D-reloaded, hang on!

Egnite, I must admit u had a lousy first impression and I judged u subsequently as such. U're alright, but I still disagree, though I'm not sure what I'm disagreeing about. All I can boil stuff down to is that The Wachowski bros had a far better film in The Matrix than reloaded and revolutions could ever be. The overall idea I concede is an art form and also I concede that The Matrix, Harry Potter, POTC and LOTR have all made it into the best trilogies of this century. But what I question is not the concept but the portrayal. The way the matrix seemed to work in the first installment isn't the same as the other two. In fact the last is a lil different from the second. Bottom line poor continuity and trying to explain it away as they being different movies doesn't sell. Period!

And to humor you. The Wachowski bros are artists (though I see more of the artistry in Animatrix than the Matrix trilogy). Proceed,

Hi,

Vesc, iice and all my folk, I dey hail.

Vesc, when you say best trilogies I think you may have to trim that list to just LoTR. I saw the Animatrix, I wanted my money back same as for the Matrix sequels. I was a mad fan of the original The Matrix so much so that I used to visit the website everyday and even follow the theological/psychological and philosophical, intellectual discussions that it spawned. I agree with Egnite that the movies are art. Undoubtedly. But to say the Wachowski Brothers planned that from the beginning is about as believable saying James Cameron will top Titanic.

Granted they borrowed heavily from manga/anime, cyberpunk, video games, Bladerunner-esque and alt-reality concepts and meshed them supremely but that was supposed to be the backdrop not the driving force of the movie. The Matrix as a movie worked so well because it was able to be several different things to different people; those who wanted an action movie got it, those looking for theological links found them, engaging storylines? Check! Big explosions and killer martial arts+graphics? Hi-Five!! The only flaw I saw/see in the movie is still that the kiss-off lines and dialogue coulda done with more work.

That the movie's mix succeeded and connected with audiences was due to several factors

- George Lucas blew it with Episode 1 and managed to tip us to ", see The Matrix instead.".
- Escapism in the wake of Columbine et al
- Manga/Anime was (re)blowing up in the West (Akira, Oedo etc)
- Sometimes movies that don't spoon-feed are actually welcomed in theatre.

Okay gotta stop!

Unto other things:
I just saw "I'm Not There" and it was brilliant. I think Cate shoulda walked with that Oscar!!
Finally all the cool movies for this year/summer are closer than ever.

Well there you have it! Da Supremo has said it all. What a comeback. Probably reading earlier posts and just couldn't contain yourself anymore, eh Spikyn? I've never seen the Matrix trilogy with your insight which BTW is very rich and quite right on! Egnite, there's another eye to look from! I also loved Animatrix, maybe it was just in contrast with how I liked The Matrix trilogy as a whole (Plus, singularly the Matrix movies were OK, but it was the downsliding from the first to the third that ticked me off). But I'm beginning to think we might be giving it too much importance, cuz I saw The Matrix yesterday, though in another language and I was not blown away again considering that I saw it last in 2000. I remember everything but seeing again, I spotted some more flaws. I guess Vescucci isn't Vescucci eight years ago.

Cate will sure win many many more. It's in her eyes and genes. She's just pat!

A lotta films to look forward to this year and I'm surely not lag behind. I hope.

I've never had so much good news i one thread. Except for the part of Charlton's death (It's been all over the ABC network) besides, the dude's old enough. He played Moses when I probably wasn't alive.

The highlight of everything is the Matarese Circle film hopefully in the works. A black dude playing Scofield is definitely a new twist and Denzel playing it is kinda funny as Scofield was much younger in The Circle. If it was Countdown I'd have understood casting Denzel. Probably means, they're not going to stick to the original story very much, but I'm still excited nonetheless. Lets see what they spin off.

Samuel has indeed been all over the place but I think he's always been all over the place. Superhero for him will be quite new. Captain Marvel? That's something. I'll have to read up on that as I have no idea what they'll be trying to pull of with that!

And finally another MK movie wold be cool, but I doubt if Lambert will star. Definitely Rayden will probably make some sort of a cameo, but bringing back Lambert as Rayden will force them to bring back some familiar faces which I do't think will sit well with me. Except for Johnny Cage who I think is supposed to be dead. Anyway na them sabi!

So finally sup with y'all? iice thanks for the Matarese info. The old man will turn in his grave if they botch this one!

On a non-movie note, I watched Idols -East Africa on Saturday, I was livid and I think I have a serious problem with people who have no business being in subjective authority over other human beings being there as judges/critics. Ratatouille had a very valid point in it's handling of the Anton Ego character and the nature of criticism of another person's work/effort/art.

Back on track: I've just seen Fool's Gold, AvP:Requiem, August Rush and am re-watching Firefly. What are y'all up to?

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I liked August Rush. I mean I was seeing all the "pitfalls" and see everything to complain about and yet I liked it. Mainly for it's unpretentiousness as much as for its soundtrack.

iice, no mind me, the Idols thing ticked me off to bits.

Eyah Spikyn. I didn't even know the idol thingie was still on. Anyways, I'm glad they had the sense of Idols, West Africa and not a naija version as you would have blown your top completely if that were the case. I haven't been doing much Tv lately but I did manage to see AvP too, weird huh? saw some horror movies courtesy my freak friend who says 'The hills have eyes' is the closest he'd ever got to being scared by a film. i saw some oldies. Maybe me and Spikyn will share some thoughts on the old greats. My personal favorites being Olivia De'Havilland, Mickey Rooney, Judy Garland, Errol Flynn (everybody loves him) and later ones like James Dean and, lemme just wait for Spikyn

Hey Vesc! Are you into "classic movies" like that?

Yup! Love em! iice captured my stance in so few a words. Love the fact that they have sooo little to work with. But then they didn't know that. Plus, in say 20 years from now, a film like LOTR will look like Clash of the Titans looks like now. And really, when you watch these films with a little feeling, I can't see how you would at least like em. There are few obnoxious actors like Ben Affleck around them too. And the stars were really stars. Nowadays, there are probably as many stars in the U. S. of A as there are in a clear night sky!

I watched The Other Boelyn Girl & The Life Before Her Eyes in past couple of weeks. Both pretty good movies

Lol iice have you seen the trailer for Tropic Thunder? Shit looks hilarious. well mainly cos of Robert Downey Jnr' character anyway

I enjoyed it for what it was. I thought it was fine, most people were expecting historical facts, many things about Henry and his situation with Anne Bolelyn was ignored but I didnt mind, I already know the real story anyway besides this was about her sister Mary, not Anne

and I watched it mainly for Natalie Portman anyway plus Eric Bana is hott

What about Spike lee.

all I know is that Evan needs to stop playing the same bloody roles. I mean she's good at it and all but I'd think by now she'd try to be abit more diverse

iice:



[color=#9900ff]I won't say am a huge fan. I like some of his works mostly for saying things as they were and not backing away from it.

Well I guess I don't watch much of his stuff but since he is one of the few black ones I give him props.

Well the Wyans are trying but some of their stuff is , Anyways I watched a movie with Juvinille and almost threw up. Granted my friends bought for $1.00 at Walmart for fun but it sucked so bad we laughed rather than watch the piece of (please fill in the blank)

Go write a novel @Vescucci, gaddamnit man

lol iice, well soon she's gonna have to grow up cos I'd hate to see her in her 40s still trying to play the role of the "wild teenager"