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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 8:38pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
What an astounding turnaround. After boldly saying: Unfortunately for you, you didn't notice that God did NOT instruct Moses to carry out the command of killing the Israelites who had gone rogue just as God didn't ask Moses to break the commandments on the stone tablets. When next will you contradict or turnaround your saying? Samiri has been linked to the rebel Hebrew leader Zimri on the basis of their similar names and a shared theme of rebellion against Moses’ authority. Others link him to the Mesopotamian city of Samarra and suggest that he came from a cow-worshiping people, giving his name as Musa bin Zafar. Abraham Geiger proposed the idea that Samiri is a corruption of Samael, the name of an angel with similar functions to Satan in Jewish lore. There is no consensus among Islamic scholars on which, if any, of these identifications is correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiri
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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 8:40pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
There is no consensus among Islamic scholars on which, if any, of these identifications of As-samari is correct. |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 9:35pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: I asked you some basic questions about your source of History and you bring forth Wikipedia!? Does this even make sense to you in a discussion involving history lasting almost 4000 years ago? Where is the source of your research? How old is your source? Did the eye witness document the History of the As-Samari? If your source is younger than the Torah, I am sorry, it is fake! If your source is not from the first party concerned, I am sorry it is a conjecture. Like I said: Neigher Mohammed nor Allah explained who the As-Samari is, where did you get your history? Why does your history contradict the version of Moses himself? I admit my errors when I am wrong and there is no shame in that. I am not like you who will insist on riding your errors as long as Mohammed and Islam is protected. Please get this right. I only God is infallible. |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 9:37pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Meaning that your Islamic scholars are making conjectures which were not substantiated with old historical facts. |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 9:51pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Really!? In Qur'an 3:3 Is the Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ the same as In English: "confirming what is between His hands"? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:25pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
Such will definitely occur when piece bit translations are made and attention is not paid to the influence of other words on another in the sentence. Let's be logical here the Quran is confirming itself or what people new that had been revealed before?
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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:32pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
I will commend those who made great efforts at translating or explaining however one may be wrong to assign perfection to them. More so I doubt there are any of the numerous hadith you rely on that categorically say Muhammad pbuh identified who As-samiri is. TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:40pm On Sep 14, 2023 |
How much research have you yourself done? In any case read: AN EVALUATION OF THE IDENTITY OF SĀMİRĪ IN THE QURʾĀN by Tolga Savaş Altınel Qur'an 20:85: a Samaritan in the time of Moses? - Khaled Colwill https://qurantalkblog.com/2019/07/05/clear-quran-critique/ TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 4:11am On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Exactly, neither Mohammed nor Allah explained who the As-Samari is. Thus, all your Tafsir writers and scholars who were at least 200 years after Mohammed's death were all making up conjectures to solve the problems created by Mohammed in his Qur'an. The numerous hadiths I rely on are your own religious books made and certified by your own trusted scholars, I so, what where am I guilty? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 4:21am On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:You are saying that a publication written in 2008 is your source for an event that occurred almost 4000 years ago!? I am not understanding! Any source that would negate the account of Genesis by Moses must be at least as old as Moses. I guess that Tolga Savaş Altınel person is also now a prophet of Islam! LOL! |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 4:25am On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:I said: Is the Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ the same as In English: "confirming what is between His hands"? This is a proof that Your English translations of the Qur'an CANNOT be Trusted one bit. Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ It is a word for word extract from Qur'an 3:3 Why do your scholars mistranslate such a simple Arabic? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:52am On Sep 15, 2023 |
What is research? What do you know of research methods? TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:55am On Sep 15, 2023 |
Are these part of a verse or the whole verse? TenQ: Verses of the Quran are read, understood and translated within their contexts or columns and according to the grammatical progression of their speech, and in accordance with the grammatical formation of their words. Not your mischief intended Tafseer-e-ayaat of word to word translation. |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 11:09am On Sep 15, 2023 |
By your submissions the translation in this image is wrong? When did you become an expert of Arabic and translations to other languages? TenQ:
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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 11:21am On Sep 15, 2023 |
Your word choice of conjecture points at a fact you terribly dislike to hear. One day either in this life or after you will know by the will of the almighty. TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:00pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:I pity you sir. If you don't repent, I you will open your eyes in death realising that the Deciever has decieved you. You will wonder why you stobornly chose Mohammed rather than the Messiah. Of course, I have tried to make you see reason: unfortunately, I the demon of Islam has imprisoned your soul. Why did the Messiah come? Why would you reject His message? Unless a man is Born Again, he cannot enter Paradise! |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:01pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Are your faith members wrong in this translation? TenQ:
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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:02pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:The words in the Qur'an is Very wrong. If not Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:04pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Sorry Sir You can see how Muslims twists the word of Allah to say what their Scholars want it to say. Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:04pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Which verse is this? TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:05pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
The only person twisting here is you. Presenting part and hiding the rest. Reminiscent of some kind of people. TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:06pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:They were quoting your erroneous translations! Most times, but I quote your translations except when I want to feel cus on your erroneous translation! Why is it difficult to Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:07pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:10pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
You are extremely wrong. Amuse yourself. https://njjewishnews.timesofisrael.com/how-a-biblical-mistranslation-led-to-anti-semitism/ TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:12pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
You are unable to understand. Did Allah reveal ayahs in parts or Surahs in parts? Can you not see reason why that is? TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:33pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Now I didn't translate. Remember my translations cannot be trusted TenQ: How can a book confirm itself?
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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:50pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Yes, Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:51pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:I have given you the phrase to interpret. What is difficult with that? Your Islamic translations are at best ficticious! Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Is this the answer to Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 1:10pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Define what an Ayah is first? Maybe then you will understand my question Explore2xmore: TenQ: |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 1:26pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Surah= Chapter Ayah= verses Yes , Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 1:49pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Escapist technique! Your Islamic scholars translation (those who translate your Qur'an)cannot be trusted.! Answer my question : Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
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