32pm On May 02
Fundamentalist:
Very lame argument. You think you can rewrite history .

No one can rewrite history.
After the death of Ironsi, the regional governors according to HISTORY were;

Eastern region- Lt. Colonel Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu

Western region- Lt. Colonel Robert Adeyinka Adebayo

Mid Western region- Lt. Colonel David Ejoor

Northern region- Lt. Colonel Hassan Usman Kastina

Go and celebrate your holiday. Regional government was intact during and after the death of Ironsi.

Rugaria:
This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

Revisionism of the highest order

The main reason for ironsi death was in revenge for the perceived ibo coup of January 15th....a coup that saw the killings of only leaders of other tribes....no single ibo leader was killed which led to enmity between ibos and other tribes (ibos would act the same way if they were in the shoes of other tribes.

Ironsi was killed also because of the perceived soft spot he has for the ibo coup plotters as he refused to the needful by killing the coup plotters which further enraged the other tribes.

If ibo leaders were so gruesomely murdered and hausa fulani leaders were left untouched....wont ibos seek revenge like the northern millitary officers?

Deadlytruth:


You and idiocy are Siamese twins. Why can't you address the issue raised? Are you this daft and moronic that you can't answer a simple question but resort to abusive language typical of your people?
Tell us what Ironsi meant by those lines or remain quiet.

You really have high expectations that a Igbo will have sense? Having sense is a taboo to them.

Investigative:

You want me to stoop low to bigotry to address your stvpidity

You are just a confirmed victim of moronic plague. Stooping down low indeed when you actually obviously have no answer to give due to being actually guilty of the mess Nigeria is. AfghanEASTern pig!

You said it all!

Rugaria:
This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

Rugaria:
This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

Very apt

Deadlytruth:

You are just a confirmed victim of moronic plague. Stopping down low indeed when you actually obviously have no answer to give due to being actually guilty of the mess Nigeria is. AfghanEASTern pig!

Read your comment again
I cants stoop low to your level of bigotry

wordcat:
This matter again? Well, let me repeat what I said before,,,

Re: Aguiyi-ironsi Did Not Dissolve Regionalism Nor Did He Introduce Unitary

wordcat(m): 12:32pm On May 02
Fundamentalist:
Very lame argument. You think you can rewrite history .

No one can rewrite history.
After the death of Ironsi, the regional governors according to HISTORY were;

Eastern region- Lt. Colonel Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu

Western region- Lt. Colonel Robert Adeyinka Adebayo

Mid Western region- Lt. Colonel David Ejoor

Northern region- Lt. Colonel Hassan Usman Kastina

Go and celebrate your holiday. Regional government was intact during and after the death of Ironsi.

You get time to respond to this media rats
That always feed on propaganda

Investigative:

Read your comment again
I cants stoop low to your level of bigotry

A depraved AfghanEASTern terrorist who kills his own brothers in the Sad East Region talking about not stooping low to answer a simple question. Have you ever checked your dictionary for the meaning of stooping low before using it or you just caught it in the air? What can be lower than killing one's own blood just because of political differences?

Deadlytruth:

A depraved AfghanEASTern terrorist who kills his own brothers in the Sad East Region talking about not stopping low to answer a simple question. Have you ever checked your dictionary for the meaning of stopping low before using it or you just caught it in the air? What can be lower than killing one's own blood just because of political differences?

Have you have your own party

What is unanswered there? Ironsi who I believe masterminded the first coup all along using Nzeogwu and some of his other boys made the decree that took powers away from regions to the centre. Why were the attacks only in Kaduna, Ibadan, Lagos and none in the Eastern region if not well-planned ethnic cleansing.

Why didn't he execute the coup plotters but instead left them to continue living large like heroes while himself (Ironsi) and Ojukwu went after Adaka Boro's life, killed Niger Delta soldiers for declaring their own republic.. same thing Ojukwu later did and was expecting a pat on the head from Nigeria.

Igbos have destroyed so many things in this country right from the first republic and are still doing so till date.

The past is the past Igbos played their role albeit wrongly, Yorubas played their role, albeit tribally.
Northerners played their role, albeit too politically
The main thing is that we forget the Past nd work together to make a United Developed Nigeria. Yh.

Rugaria:
This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

Don't waste your time with this half baked thread. This topic is extinct and buried like Tinubu's presidential ambition A biased person will always see what they want to see regardless of what is in plain sight.

All these sorts of threads always start brewing in the build up to elections

Deadlytruth:

Posers on Ironsi and abolition of federalism.

Those who contend that Ironsi's Decrees 34 didn't abolish the true federalism and resource control we started with at independence should in very simple language explain what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded expressions in his May 24 1966 National Broadcast reproduced in part below:

Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

For your information it is very easy as ABC to understand meaning of a word/words also easy to do simple research, for the Word (Intended) used by Ironsi if you had known the meaning you won't be here asking this stupid question.

The problem with the person that started this thread is that they are more interested in what Ironsi said than what Ironsi did

Forget what was said, concentrate on what was done

Did Ironsi abolish the Regions or Regionalism? No he did not, the same 4 Regions that were existing when he came to power was still there when he left power

Ironsi intended to end intense regionalism so he appointed Governors over the former regions now subdivided into provinces but retained 50% resource control. Gowon created states and removed resource control.

Even a day old child could figure out which of them abolished regionalism but bad belle has blinded some of us

joeyfire:
Ironsi intended to end intense regionalism so he appointed Governors over the former regions now subdivided into provinces but retained 50% resource control. Gowon created states and removed resource control.

Even a day old child could figure out which of them abolished regionalism but bad belle has blinded some of us

Afonja are coming with their propaganda

Investigative:
Op and stvpidity
tomorrow Nigeria will appoint Orji Kalu as a puppet but once he commit one blunder they will come to blame Igbo not minding igbo hate his lootocracy

The same way igbos are telling yorubas that they have been president for 8 years, forgetting that Obasanjo is not the Yoruba candidate in 1999.
Obasanjo was brought by the igbos and northerners but tomorrow igbos will tell you that Yoruba has already ruled the country for 8 years.

Sunday2021:
The same way igbos are telling yorubas that they have been president for 8 years, forgetting that Obasanjo is not the Yoruba candidate in 1999.
Obasanjo was brought by the igbos and northerners but tomorrow igbos will tell you that Yoruba has already ruled the country for 8 years.

Another blame game so igbo brought obasanjo instead of themselves