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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:51am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: The books you don't believe in told you that a myth character, a Roman propaganda was born in 6BC Niw you seem interested It's OK |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:52am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Judas of Galilee is a chrestus in JOSEPHUS book. Chrestus is not a name but a title, even your christ is a title, David and saul are christs. Chrestus means useful as i shown you, where did you see common name for gods? Are you empty?
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:52am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: There were no Christians in Nero time but now, na them de burn places? It's OK |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:53am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Chrestians burnt Rome according to tactitus and Suetonius “several ex-consuls did not venture to lay hands on his (Nero's) chamberlains although they caught them on their estates with tow and fire-brands... (Suetonius, The Life of Nero)”
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:54am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Chrestians burnt Rome. Y’all were called Chrestian at antioch
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:55am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:I don’t believe fact, I know it. Josephus book was talking about Judas of Galilee. The iesus chrestus in your New Testament is a Roman propaganda. Are you this daft? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:55am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: Mythical David and Saul or historical ones? You don't believe that someone that lived 2000 years ago existed but you believe that the ones who existed about 3000 years ago existed? De play What Josephus wrote concerning Jesus was propaganda as Jesus was a myth But what he wrote concerning judas is true? De play |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:56am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: He does not believe something He KNOWS it Cos he has seen what suits him or he was there De play |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:57am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: The ones in the tanakh, who said david and saul existed? Are you dumb. Read what i said “ Chrestus is not a name but a title, even your christ is a title, David and saul are chrestus according to tanakh. So Daft, let’s google yahweh, the storm god is everywhere on the internet |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:57am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: No Christians in Nero time but Nero accused them of burning Rome in his own time and they were burning some places at the same time period? De play |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:58am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: And you don’t know anything But believes, that’s why most religions are heavy om faith and believe, you believe what you don’t know. Dumb Believer So daft |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 7:58am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: From books you don't believe in right? Anything Tacitus and Soeticus says regarding anything that links to Christ and his disciples are lies but the burning of Rome the were wrongly accused of is true? De play |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 7:58am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Nero accused CHRESTIANS according to what historians said, Nero never wrote a book saying anything. So daft.
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:00am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I don’t believe books i know it. Tacitus and Suetonius didn’t say about “christ” but Chrestians and chrestus. Christianity evolved from Chrestianity. Who are those doing the altering?
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:00am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: What is faith? What is the basis for faith? Can you believe in something you don't have faith in? Is it only religious people that put faith in others? De play |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:01am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: You are believing in probability. I don’t need to have faith in Facts. What are the scenarios people put faith on? Is it when they are knowledgeable on the issue or when they have beliefs. YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW! So daft |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:03am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: You don't believe in something but can quote from it You're just a boy When are you resuming college Say hello to mum and dad for me |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:04am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman:Faith is probability?! This one is just an empty headed bloke See, have a nice day |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:04am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I know it why should I believe it? You don’t believe facts, you dummy. You are just a watchtower slave. You believe what you don’t know, i know it’s hard to grasp as a believer. Seek knowledge not beliefs, when are you writing waec, read to know your book not believe them. Greet your dad and mom for me and your masters in watchtower. Who is doing the altering?
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:06am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I have “faith” that man u will beat Chelsea but do i “KNOW” if man u will beat chelsea for sure? What’s the essence of faith if I’m sure something is gonna happen? faith and believe go hand to hand. And you believe what you don’t KNOW. I don’t believe books, i know it. You are the worthless slave that’s been indoctrinated with beliefs. Who is doing the altering?
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:10am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Next time have knowledge on what you quoting. Start reading from “and now ceaser” don’t cherry pick parts. Who are the sons of judas of Galilee according to Josephus?
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Apr 13, 2023 |
sonmvayina: Ọmọ if you stand in your street nobody see any god inside you so it's all about what you believe FAITH which nobody can SEE! |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:34am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: According to the Bible, we read that Caesar was a real person, you just confirmed it Festus was a real person, you just confirmed it Annas was a real person and of priestly duties, you just confirmed it There was a sanhedrin, you just confirmed it Jesus was the christ, you just confirmed it Jesus has a brother called James, you just confirmed it The Jews stoned people who were accuse2of serious charges, you just confirmed it James did not die by stoning, you just confirmed it There were a religious group called Sadducees, you just confirmed it Yet, you don't believe in books Yet, Jesus never existed Where there is no secular source to back an event in the bible, it is cos the Bible is myth Where there is secular source, the Bible writers forged it No Roman writer wrote any gospel but Jesus was a Roman propaganda The Roman historians that made reference to Jesus did not even attribute anything positive to him yet their writers can present him in an endearing personality but na dem still wan destroy the Bible and accused the same followers of the same propaganda of burning the empire. Yet the same Rome did not present the same endearing character as one of their citizen but a Jew, people they hated You're suffering from mental gymnastics The Christ you said is a general name and for Greek gods is now attributed to one man who has a brother called Christ? |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:35am On Apr 13, 2023 |
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:36am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: See this mumu man You said faith is belief right? Using same illustration, you mentioned of man u and Chelsea, remove faith and replace with believe and tell us if it means the same thing Olodo |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:39am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Who is the father of james according to Josephus? Who are the other brothers of james according to Josephus? Aemmyjah: What century is this ceaser? Do you think it’s talking about king ceaser? What century was jesus born? Judas was mentioned by Josephus in 4 BCE, relating to the Golden Eagle Temple Cleansing (Ant. 17.149-167) and in 6 CE, regarding the Census of Cyrenius (Ant. 18.1-10) The birth narratives in Matthew and Luke are both inconsistent with the reign of Pilate and the ministry of John the Baptist. For example, if Jesus were born in 4 BCE and died thirty-three years later, then he would have died around 30 CE, during the reign of Pilate but five years before John the Baptist’s death. (Ant. 18.116-119) If Jesus were born in 6 CE and died thirty-three years later, then he would have died in 39 CE, a few years after John the Baptist but two years after Pilate left Judea. The Gospels do not mention the early life of Jesus, except when he taught at the Temple at the age of twelve. (Luke 2:41-52) Otherwise, no information was given from 6 CE (Census of Cyrenius) to 26 CE (supposed date of Pilate - see chapter 1). This lack of information mirrors Josephus' War where nothing was written from 6 CE (Census) to 26 CE (Pilate). (War 2.167-169) Josephus barely expanded on this paucity of information in Antiquities, where he listed the Roman procurators during this twenty year stretch, but little else. (Ant. 18.26-35) It is possible that these missing years from Josephus could have been the result of pious editing. The actual crucifixion of Judas the Galilean may have been deleted. Note that Josephus detailed the deaths of Judas' three sons, James, Simon, and Menahem and his grandson, Eleazar. With each of these occasions, Josephus referred back to Judas the Galilean. It is hard to believe that Josephus omitted the circumstances behind the death of Judas. So it is very possible that the writings of Josephus were edited to remove some interesting details of Judas' life and his eventual crucifixion. According to the Slavonic Josephus, this same John came baptizing in the Jordan in 6 CE, right before the mention of Judas the Galilean and during the reign of Archelaus (4 BCE- 7 CE). (4) In addition, the Psuedoclementine Recognitions acknowledged John right before describing the various Jewish sects. (5) Josephus described these same sects right after his introduction of Judas the Galilean. (Ant. 18.4-22 and War 2.118-166) So the 6 CE timeframe for John the Baptist is attested to by more than one source. Could this John the Baptist have been baptizing and proclaiming different Messiahs in both 6 CE and 29 CE? The odds of that would be millions to one. The only logical conclusion is that Jesus and Judas the Galilean were the same person. This explains why the Slavonic Josephus' version of events has been ignored over the years. If John actually came in 6 CE, then all of New Testament scholarship is, at best, misguided. That would not only make the scholars look foolish but would also prove Pauline Christianity a sham religion.
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:40am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Maynman: Abeg summarize your comments |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Aemmyjah(m): 8:41am On Apr 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: He does not have 'FAITH' in God But God lives in him |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:41am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:See this watchtower slave If i replace believe with faith, is it not also under probability? Do i KNOW if man u will beat chelsea? If i knew man will beat chelsea then what’s the use of faith and beliefs? YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW, Chrestian. |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:44am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Josephus wrote on on Judas of Galilee. Early church fathers use Josephus work to write New Testament . Josephus book, Judas the Galilean was known throughout the nation for his ability in interpreting the law. We get the same feeling for Jesus when reading the Gospels. The Pharisees constantly invited him to dinner in order to discuss issues. We are privy to only the negative aspects of those meetings. |
Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by Maynman: 8:47am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Who is the father of james that gave birth to him and his brother call “jesus”, According to Josephus? Aemmyjah: Josephus detailed the life but not the death of Judas while mentioning the death of Jesus but not one word about his life. Josephus invested much effort in recounting Judas' life, even touching upon the lives of his sons, James, Simon, and Menahem and his grandson, Eleazar. (Ant. 20.102; War 2.433-434; War 7.253) Each time the descendants were recognized, Josephus recounted their pedigree. This did not occur in just one isolated time period. Simon and James were crucified in 46-48 CE, Menahem stoned in 66 CE and Eleazar led the Sicarii at Masada in 73 CE. This theme of Judas the Galilean ran throughout Josephus' narrative. the death of Judas was removed by a later Gentile Christian who believed the death of Judas by crucifixion might attract too much unwanted attention. Most scholars believe that the passage in Josephus, which details the death of Jesus, is a late third to early fourth century forgery.
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Re: It's Easter, But Did Jesus Really Die On The Cross - A BBC Documentary. by jaephoenix(m): 8:54am On Apr 13, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Ancient Hebrew and Aramaic had no J. That should be obvious |
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