aribisala0:


Even God does not have that kind of power


It is illusory



Russia has effectively been under sanctions for decades and is already inured to them

Can the US stop Russia selling oil and gas? NO

The main things Russia sells are Energy and weapons and Russia has been moving away from dollars to the Euro for years
Also Russia has a very large land mass , plenty of Natural resources and is very self sufficient making most of what it needs.
The EU does not have the same appetite for conflict that The US and UK have . The reality is just like Putin grabbed Crimea he will grab Ukraine and Nothing the West can do about it

The bolded gave me a good laugh..
The aim of the sanctions is to prevent cooperation between russia an the EU to keep the EU firmly under US control. So yes sanctions are working as intended..

They slowly make Russian economy bleed..
Investments escape fast and grow seriously.
Sanctions are not meant to be instant but slow..pressing and depressive..

Who said sanctions don't work? Russian economy is in constant decline since the sanctions have been introduced. Russian currency is in decline..even their military budget..sanctions work economically but they also hamper Putin's cronies since they can't leave country to visit exotic locations and they also feel the pain because their assets in US and EU were ceased...So again sanctions work very well..

GreyLaw:


He thinks this is child's play. Many of these posters haven't travelled much outside Nigeria and so cannot really distinguish reality from fiction. Russia has been messed up a long time ago. They used their media to brainwash their citizens but now with social media it's difficult to hide the truth from them.

Those inner states apart from St. Petersburg and Moscow you can easily get a female companion for cheap. Lol... They are willing to run away with you so long as you have money to take care of them. Their media show you Moscow and St. Petersburg but the rest cities are shit.

That is what the US want you to believe

Russia hosted one of the best football World Cups in memory and we all saw that it is not as shitty as the West portray

It may not be wealthy as America but what are the facts

Its population is under 200 million. It sells 5 x as much oil as Nigeria, a lot more gas and is one of the largest sellers of weapons. It is a net exporter of food
Its GDP per capita is $10000 similar to that of China

FERNANDEZISBACK:

The bolded gave me a good laugh..
The aim of the sanctions is to prevent cooperation between russia an the EU to keep the EU firmly under US control. So yes sanctions are working as intended..

They slowly make Russian economy bleed..
Investments escape fast and grow seriously.
Sanctions are not meant to be instant but slow..pressing and depressive..

Who said sanctions don't work? Russian economy is in constant decline since the sanctions have been introduced. Russian currency is in decline..even their military budget..sanctions work economically but they also hamper Putin's cronies since they can't leave country to visit exotic locations and they also feel the pain because their assets in US and EU were ceased...So again sanctions work very well..

Do you have any data to back up your claim that the Russian economy is in decline?

Sanctions can be said to be working if they achieve their objective. That is not happening Russia is escalating the behaviour that triggered the sanctions s
THEY ARE NOT WORKING

FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..

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juman:
European countries handling ukraine issue badly.
From the beginning o.
They allow america to bully them.
Why?
They have their own interest.

Exactly, they allowed America to push them(eu) into war while their own(US) citizens are far away in America living in peace,

Do these sanctions work?

as if RUSSIA gives a damn about these gov sanctions.lol! they all need RUSSIA, and any sanctions on Russia will directly impact their economy, especially EU/UK who desperately need Russia's natural gas and oil!

In a layman's terms, lemme explain what Russia is trying to do by granting independence to two Ukraine territories.

It's just like Buhari granting two local governments in Niger Republic independence from Niger because they have a higher Hausa population than indigenous Niger Republic.

It's a violation of international law. You can't give independence to a country that isn't within your power.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

US is the biggest economy..yes most world trade happens in US dollars but to make the sanctions effective it need to threaten to sanction third parties...

So for US sanctions to be effective unless US has monopoly on something they will threaten to sanctions not only the country.. but also companies trading with that country...So for example if US sanction Nigeria and BMW export cars there US will sanction BMW and refuse to import from BMW or export anything to that company. Since US is a huge market and most companies of some value have some connection to US this makes the sanctions effective.

For sanctions on Iran big oil companies are reluctant to invest in the oil business in Iran because it can hurt more than they will earn...

Without these third party sanctions, US sanctions wouldn't be effective and companies outside US would get a competitive edges in that region...
What other country has this kinda power?

Russia is up against EU and US... Crippling Russian meagre economy of just a little above a trillion dollars wouldn't be a problem trust me.

Unless the sanctions hit Russian oligarchs and their assets abroad it will not stop dictator Putin.

aribisala0:


Do you have any data to back up your claim that the Russian economy is in decline?

Sanctions can be said to be working if they achieve their objective. That is not happening Russia is escalating the behaviour that triggered the sanctions s
THEY ARE NOT WORKING

The Russian economy by all accounts (both domestic and external) show that since sanctions began in 2014 has not exactly struggled as been forced to find compromise.

When sanctions began, the Russian Federation had strong industrial, technological and agricultural interests in Germany, France, Austria, Hungary in particular. Russian grain and produce flowed into Germany and German engineering products flowed into Russia. Russia relied on France for night-vision systems for its military, and the large Mistral ship project was scrapped, forcing Russia to more than likely ditch France for future deals. US directed sanctions forced EU countries to deal with Russia at their peril; interestingly enough Russian rocket engines were never initially affected and were allowed to continue on their way to NASA.

Russian companies were hit hard, but all it forced them to do was look Eastwards; China. The Russians essentially were forced away from their traditional market in Europe and pushed into the Chinese markets, to which they in turn became a market for Chinese goods too..

The EU has effectively lost the traditional Russian market to China, and in return the US has begun sanctioning European states that try and deal with Russia, and China, and Iran, and anyone else the US doesnt like...

The Economic Expert Group (EEG), an independent Russian company, estimated the total losses from the sanctions in the period 2014-17 at $600 billion. Bloomberg says that sanctions may have knocked as much as 6 percent off Russia's economy over 2014–18..

The Russian economy went from $2.2 trillion nominal in 2013, before the sanction, to $1.3 trillion in 2015, after the sanctions. That is a $900 billion dent, or more importantly in terms of percentage - it killed 40 percent of the Russian economy. The US had an $16 trillion economy in 2013...
You can argue as much as you want but the fact remains the same the Russian economy is feeling the heat no doubt..

D1official:

Russia is up against EU and US... Crippling Russian meagre economy of just a little above a trillion dollars wouldn't be a problem trust me.

A problem is a problem no matter how little..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..

They all depend on Russian gas ,or they will freeze ,Lugansk donesk are Russian speaking areas of ukraine

GreyLaw:


No need arguing this mate. More sanctions are waiting; weightier ones for that matter. Sanctions don't finish. And there is no new world order. If ever there was something like that it will be China. Russia is a poor country. Till date Russia cannot even match Portugal's GDP per capita and they have been trying for ages. Apart from Moscow and St. Petersburg most other Russian cities are messed up.

New world order? Lol... China would be laughing at your statement. Even China no want war. Many people for the sake of hatred or pure boredom want a change of the guard, but no, the US is centuries ahead of every other country when it comes to military abilities and intelligence. For me: US, UK, Israel, then others

Even China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.

I can't believe that I am agreeing with you.

GreyLaw:


He thinks this is child's play. Many of these posters haven't travelled much outside Nigeria and so cannot really distinguish reality from fiction. Russia has been messed up a long time ago. They used their media to brainwash their citizens but now with social media it's difficult to hide the truth from them.

Those inner states apart from St. Petersburg and Moscow you can easily get a female companion for cheap. Lol... They are willing to run away with you so long as you have money to take care of them. Their media show you Moscow and St. Petersburg but the rest cities are shit.

Which media are you talking about? The western media which are all American firms? Until you realize the media is americas most powerful tool, you won't stop being brainwashed. We had alot from them about North Korea.. they brainwashed you with so many bullshit about the country which happened not to be true. They said same about Russia but the country has been thriving well. They even hosted one of the best worldcups in history. Common man, wake up.

olas24u:

They all depend on Russian gas ,or they will freeze ,Lugansk donesk are Russian speaking areas of ukraine

What do you mean they all depends on Russian gas?

otokx:
Do these sanctions work?

sanctions make countries to be more innovative and creative

GTkester:



Loolol, don't flatter yourself! US and UK have all tapped out of sanctions. They have wasted all their sanctions on Russia since 2014, and now they do not have any leverage on Russia.

So, welcome to the berth of a new world order!!

No they haven't. The US can cut off Russian banks and businesses from having access to US dollar and that essentially cuts them off from the global financial system. This is something the Russians are afraid of and even Putin has said that if the US does such a thing, it will be considered an official declaration of war. Various tools in the US box. The US can go after all Putin's oligarchs who are known to secretly hold Putin's wealth.

Make Russia calm down na, Ukraine should even at least stop the process of joining NATO for peace to reign
...I watched a documentary on aljazeera news network about two kids living with their grand ma, their home was close to border with Russia where shellings by fighters vibrates like earthquake.

I felt for those kids.... terrible earth.

IhateYouMan:


The US and EU will cripple the Russian economy in no time. Watch this space.

Don't think too highly of the western European savages....I.e. EU and usa and UK

Africa is the future.

America under Joe Biden finally got what they have always wanted ... Trade war with Russia

FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..

We are heading into a multipolar planet, America is being distracted with COVID and Cold War antics. Putin simply needed to define the future of America by redirecting Biden's focus from Development into promoting Pharma products and waging wars.

It is a distraction, and nothing more.

What will happen will be a cyber war, and it will be worldwide. That is what is on the blueprint as I see it here

FERNANDEZISBACK:

What do you mean they all depends on Russian gas?

Russia supplies gas to Europe including ukraine ,they depend on the gas and they have a pipe line ,that supplies gas and they are currently building the second pipe line call nord stream2 .Does sanctions wont work

IhateYouMan:


The US and EU will cripple the Russian economy in no time. Watch this space.

Lool. You think Russia is Nigeria

Russia is self sufficient. They can deal with any sanction US throws to them

GreyLaw:
Hehehe... Putin is about to smell it. Next thing will be to target the man's personal investments and those of his cronies.

He be like say una no dey watch CNN or ajazera new sha.

olas24u:


Russia supplies gas to Europe including ukraine ,they depend on the gas and they have a pipe line ,that supplies gas and they are currently building the second pipe line call nord stream2 .Does sanctions wont work

Can they survive on supplying gas within Europe only?can their economy grow big that way?
Or don't you understand how sanction works?

The World is a very funny place ... Ukraine can join NATO and put Russia security in perpetual alert, yet Russia recognizing breakaway region is a problem.... Pikin wey talk say Mother Russia no go find rest , no go find rest too....

I don't even know why some stupid nairalanders are advocating for Putin. If Ukraine is Nigeria would u like him?

AstraDroid:


We are heading into a multipolar planet, America is being distracted with COVID and Cold War antics. Putin simply needed to define the future of America by redirecting Biden's focus from Development into promoting Pharma products and waging wars.

It is a distraction, and nothing more.

What will happen will be a cyber war, and it will be worldwide. That is what is on the blueprint as I see it here

How is America being distracted with covid?

IhateYouMan:


Wait till Russia mistakenly kills a NATO soldier and see what happens

What will happen? America will bomb Russia? What exactly will happen?

FERNANDEZISBACK:

The Russian economy by all accounts (both domestic and external) show that since sanctions began in 2014 has not exactly struggled as been forced to find compromise.

When sanctions began, the Russian Federation had strong industrial, technological and agricultural interests in Germany, France, Austria, Hungary in particular. Russian grain and produce flowed into Germany and German engineering products flowed into Russia. Russia relied on France for night-vision systems for its military, and the large Mistral ship project was scrapped, forcing Russia to more than likely ditch France for future deals. US directed sanctions forced EU countries to deal with Russia at their peril; interestingly enough Russian rocket engines were never initially affected and were allowed to continue on their way to NASA.

Russian companies were hit hard, but all it forced them to do was look Eastwards; China. The Russians essentially were forced away from their traditional market in Europe and pushed into the Chinese markets, to which they in turn became a market for Chinese goods too..

The EU has effectively lost the traditional Russian market to China, and in return the US has begun sanctioning European states that try and deal with Russia, and China, and Iran, and anyone else the US doesnt like...

The Economic Expert Group (EEG), an independent Russian company, estimated the total losses from the sanctions in the period 2014-17 at $600 billion. Bloomberg says that sanctions may have knocked as much as 6 percent off Russia's economy over 2014–18..

The Russian economy went from $2.2 trillion nominal in 2013, before the sanction, to $1.3 trillion in 2015, after the sanctions. That is a $900 billion dent, or more importantly in terms of percentage - it killed 40 percent of the Russian economy. The US had an $16 trillion economy in 2013...
You can argue as much as you want but the fact remains the same the Russian economy is feeling the heat no doubt..

What happened to oil prices between 2013 and 2015


The decline in GDP was largely driven by the crash in oil prices which affected Nigeria and
other oil exporters

You are not well informed

What sanctions exactly are you talking about?
The sanctions mainly target individuals and not the Russian economy stop lying just to win a pointless argument

The US still imports more oil from Russia than from Nigeria and Russia does good business with the EU
Your knowledge of the "sanctions" is very superficial
In 2019 the US imported over $30 billion from Russia
How much did they buy from Nigeria which is not under sanction?