Trust NL to turn things into a circus.
Amy has written her name in the history books. How many of us here will the world remember?

I don"t judge her. Its the life she chose.
However, its not about how long a person lives but how many lives one has touched.

Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead
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Quote from: Sagamite on Today at 12:43:42 PM

You are reetarded!

You mooronic inability to disprove any points made is what is termed extremely intelligent in your generation?

Dem swear for una?


Mennnnn, i have read a lot of unnecessary grammar on Nairaland. How does Moronic and inability go together But then again i might just be ignorant.

"Reverse back"

Aqva:

Time to go enjoy d weekend. Far away from the likes of morons like Sagamite who use the internet as a place to brag, meanwhile in real life they are dysfunctional, unsocialized piece of shiit.

A dead Amy Winehouse is better and will always be better than a legion of worthless living Sagamites.

You are a cretin!

You and Amy Winehouse are not fit to stand next to my poo.

engineerd:

Mennnnn,  i have read a lot of unnecessary grammar on Nairaland. How does Moronic and inability go together But then again i might just be ignorant.

Why don't you check a dictionary. It is quite a useful tool.

cap28:

co-sign bro, you totally hit the nail on the head

Mental case, you are not going to say she was killed by whites for singing in a black way?

Mooron, that blames whites fro everything.

What was your dumb contribution again? Oh, her excuse is she took drugs because people let her down? Let her down how? By not wanting to work with her again?

Dumbshit, when next anyone faces any disappointment in life, then they should go and take drugs because tin-pot ediots like cap28 think it is justified.  

Sagamite:

Condescend? From reading pictures and saying what people mean from pix?

I ask you again: Surely when I said it was daft for you to claim you can read people's intention from a pix, that made sense?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-427071.96.html#msg5945384

Don't you ever come into a gathering where dimkpas are taking with your grumpy,miserable,extremist,recycled,baseless and senseless views that as a result of your inherent stupid-ty ,you are always so convince you are right.

It quite is disrespectful of me comparing you with the Neanderthals,in an extreme situation that the Neanderthals were,you won't last a second.

ElRazur:

Perhaps I missed the memo. Please explain to me as to how this is so?

Sagamite isn't a junkie, he's living and breathing, keeping you entertained here (well, at least you keep replying to him).    .    .    .  How is a dead singer better than him?

wow! you must really have warped tastes - sagamite? entertaining - jeez

Isnt entertainment supposed to uplift you and make you feel good not make you lose the will to live?

Amy was exceptionally talented and touched many with her wonderful tear stained and soulful voice , sagamite - on the other hand despite many years of contributing absolutely nothing to anyone anywhere on the face of the planet will never be noticed the day he does everyone a favour and drops dead.

BlueDiva:

Trust NL to turn things into a circus.
Amy has written her name in the history books. How many of us here will the world remember?

I don"t judge her. Its the life she chose.
However, its not about how long a person lives but how many lives one has touched.

And how many lives has she touched?

We seem to give too much credit to entertainers. She entertained, she hardly touched a gaddamn fcking soul.

She has not touched as much lives as your local GP.

I judge people by their contribution to lives, not about their infamy.

redsun:

Don't you ever come into a gathering where dimkpas are taking with your grumpy,miserable,extremist,recycled,baseless and senseless views that as a result of your inherent silly-ty ,you are always so convince you are right.

It quite is disrespectful of me comparing you with the Neanderthals,in an extreme situation that the Neanderthals were,you won't last a second.

You are dumb!

It has always been easy for me to prove you are dumb.

And I will always prove you are dumb.

You have no chance in hell to defend yourself.

cap28:

wow! you must really have warped tastes - sagamite? entertaining - jeez

Isnt entertainment supposed to uplift you and make you feel good not make you lose the will to live?

Amy was exceptionally talented and touched many with her wonderful tear stained and soulful voice , sagamite - on the other hand despite many years of contributing absolutely nothing to anyone anywhere on the face of the planet will never be noticed the day he does everyone a favour and drops dead.

Amy might have touched your daft life.

At my level, she is an ediot that needed counseling, not influencing lives!

Sagamite:

And how many lives has she touched?

We seem to give too much credit to entertainers. She entertained, she hardly touched a gaddamn fcking soul.

She has not touched as much lives as your local GP.

I judge people by their contribution to lives, not about their infamy.

You are dumb!

It has always been easy for me to prove you are dumb.

And I will always prove you are dumb.

You have no chance in hell to defend yourself.

Amy might have touched your daft life.

At my level, she is an ediot!

You are always an object of ridicules on a public making out yourself to be smart with all the nonsense you spill.U are a classic example of why education is wasteful in nigeria.

redsun:

You are always an object of ridicules on a public making out yourself to be smart with all the nonsense you spill.U are a classic example of why education is wasteful in nigeria.

I am not the daft foool that said I can read people's intention from a pix. 

You are a classic case of why poor quality education is a big issue that holds back the world. We get ediots that use conjectures and sophism as fact.

Sagamite:

I am not the daft foool that said I can read people's intention from a pix.

You are a classic case of why poor quality education is a big issue that holds back the world.

Your kind of education is whitewashed,easily wiped away with a blow of breath.

You are schooled to write,copy and follow,not to reason

redsun:

Your kind of education is whitewashed,easily wiped away with a blow of breath.

You are schooled to write,copy and follow,not to reason

Sorry? Copy and follow? Another moronic conjecture? 

You are really daft. How can someone be copying and following when their opinion is contrary to popular expectations? Foool!

My education never allows me to use conjectures. 

Sagamite:

Mental case, you are not going to say she was killed by whites for singing in a black way?

Mooron, that blames whites fro everything.

What was your dumb contribution again? Oh, her excuse is she took drugs because people let her down? Let her down how? By not wanting to work with her again?

Dumbshit, when next anyone faces any disappointment in life, then they should go and take drugs because tin-pot ediots like cap28 think it is justified.  

lets compare the short but exceptionally talented life of Amy Winehouse
with  the lonely, envious, miserable and empty life of self appointed internet warrior sagamite:

sagamite -
functional illiterate - check
inability to communicate or grasp basic concepts - check
callous motor park tout mentality - check
below average iq - check

Amy winehouse
award winning superstar by the age of 20, talented singer songwriter.

In a million lifetimes Sagamite you will never and can never acheive anything remotely close to Amy's success, so why dont you go away and do what you normally do  every sunday in order to ease your frustration - go and have a long self-service - okay  

Gone too soon. What a sad news

This writer nails much of what is happening here:

The 27 Club consists of some of the brightest musical talents the world has known but whose lives were cut short at the age of 27.
They also include Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, charismatic Doors star Jim Morrison and guitar genius Jimi Hendrix, founding member of the Rolling Stones Brian Jones, singer Janis Joplin, Hole bassist Kristen Pfaff, American blues singer Robert Johnson and Manic Street Preachers guitarist Richey Edwards, who vanished in 1995 and was presumed dead at the age of 27.
The causes of death vary with each of them, with drug overdoses, suicides and murder depriving the world of some of its finest musical talents.
The one thing they have in common is how death at a young age has resulted in their memory being romanticised to the extent they have become even more famous in death than in their lifetime.

Enough with the false romanticising. I see folks here claiming Amy "touched lives". Huh? Yeah she knew how to hold a tune so she touched more lives than your local cop, fireman and your soldiers fighting for your freedom?

Sagamite:

Sorry? Copy and follow? Another moronic conjecture? 

You are really daft. How can someone be copying and following when their opinion is contrary to popular expectations? Foool!

My education never allows me to use conjectures. 

Stupi-d.He didn't get it.

You follow extreme,outdated and backward views that are not evolving.

cap28:

lets compare the short but exceptionally talented life of Amy Winehouse
with  the lonely, envious, miserable and empty life of self appointed internet warrior sagamite:

sagamite -
functional illiterate - check
inability to communicate or grasp basic concepts - check
callous motor park tout mentality - check
below average iq - check

Amy winehouse
award winning superstar by the age of 20, talented singer songwriter.

In a million lifetimes Sagamite you will never and can never acheive anything remotely close to Amy's success, so why dont you go away and do what you normally do  every sunday in order to ease your frustration - go and have a long self-service - okay  

And so what if she won awards? She is a drughead!

Only no achievement moorons like you will give adoration to people like that.

At my level, she is a low-life that I am happy to just entertain me.

Tupac is not an inspiration to me, but I love his entertainment. No matter what awards he won.

Lil Wayne is an ediot to me, he is just their to entertain me, I love his music. No matter what awards he won.

Do you get that mooron?

No, I don't think so. You need to be at my level to understand people that touch my life.

redsun:

Stupi-d.He didn't get it.

You follow extreme,outdated and backward views that are not evolving.

Dumbshit, in your daft world of moronic conjectures saying No to drugs is backwards and an outdated view.

Cretin, maybe it is time to end it. Smile while you are at it. You are doing the world a favour.

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Sagamite:

And so what if she won awards? She is a drughead!

Only no achievement moorons like you will give adoration to people like that.

At my level, she is a low-life that I am happy to just entertain me.

Tupac is not an inspiration to me, but I love his entertainment. No matter what awards he won.

Lil Wayne is an ediot to me, he is just their to entertain me, I love his music. No matter what awards he won.

Do you get that mooron?

No, I don't think so. You need to be at my level to understand people that touch my life.

Dumbshit, in your daft world of moronic conjectures saying No to drugs is backwards and an outdated view.

Cretin, maybe it is time to end it. Smile while you are at it. You are doing the world a favour.

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Ode,you are not saying no to drugs,you are saying that is it the fault of drug addicts to be hooked on drugs just because your life as a  child and at this point as adult is lived in recluse ,away from contemporary society,totally oblivious of the temptations and traps out there.That is why you talk silly-ly

cap28:

lets compare the short but exceptionally talented life of Amy Winehouse
with  the lonely, envious, miserable and empty life of self appointed internet warrior sagamite:

Amy winehouse
award winning superstar by the age of 20, talented singer songwriter.

In a million lifetimes Sagamite you will never and can never acheive anything remotely close to Amy's success, so why dont you go away and do what you normally do  every sunday in order to ease your frustration - go and have a long self-service - okay  

I'm sure her parents would beg to differ. I'm sure that just like me you would also prefer a well-rounded normal 27-yr old daughter with a simple job than the "exceptional success" of Amy Winehouse.


This generation really needs to re-define what they consider "success". Winning a bunch of essentially meaningless awards while living a life of pain, sorrow and constant loss is NOT my idea of success. Emphysema at 27 is NOT success, drug-addled brains residing in a crumbling body dependent on cocaine to survive is NOT success. Is she more successful than the 27 yr old married doctor wife with 2 normal kids?

redsun:

Ode,you are not saying no to drugs,you are saying that is it the fault of drug addicts to be hooked on drugs just because your life as a  child and at this point as adult is lived in recluse ,away from contemporary society,totally oblivious of the temptations and traps out.That is why you talk silly-ly

Sorry to rain on your parade or crash this fight but . . . this leaves me scratching my head.

So it is NOT the fault of drug addicts that they are dependent on drugs? Is it their mother's fault?
Ok so not dabbling into drugs is due to living life as a recluse, away from "contemporary society" and oblivious of "temptations and traps" out there? Really?

For starters you make it sound as if doing drugs is a universal problem . . . actually it is only a problem for a TINY MINORITY who unfortunately suck up much of the media attention. The vast majority of "contemporary society" considers drug-dependence a weakness, an abheration and a CRIME! And no, well-rounded adults dont need to live as recluses to avoid drugs.

Drug addiction is more or less universal in the biz world and a growing factor in the social lives of contemporary westerners,students,working class,middle class and even aristocrats,they all do hard drug in droves these day.

But the difference is that some are genetically built to be chronically dependent on them,once tested but some manages to restrict habit only to social gatherings.

These poisons  are out there,cheap and readily available,anybody can give it a shot just for the sake of peer pressure and some end up getting hooked from just a shot

The same reason why people get addicted to cigarette is the same reason why people get addicted to class A and dangerous drug.

People know that thousands die from cigarette related diseases every year but yet waste they their hard earned money everyday buying cigarette

Woli dafidi

You touched on an important point there and can I ask you if you fit write a thread specifically for this?

It is bizarre how the current generation - even though there isn't much difference in terms of years between "us" and "them" - have a distorted view of many things. Ranging from success, to how the things should be etc. May be I am getting old and what not, but then  I noticed that if you speak to anyone over 25, they pretty much share your point.



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Here is a good link to read on amy. She's more or less a victim of a broken home, a broken relationship (probably as a result of coming from a broken home) etc.  Anyway, have a read if you can.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/8656986/Amy-Winehouse-1983-2011.html

adieu Amy, rest in peace.

redsun:

Ode,you are not saying no to drugs,you are saying that is it the fault of drug addicts to be hooked on drugs just because your life as a  child and at this point as adult is lived in recluse ,away from contemporary society,totally oblivious of the temptations and traps out there.That is why you talk silly-ly

You are a cretin!

So temptations and traps should mean you should not say no to drugs when you know the consequence? That is the progress from "outdated" practices in your daft "contemporary" world.

I told you that you are intensely daft. It is really easy for me to prove it.

redsun:

Drug addiction is more or less universal in the biz world and a growing factor in the social lives of contemporary westerners,students,working class,middle class and even aristocrats,they all do hard drug in droves these day.

But the difference is that some are genetically built to be chronically dependent on them,once tested but some manages to restrict habit only to social gatherings.

These poisons  are out there,cheap and readily available,anybody can give it a shot just for the sake of peer pressure and some end up getting hooked from just a shot

Anybody?

No, foool, some of us are way too smart and sensible.

Effing ediot!

davidylan:

I'm sure her parents would beg to differ. I'm sure that just like me you would also prefer a well-rounded normal 27-yr old daughter with a simple job than the "exceptional success" of Amy Winehouse.


This generation really needs to re-define what they consider "success". Winning a bunch of essentially meaningless awards while living a life of pain, sorrow and constant loss is NOT my idea of success. Emphysema at 27 is NOT success, drug-addled brains residing in a crumbling body dependent on cocaine to survive is NOT success. Is she more successful than the 27 yr old married doctor wife with 2 normal kids?

Don't mind the reetard!

It is "contemporary" thinking!

BlueDiva:

Trust NL to turn things into a circus.
Amy has written her name in the history books. How many of us here will the world remember?

I don"t judge her. Its the life she chose.
However, its not about how long a person lives but how many lives one has touched.

Only one who is shallow enough to  think of the world a popularity combat would applaud this line of thought. Lawrence Anini, Osama bin laden, Idi Amin Dada, Adolf Hitler etc have their names in the history books too, how does that make their impact on the world more beneficial and positive than mine on the lives of a selected few?

Topic,
Following reports, she called for it. It's a shame!

ElRazur:

Woli dafidi

You touched on an important point there and can I ask you if you fit write a thread specifically for this?

It is bizarre how the current generation - even though there isn't much difference in terms of years between "us" and "them" - have a distorted view of many things. Ranging from success, to how the things should be etc. I always felt may be I am getting old and what not, but then if I noticed that if you speak to anyone over 25, they pretty much share your point.

Bros, the time to actually start and maintain the thread will be a challenge. Give it a shot and i will join you.
I'm just sick and tired of the constant "she touched many lives" nonsense. Missy B adds an interesting point as well . . . of course the world will remember Amy Winehouse for years to come - as another FAILED drug-addict with the ability to sing. I could care less if no more than 10 people remember me when i'm gone in a ripe old age - so long as my immediate family, friends and colleagues are impacted positively . . . i'd be happy.

Sagamite:

You are a cretin!

So temptations and traps should mean you should not say no to drugs when you know the consequence? That is the progress from "outdated" practices in your daft "contemporary" world.

I told you that you are intensely daft. It is really easy for me to prove it.

Anybody?

No, foool, some of us are way too smart and sensible.

Effing ediot!

Don't mind the reetard!

It is "contemporary" thinking!

Go seat down for doti where you belong!Your line of thoughts will only appeal to stagnant minds.Your mind has no room for adjustment

Sagamite:

You are daft!
There are occasions when other people can not cope with pressure, they don't go and use drugs. How does that mean people need drugs?
So do drug cheats in athletics need drugs because they make a choice to use it to perform as people expect?
Who is the illiterate with such simpleton thinking?

if there's an award for the most pest-natured, priggish, obsessive, half-witted lummox on this forum, you are the winner unopposed. how can you compare other people in this argument? were you born brain-dead? so people's pressure threshold is the same all over? because carl lewis decide not to use drugs means ben johnson cannot use it to boost his performance? drug cheats need the drugs and that is why they use it. you sit your ugly rump behind an hp laptop and you claim to know why people act the way they do. you must be genetically silly!

You still want to be arguing stewpidly against science that marijuana is not addictive.
I ask you again: If people take marijuana everyday will they not be addicted?

crikey me, this gook is so simple-minded. where did i ever say marijuana is not addictive. i said not all users will be addicted to it if they take it. are you such a lummox  that you cannot even decipher simple statements. who said marijuana is not addictive? probably you are suffering from an extensive brain damage.

More like you are imposing daft sense!
Saying food is addictive is purely moronic!
What utter rubbish!

swear down, you need to ask for the refund of the adult education classes you had. food is addictive you conceited donkey. read a book and stop exposing your idiocy on a public forum. unfortunately, i will not spoon-feed you by giving you lectures on it.

You need to go and read the difference between disorder and addiction. Your mental system of applying common sense is obviously in disorder, that does not equate to addiction.

more hollow soundbites from an obnoxious fella.
how has this statement advanced the hokum you keep spitting? you must be an inexcusable twunt.

You are a mooron. So you think you can throw a claim my way that you cannot back up and I would not ask you to?
So you were trying to BShit me? You were trying to BShit Sagamite? Emi Sagamite? Slap yourself! Hot one o!
You are a foooooooool!

who is sagamite? which of the rectums did he crawl out from? i am looking around and i still cannot find you. maybe to the laboratory retaards like you who see you as a demigod, you might have the size of an atom. . . . .but to me, you are another self-opiniated, psychotic donkey who lays claims to prodigious knowledge with no intelligence quotient to match the loud barks. you want to square dance with me in a battle? i will show you up as a witless apprentice.

I tell you again: 99% of things in life is not harmful and addictive.
Don't ever in your daft mind compare crack to 99% of things in life again. That was daft sense!
Fck me!
You are a cretin!

tell me one thing in life that is not harmful and can be addictive? are you a lunatic? tell me one thing that has not led to the death of at least someone on this face of the planet. i don't have time to waste on cyber-thugs who cannot advance their points a jot. . . .you keep repeating the same bullshyte without hitting the nail on it's head. there's a reason people say "too much of everything is bad". . . . .

So prescribing something that people are addicted to when detoxing them make the drugs medicinal? What kind of dunce is this for fck sake?
You really a some shithead mooron!

look at this tool. . . . .prescribing serum(refined venom) to victims of snakebites is not medicinal. giving subutex to drug addicts to cure their addiction is not medicinal? this same subutex can also be used recreationally by opiod users to get high. sagamite, if you ever come across me on this forum, better skip the next wall. you know nothing about this topic - all i keep seeing are the words of a clueless hypocrite who is virginal to the discussion at hand.

You are a dunce!
You justified taking alcohol by saying because I can do without alcohol does not mean others can not. The reason I can do without alcohol is because I don't take it. Your daft arse claims some people need alcohol and I am asking you were they born to need alcohol? Fooooooool!

more idiotic rants by the resident simpleton of nairaland. were you born with driving a car? were you born with playstation console? why do some people stay on it 24/7 if they don't need it. why are people addicted to facebook or blackberry im if they were not born with it? surely, you know nothing about addiction.

You are a mooron! Being intellectual does not mean you can not be irresponsible!

sadly, all the greats(people who have left their marks on this planet) have one addiction or the other and yes they are not irresponsible. the current leaders of united kingdom and the united states have all used drugs at one time in their life - they are not irresponsible. mr sagamite hasn't and yet he is irresponsible. . . .sagamite possesses poop for braincells. . . .you have displayed nothing but sterling idiocy and unsuitability to even engage me in a debate with your delusion.

Invest in a Psychology book to stop speaking like a fooool!
You are a cretin!

the tortuous knots of logic this tomfool ties himself up in. . . . .psychology book? i don't need psychology to learn what is around me, muggins.
this is common sense.

Before I even respond to this moronic statement, let me ask you the dreaded question: Back it up. Show me where people sued mcdonald's for addiction to mcdonald's.

i just love showing up this gorilla as the most brainless member in this yard.
there you go. . . .http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/22/news/companies/mcdonalds/
the next time you see me in a debate. . . . .skip the next wall beside you. . . .i hate leaving grown pinheads with poop on their faces,

You are a cretin!
You claimed they needed it!
And you daft arse contradicted yourself.

and you are a bigger nebbish. . . . . .

Sagamite:

So you admit it is not a "need"? It is a carefree attitude in societies where people are well informed?

to which i replied . . .

coogar:

it's a bit of both. . . . sometimes they need to for the required level of performance and sometimes they just need it to step down.

don't distort the facts. . . .everything is well-documented. you shallow-minded, ignorant twerp!

No one needs crack! There is no biological urge telling you you must take crack for the first time, it is a flipping choice. Fooool!

the only logical statement in your rubble of poop.

of course no one needs to take crack at first. . . .but kids still do out of environment(peer pressure) or "feel-cool" factor. . . .and the reasons they do vary from person to person. kane has good parent, abel does not have parents, raised amongst older drug fiends and influenced by his environment, . . should we now blame abel for the environment he was raised in or what, you mongolian dingbat?

so, abel comes out of the ghetto as a celebrity(athlete or rockstar). . . . .continued his habits with so much money to feed it and rolling in an industry that is drug-fuelled. . . .and ended up like amy winehouse. . . is it fair to blame abel for the life he led knowing he had no moral compass from the very beginning to choose the right path for himself? you are here condemning amy winehouse whose upbringing might have been shitty and yet you have no compassion, pity for the environment she was raised. . . . .in all honesty, you are a scatter-brain and if you make a mistake of marrying someone like yourself - you shall produce nitwits.

The geezer(sagamite) is so pathetically stupi-d with so much time in his hands to pin point rubbish to back up his inherent dic-kheadednss

redsun:

The geezer(sagamite) is so pathetically stupi-d with so much time in his hands to pin point rubbish to back up his inherent dic-kheadednss

well. . . . .he should take his stu-pidity to where pinheads like him celebrate him and not within 50-mile radius of where i am positioned. i have a zero tolerance for born-tools. i can understand if an intellectual calls me a cretin(after all, the intellectual could be smarter than i am) but when a deranged epileptic beast of burden tries to imitate an intellectual, i get automatically ticked.

davidylan:

I'm sure her parents would beg to differ. I'm sure that just like me you would also prefer a well-rounded normal 27-yr old daughter with a simple job than the "exceptional success" of Amy Winehouse.


This generation really needs to re-define what they consider "success". Winning a bunch of essentially meaningless awards while living a life of pain, sorrow and constant loss is NOT my idea of success. Emphysema at 27 is NOT success, drug-addled brains residing in a crumbling body dependent on cocaine to survive is NOT success. Is she more successful than the 27 yr old married doctor wife with 2 normal kids?

Not everyone is cut out to be a boring, robotic conformist  - some of the greatest icons in the world were non conformists who preferred to live life on the edge rather than end up living boring, straight laced lives like you.

What would the world have been like if the likes of Jimi Hendrix, JOhn Lennon, Kurt Cobain , Billie Holiday had ended up doing 9 to 5 jobs? - these people were all outstanding musical geniuses, sensitive, intelligent and in the case of John Lennon extremely charismatic but they answered their calling in life which was to become musicians, song writers and entertainers - they also INGESTED A LOT OF DRUGS - but that will never detract from what they acheived in their short lifetimes and what people continue to remember them for - drug taking is one of the hazards of the entertainment industry it takes extreme mental discipline to steer clear ffrom them if you are an entertainer.  The idea that everyone has to end up as doctor or lawyer and live a boring conventional lifestyle is the reason why so many nigerian children end up living empty unfulfilled lives because instead of pursuing their dreams they merely pursue the dreams of their parents - that my friend is not how to raise children -children should be allowed to pursue their own dreams with the parents giving guidance when needed along the way.

Fela Kuti was a musical genius with outstanding talent - he will always be remembered for that  irrespective of his lifestyle - imagine what it would be like if he had had parents like you who would hve insisted that he study to become a doctor or a lawyer, imagine the talent which would have been wasted and imagine the frustration that he would have experienced in an unfulfilled life.

You need to get out of your narrow mindset and free your mind, cos you sound like your stuck in the 18th century.

Amy winehouse was a success whether you want to accept it or not, it is no mean feat to sell millions of records around the world by the age of 20, you dismiss her acheivements without even understanding anything about her talent, she wrote her own lyrics and played musical instruments - can you do that? can you write songs that appeal to people from different, races, classes and cultures and make money from doing it as well ?  you call a grammy award meaniningless - really - what have you done in your personal life that tops that?

by the way being a married doctor at 27 with 2 kids is so mediocre - there are thousands if not millions of people who have achieved that and much more  - how many people do you know that have become critically acclaimed international superstars by the age of 20?

cap28:

Not everyone is cut out to be a boring, robotic conformist  - some of the greatest icons in the world were non conformists who preferred to live life on the edge rather than end up living boring, straight laced lives like you.

100% in agreement.

What would the world have been like if the likes of Jimi Hendrix, JOhn Lennon, Kurt Cobain , Billie Holiday had ended up doing 9 to 5 jobs? - these people were all outstanding musical geniuses, sensitive, intelligent and in the case of John Lennon extremely charismatic but they answered their calling in life which was to become musicians, song writers and entertainers - they also INGESTED A LOT OF DRUGS - but that will never detract from what they acheived in their short lifetimes and what people continue to remember them for - drug taking is one of the hazards of the entertainment industry it takes extreme mental discipline to steer clear ffrom them if you are an entertainer.  The idea that everyone has to end up as doctor or lawyer and live a boring conventional lifestyle is the reason why so many nigerian children end up living empty unfulfilled lives because instead of pursuing their dreams they merely pursue the dreams of their parents - that my friend is not how to raise children -children should be allowed to pursue their own dreams with the parents giving guidance when needed along the way.

i raised these points in the previous pages. all these artistes that took drugs were extremely brilliant, masters of their arts and yet still sniffed the powder. should we now say people with an extremely high intelligent quotients to make classical music are all of a sudden dumb and never knew the effects of their drug use?

Fela Kuti was a musical genius with outstanding talent - he will always be remembered for that  irrespective of his lifestyle - imagine what it would be like if he had had parents like you who would hve insisted that he study to become a doctor or a lawyer, imagine the talent which would have been wasted and imagine the frustration that he would have experienced in an unfulfilled life.

he was actually sent to england to study medicine but he studied music instead @ trinity college. . . .fela followed his dreams and see what came out of it. . . . .he's a legend. far famous than his ex-minister brother(olikoye).

Amy winehouse was a success whether you want to accept it or not, it is no mean feat to sell millions of records around the world by the age of 20, you dismiss her acheivements without even understanding anything about her talent, she wrote her own lyrics and played musical instruments - can you do that? can you write songs that appeal to people from different, races, classes and cultures and make money from doing it as well ?  you call a grammy award meaniningless - really - what have you done in your personal life that tops that?

absolutely!

5 grammy awards, 6 nominations in one night. the highest number of grammy awards ever racked up in one night by a female artiste is more than a success. whether people love her lifestyle or not. she was a success in her line of profession. something we cannot say about many of her detractors on these pages.

cap28:

Not everyone is cut out to be a boring, robotic conformist  - some of the greatest icons in the world were non conformists who preferred to live life on the edge rather than end up living boring, straight laced lives like you.

Odd. So living life on the "edge" is the same as destroying your own body with drugs of abuse, alchohol and cigarettes? thank God for "boring, straight-laced" lives! What do you mean by a "non-conformist"? You mean  a completely irresponsible fool constantly flirting with jail and death?

Why arent you living life on the edge? Seating here to chat on the internet is quite "robotic and boring" you know . . . its the kind of life you'd expect for "conformists" like me not you.

cap28:

What would the world have been like if the likes of Jimi Hendrix, JOhn Lennon, Kurt Cobain , Billie Holiday had ended up doing 9 to 5 jobs? - these people were all outstanding musical geniuses

1. And SO freaking what? They were outstanding musical geniuses who added SQUAT WHAT to our lives? People with boring 9 to 5 jobs are the REASON you have an education, have an improved standard of living. They are the doctors who make sure we live in relative good health, they are the police-officers who maintain law and order, the scientists who put us on the moon, an aircraft in the sky and a car for us to drive (instead of riding horses).
Boring folks with 9-5 jobs are the reason you can turn on your taps in the morning and find water there, they are the reason you have 24 hrs non-stop electricity, have good roads, relatively cheap food and all the regulations that keep you safe. They are the scientists who work hard to improve our lives so we can live long enough to appreciate your "non-conformists". They are also your soldiers who die in relative obscurity so YOU can sit in your little cave and worship drug-addled irresponsible fools with the ability to strum a guitar.

Have some more respect for these folks pls.

cap28:

sensitive, intelligent and in the case of John Lennon extremely charismatic but they answered their calling in life which was to become musicians, song writers and entertainers - they also INGESTED A LOT OF DRUGS - but that will never detract from what they acheived in their short lifetimes and what people continue to remember them for - drug taking is one of the hazards of the entertainment industry it takes extreme mental discipline to steer clear ffrom them if you are an entertainer.

So we can agree that you hero-worship irresponsible people with a lack of self-discipline? At least that's a good start.

cap28:

The idea that everyone has to end up as doctor or lawyer and[b] live a boring conventional lifestyle[/b] is the reason why so many nigerian children end up living empty unfulfilled lives because instead of pursuing their dreams they merely pursue the dreams of their parents - that my friend is not how to raise children -children should be allowed to pursue their own dreams with the parents giving guidance when needed along the way.

Sigh. See above for the incredulity of calling doctors and lawyers boring.

Yeah . . . just imagining what the parents of Jimi Hendrix or Amy Winehouse are going through makes me even more determined to be involved in my child's decisions. I'm sure those parents (who definitely knew how to raise children) are SO GLAD they allowed their children to "pursue their own dreams" which included dying as an irresponsible, unfulfilled 27 yr old.

No thanks.

cap28:

Fela Kuti was a musical genius with outstanding talent - he will always be remembered for that  irrespective of his lifestyle - imagine what it would be like if he had had parents like you who would hve insisted that he study to become a doctor or a lawyer, imagine the talent which would have been wasted and imagine the frustration that he would have experienced in an unfulfilled life.

hmmm this is disgracefully ignorant. Fela's parents were extremely strict! When it comes to education, they remain pioneers in Abeokuta till today and they were certainly VERY demanding when it came to their kids educational and career choices. Fela and his father had a falling out over his choice . . .

Yes Fela was a musical genius, but he died in relative poverty an aids patient. His two brothers? One a famous SAN and the other a professor of medicine and former health minister who both died at a ripe old age. I know which i would choose.

cap28:

You need to get out of your narrow mindset and free your mind, cos you sound like your stuck in the 18th century.

Yeah rather be stuck in the 18th century than end up like 21st century Amy Winehouse.

cap28:

Amy winehouse was a success whether you want to accept it or not, it is no mean feat to sell millions of records around the world by the age of 20, you dismiss her acheivements without even understanding anything about her talent, she wrote her own lyrics and played musical instruments - can you do that? can you write songs that appeal to people from different, races, classes and cultures and make money from doing it as well ?  you call a grammy award meaniningless - really - what have you done in your personal life that tops that?

Go to youtube, such talents are a dime a dozen. A youtube group re-arranged the song "you are the world" for Haiti, it was MILES better than the one recorded by so-called musical geniuses.

Bill Gates has never won a grammy in his life . . . so what? Does he care? Yeah a grammy is all there is to life.

cap28:

by the way being a married doctor at 27 with 2 kids is so mediocre - there are thousands if not millions of people who have achieved that and much more  - how many people do you know that have become critically acclaimed international superstars by the age of 20?

But at least it wont lead to drug-addled death at 27 right? Amy died as a 20-yr old "superstar" . . . sure her parents are feeling proud right now. Perhaps they can now eat her awards or raise them as grandkids?