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Re: An Inept Leadership by aletheia(m): 8:46pm On Aug 12, 2011
okada_man:

Aletheia was a GEJ and PDP defender during the elections.
He can deny and spin that fact all he wants but his post history holds more than enough evidence.
And yet the strongest "evidence" you can put forward is this:
CPC=Fulani ("Hausa"wink supremacist party. "fower" must return to the "north". We are "born to rule".

Clearly, you 've been busy trawling through my past posts searching for "evidence". I 'm sure you can produce more direct evidence of myself canvassing support for GEJ. Aside from the allusion to Fulani supremacy, if you are honest you will concede that quote is sarcastic in tone and refers to the more tendentious supporters of the "zoning"argument. You failed to also post seal777 that I was responding to in such sarcastic terms:
seal777:

U need to see how those hausas pounced on me requesting for posters and starch for unward pasting.
So you stick to your narrative and must needs grasp at straws to prop up your argument that I was pro-GEJ.

Like I pointed out earlier that one is against Buhari does not mean that he is for GEJ. Such a zero-sum approach to this issue does not cut it at all. After initially being sympathetic towards Buhari (see here reproduced from my blog on NVS), I became opposed to Buhari's candidacy for reasons which I clearly outlined here.

In any case even if hypothetically I supported the incumbent, it's not something to be ashamed or apologetic about. It is my democratic right to support anyone. . .but if you will be honest then you will concede that my post history shows that while I was clearly opposed to Buhari, I was ambivalent towards the duo of GEJ and Ribadu as a post on the same April 15 shows.

aletheia:

Agreed that without electricity, there would be issues. Good thing though is that there seems to be some political will on the part of the Jonathan Administration or a Ribadu Administration to reform the power sector. So we live in hope.

For a summary of my views on the elections see here

okada_man:


If na court we dey, jury go jail am troway the key.
Case would be thrown out for lack of evidence and an abuse of the court process. grin

okada_man:

. . . anyway, I'm still on a truce. wink
So why this sniping at me? cheesy
Re: An Inept Leadership by okadaman2: 8:57pm On Aug 12, 2011
aletheia:

So why this sniping at me? cheesy

Because I don't know how to be nice. Okada business can do that to you.  But, I'm a work in progress. embarassed


BTW, I am not a Buhari Die hard myself, I'm not a die hard fan of any Politician. But the kind of massive support given to GEJ and arguments made in his favour during election was unnecessary and frankly mostly dishonest. I, like many Nigerians, was hoping for a healthier conversation about where we want to go.

After supporting GEJ against the so called Cabal both offline and online I was disappointed to find out he was not going to contest fairly. Playing on peoples intelligence, bribing recklessly while surrounding himself with the same crop of looters I wanted him to get rid of. So getting on NL and reading through a few of the rhetoric in support of him was too hard for me to swallow.

Buhari had his die-hard worshipers, we can make an argument about their excesses, So did GEJ, you may not think you fall into that group. I guess we can agree to disagree about that.


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Good points @nuclearboy!

They slaughtered so much common sense and morality on the altar of political expediency. While politics is what is it, We must not fail to admit that.

I hope the so called smart people that refused to accept that GEJ was the wrong option in April won't remain obstinate in 4 years when time comes to choose again.

That is if Nigeria can survive till 2015.

edited for clarity
Re: An Inept Leadership by aletheia(m): 9:05pm On Aug 12, 2011
nuclearboy:

Moral issues - you signed to an agreement. Then you throw it out. Then after you win, you insist that it is in effect for others. The issue is not if he has right to be president - everyone of us has that right. The true issue for me is that after it was thrown out to his advantage, he ought not have raised it again. That is so animal farm.
Oga nuclear, let's not fight over the issue of politicians. You know the bonds between us are stronger than that! smiley
But let me say this. What is at stake here is a PDP matter. . .the relevant portions of their constitution. So wetin concern me with PDP wahala? If you recall, the president has not acted in any way different from how he explained the "zoning" principle in August last year. . .which is that once the President is elected then the other positions are distributed zone-wise. If you are referring to the matter of a constitutional amendment for rotational presidency, then I think we ought to examine the idea on it's merit alone given the acrimonious nature of what transpired late and early this year. Me I personally favor anything that will result in less direct government interference in my life.  

nuclearboy:

On privatisation, the dude knew what he planned is my point. Yet he kept supporting privatisation till those words (amidst a myriad of others) got him where he wanted. But then you yourself allude to the deceptiveness when you say "blindsided by him"
Please, I don't get this. Has the FG decided to halt all privatizations? All that was said was that previous ones failed. With the exception of a few they didn't produce jobs or grow into viable companies. Wasn't that the truth? Or is there something I'm missing here.

nuclearboy:

Fine, constitution says every state is to produce a minister. Is he "reforming" that by adding MORE?
But he doesn't have more ministers than his predecessors or does he?
Re: An Inept Leadership by nuclearboy(m): 9:14pm On Aug 12, 2011
Fight ke?? Impossicant and unpossible. Because of politics, to boot?

You know me - once I know someone is intelligent PLUS has sincerity to make their life a continually updated experience, I'm weaker than Jo's arguments grin

You and okada-man remain in my hall of fame
Re: An Inept Leadership by honeric01(m): 10:28pm On Aug 12, 2011
Paddy_lo, make sure you stay till the end of 2015, DO NOT RUN AWAY O.
Re: An Inept Leadership by Kobojunkie: 10:31pm On Aug 12, 2011
^^^ rofl

Re: An Inept Leadership by xterra2(m): 11:18pm On Aug 12, 2011
Paddy_lo

Good that you have see the truth
I personally warned you in SSC and many people here did
You refused to heed to our advice, and now i cant say anything but Enjoy the fresh air grin grin

Good article, BUT i have to say the English is good but not that Good
Poor choice of words but good article nonetheless
Re: An Inept Leadership by overhyped: 11:13pm On Aug 13, 2011
Why is this thread not on the front page?
Re: An Inept Leadership by paddylo1(m): 8:43pm On Aug 16, 2011
xterra2:

Paddy_lo

Good that you have see the truth
I personally warned you in SSC and many people here did
You refused to heed to our advice, and now i cant say anything but Enjoy the fresh air grin grin

Good article, BUT i have to say the English is good but not that Good
Poor choice of words but good article nonetheless

@Xterra and others

My disappointment with Jonathan does not mean i would have supported Buhari even now

Because i believe he(Buhari),would have been worse than Yar adua or GEJ

I am a free market capitalist kind of guy,i have no use for ex coup plotters with suspect socialist tending policies

Nevertheless i am willing to concede that the ACN would have been a better choice,but the candidate (Ribadu) had no chance of winning

lets not turn this into a Political argument though

This is strictly an Economic write up

cheers
Re: An Inept Leadership by paddylo1(m): 8:45pm On Aug 16, 2011
overhyped:

Why is this thread not on the front page?

Beats me. . Mods please put this on the front page

I would love the Powers that be to get this message loud and clear. . angry
Re: An Inept Leadership by paddylo1(m): 8:59pm On Aug 18, 2011
cool
Re: An Inept Leadership by xterra2(m): 11:37pm On Aug 18, 2011
^^ Paddy_lo again you didnt answer my question

1.)Do you regret voting GEJ
2.) Do you or NOT accept now that he is a clueless, bad president ?


Simple, i dint say would you have voted Buhari

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