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Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 8:47am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:



Preventing Ukraine from joining NATO. Taking four regions and demilitarizing Ukrainian military. Ukraine share a 40km boarder with Russia while Finland and Sweden share 1-2000 km boarder with Russia which is still far that’s a gain to NATO not Ukraine.

Every single threat from Nato to Russia before the invation of Ukraine have been multiplied by at least 10 times, so what exactly has Russian gained security wise?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Badassniggga(m): 8:51am On Aug 29, 2023
Flier:
You obviously don’t know what you are saying,Russia was once feared not NATO and now no one fear Russia anymore,NATO needed Ukraine but now has Finland with 1,200 miles border with Russia.This war has already exposed Russia
Only mighty on google not in real life
lol delude yourself all you want grin grin. No one fears Russia anymore? Then why not take on Russia directly of you don't fear her? grin
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 8:51am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:


Please go back and do research on what happened in 2014, that’s were the war started. Try to read both eastern and western media to get a balance. What you’re saying it’s a one sided analysis from the west .
Why are you all Putin people like this.

In 2014, there was internal crises in Ukraine.

The people of Ukraine wanted to join EU because of Economic reasons.

Putin offered to give Ukraine a grant of Money so that they wouldn't join the EU for business purposes

The Ukrainian President changed overnight and decided to accept Putin's offer.

The people of Ukraine Revolted against their President and Removed Him.

Some people feel that NATO supported the Coup against the Ukrainian President.

Putin in annoyance invaded Ukraine and annexed Cremia. At this time it was discovered that Russia had a chunk of their people in the Ukrainian army.

Ukraine lost the whole of her Navy to Russia in just one day.

After that, Russia began sponsoring war in Ukraine by arming the Donbas area against Ukraine.

This is the beginning of the division between Ukraine and Russia.


You don't know history yet you refer others to check history.

Tell me, in what way did Ukraine harm Russia or her interest?
By wanting to join EU for the sake of their economy?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by omooba969(m): 8:52am On Aug 29, 2023
All I read is 'men dying & boys dying' - can we still say men and women are equal?

Equal rights but not Equal responsibilities I guess...🥴😒
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 8:54am On Aug 29, 2023
Judolisco:
did u bother to follow d negotiations before d invasion? Will the US allow Russia to have a base in Mexico or Canada?

Well what Putin said he was trying to prevent have actually increased even many folds. Finland and Sweeden have joined nato with over 1,000 km extra border threats to Russia, so I ask what have Putin gained in trying to secure Russia as he claimed?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Alexrayz(m): 8:54am On Aug 29, 2023
raskymonojendor:

NATO gained more militarily advanced and rich nations into it's rank and more closer to Russia with respect to border than ever. It was pointless invading Ukraine.




Lol u think at the end it be a war of NATO and Russia no at d end it be against war against member countries after d war give Russia say 3 years it will bounce back Germany hold the world hostage where are they nw or u wanna talk about Japan but at d end Russia will be bigger have more access to Natural resources even let d rest join thier union so long they still have the highest stock pile of nuclear weapon in the world dat enough
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 8:56am On Aug 29, 2023
Badassniggga:
All you wrote is just nonsense and speculations without any proof to back them up. It's only people on the internet without access to credible intelligence that thinks they know it all. You can never know what the Russian intelligence body knew that led to the decision of the invasion, so just calm down with your story.
Are you saying that you are not aware of the objective of Russia for me invading Ukraine!?


It has nothing to do with Intelligence : these are publicly stated facts.

It's a shame you don't know what Russia claimed as the reasons for invading Ukraine.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 8:58am On Aug 29, 2023
TenQ:

Why are you all Putin people like this.

In 2014, there was internal crises in Ukraine.

The people of Ukraine wanted to join EU because of Economic reasons.

Putin offered to give Ukraine a grant of Money so that they wouldn't join the EU for business purposes

The Ukrainian President changed overnight and decided to accept Putin's offer.

The people of Ukraine Revolted against their President and Removed Him.

Some people feel that NATO supported the Coup against the Ukrainian President.

Putin in annoyance invaded Ukraine and annexed Cremia. At this time it was discovered that Russia had a chunk of their people in the Ukrainian army.

Ukraine lost the whole of her Navy to Russia in just one day.

After that, Russia began sponsoring war in Ukraine by arming the Donbas area against Ukraine.

This is the beginning of the division between Ukraine and Russia.


You don't know history yet you refer others to check history.

Tell me, in what way did Ukraine harm Russia or her interest?
By wanting to join EU for the sake of their economy?


Like I said you’re talking from one side of your mouth . All the massacres that happened in Donbass was under reported. Ukraine started killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine. Tell me why the people of Donbass decided to join Russia If Ukraine was fair to them .
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:00am On Aug 29, 2023
egoldman:


Every single threat from Nato to Russia before the invation of Ukraine have been multiplied by at least 10 times, so what exactly has Russian gained security wise?

The major threat was Ukraine joining NATO and protecting the people of Donbass which they’ve achieved so far . Next
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Omowise1: 9:01am On Aug 29, 2023
Flier:
They can win it’s just a matter of time but might not be militarily,unrest may start in Russia and russia will withdraw just like its past wars with Afghanistan and USA vs Vietnam
That is what they called winning,this is the only way to beat a super power (grind them till their citizens start protest)beside Ukraine isn’t a joke either,Russia just have too many soldiers to lose

Russia cannot afford to lose this war they are facing an existential threat. Different to the Russian-Afghan war, Ukraine is on the border and failure will lead to disintegration. 500,000 dead Ukrainians and counting with 4 times that number maimed. Current kill ratio looks to have worsened beyond 10:1 where it has been.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 9:05am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:



Like I said you’re talking from one side of your mouth . All the massacres that happened in Donbass was under reported. Ukraine started killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine. Tell me why the people of Donbass decided to join Russia If Ukraine was fair to them .
Donetsk and Luhansk regions are in Ukraine and NOT in Russia.

Ukrainians killing ethnic Russians!?
Show me evidence before 2014 if you can?

Are you aware that Russia armed people in this regions to fight Ukraine? If they are killed as a result of this war should that be an excuse? Are you also saying that no Ukrainian soldiers died as a result of the Putin sponsored war against Ukraine by people from Donetsk and Luhansk regions?

Balance your news sir!

EVIL is evil where ever you find it
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 9:06am On Aug 29, 2023
Omowise1:


Russia cannot afford to lose this war they are facing an existential threat. Different to the Russian-Afghan war, Ukraine is on the border and failure will lead to disintegration. 500,000 dead Ukrainians and counting with 4 times that number maimed. Current kill ratio looks to have worsened beyond 10:1 where it has been.
You think Ukraine can afford to lose this war that was brought upon them by Russia?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by tete7000(m): 9:07am On Aug 29, 2023
KingLennon:
War should always be the last option. Why didn't the US army send their own soldiers to the frontline to defend Ukraine? But yet, they are supporting Nigeria against Niger. If the war happens, Nigerians will die and Nigeriens will also die. The winner will be the fuckèn whites sad

US can't send their soldiers to defend Ukraine. It is Ukrainian war, not American war. The choice to start the war was taken by Zelensky, the Ukranian president and if the Ukrainians desire, they can put an end to the war, let stop being sentimental about this. The west only helps provide support they need to see that they come out victorious and everyone all over the world is hurting. While Ukrainians died from the war, all over the world many others are dying from hunger occasioned by inflation arising from the war. It is a hard one, the truth however is that the entire world is in one form or the other part of the world. When you however read about the rise of despot Hitler and compare it with Putin aggressive expansionist programme, you might understand why some world leaders feel it is better to have this than to have another global conflict in future. How this in itself will not lead to a more definite global conflict remains to be seen. The world needs prayer.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:07am On Aug 29, 2023
egoldman:


You don't know. anything, Putin claimed he invaded Ukraine to secure Russia, ask yourself is Russia more safe today from Nato influence and power?

Yes of course. Ukraine is not a NATO member, the people of Donbass has been liberated. Bricks is expanding the world is not a multi polar world it’s now clear that if Russia is on your side NATO can do you nothing.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:09am On Aug 29, 2023
TenQ:

How!?

Isn't it Russia pushing Ukraine to their grave?

If Russia entered Ukraine without a fight what would be the gain of Ukraine?
*There president would be replaced by a Russian puppet
*They would lose Cremia permanently
*They would loose ALL their coastal areas and port to Russia.
*They would not even be able to export a pin without Russia (their economy would be crippled)
*No one can stop their annexation into Russia


Are this what you hope will happen?


It’s ok for other countries to be puppet to the west but can’t to Russia keep on eating western sh/t .
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:12am On Aug 29, 2023
TenQ:

Donetsk and Luhansk regions are in Ukraine and NOT in Russia.

Ukrainians killing ethnic Russians!?
Show me evidence before 2014 if you can?

Are you aware that Russia armed people in this regions to fight Ukraine? If they are killed as a result of this war should that be an excuse? Are you also saying that no Ukrainian soldiers died as a result of the Putin sponsored war against Ukraine by people from Donetsk and Luhansk regions?

Balance your news sir!
EVIL is evil where ever you find it


The People of Donbass live in Ukraine but are ethnic speaking Russians . They started suffering persecutions when Ukraine started being pro-west . I don’t have energy to show you anything do your research .
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Judolisco(m): 9:12am On Aug 29, 2023
egoldman:


Well what Putin said he was trying to prevent have actually increased even many folds. Finland and Sweeden have joined nato with over 1km extra border threats to Russia, so I ask what have Putin gained in trying to secure Russia as he claimed?
oga Finland and Sweeden have no territorial issues with Russia, they don't pose significant threat to Russia, unlike Ukraine who has been having a cold war with Russia... If Finland and Sweeden start building any significant military setup, then it will get Russia's attention... Why is d US stopping Iranian nuclear expedition since 2014... It's because they see iran as a threat... All dis stuffs no difficult oga
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 9:13am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:


Yes of course. Ukraine is not a NATO member, the people of Donbass has been liberated. Bricks is expanding the world is not a multi polar world it’s now clear that if Russia is on your side NATO can do you nothing.

Finland and Sweden have joined nato thereby creating more than 1,000 kilometers territorial threats to Russia and call that being more secured, keep dreaming.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by izubext007: 9:14am On Aug 29, 2023
Slava Ukraine
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 9:21am On Aug 29, 2023
Judolisco:
oga Finland and Sweeden have no territorial issues with Russia, they don't pose significant threat to Russia, unlike Ukraine who has been having a cold war with Russia... If Finland and Sweeden start building any significant military setup, then it will get Russia's attention... Why is d US stopping Iranian nuclear expedition since 2014... It's because they see iran as a threat... All dis stuffs no difficult oga

You are wrong, do you rem you remember how Putin threatened Sweden and Finland when they announced their intentions of joining NATO? If it's nothing to Russia why the threat of some sort of retaliation from Putin? Do you know that Nato will now have right to deploy advanced offensive deadly weapons in both Sweden and Finland? Now Russia will have to defend not only Polish side of its border with nato but two extra, add the present Ukraine invasion and you call that being more secured? You dey try.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:21am On Aug 29, 2023
egoldman:


Finland and Sweden have joined nato thereby creating more than 1,000 kilometers territorial threats to Russia and call that being more secured, keep dreaming.

Bricks added 6 more nations beat it
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by PeterZoom: 9:24am On Aug 29, 2023
Life has turned to nothing these days. So sad.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 9:26am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:


Bricks added 6 more nations beat it

Haba, we dey talk of Nato, you dey talk of brics, is brics a military alliance? Was brics formed to defend any nation millitarily? Brics is purely economic union that is still on paper, though it might get head in future, but for now it's still on paper, bros plz be serious because I am.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 9:26am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:



The People of Donbass live in Ukraine but are ethnic speaking Russians . They started suffering persecutions when Ukraine started being pro-west . I don’t have energy to show you anything do your research .
Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa people live in Niger Republic?
Does it give Nigeria the right to invade Niger?

Are you aware that Ethnic Yoruba people live in Benin Republic?
Does it give Nigeria the right to invade them?

Can you give me any history before 2014 where Ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk regions were marginalised or killed or persecuted in Ukraine. Didn't this all start after 2014 with Putin's annexation of Cremia and him arming them against Ukraine?

Do your studies carefully sir!
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by TenQ: 9:27am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:



It’s ok for other countries to be puppet to the west but can’t to Russia keep on eating western sh/t .
Are you saying that the problem is a fight between who will control Ukraine?

If this is true, then why fight Ukraine rather than your so-called enemy!?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 9:28am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:


The major threat was Ukraine joining NATO and protecting the people of Donbass which they’ve achieved so far . Next

Yes that was then before the invation, but now another has been created, courtesy of two more nations joing nato with even. bigger longer border than Ukraine,how hard is this to understand?
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Kaytixy: 9:30am On Aug 29, 2023
Good for them. They were also happy when there government invaded countries like Libya, iraq and killed children and women. Let them get the feelings too. Make nobody quote me oo except you want thunder to fire u
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:33am On Aug 29, 2023
egoldman:


Yes that was then before the invation, but now another has been created, courtesy of two more nations joing nato with even. bigger longer border than Ukraine,how hard is this to understand?

Belarus will checkmate those two nations with Russian nuclear warhead placed there. Bricks has also expanded with six nations which is paving way for a multipolar world .
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by anonymous1759(m): 9:34am On Aug 29, 2023
TenQ:

Are you saying that the problem is a fight between who will control Ukraine?

If this is true, then why fight Ukraine rather than your so-called enemy!?

Ukraine has made themselves the enemy
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by sangresan(m): 9:34am On Aug 29, 2023
Godszilla:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66581217.amp

Ukraine has lost more than 300,000. Disregard any news from BBC which is a propaganda channel.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by Nobody: 9:35am On Aug 29, 2023
Bfly:


Millitary is not suffering as you think. Read about Aguiyi Ironsi and other past Millitary head of state. They die daily to protect your life.
The military is suffering. Since you have decided to go back into our history, "a dey ground, and I full am". Educate yourself with the GDP of Nigeria when Nnamdi Azikiwe was the president and Tafawa Balewa was the prime minister ...then compare with Aguiyi Ironsi and Gowon. What did they know about government, economics, and foreign policy? For your information, it was after Gowon was overthrown he returned to school to pursue his Ph.D. That is why he is sound today.

Aguiyi Ironzi did not die for me. He died like a fowl. Yes. He was the chairman behind the scenes who planned the first coup and they killed Tafawa Balewa and one of the big politicians in Sokoto. Do you know where they killed Balewa? In Ibadan. Oh. So, Obafemi Awolowo ran to the north and he did not know anything about it.

The north was pained. And Aguiyi Ironsi assumed power. The North told him several times to give them justice and bring out the people who planned the coup, but Ironsi thought he was smart. He ignored them for 6 months. That was what brought Gowon to power.

So, tell me did Ironzi die for me? Neve NCr. He died because of his greediness. Period.


You can read about the corruption in the first Republic being the reason for the first coup.
Most internal developments in Nigeria happened during the millitary era, civillians have destroyed everything.

This statement cracked me. And when they overthrew the corrupt government, who did the military employ? The same corrupt politicians. Lol. They know nothing about economics, government, and foreign politics. So, they still employed the same old corrupt politicians. The only issue is that they employed opposition. It is like now....if the military takes over, they will employ people like Saraki and Dino who are in opposition. Lol.
Should I start mentioning those who worked with Ironsi and Gowon?

And since the military has no opposition, na straight corruption. The road is clear. Lol.

Millitary govt punishes the enemy of the state and any perceive threat. With functioning Millitary you won't experience all the kidnapping and petty crime threatening the life of the masses.

They usually punish those in the camp of the government they overthrow and employ opposition. Is this not what the military in Mali, Burkina Faso did? Go and check the cabinet of this new military leader in Niger. Lol.

Do you know how Babangida used politicians to embezzle? Lol. Dey play.

Also Atiku is more experienced in presidency than both Tinubu and Obi. Forget about his desperation.
Based on what? Atiku of all people. Lol. Obi sef is better than Atiku. How did Obi make his money? And how did Atiku make his own? Lol. Let's leave the Pandora paper aside cos that tarnished his image big time..but he made his money before he got into public office and government. Atiku was a big boss in the custom. Lol. He stole money. Leave story.

Even Atiku's boss wrote a book about his pranky and shady ways. Lol. So, if you ask me..none of them is qualified. None. But Atiku is the worst in my opinion. Everyone has his opinion, and it's okay.


Also Niger is a sovereign state and should be allowed to decide for themselves. France or Nigeria has no right to infringe it, If not for Tinubu feeling insecure having a Millitary govt as neighbour. We have Mali, Bukina faso. Nigerians are still running to those countries for survival. The west are there. Foreign companies are there.
Sure. That sovereign nation you mentioned is why I will say this. Because Niger is one, we could not go inside Niger before this time. But see...it is an opportunity for Nigeria to enter Niger now. What is our mission? To put an end to Boko Haram. All weapons are imported to Nigeria via Niger. The border is so large that it will take us billions to patrol it. Or do you think we can embark on a wall like Trump's wall? Lol. So, we need to go inside and destroy all the networks inside. This war is the only opportunity we have. If we miss this opportunity, we cannot get it again. This is my opinion. (Read my old posts for more about this)


As for Taliban, Nigeria has forces that are capable of resisting any external force. Nigeria security problem is internal forces.
Lol. Taliban. You dey play? People America Japa from. A beg no make me laugh. Do you really understand the kind of desperation and determination involved when brainwashed with religion? Dey play.


Im not saying one is better. Any fuctioning one is better. They have thesame intentions. Only that human nature is flawed Millitary or civillian.
No sir. I will leave you with the words of wisdom from the great Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Chief Gani Fawehinmi. He said, "The worst democracy is better than the best military rule". I agree 100%.

Sir, we have made progress. We are finally at the stage where we will computerize our voting system so that we can start seeing the real winners of elections. To me...Peter Obi is a hero in the last election, though, I am not his fan. Listen, I am not a supporter of the four leading candidates cos I know they are not the best for us. And as you know, the latest slogan is "All eyes on the judiciary".

Sir, do you want the military to take away the 1999 to 2023 sacrifices of Nigerians? Ha! You don't still understand what you are calling for. Just imagine one small captain takes over, Do you think Jonathan Goodluck Akinwunmi Adesina, Ngozi Iweala, Oby, Pat Utomi, etc. that we know are brains will agree to work with them? Na the likes Dino will accept bro. Now, tell me what will come out of it?

Do your calculation, sir.
Re: "Dying By The Dozens Every Day" - Ukraine Losses Climb - BBC by egoldman(m): 9:37am On Aug 29, 2023
anonymous1759:


Belarus will checkmate those two nations with Russian nuclear warhead placed there. Bricks has also expanded with six nations which is paving way for a multipolar world .

Now you throw Belarus into the mix, who doesn't know that so called Hardman there is Putin puppet, has no local support, even Putin told him the nuclear weapons there will still be commadered from Moscow.

It's like you did not read my response earlier about the brics, bros I don taya arguing nonsense, you win, make I rest.

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