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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by johnw47: 12:03am On Aug 02, 2022
lost fraud jw janosky

you don't understand God's word, often posting scriptures that have nothing
to do with the subject

you don't understand what others say, replying in confusion

you don't even understand the screen shots that you post



you so dum aren't you, and such a never ending liar/a false witness before God:

Pro 6:16  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 
Pro 6:17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 
Pro 6:18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief
Pro 6:19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.



you love to blaspheme constantly, thing like calling the Holy spirit "the ole demon ghost":

Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.



you a heap big false accuser to, like the devil:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.



Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by johnw47: 12:09am On Aug 02, 2022
one of the signs that you belong to the devil is your constant lying

fraud jw's take note

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 11:03pm On Aug 09, 2022
The last Greek sentence at Acts 28:6 is the same last Greek sentence @ John 1:1.
Why shift the goalpost @ John 1:1?

The same Greek word for god is @ John 10:33, Acts28:6 & 1 Corinthians 8:5.
Why shift the goal post @ John 10:33?

The screenshot given by Trinitarian Biblehub PROVEN that Trinitarians are dubious lots.
They CHANGED Greek John1:1 & John 10:33 to favor their GIBBERISH.

Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 11:19pm On Aug 09, 2022
sagenaija:
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Janosky, Jesus said "Let your yes be yes and your no be no, anything else comes from the evil one"

This is the new world translation of John1:1:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

Do you believe the highlighted portion?
A simple yes or no will do.
Yes, definitely!
Jehovah God the Author of the holy scriptures & "the God of gods", calls each of His son a god in Heaven and Earth.
@ Psalm 82:6, John 10:33,Acts 28:6,Acts 12:22 &
1 Corinthians 8:5,
The testimonies of Jehovah God, Apostles Luke, John & Paul are RELIABLE.
Therefore,as a result, Emphatic Diaglott Bible and NWT as well as 12 other Bible translations gave the AUTHENTIC rendition of John 1:1.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by sagenaija: 12:07am On Aug 10, 2022
Janosky:

Yes, definitely!
Jehovah God the Author of the holy scriptures & "the God of gods", calls each of His son a god in Heaven and Earth.
@ Psalm 82:6, John 10:33,Acts 28:6,Acts 12:22 &
1 Corinthians 8:5,
The testimonies of Jehovah God, Apostles Luke, John & Paul are RELIABLE.
Therefore,as a result, Emphatic Diaglott Bible and NWT as well as 12 other Bible translations gave the AUTHENTIC rendition of John 1:1.

Thank you for letting us know that you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by johnw47: 12:11am On Aug 10, 2022
Janosky:
Abeg continue your mumu tantrums.
John W Sifia pained attention seeker.

lost fraud jw janosky

see how what i said is true:

johnw47:
one of the signs that you belong to the devil is your constant lying

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:52am On Sep 04, 2022
johnw47:


one of the signs that you belong to the devil is your constant lying

fraud jw's take note

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Spot on. Their whole movement is built on a lie. embarassed

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:42pm On Sep 04, 2022
sagenaija:
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Thank you for letting us know that you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.

Deuteronomy 10:17 ASV

17For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the terrible, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward"

Deuteronomy 10:17,ASV

17For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods".

Oga, Jehovah God is the God of gods.
At John 1:1, John reference Jehovah as "the God". Greek John 4:24, John and Jesus Christ reference Jehovah as the God.

Anyhow,Sagenaija & his fellow 3 deities worshippers wants to TWIST the Bible truth of Deuteronomy 10:17 & 1 Corinthians 8:5, it's their cup of tea.
Jehovah the God of gods PROHIBITS worship of gods.


Their cup of tea is NOT holy scriptures. grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:47pm On Sep 04, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Spot on. Their whole movement is built on a lie. embarassed

OLAADEGBU Trinitarian delusion is spot on! grin

Deuteronomy 10:17 & 1 Corinthians 8:5 is the Bible evidence against OLAADEGBU Trinitarian GIBBERISH & DELUSION.
. grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:56pm On Sep 04, 2022
johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

see how what i said is true:



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Deuteronomy 10:17, 1 Corinthians 8:5 & Psalm 82:6 are Lies to John W FRAUD & all 3 deities worshippers on this forum.

Churchgoers deceiving themselves.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by johnw47: 2:28am On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Deuteronomy 10:17, 1 Corinthians 8:5 & Psalm 82:6 are Lies to John W FRAUD & all 3 deities worshippers on this forum.
Churchgoers deceiving themselves.

lost fraud jw janosky

see over and over again how you love to blaspheme the Christian's JEHOVAH and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible at every opportunity
calling THEM: "3 deities/3 god's"
you also love to call JEHOVAH and Jesus and the Holy Spirit: "the 3 dogheads"
and you love to call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost":

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.



and of course you can never stop lying, and loving it, oh son of your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by johnw47: 3:29am On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Deuteronomy 10:17, 1 Corinthians 8:5 & Psalm 82:6 are Lies to John W FRAUD & all 3 deities worshippers on this forum.
Churchgoers deceiving themselves.

lost fraud jw janosky

no Bible verses are lies to me, that's just another example of what a liar you are

i believe in One God "JEHOVAH"
does that make me a "3 deities/3 god's worshiper

i haven't been in a church building for many decades
does that make me a churchgoer

see yet again and again how you frauds just keep repeating your lies over and over again:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by sagenaija: 7:49am On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Deuteronomy 10:17 ASV
17For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the terrible, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward"
Deuteronomy 10:17,ASV
17For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods".
Oga, Jehovah God is the God of gods.
At John 1:1, John reference Jehovah as "the God". Greek John 4:24, John and Jesus Christ reference Jehovah as the God.
Anyhow, janisky wants to TWIST the Bible truth of Deuteronomy 10:17 & 1 Corinthians 8:5, it's their cup of tea.
Jehovah the God of gods PROHIBITS worship of gods.
Their cup of tea is NOT holy scriptures. grin

Nevertheless, you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.

And you believe that the god with a small 'g' in John 1:1 created all others and to that extent, he is greater than them. True or false? Again, a simple answer will do here. But if I know you you will engage in your usual rigmarole.

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 7:57am On Sep 05, 2022
sagenaija:
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Nevertheless, you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.

And you believe that the god with a small 'g' in John 1:1 created all others and to that extent, he is greater than them. True or false? Again, a simple answer will do here. But if I know you you will engage in your usual rigmarole.

I love reasonings like this especially the use of believe in your postgrin grin grin

It will put the no get sense peddling peddler on the back foot or start his merry go round from Bible to merriam websters to interlinear to Bible lexicons to divert what was simply stated.

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 8:05am On Sep 05, 2022
@ Janosky

Do you believe or need to bow or bend your knees to g[/b]before you give glory to [b]G?
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:24am On Sep 05, 2022
sagenaija:

Thank you for letting us know that you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.

Acknowledgement defer from putting faith in, demons also acknowledged the existence of God {James 2:19} but are they ready to obey God? NO!

So we believe in God's word which says there are many gods in heaven and on earth but we worship only one God (JEHOVAH) through the teachings of His son Christ Jesus! 1Corinthians 8:5-6 smiley

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 8:31am On Sep 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Acknowledgement defer from putting faith in, demons also acknowledged the existence of God {James 2:19} but are they ready to God obey? NO!

So we believe in God's word which says there are many gods in heaven and on earth but we worship only one God (JEHOVAH) through the teachings of His son Christ Jesus! 1Corinthians 8:5-6 smiley

Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

Stop the merry go round!

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 4:55pm On Sep 05, 2022
achorladey:
@ Janosky

Do you believe or need to bow or bend your knees to g[/b]before you give glory to [b]G?
Ephesians 3:14-15 & 1 Corinthians 11:1,believe your Bible and have peace.
Copy the example Paul copied from Jesus Christ.
Or:
Atheist,Continue in your folly.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 4:57pm On Sep 05, 2022
achorladey:


Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

Stop the merry go round!

John 14:1 & John 20:17, ALLOW the words of Jesus Christ to reset your mind and thinking ability.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:01pm On Sep 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Acknowledgement defer from putting faith in, demons also acknowledged the existence of God {James 2:19} but are they ready to obey God? NO!

So we believe in God's word which says there are many gods in heaven and on earth but we worship only one God (JEHOVAH) through the teachings of His son Christ Jesus! 1Corinthians 8:5-6 smiley
Sagenaija is desperate to prove that he DELETED Matthew 4:10, John 20:17 and John 14:1 from his own copy of the Bible.
grin grin

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:24pm On Sep 05, 2022
sagenaija:
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Nevertheless, you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.
.

Deuteronomy 10:17
Jehovah is the God of gods."
Oga,did Jehovah God acknowledge other gods?
Sir , please Note my previous response:
Jehovah the God of gods PROHIBITS worship of gods (a god or goddess)


sagenaija:
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And you believe that the god with a small 'g' in John 1:1 created all others and to that extent, he is greater than them. True or false? Again, a simple answer will do here. But if I know you you will engage in your usual rigmarole.
This Bros is so desperate grin grin
Oga,Calm down and see your mistake:
In your own Bible,is the Word (Jesus) "the god", according to your claim?

Does Greek definite article ('g3588 the') preceed the second usage of g2316 in John 1:1?
The answer is No !!

Therefore, you DUBIOUSLY attach "the" (in your question) which your own John 1:1 Bible did not put there to reference the Word, Jesus.
From Genesis to Revelation, there is no verse,no chapter that reference Jesus (as "the god /the God) in that manner you have done.

Oga, your question is null and void.
grin

Ok, let's overlook your mistake of referencing the Word as "the god" (not found in your Bible or any Greek lexicon). angry
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John 14:28,1 Corinthians 3:23 & 1 Corinthians 11:3 , Jesus Christ and Paul (he converted) have answered your question.
grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:26pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Sagenaija is desperate to prove that he DELETED Matthew 4:10, John 20:17 and John 14:1 from his own copy of the Bible.
grin grin
There problem is how only Jehovah's Witnesses out of all the religions claiming Christians could decipher that Jesus is not the Almighty God whom Jesus referred to as our father and our God! John 20:17
So it's paining them that despite all their criticism JWs have proved to be the one and only organization of fishers making true disciples unlike them gathering crowds of misinformed churchgoers! wink

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Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:42pm On Sep 05, 2022
achorladey:


I love reasonings like this especially the use of believe in your post.

It will put the no get sense peddling peddler on the back foot or start his merry go round from Bible to merriam websters to interlinear to Bible lexicons to divert what was simply stated.
Oga, you are free to showcase Achorladey folly and MYOPIA.
Let everyone know and see what you have.
It's so good for everyone to observe it in n public.
grin grin grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:47pm On Sep 05, 2022
johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

see how what i said is true:



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Know nothing itibolibo.
Please take your IBERIBEISM offline.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 5:52pm On Sep 05, 2022
johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

no Bible verses are lies to me, that's just another example of what a liar you are

i believe in One God "JEHOVAH"
does that make me a "3 deities/3 god's worshiper

i haven't been in a church building for many decades
does that make me a churchgoer

see yet again and again how you frauds just keep repeating your lies over and over again:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
The same John W FRAUD who posted that Jehovah is God and Jesus Christ.

My brother "CAPTIVATOR" asked John W:
"So,You separate them?" grin


John W FRAUD wedded to LYING.
You worship one deity you call "holy ghost"
You worship another deity you call "the Son"
Still, you worship another separate deity you call "the Father".
How many are they?
Shame on you, DELUDED LIAR.
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 7:06pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Ephesians 3:14-15 & 1 Corinthians 11:1,believe your Bible and have peace.
Copy the example Paul copied from Jesus Christ.
Or:
Atheist,Continue in your folly.

Folly and atheist peddling peddler do you believe in g recorded in John 1:1?
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 7:12pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:

Oga, you are free to showcase Achorladey folly and MYOPIA.
Let everyone know and see what you have.
It's so good for everyone to observe it in n public.
grin grin grin
.

Myopia and folly peddling peddler, this is a public forum already. Indeed that poser by sagenaija but your merry-go-round ways into motion grin grin grin grin See plenty Bible verse you don cite up there grin grin grin

Simple question, do you believe? grin grin grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 7:15pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:


John 14:1 & John 20:17, ALLOW the words of Jesus Christ to reset your mind and thinking ability.

Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

See merry-go-round everywhere grin grin grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by Janosky: 8:08pm On Sep 05, 2022
achorladey:


Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

See merry-go-round everywhere grin grin grin
achorladey:
.

Myopia and folly peddling peddler, this is a public forum already. Indeed that poser by sagenaija but your merry-go-round ways into motion grin grin grin grin See plenty Bible verse you don cite up there grin grin grin

Simple question, do you believe? grin grin grin

John 14:1 - The Emphatic Diaglott New Testament (1942)
"Not let be troubled of you the heart; believe you into the God, and into me believe you."

The same John the apostle wrote the Gospel of John 14:1 & John 1:1.

The Word was a god, according to the Gospel of John,JWs believe that.
The same Gospel of John 20:17 & John 14:1, Jesus Christ PROVEN the difference between "worship" & "believe".

Achorladey atheist does NOT read nor study the Bible but would argue and showcase his MYOPIA.

Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by achorladey: 8:37pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:


John 14:1 - The Emphatic Diaglott New Testament (1942)
"Not let be troubled of you the heart; believe you into the God, and into me believe you."

The same John the apostle wrote the Gospel of John 14:1 & John 1:1.

The Word was a god, according to the Gospel of John,JWs believe that.
The same Gospel of John 20:17 & John 14:1, Jesus Christ PROVEN the difference between "worship" & "believe".

Achorladey atheist does NOT read nor study the Bible but would argue and showcase his MYOPIA.



The Word was a god, according to the Gospel of John, JWs believe that.


Merry go round finish grin grin grin
Re: The Word And The Watchtower: An Exegesis Of John 1:1 by sagenaija: 8:37pm On Sep 05, 2022
Janosky:


Deuteronomy 10:17
Jehovah is the God of gods."
Oga,did Jehovah God acknowledge other gods?
Sir , please Note my previous response:
Jehovah the God of gods PROHIBITS worship of gods (a god or goddess)


This Bros is so desperate grin grin
Oga,Calm down and see your mistake:
In your own Bible,is the Word (Jesus) "the god", according to your claim?

Does Greek definite article ('g3588 the') preceed the second usage of g2316 in John 1:1?
The answer is No !!

Therefore, you DUBIOUSLY attach "the" (in your question) which your own John 1:1 Bible did not put there to reference the Word, Jesus.
From Genesis to Revelation, there is no verse,no chapter that reference Jesus (as "the god /the God) in that manner you have done.

Oga, your question is null and void.

Ok, let's overlook your mistake of referencing the Word as "the god" (not found in your Bible or any Greek lexicon). angry

You did not disappoint me in resorting to rigmarole in your response.
You argue here about ARTICLE
.
Even if we are to go by your translation of John 1:1 what kind of god is the Word that he is referenced here with the God? If in the beginning 'was' the Word does that not tell you that he already existed as uncreated?
When your translation follows that with “This one was in the beginning with God,” (John 1:2, NWT) can't you see the connection this opening verses of John is making between God and the Word?

Later on we have “He came to his own home, but his own people did not accept him,” (John 1:11, NWT). Who were His own people (of the Word) that did not accept Him? Obviously Israel. Who called Israel his own in the Old Testament?

Where DOGMA is superimposed on the Scriptures even clear issues like I've stated above will still not be clear to you. You will still resort to your rigmarole.

In Acts 20:28 clearly the Greek did not state 'his own son'. Your JWs NWT put that in there. Why? We are not just talking about an article here. We are talking about a significant insertion. You won't see anything wrong with that. But now you go talking about an article. Do you agree that JW threw away any reference to Greek grammar in rendering this portion the way it did? Is that sincerity (or staying true) with the Greek?
Who is being DUBIOUS?
Btw, Koine Greek is precise.

Look at these again and get sense:
For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”?
Hebrews 1:5 NIV

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Revelation 1:17‭-‬18 NIV

“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:12‭-‬13 NIV

“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:16 NIV

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20 NIV
NB:
Did you see that the Word that was with God ACCEPTED worship?

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