st-kris:

i have read through the entire thread, and i have to say sexkillz has reduced the IQ level a couple notches since he stepped in.

Seriously?? why is he making arguments based on what he doesn't know? That is the last sentence a religious person should make if he is to maintain any kind of credibility in his own arguments. The institution of religion is entirely based and thrives on this illogical "logic" which has been termed "faith."

To the other religious ones, i have a lot of questions, but i would not overwhelm you with all at the same time, so kindly answer this for now.

1. In the bible, Christ said no one would make heaven except through him,

sexkillz:

@ Thehomer!
*In proving wht i know I'll start with a question? DO YOU THINK IT IS RIGHT TO ATTRIBUTE INTELLIGENCE TO CHANCE?

sexkillz:

*His NAME is NOT HIDDEN! YOU SAY YOU HAVE NUMEROUS BIBLES! I BELIEVE YOU MUST HAVE READ THEM. HOW COME YOU DID NOT SEE A NAME THAT WAS MENTIONED OVER 7000 TIMES IN THE BIBLE? WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN IS TO CLEAR THE ACCUSATIONS LEVELED AGAINST HIS NAME & THEN ATTRIBUTE WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY HIS TO HIM!

sexkillz:

*The sayings of JESUS you mentioned earlier, could youu be more specific on that?

@apocalypse WELCOME!

@SEXKILLZ
This is my conclusion on you,  YOU dont know how to argue constructively neither can you debate. You are always "Begging the question", using questions to ask questions and refusal to admit what you dont know. no offense.

Same could be said ABOUT YOU THEN!

thehomer:

I have not attributed intelligence to chance so this is a moot question.

Why don't you simply type out the name? That is all I'm asking for.

You said life ends at death. Jesus said something different from that. So are you simply stuck at the Old Testament?

st-kris:

@sexkillz
john 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (king James version)

john 14:6 - Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father [/b]but through Me. (new American standard bible)

Now i have shown where that was paraphrased from, can you now kindly answer the question.
As someone rightly pointed out, you consistently don't answer a question with an answer, so i'll recommend you answer questions being presented in your direction rather than resorting to your copy and paste questions as responses.

1. In the bible, Christ said no one would make [b]heaven except through him,

sexkillz:

I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO! ME THINKS YOU WANNA USE THE NAME OF GOD THAT YOU KNOW ALREADY TO DIVERT THIS TOPIC! NOW WE WOULD START DEBATING ON GOD'S NAME ABI? HELLLL NO BRO! STICK TO TOPIC!

sexkillz:

I SAID LIFE ENDS @ DEATH! SHOW ME WHERE JESUS SAID OTHERWISE!

sexkillz:

These were your EXACT WORDS earlier:
Now where in does SCRIPTURES YOU QUOTED DID IT MENTION HEAVEN?

st-kris:

@sexkillz
john 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (king James version)

john 14:6 - Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. (new American standard bible)

Now i have shown where that was paraphrased from, can you now kindly answer the question.
As someone rightly pointed out, you consistently don't answer a question with an answer, so i'll recommend you answer questions being presented in your direction rather than resorting to your copy and paste questions as responses.

st-kris:

coming to the father through him in this context clearly represents his being the gateway to his father, whom the bible says is God, and as long as you follow his teachings, you would get "through" to his father; whose zip code just happens to be HEAVEN.

3kay945:

let me help you, the guy is either kidding you or he is a kid in his teens. he cant answer any questions reasonably.

sexkillz:

LOL @ Being EVASIVE! WHAT DOES THAT MEAN! HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT HEARD GOD'S NAME BEFORE? DONT LIE!

sexkillz:

YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS SO AS TO SUPPORT YOUR AGRUMENT! BUT DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THESE QUESTIONS YOU ASK?

sexkillz:

Life as we know it ENDS @ DEATH! JESUS DIED! Did he NOT? BUT HE WAS RAISED UP! WAS HE NOT? HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS A PROOF THAT GOD HAS THE POWER TO RAISE THE DEAD! NOW READ JOHN 5 vs 28-29!

apocalypse:

@sexkillz
Read Numbers chapter 31 : 1 - 18
7 - And they warred against the Midianites , as the LORD commanded Moses ; and they slew all the males.
8 - And they slew the kings of Midian , beside the rest of them that were slain ; namely , Evi , and Rekem , and Zur , and Hur , and Reba , five kings of Midian : Balaam also the son of Boer they slew with the sword.
9 - And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives , and their little ones , and took the spoil of all their cattle , and all their flocks , and all their goods.
10 - And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt , and all their goodly castles with fire.
17 - Now therefore kill every male among the little ones , and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 - But all the women children , that have not known a man by lying with him , keep alive for yourselves.

Need I say more , what kind of God orders the killing of children and women yet you say he is love , compassionate and kind. In my estimation God has killed more people than the devil , djinns and disease put together. have not known a man by lying with him , keep alive for yourselves.

Need I say more , what kind of God orders the killing of children and women yet you say he is love , compassionate and kind. In my estimation God has killed more people than the devil , djinns and disease put together.

Have you read the PRECEDING CHAPTERS to THIS ONE, for you get get A CLEARER CONTEXT OF WHAT REALLY [/b]HAPPENED? OR DID YOU JUST QUOTE FROM THERE TO PROVE A POINT?
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN GOD CREATED ADAM & EVE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAS LED TO KILLINGS? DO YOU WANT TO KNOW AT ALL? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE?

@ harakiri, If you cant answer SIMPLE QUESTIONS, then LET ME BE! The WORST you could do IS TO GET ME[size=25pt][b] BANNED!

sexkillz:

With the coming of Jesus Christ, an individual’s enjoying a proper relationship with God and approaching him acceptably in prayer depended on acceptance of Jesus Christ. As the Son of God stated: “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”  Those who became followers of Jesus Christ were spoken of as belonging to “The Way,” that is, they adhered to a way or manner of life that centered around faith in Jesus Christ, following his example!

NOW THAT ANSWER ABOVE COMPLETES THE FIRST HALF OF YOUR STATEMENT! NOW SHOW ME WHERE IT IS WRITTEN THAT THE FATHER'S ZIP CODE HAPPENS TO BE HEAVEN!

thehomer:

Okay, I've heard so many which is it? Is it Zeus, Thor, Quetzalcoatl, Odin, Wotan, Jehovah, Shiva, Brahma, Yahweh, Achman, Vishnu, Krishna, FSM? You asked me not to lump your God with that of other Christians yet you claim to be a Christian. Why don't you simply inform us on his name which you said he has?
Asking me not to lie is a subtle form of an ad hominem fallacy. You really should refrain from doing that.

I'm asking questions to know what you actually believe. I'm trying to make as little assumptions as possible. What do you mean by whether I believe in the questions I'm asking?

If life ends at death, then when you say he was resurrected, he was not alive. Maybe he was some sort of zombie that seemed alive, but he really wasn't. That is the implication of saying that life ends at death.
Again, which God are talking about? Was it Zeus that raised Jesus from the dead? Or was it Akhenaten?

st-kris:

Thats exactly what we're all saying. You lack the mental capacity to reason for yourself and make your own arguments, so you resort to copying and pasting. You just googled and copied your above statement and tacked on another typical question of a mindless drone.

Not everything is to be taken literally, and if only half the religious people understood that, then maybe they would refrain from trying to see the bible as a literal manual, rather than a philosophical literary best seller meant to guide you to "do good."

So in my own words (which you know nothing about doing) i said his "father's zip code happens to be heaven" and your little mind needs to know where it was written. Really?? we're talking about a god and you really want to authenticate a "zip code" reference.


To everyone else, i think we have given this child enough undue attention, and i advise to refrain from further responses to his shallow existence until he or someone else has something substantial to say.

harakiri:

@st-kris, You noticed abi? That SEXKILLS character is simply flooding the thread with garbage he knows nothing about and bantering with such a person is a waste of time and mental resources. Some theists who realized the questions Atheists put to them were above their capability had the decency of admitting or staying off the thread. This one on the other hand is busy trolling the internet,searching for anti-atheist material which he copies,pastes and floods the thread with garbage spam (which he doesn't even understand). Atheists have continously hammered that WE HAVE NOTHING to prove because we have NO belief in anything. It the theists however thaty bear the brunt of showing proof. What is so hard and complex about that to understand? Instead of facing the issue head on, they revert to derailing tactics and asking dumb reetarded questions like "can you prove god doesn't exist?". With mentally dull people like these, I have fears about this generation. Another dullard said "only a fool says there is no god" and their same bible says "anyone who calls another a fool is in danger of hell fire". Can you see the twisted hypocrisy? They don't even understand their bible well and they'll come here advertising how reetarded,deluded and dull they really are. It's a crying shame! ! !

ALL THESE INSULTS JUST BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO BE AN ATHEIST? IF BEING AN ATHEIST INVOLVES INSULTING PEOPLE THIS WAY, I"LL PASS!

harakiri:

@st-kris, Well said! The only reason I commented earlier was because of you said (IQ reducing ever sine "who know who" started spamming this thread). Before he brought his nuisance, there was an interesting,educative,informative and mentally engaging discourse going on. He can't even type ONE sentence that makes sense! Reason and Logic don't exist in his little myopic world! Its best to ignore the attention seeker. He's not worth the time and energy. Nuff said!

BYE BYE THEN! I WONT MISS YOU!

sexkillz:

GOD HAS A PERSONAL NAME!
YES I CAN ENLIGHTEN YOU!

sexkillz:
YOU have a BIBLE! I'll SHOW YOU from your BIBLE!

sexkillz:

*His NAME is NOT HIDDEN!

Okay, please type his name already!

sexkillz:
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO! ME THINKS YOU WANNA USE THE NAME OF GOD THAT YOU KNOW ALREADY TO DIVERT THIS TOPIC! NOW WE WOULD START DEBATING ON GOD'S NAME ABI? HELLLL NO BRO! STICK TO TOPIC!

huh? what are you on about mate?

sexkillz:
HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT HEARD GOD'S NAME BEFORE? DONT LIE!

sexkillz:

WHICH NAME IS MORE PROMINENT IN THE BIBLE! AND APPEARS OVER 7000 TIMES?

Thought you were supposed to be the 'enlightener'?   So you suddenly do a 360, and ask us to tell you God's name? Are you for real?