Kobojunkie:
Backslide? Do you mean his invitations to popular singers like Don Moen, the other Nataniel man among others is cause to conclude he has backslidden? Neverminding the fact that the doctrines and traditions of his church are of men and not of God, one of them being the lie that Salvation comes at no cost to you?

Isn't it hypocrisy listening to these gospel rock stars at home and pretending to not listen to them in church? Ironically all the songs from all these rock stars are sung by a youth choir, song from guy penrod etc

sgtponzihater1:
This guy's have suffered alot, and this protest probably comes from a place of pain.
They were made not to watch television for a long time
They were made to avoid flashy cloths and things for a long time
Watching movies was out of bounds, except maybe mountzoin movies
Playing jazz, rock and dance music was forbidden
They could not attend other people's churches for music concerts, relationship talks, youth hang outs etc
Only for the Church to change direction 360 degrees, and introduce the same things they denied members for years, and for the Pastor to dine and commune with those he stopped his members from interacting with years ago.

This will be heart breaking for many, especially the old ones who have wasted years living in false modesty, and are now too old and too out of touch to reinvent themselves.

The lesson will be to follow God and not the way of man. As God is the only force that will never change.

PonziHater

Christianity guarantees suffering, all that will live godly must suffer. But if you call not dressing naked or going to night club suffering, well you're in your own world. DL members for a very very long time and percentage of their existence have not been denied the best foods spiritually, abundance of life, joy, good education, music, professions, promotion and the many basic goodies of life. If you feel pained that they miss/missed out by not watching TV, hello i have big TVs almost everywhere, i have not watched one minute of TV this year. i do use it/them for other functions though. Oyedepo was telling young people the other year not to waste their lives on TV, phone and internet. So what exactly was missed. BTW, 360 degree is no turn but same thing, i guess you want to say 180degrees which would be a lie. The Deeper life i know still doesn't "permit" those things you mentioned. God doesn't change but His children including Peter and Paul are being constantly CHANGED into God's image. There are twists and turns when God truly leads you, otherwise it will just be an unchanging straight down.

premierlead:
Prince Dele Banjo should have seen it as development and not another way round

Baba just wan trend, don't mind him.

Nezzjnr:

Lol

Is this what a supposed Dlbc member is meant to say??

When did church turn to a place of Concert or rather Enjoyment??.

Why has the same Catholic Church we all castigate refused to change their way of worship??....

Church isn't about gathering crowd.... It's all about the impact being made in the lives of people and making them ready for the Kingdom.... It's really bad if you change your doctrine or standard just to keep members in the church.

I'm not saying the church is derailing on it's doctrine but this your statement no follow at all.

And before you come for me.... I was born and brought up in the church and still a member.

God will help us.

Speak for yourself ( those castigating Catholic Church, many are greedy men who's intentions were to steal church funds to enrich themselves but we're stopped by the Catholic rules, and opened their own church and starts preaching whatever they like and uses church funds as they like ), Catholic Church is the mother church and it's rules and methods of worship is very simple and respected by every members of the church including the POPE and it's no respeccter of any person because it's not found under greedy men who only wants to enrich themselves and their families with church money.

subcbouy:
Isn't it hypocrisy listening to these gospel rock stars at home and pretending to not listen to them in church?

How are they gospel rock stars? Do you even have any idea of what rock stars are or you are just bandying high sounding words gleefully like a kid?

May God himself take charge...

Such a pity...a zombie is truly ignorant.

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How are they gospel rock stars? Do you even have any idea of what rock stars are or you are just bandying high-sounding words gleefully like a kid?

Didn't you read him to call them rock stars? I guess you are one gleefully sounding like a kid now.

haconjy:
Deeper Life is about to go!!!

No. Deeper Life is about to grow.

It's about to evolve. Which is normal. If Pastor Adeboye of RCCG had followed the template of his predecessor (the founder), the church would not have grown to this extent. It woulda remained a local Yoruba only church.

Kumuyi is just trying to pave the way for the new Pastor, so people will not be shocked when he (the new pastor) introduces some new concepts.

Funny thing is, Pastor Kumuyi had hinted something like this about a decade ago.

People, both members and non members, are just getting the gist now.

Pastor David Ibiyeomi built a new home for the elderly and handed it over to the Catholic Church. If your pastor do the same how will you rate him

They will never tell the truth no matter what.
As long as the money is flowing in, they don't care.

If you're not a Catholic, do not see yourself as fool, you have been played and used.

Nezzjnr:

Lol

Is this what a supposed Dlbc member is meant to say??

When did church turn to a place of Concert or rather Enjoyment??.

Why has the same Catholic Church we all castigate refused to change their way of toworship??....

Church isn't about gathering crowd.... It's all about the impact being made in the lives of people and making them ready for the Kingdom.... It's really bad if you change your doctrine or standard just to keep members in the church.

I'm not saying the church is derailing on it's doctrine but this your statement no follow at all.

And before you come for me.... I was born and brought up in the church and still a member.

God will help us.

Scammer protesting against other Scammers..

Religion is a SCAM!

daughters13:
The anti-indecency campaigner and deeper life member, Prince Dele Banjo has staged a peaceful protest at the Deeper Life Headquarters at Gbagada, Lagos.

The protest is in connection with the introduction of unconventional music to Deeper Life.

Prince Dele Banjo stated:

"We are surprised about the introduction of unconventional music as well as the invitation of Gospel rock stars to Deeper Life. We are also surprised about the invitation of local Christian musicians that are not advocates of modesty to deeper life.

We are surprised because pastor Kumuyi who is our father in the Lord did not raise us his children with such music. Instead, he raised us with modesty, holiness and the belief that we should worship God with our book of hymns alone using low toned and humble songs.

Pastor Kumuyi was the one that taught us all we know about modesty and holiness, so we are surprised that our teacher is changing direction and he is inviting international Gospel rock stars and local musicians that are not advocates of modesty to come and sing at deeper life.

We strongly believe that as a holiness church, deeper life ought to stick with our choir and our God given hymn book alone. We don't need unnecessary noise from these American gospel rockstars and these local Christian musicians.

Our God given and humble choir at deeper life that consists of those lovely teenagers, keyboardists and trumpeters is enough for us at deeper life.

Since he is our father in the Lord, we hereby request an explanation from him; we want to our dear father in the Lord to defend the invitation of rockstars and local Christian musicians that are not advocates of modesty.

We hold in our hands the book of hymns in order to prove to everyone that all we need in deeper life is our God given book of hymns.


Thank you very much"

What is this nonsense. You Christian fanatics and fundamentalist will receive the greatest shock of your lives on judgement day.

God did and has not appoint any man on Earth to be the gatekeeper of heaven or the judge of what is acceptable worship. If you look through the Bible, then probably you'll understand what the Bible says about praise and worship so all you holier than Christians can fūck off.

The only authority in Christianity is the Bible and revelation of God to man not your self righteous, better pass my neighbour Christianity.

Imagine protesting the invitation of a minister who came to praise and worship God in the church. Rubbish

nzeobi:


Tech specialist, I want to learn an IT skill if you have any to teach me I will be grateful

which of the IT skills to be precise?

rikithor:

I have defended this on Facebook that that 'old religion received from our old patriachs of faith and preached, practised and felt in deeper life church is what we want.
Jesus owns a church,God can and is still using,no one is irreplaceable.
Was born into DLBC in the 80s, remembered travelling in molue with other brethren to attend church services every Sundays and how we sang such heavenly inspired hymns as
"What is the hope you have
The kingdom of God
Is the hope I have
The kingdom of God"

Also remembered how as I got lost (about 5 years) then in such a mammoth crowd after close of church services and announcement made over missing but found child(me) happened twice,my parents,dad saw all as holy adventures

The doctrines strict,if some say so,but good for disciplining the soul. Its helping us today and should be sustained.

You must be a very selfish carnal man. So all you care about is that something helped you. What about the billions of other people that it doesn't help? One will have thought you had some solid ground to stand on like the Bible and God's move through you in saving souls and bringing some mighty Revival. But nothing, all you have are judgmental minds and devilish accusations to cast on people that are actually doing something.

daughters13:
The anti-indecency campaigner and deeper life member, Prince Dele Banjo has staged a peaceful protest at the Deeper Life Headquarters at Gbagada, Lagos.

The protest is in connection with the introduction of unconventional music to Deeper Life.

Prince Dele Banjo stated:

"We are surprised about the introduction of unconventional music as well as the invitation of Gospel rock stars to Deeper Life. We are also surprised about the invitation of local Christian musicians that are not advocates of modesty to deeper life.

We are surprised because pastor Kumuyi who is our father in the Lord did not raise us his children with such music. Instead, he raised us with modesty, holiness and the belief that we should worship God with our book of hymns alone using low toned and humble songs.

Pastor Kumuyi was the one that taught us all we know about modesty and holiness, so we are surprised that our teacher is changing direction and he is inviting international Gospel rock stars and local musicians that are not advocates of modesty to come and sing at deeper life.

We strongly believe that as a holiness church, deeper life ought to stick with our choir and our God given hymn book alone. We don't need unnecessary noise from these American gospel rockstars and these local Christian musicians.

Our God given and humble choir at deeper life that consists of those lovely teenagers, keyboardists and trumpeters is enough for us at deeper life.

Since he is our father in the Lord, we hereby request an explanation from him; we want to our dear father in the Lord to defend the invitation of rockstars and local Christian musicians that are not advocates of modesty.

We hold in our hands the book of hymns in order to prove to everyone that all we need in deeper life is our God given book of hymns.


Thank you very much"

The point is it is in the scriptures to praise God with timbrels, dancing and noise when it is the time set in Worship Services for such. Hymns also have their place. If you don’t see what the leadership of the church has seen you are best advised to leave and go elsewhere that fits your bill. It is not in good taste to stay in DLBC and be throwing stones. It is divisive. You could get into trouble with God. The church of God knows no such practice. Let Everyman be fully persuaded.

Africans and religion na one no be two, na why we be mumu be dat. Christianity is about your own personal conviction, not rules of man. Nigeria Christians are so lazy even including me that we don't seek personal spiritual growth by reading bible and praying in our secret domain, but all we do is to follow all what G.O or pastors said and also the doctrine of the church. I don't see anything bad with Dunsin's and Bassey's music.

The songs in the hymn books were they composed by God himself?

There's a standard and that standard must be strictly adhere to, since the death of pastor kumuyi's wife righteousness, holiness and standard died with her,

This man is wearing eye-glass, is it Biblical? The Hymn he is referring to, if he knew some of those that wrote them personally he would have still referred to them as unrighteous.

I like Deeper life but I dislike the "we against them'" mentality which makes them see themselves as the only righteous or puritan Christians. But of course, he has lived that way for ages and it might take him a while to adjust to the changes happening around him. He stood and worshipped inside a church that was constructed by "sinners". Did he ask if the workers of the company that built that church were all born-again before he agreed to worship inside?

subcbouy:
Didn't you read him to call them rock stars? I guess you are one gleefully sounding like a kid now.

i read you and replied you. Is he your daddy or teacher? Are you not grown enough, blaming someone else like Adam and Eve for what you did? You called them gospel rock stars. So are they gospel rock stars or not?
Caution, watch your sanctification before you fly at me like a possessed bird for being corrected online by a mere mortal.

I grew up in DCLM and I've been a worshipper all my life. But while growing up I realized some of the doctrines of our church are man-made and not Holy Spirit inspired.
I remember some years back around 2014 during question and answer time after our STS on a Sunday like this, Someone asked a question at IBTC, "Are all this contemporary musicians of today truly worshipping God and why is it that we don't invite them to our congregation. Pastor Kumuyi himself happened to answer that most of this musicians are singing for money and not to worship or glorify God.
So today, if he's inviting thesame people he has condemned in the past he should let us know the church is not offering them cash price to entertain her members.
If he is changing his stands he should do this with convincing explanation why there is need for that and not leave his flocks to figure out things in there own.

mywells:
There's a standard and that standard must be strictly adhere to, since the death of pastor kumuyi's wife righteousness, holiness and standard died with her,

Why don't you just follow her quickly? Oh, you're going to hell since righteousness already died right?

Christianity without modesty is erroneous. Dressing and actions are physical yardsticks to measure modesty. If your heart is clean, let not your dressing and action say otherwise. If your dressing is modest but your heart and actions are dirty, try purify the heart and the actions. The state of my heart cannot be easily understood by other people. But my dressing and words can be easily evaluated by humans. Stop saying that dressing does not define you. If dressing does not define you, wear sports wear to a bank interview or wear suite to play football.

Christianity without modesty is erroneous. Dressing and actions are physical yardsticks to measure modesty. If your heart is clean, let not your dressing and action say otherwise. If your dressing is modest but your heart and actions are dirty, try purify the heart and the actions. The state of my heart cannot be easily understood by other people. But my dressing and words can be easily evaluated by humans. Stop saying that dressing does not define you. If dressing does not define you, wear sports wear to a bank interview or wear suite to play football.

Tobechuckwu:
To some Deeper life members, heaven is only meant for them.
Some of them have forgotten that it's d same heaven that every born again Christian is going, not deeper life heaven.

I've known Nathaniel Bassey for a while nd I've listened to his music over time, I can boldly say he's actually called by God. He has stand d test of time in gospel music.

So Deeper life members still see Nathaniel Bassey nd Dunsin as sinners which are not fit to be in their crusade.

That's mean if Baba Adeboye nd Bishop Oyedepo should come to their crusade, it'll be something else.

Now I see d reason Pastor Kumuyi has to change some many things in d doctrine of deeper life before he leaves

Dont mind them. . Dustin and Nathaniel have stand the test of time. .

How holy quote and unquote are the deeper life choir members that they are clamouring for. . What a deception and delusion of babes.

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Timidangote:
I grew up in DCLM and I've been a worshipper all my life. But while growing up I realized some of the doctrines of our church are man-made and not Holy Spirit inspired.
I remember some years back around 2014 during question and answer time after our STS on a Sunday like this, Someone asked a question at IBTC, "Are all this contemporary musicians of today truly worshipping God and why is it that we don't invite them to our congregation. Pastor Kumuyi himself happened to answer that most of this musicians are singing for money and not to worship or glorify God.
So today, if he's inviting thesame people he has condemned in the past he should let us know the church is not offering them cash price to entertain her members.
If he is changing his stands he should do this with convincing explanation why there is need for that and not leave his flocks to figure out things in there own.

most of this musicians are singing for money and not to worship or glorify God..

This remains true. i see the problem of many of you. You are pained to the marrow because of your pride. Most of you are holier than thou so you are angry that others were "approved" by your pastor. Heaven go so shock many of you, you fit vex go hell fire.

This one has been indoctrinated....

Religious fanaticism is a very bad

That's one of the root cause of terrorism, in case you were not told...

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I read you and replied to you. Is he your daddy or teacher? Are you not grown enough, blaming someone else like Adam and Eve for what you did? You called them gospel rock stars. So are they gospel rock stars or not?
Caution, watch your sanctification before you fly at me like a possessed bird for being corrected online by a mere mortal.

If you can slowly read carefully, he called them rock stars and ask a question if isn't hypocrisy listening to them at home and pretending to not listen to them in church. You can ask him about who is a rock star. STOP JUMPING into a conversation you didn't understand.

Rawtruth1:
I was groomed in Deeper life from my teenage to adulthood. I was at Ayobo, Deeper life Bible school and attended many workers meetings from 1985 to 1999.

The truth is that some things are falling apart. I don't know whether it's because of the age of our Daddy in the Lord. But his recent romance with politicians and other worldly minded musicians and individuals is raising alarms in the minds of his children both in Deeper life and other churches.

The protest is apt and valid

Nathaniel Bassey a worldly musician?
I hope you don't sing his songs or have them in your device.

Heaven will shock many people

safesurfer:
No. Deeper Life is about to grow.

It's about to evolve. Which is normal. If Pastor Adeboye of RCCG had followed the template of his predecessor (the founder), the church would not have grown to this extent. It woulda remained a local Yoruba only church.

Kumuyi is just trying to pave the way for the new Pastor, so people will not be shocked when he (the new pastor) introduces some new concepts.

Funny thing is, Pastor Kumuyi had hinted something like this about a decade ago.

People, both members and non members, are just getting the gist now.

How do you people even term growth sef.

Is it by accumulating members... Planting branches here and there??....

God is more concerned about the souls that are won for him than having numbers..... Do you see how most Rccg Pastors behave.

I'll hate to admit this... Rccg has lost it... Adeboye gave a lot of them free hands and it's late already.

What shall it profit a Man if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul.

I have not disagreed with you on anything here, but on this one you got it wrong bro.
I am a deeper life member to the core. Pastor Kumuyi has not changed a dime, these modifications are very very necessary as the move of God in the last days knows no boundary. God is the God of all flesh, you cannot continue to dwell on non scriptural doctrines to enslave people and scare those who needs to be save away.


quote author=Righteousness2 post=109594994]Brother, as a young man born in Deeper life Bible Church in the Early 80's and Grommed in DLBC until 2004 when I moved to the The Lords Chosen, I must say you have a very Valid Protest!

I Perceive GOD is using you to Pass a Very Strong Message to HIS Church and HIS servant. The ways of GOD ALMIGHTY are not the ways of Men.
The ALMIGHTY HOLY GOD will not change HIS Standard because of a Changing World.

I Pray HIS Servant and one of the Core Holiness Apostles and Generals of this Generation, Pastor WF Kumuyi takes note of this Peaceful Protest.[/quote]