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What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:13am On Mar 04, 2023

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The Senate President, Dr Ahmad Ibrahim Lawan on Tuesday clarified that the Electoral Act 2022 did not provide for electronic transmission of election results as being demanded by a cross-section of Nigerians for 2023 election results.

Speaking while contributing to a motion sponsored by Senator Ibrahim Oloriegbe (APC, Kwara Central) on the controversies trailing the February 25 presidential and National Assembly elections, Lawan said that what was passed by the National Assembly was snapping of election results and transferring to the server of the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC.

This was even as the motion, which centred on the need for calm and appeal to political parties, stakeholders and Nigerians to abide by the rule of law on the election process in the just concluded election, triggered a heated debate among the senators.

While senators belonging to the ruling All Progressives Congress, APC, supported debate on the motion, those in the opposition kicked against it.

The Senate President said: “In the Electoral Act that we passed, there is nothing like the electoral transmission. What we have passed is to transfer all the paper works that we normally do while the agents and everybody there have the papers.

“INEC will now scan or snap the result sheets and transfer them. We urge INEC to follow the Electoral Act and other laws on their guidelines.
“In this chamber, we are not going to interpret the Electoral Act. This is not a court of law. We are just to guide this debate and talk about the general principles of how this election and declaration should be done. There is no need to stress ourselves.
In his motion, Senator Oloriegbe asked the Senate to urge all political actors, leaders and every Nigerian to remain calm and allow collation and announcement of the Presidential and National Assembly elections result to continue based on the provisions of the Electoral Act.

Oloriegbe, who moved the motion anchored on Orders 41 and 51, said it was very important for the highest legislative body to look into the controversy surrounding results collation by INEC and bring calm to the raging storm among political parties.

“The Senate should urge all political actors, leaders and every Nigerian to remain calm and allow collation and announcement of the presidential and National Assembly elections to proceed based on the provisions of the electoral act,” he said.

But before being allowed to make a lead debate presentation on the motion, Senator Betty Apiafi (PDP, Rivers West), said it was wrong to bring up the issues at such a critical time like this, saying “the Senate wasn’t the place to state what the guidelines of the INEC should be.”

Senator Emmanuel Orker-Jev (PDP, Benue North West), also kicked against the motion by saying “the best way is to step down this order because if we are already generating this kind of controversy, imagine what will happen out there.”

Senator Adamu Bulkachuwa (PDP, Bauchi North), noted that the Senate should stay clear of the issues due to the raging controversy on it.

“Whatever happens in the collation centre and in the social media, the Senate should not involve in it.

“We passed the Electoral Act and for goodness sake, if we don’t stop this motion down, there will be endless controversy on party lines and God knows what it will generate in the public domain,” he said.

Senator Biodun Olujimi (PDP, Ekiti South), also kicked against the motion by saying “the process is still an ongoing one and INEC should follow its own guidelines and the Electoral Law. We should not ignite violence and the best way is to ask everybody to maintain peace and order while we go through this process and finish it properly.”

However, Senator Sani Musa (APC, Niger East ) and others from the ruling party, supported the motion, which paved way for a full debate on it.

He said: “It is very clear that accreditation and verification are to be done by the BVAS. We are not voting electronically for that real-time transmission to happen.

“Transmission can only happen after it has been published on BVAS. So it is not real-time. We are not a court to interpret but INEC has a responsibility to stick to guidelines.

“It is a simple process and that process after publishing, they send it to back-end servers and it is after then that INEC can put it on IREV. INEC has been attacked over 160 times and nobody has been making any issue about that.”

Senator Opeyemi Bamidele (APC, Ekiti Central), in his own contribution, said Nigerians should be patient for INEC to complete the process while also calling on the judiciary to do the right thing.

He noted that the judiciary should not allow itself to be dragged into interfering with the elections without passing through the proper process.

The Senate called on Nigerians to remain calm just as it urges INEC to abide by extant laws in the collation of results of the presidential election.
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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:17am On Mar 04, 2023
Is Lawan confusing himself or he just decided to sound the way he did?. Which one is transmission and which one is transfer?

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Nobody: 5:19am On Mar 04, 2023
angry
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by mycar: 5:20am On Mar 04, 2023
this is an indictment already

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by securitywatch50: 5:22am On Mar 04, 2023
What a sorry state we find this country

Senators playing the role of inec

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:23am On Mar 04, 2023
mycar:
this is an indictment already
One thing is pertinent, there's no way they will run around this conversation of transmission or transferring, and get away with it.

If he's saying that what they passed into law is the transferring of results from polling units after being captured, then we will check the dictionary to see if there's difference between transferring and transmitting

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Totilopussylick(m): 5:23am On Mar 04, 2023
The Senate President, Dr Ahmad Ibrahim Lawan is the worst senate President Nigeria ever had tongue

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by SuperSupremo(m): 5:26am On Mar 04, 2023
Lol
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Ayo8(m): 5:29am On Mar 04, 2023
Dishonorable man…

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 5:31am On Mar 04, 2023
If PO had win, nobody would have been bothered or disturbed even if the transmission of results was by Canoe or Keke.

For God sake, there was no electronic voting, so how do u then expect ttansmission of result electronically when balloting system of voting was still in place?

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 5:34am On Mar 04, 2023
Did Ebonyi, Imo, Abia, Anambra or Enugu transmit their results Electronically?

I really want to know...

Cos those results came far too long than expected and it didnt reflect the true position of things on ground.

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:41am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:
If PO had win, nobody would have been bothered or disturbed even if the transmission of results was by Canoe or Keke.

For God sake, there was no electronic voting, so how do u then expect ttansmission of result electronically when balloting system of voting was still in place?
The process via which you arrive is more important than your arrival.

Irrespective of who won the election, the conversation should be centered around building and straightening our electoral laws, which is ensuring our laws are fulfilled

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:45am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:
Did Ebonyi, Imo, Abia, Anambra or Enugu transmit their results Electronically?

I really want to know...

Cos those results came far too long than expected and it didnt reflect the true position of things on ground.
That's why Peter Obi and even Atiku Abubarka, has called for the cancellation of the entire process.

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:47am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:
If PO had win, nobody would have been bothered or disturbed even if the transmission of results was by Canoe or Keke.

For God sake, there was no electronic voting, so how do u then expect ttansmission of result electronically when balloting system of voting was still in place?
Who emerged the winner, isn't more important than the process via which he emerged. We're revolutionalizing our politics. If anyone should loose, let him loose fair and square

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by nkemjacob2(m): 5:49am On Mar 04, 2023
See the kind person wey yobe state say make e represent them.

Ur politicians pass law to favor them even if it cost the common man pain. Illiterate electorate PLS OPEN YOUR EYES YOU ARE THE REASON NIGERIA IS NOT GOING FORWARD.

tomorrow this wan go say e wan be president

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by HNICEARTH: 5:53am On Mar 04, 2023
Dude is a joke of a 🤡🤡🤡

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:55am On Mar 04, 2023
HNICEARTH:
Dude is a joke of a 🤡🤡🤡
Omo that guy has sank lower than expected

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:57am On Mar 04, 2023
nkemjacob2:
See the kind person wey yobe state say make e represent them.

Ur politicians pass law to favor them even if it cost the common man pain. Illiterate electorate PLS OPEN YOUR EYES YOU ARE THE REASON NIGERIA IS NOT GOING FORWARD.

tomorrow this wan go say e wan be president
I know Lawan head may not be alright because he associates with APC, but I didn't know it's this bad

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 5:57am On Mar 04, 2023
Supremos:
Who emerged the winner, isn't more important than the process via which he emerged. We're revolutionalizing our politics. If anyone should loose, let him loose fair and square
Obi lost, all this imaginary bullshit wont help anyone.

I voted atiku cos i knew obi wont win.

If they had formed alliance, today we will have seen a new party at thr helm...

Some people said insteadof mikano to win let agbado win..
Now they r crying foul...

Is there any elections that is devoid of rigging?

Can OBi vouch with his life that there was no rigging in the East?

And also where did the rigging happen, i keep asking this question?

Did they rig in lagos that he won, or was he supposs to win in zamfara or kano abi in borno?

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 5:59am On Mar 04, 2023
Totilopussylick:
The Senate President, Dr Ahmad Ibrahim Lawan is the worst senate President Nigeria ever had tongue
The question is, what's the difference between transferring result and transmitting result

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 6:02am On Mar 04, 2023
Supremos:
That's why Peter Obi and even Atiku Abubarka, has called for the cancellation of the entire process.
When Inec saddled with the responsibilty of conducting and announcing the winner has concluded their task...

The only thing pdp and Lp can do is to use the 25percent votes in Abuja to their own gain.

If supreme court can interpret this section and it favours them, inec has no option than to recall the sertificate of return and reconduct a by-election between Apc and Pdp.
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:05am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:

Obi lost, all this imaginary bullshit wont help anyone.

I voted atiku cos i knew obi wont win.

If they had formed alliance, today we will have seen a new party at thr helm...

Some people said insteadof mikano to win let agbado win..
Now they r crying foul...

Is there any elections that is devoid of rigging?

Can OBi vouch with his life that there was no rigging in the East?

And also where did the rigging happen, i keep asking this question?

Did they rig in lagos that he won, or was he supposs to win in zamfara or kano abi in borno?
I know there's no much difference between an agbado urchin and mikano urchin, so I don't bother much.

But should you say Obi lost, you should prove beyond reasonable doubt that the lost was deserving.

Why did INEC went against it's own rules of transmitting results from polling unit?.
Allocating results to Obi isn't more important than questioning how you arrived at the results you allocated to him when you didn't transmit the results as declared by the electoral act as amended

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 6:10am On Mar 04, 2023
Supremos:
The process via which you arrive is more important than your arrival.

Irrespective of who won the election, the conversation should be centered around building and straightening our electoral laws, which is ensuring our laws are fulfilled
Electoral laws r being metamorphosed to where it ought to be.

2007 we had TVC, with which u can vote with.
2011 we moved to PVC, the only tool accepted for voting.

2015 they introduced card reader for accreditation and authentication, politicians saw loopholes in this medium via Incidence form.

2019 nothing much happened..
2023 we have BVAs which eleiminates the crisis Cardreader had..
Today we now have more efficient way of Accreditation and Authentication of real voters against what happened in previous elections.

Thats why we had low votes from Borno that normally brings vague and phantom.results in the past elections, even Rivers, Delta, Akwaibom my state and other States that normally have phantom numbers.

I heard PO made reference to this during his press release...

He made a fool of his certificate andthe Excellency attached to his name.

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:11am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:

When Inec saddled with the responsibilty of conducting and announcing the winner has concluded their task...

The only thing pdp and Lp can do is to use the 25percent votes in Abuja to their own gain.

If supreme court can interpret this section and it favours them, inec has no option than to recall the sertificate of return and reconduct a by-election between Apc and Pdp.
You're still running around the conversation.

The Abuja 25% has been adjudicated and cleared since 2008, the winner must win 25% in Abuja. That's one case on it's own.

INEC going against it's own rules which they had at different fora promised they would adhere strictly to, is another issue.

So cancelling the entire process whether it been concluded or otherwise, is the only way to salvage the looming danger.

Then multiple cases of mutilation, result cancelling and swapping, number inflation, ballot stuffing etc is another case

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 6:12am On Mar 04, 2023
Supremos:
I know there's no much difference between an agbado urchin and mikano urchin, so I don't bother much.

But should you say Obi lost, you should prove beyond reasonable doubt that the lost was deserving.

Why did INEC went against it's own rules of transmitting results from polling unit?.
Allocating results to Obi isn't more important than questioning how you arrived at the results you allocated to him when you didn't transmit the results as declared by the electoral act as amended
Did Imo, Anambra, Enugu, ebonyi or Abia states transmit their results thru BVAs?
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by yaki84: 6:15am On Mar 04, 2023
Supremos:
You're still running around the conversation.

The Abuja 25% has been adjudicated and cleared since 2008, the winner must win 25% in Abuja. That's one case on it's own.

INEC going against it's own rules which they had at different fora promised they would adhere strictly to, is another issue.

So cancelling the entire process whether it been concluded or otherwise, is the only way to salvage the looming danger.

Then multiple cases of mutilation, result cancelling and swapping, number inflation, ballot stuffing etc is another case
Which danger r u talking about
Try and be dangerous and see what a single ak 49 bullet can do.

LP have instituted court process already..

Lets see where it will take them.
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:18am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:

Electoral laws r being metamorphosed to where it ought to be.

2007 we had TVC, with which u can vote with.
2011 we moved to PVC, the only tool accepted for voting.

2015 they introduced card reader for accreditation and authentication, politicians saw loopholes in this medium via Incidence form.

2019 nothing much happened..
2023 we have BVAs which eleiminates the crisis Cardreader had..
Today we now have more efficient way of Accreditation and Authentication of real voters against what happened in previous elections.

Thats why we had low votes from Borno that normally brings vague and phantom.results in the past elections, even Rivers, Delta, Akwaibom my state and other States that normally have phantom numbers.

I heard PO made reference to this during his press release...

He made a fool of his certificate andthe Excellency attached to his name.

Electoral laws are different from INEC innovations, which though maybe argued that they're inseparable.

What you are talking about are innovations in our voting processes. And there are relevant laws backing them up. Take for instance, the electoral act as amended states clearly that results should be transmitted or transferred from polling units to INEC servers. This is to checkmate incidents of fraud at collation centers. INEC promised to adhere strictly to that but it never did. The law states that where such measures were not adhered to, the process should be cancelled. So what's wrong in asking for outright cancellation

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:19am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:

Which danger r u talking about
Try and be dangerous and see what a single ak 49 bullet can do.

LP have instituted court process already..

Lets see where it will take them.
The agbado in you are showing already. I know you guys quite well.

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Khd95(m): 6:20am On Mar 04, 2023
Nigeria and backwardness., if something can be transferred electronically why use manual

Does it have to be in the law first, isn’t that the purpose of the machines from the makers or the drive behind acquiring them

If you were not going to transfer electronically you shouldn’t have wasted millions of naira acquiring these things

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:22am On Mar 04, 2023
yaki84:

Did Imo, Anambra, Enugu, ebonyi or Abia states transmit their results thru BVAs?
Agbado urchin, I have answered the question earlier. Irrespective of who adhered to it or not, it should be cancelled.

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Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by Supremos: 6:24am On Mar 04, 2023
Khd95:
Nigeria and backwardness., if something can be transferred electronically why use manual

Does it have to be in the law first, isn’t that the purpose of the machines from the makers or the drive behind acquiring them

If you were not going to transfer electronically you shouldn’t have wasted millions of naira acquiring these things
don't mind them. If INEC is saying they wasted our billions on innovations that they knew they wouldn't use, then Mahmood Yakubu should be arrested and jailed for life
Re: What We Passed Into Law Is Electronic Transfer Of Results - Ahmed Lawan by popesco123: 6:31am On Mar 04, 2023
Apc has made Nigerians prone to understanding simple English. First the argument was 25% in states AND FCT, people are still confused of "AND" today, now it is transmitting vs Transfer. It's too appalling because of politicians desperation. But it can never remain forever. Power is transient.

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