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Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by CatANDratTHEORY: 1:01pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
kayuseful: His supporters wouldn't agree. They will tell you that it's traitorous for younger and more capable people like Prof Osinbajo to contest and also tell you that this is democracy, that anyone can contest. Bunch of clowns. Anyone wishing Tinubu on Nigeria is the real enemy of the people. Can you imagine? From Buhari to Tinubu. From one Tourist president to another. Amaechi, Osinbajo, Fashola et al are younger and more capable. 2 Likes |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by juman(m): 1:04pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Tinubu is buharis boy. All his going around he is doing it on behalf of buharis candidate. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Agbegbaorogboye: 1:15pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
babaolofin: The facts speak for themselves. One of the hallmarks of good journalism is unearthing the "top secret". I don't know how you come about being the gold standard for learning and critical thinking. I'm at pains to see its reflection on you. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by olatuns2017: 1:18pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
History555: Check his history and parent Don't confuse yoruba name |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by tiegahpor: 1:27pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
puremaker7: You are a GREENHORN in this matter.. Go and banter on Linda Ikeji blog... |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by CatANDratTHEORY: 1:28pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
BabbanBura: Thanks bro. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Abujason: 1:38pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
TINUBU IS CUMING!
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Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by SocialJustice: 1:48pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
seunmsg:What are you shaking head for? Buhari got APC 2019 presidential ticket through consensus. It is the person Buhari tells Adamu to give ticket that will get it. It is even good like this, no need to waste money buying delegates at national convention, the presidential candidate that will emerge will go straight to campaigning and also avoid post convention litigation. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by shinealight(m): 1:51pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Devil1Messenger: You’re not saying anything new. Why did Atiku, Kwankwaso,Tambuwal and Saraki leave APC? ... It’s because they had no permanent stake in the Merger and were only there for purely selfish reasons. They were just individual loafers with no party structure to lay claim to.... that’s why they could just pack their bags to leave. Now you want to compare these loafers to Tinubu who came with a registered party he had laboured for several years to build up from AD to ACN with several governors and virtually the entire SW under his leadership. I wonder who is in a position to sit the other down for a lecture about APC as you stated? Those guys were loafers and they remain loafers...even today they remain inconsequential fair-weather politicians!! |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Nobody: 2:00pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Agbegbaorogboye: You are not learned and exposed for thinking a document being used by guguru sellers on the street or Suya sellers at Zone 3 corner shop is one of the hallmarks of good journalism. The document commentators argued upon at Newspaper stand a week ago at Area 1 and Area 10 is now Vanguard unearthing of " Top Secret" to you. I overrated you. I am very sorry. Social media is something else. Note: There is no difference between the document on the street a week ago and the one on social media few days ago and the one with the President Buhari's signature (assuming it is his signature) Thank you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by tiegahpor: 2:02pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
seunmsg: Use that brain and do some "deep" thinking.. The APC party chairman with support of the President, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of this Republic of ours HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THE NEXT PRESIDENT.. Every aspirant should not be worried it isn't them.. They should be worried who Buhari has chosen... The OP seems to have read my mind perfectly.. He is ASTUTE in Political gymnastics and plots..a first I have seen on Nairaland.. PMB single handedly nominated Adams Oshiomhole....and "tinkered" with the move..it didn't really work as planned..but fortunately,his faltered schemes gave him a window into the picture of how not to go about such moves in that way....and remember he was dealing with states that had opposing figures like Okorocha,Gov Yari of Zamfara,Ajimobi of Oyo... Any one noticed that during the imbroglio of Adams Oshiomole and these characters,PMB was UNFLINCHINGLY UNPERTURBED Yes...he was TESTING THE WATERS.. He knew a Character like Tinubu will rear his head in the future to be President and subtly want to "blackmail" him to get to Aso Rock.. PMB had started his "schemes" since 2019,after he got re-elected.. He learnt well from the impasse of Adams struggle.. Better still,there aren't such characters in power as Yari, Ajimobi etc we speak.. Rochas is "loyal"...he is lucky to still be in the Senate...he won't "cough".. It's easy ride to put his "boy" on the Aso Rock seat.. PMB has a master's degree in Military Strategy from the Monte bland Military School in the US and he was tops in his class.. You don't f*ck around with his "strategy" background..the man is all "action" and no talk... Remember he didn't sign the Electoral Bill few months before his reelection in 2019 That was basically STRATEGY.. Atiku was cancelled our with the move.. LEGALLY SPEAKING! An OBJ couldn't stop him in 2019..he even went ahead to warn his supporters not to insult OBJ Who then are you Needless to say,the "appointment" of Ex gov Adamu of Nasarawa as APC Chair is a MASTERSTROKE that leaves PMB innocent.... Tinubu will not say "this man wants to purposely mess me up"..how can he say such?The amended Constitution has made is to be "fluid"... No one saw the Adamu Chairmanship coming.. I don't see how Tinubu will survive this one... BUHARI has proven once again that he is and has ALWAYS been THE CABAL! |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Devil1Messenger: 2:16pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
shinealight:As to whether they leave or not wasn't the original argument. I only argued that they were more influential in 2015 to buhari victory than the ACN blocks. As a testament to the fact that even tinubu wife complained bitterly how his husband was sidelined from 2015 to 2018 when those guys left. Tinubu was beaten squarely by those guys that he was only compensated with ministerial appointments so I can boldly say they sat Tinubu's down then. When half of dem left in 2018, buhari didn't find it easy in 2019. Just imagined it they all left? Amechi, Adamu that buhari is projecting for APC national chairman was also part of the new PDP den, any thing that made that man becomes the new chairman of APC, Amechi or anyone else from nPDP that remains will be the next APC Presidential candidate. Bet it |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by shinealight(m): 2:24pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Devil1Messenger: That’ll mark the end of APC, because they will lose the election, even with their rigging machine. Get yourself a comfortable chair to watch the movie... we don’t have long to wait, JUNE 3rd at the latest each party must present their flagbearer!! |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Spandau: 2:25pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
babaolofin: Toooooh! E pele o. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Devil1Messenger: 2:32pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
shinealight:That's our prayer. Let APC disintegrate because they really dealt with us 1 Like |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Nobody: 2:46pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Devil1Messenger: Let the words of your mouth and the meditation of your heart be acceptable to the Lord. If it is unacceptable, it would not be answered. Seunmsg, agbegbaorogboye and others can see that 99% of people analysing the document including the Newspaper, editor and social media commentators are anti APC. I know that before. The editorial and the commentaries do not represent the true picture of what is happening but their expectations. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Arysexy(m): 2:50pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
naija4life247: In your dream. Tinubu will rule your family and generations not me. Spits Tufiakwaaaaaa! |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Bobloco: 2:54pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
drlateef: The way you are so worked up about this IGR of Lagos State, and deliberately ignore that Tinubu is stealing a large chunk of it and also other things I raised makes me wonder Are you aware that Lagos State is the second most unlivable city after Damascus, Syria I am not holding brief for any politician but I want you to know that Tinubu is simply a greedy politician and there is nothing progressive about him Peace |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Bobloco: 2:56pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
babaolofin:
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Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by jude79(m): 3:10pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
In the 1st generation, the old east told awolowo of the west, "don't betray fellow southerners, the north will never trust you" did he and westerners listen, Nooo!! In the 2nd generation, the east again told abiola of the west, " don't betray old east, the north will never trust you" did he and westerners listen, Nooo!! In the 3rd generation, again the old east told asiwaju of the west, don't betray your fellow southerners, the north will never trust, did the westerners listen, Nooo!! Again, and again, and again, and again, they'll continue to betray their fellow southerners, again, and again, and again, and again, they'll continue to receive the karma that comes with it, greediness doesn't pay, those who supports it always ends up in it's greedy stomach. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by drlateef: 3:30pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Bobloco: Lagos is most unliveable is a lie. There are many outlets for propaganda all over the world. Ask them the criteria used in arriving at their statistics, you will be shocked at the level of bias. Lagos is the 5th biggest economy in Africa and more structures are springing up everyday. It’s a tiny land mass and problems of slums and litters etc will definitely arise. Despite the problems of developing world in Lagos, it still towers above other states in Nigeria. If someone did the blue print for development and it’s being followed, that person is better than all past and present Nigeria leaders who have no blueprint for development of Nigeria. Tinubu grew the IGR for over 109% at a time when Obasanjo deprived Lagos of federal money. Tell me of any politician who has done that in Nigeria. Enough of this bad blood, wailing will never stop, but you must be made to see reason somehow. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by tiegahpor: 3:42pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
naija4life247: Kid....... |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by tiegahpor: 3:42pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
naija4life247: Where is your late WRETCHED ILLITERATE father? |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Bobloco: 3:59pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
drlateef: If that same outlet had described Lagos State as the second most livable cities in the world, would you have asked for the criteria. Describing something as a lie and propaganda because it doesn't suit our narrative is not ideal There is no bad blood. The truth remains that Tinubu has done nothing exceptional in Lagos State, he is simply a greedy politician who doesn't have the interest of the masses 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Agbegbaorogboye: 4:49pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
babaolofin: Tell us the true state of events |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Agbegbaorogboye: 4:58pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
babaolofin: You doubt the authenticity of the document? Tell me about the "Top secret" then. Let me learn from you |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Nobody: 5:29pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
jude79: You are a nonentity. I spent 6 years in a University in the South East and know how shallow minded you can be. If Yorubas think like you, your brothers will not be in Lagos. I don't need to read your babbling and frustration. All what you wrote is nonsense and meaningless. Prof Achebe in his book " There was a country" vomited frustration against Awolowo. Nzeribe was at Jos Convention of 1993, nobody knew he was in existence. Out of frustration, he formed ABN against Democracy. Obasanjo faced much abuse and blackmail from Ekwueme camp late 1998 and early 1999 before PDP primary. You are only known for negativity whenever you are unable to form alliance for easy recognition. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Nobody: 5:57pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Agbegbaorogboye: Why are you disappointing me today. I overrated you. Did I say I doubt the authenticity? Are you just seeing this document for the first time through this Vanguard editorial? The only thing that has not been done is publishing it on Newspapers and on APC portal. In your opinion before the convention, is this type of document supposed to be on the streets? I can bet it, most of those concerned will first get their copies from streets or on social media. Then there is no need for convention again, they should just use virtual meeting. Everybody has seen the approved list, no more elected list. Alhaji Buba Galadima over a week ago has spoken that APC have no plan for convention. He said what they want to do is to announce approved list. You know, he is an elder and no longer part of APC. He has seen everything. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by ImperialYoruba: 11:17pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
I think the word "consensus" has thrown a lot of people off. All too often in Nigeria we attach to form and ignore substance. Consensus has always been a part & parcel of our politics since the military regimes, it is not a newly introduced concept by Buhari picking Adamu as party Chairman. I will give some examples to help you understand instances in which consensus has plagued us for decades. In our political landscape "consensus" can also be interpreted to mean "default acceptance". Concensus derives from concession or to conceed. Here are some crude examples... 1. Aisha is celebrating birthday and first ladies from 36 states attend. 2. Buhari's son is getting married and governors from 36 states attend or send delegates. 3. IGP is marrying off one of his daughters and commissioners of police from 36 states attend. I don't believe a first lady will be locked up or dethroned by not attending Aishat's birthday, or that a state governor will be impeached from power by not representing at Yussuf's wedding, and neither will a CoP be demoted if he refused to attend IGP wedding. So why has it become a tradition in Nigerian leadership? It is a ritual of cementing authority. It is indicative of abuse of power. Consensus leadership is meant to empower the process for social progress. A good example of consensus leadership is that instituted in Monarchy, where alternative views and deviations are not expected but permitted, and even tolerated. In the selection of Senator Adamu as consensus leader of the party it is now expected that when Adamu is having a celebration all APC zonal heads must attend. If that happens it automatically cements his appointment and establishes his authority. If any zone refuses to attend or send delegates it is viewed as rebellion against Adamu, but by extension against Buhari. Tinubu says he is running for Presidential race because Buhari has not objected. In other words, if Buhari had objected then he would have put his aspiration to side and not even bother to enter race. This is already a self-defeat. It is an admission that he intends to continue the Buhari policies and besides, he is running because of Buhari, not because Bola Tinubu wants to be President. It's a deceit! Buhari may not be educated but he is intelligently sophisticated. His native sense is superior and has proven as his channel for surviving the political plots that encircles him, many of which is weaved by accomplished eggheads with advanced education. BAT does not want to upset Buhari, so Adamu it is! All those in Tinubu's camp should stand down. Before the year ends we might hear that Adamu is giving his daughter to Malami's son to marry. ...just saying. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by highskies(m): 11:37pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by Aiel123: 7:09am On Mar 06, 2022 |
Invictuse:He lost those times because he heavily lost in ss,se,Adamawa,gombe, Taraba (north east) and nc. Infact, buhari votes defeating Jonathan was 15,424,921. Totat votes for buhari in SW is2,433,193. Minus the whole votes of buhari in the SW from his total votes you get 12,991,731, 138,569 more than Jonathan. Facts. |
Re: The Consensus Against Tinubu by shinealight(m): 11:36am On Mar 06, 2022 |
Devil1Messenger: https://tribuneonlineng.com/apc-zones-presidency-to-south-west-vp-to-north-east/%5B/quote%5D APC zones Presidency to SW…..last time I checked, Amaechi is not from the SW. I hope you’re sitting down o…so as not to faint! |
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