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Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:13pm On Sep 15, 2023
An āyah (Arabic: آية, Arabic pronunciation: [ʔaː.ja]; plural: آيات ʾāyāt) is a "verse" in the Quran, one of the statements of varying length that make up the chapters (surah) of the Quran and are marked by a number.

Did parts of an ayah get revealed or ayat of a Quran Surah get revealed?

TenQ:


Surah= Chapter
Ayah= verses


Yes , Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part

Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:17pm On Sep 15, 2023
Did you not say?
Wrt to the emboldened why then do you ask questions regarding translations of me?
TenQ:

I said:

Is the Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
the same as
In English: "confirming what is between His hands"?


This is a proof that Your English translations of the Qur'an CANNOT be Trusted one bit.


Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ

It is a word for word extract from Qur'an 3:3

Why do your scholars mistranslate such a simple Arabic?

TenQ:


Escapist technique!

Your Islamic scholars translation (those who translate your Qur'an)cannot be trusted.!

Answer my question :

Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 3:25pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Did you not say?
Wrt to the emboldened why then do you ask questions regarding translations of me?



Muslims will insist on lies till tomorrow : it's your nature.

It is Honourable to own up to an error or mistake or misunderstanding : but not you people.

The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
is the same as
In English: " confirming what is between His hands"

Don't bother again: I won't confuse you with the Truth as your mind is made up.
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2023
Was مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ revealed in Isolation?
Tell me was this alone revealed or along with other words?
Can you establish the meaning of the aforementioned in exclusion of the verse in which it's contained?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:55pm On Sep 15, 2023
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!
TenQ:


Muslims will insist on lies till tomorrow : it's your nature.

It is Honourable to own up to an error or mistake or misunderstanding : but not you people.

The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
is the same as
In English: " confirming what is between His hands"

Don't bother again: I won't confuse you with the Truth as your mind is made up.


Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 5:46pm On Sep 15, 2023
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.

He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel

He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

Which of these make the most sense expert Tenq?

Does the book have hands?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 6:00pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.

He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel

He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

Which of these make the most sense expert Tenq?

Does the book have hands?
Are you correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it?
Check the context is it saying the book has hands?


Compare Quran 3:3 with

Quran 2:41:
Literal Translation: "And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is [already] with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."

Quran 2:89:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers."

Quran 2:101:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know [what it contained]."




Finally,


Translate
Qur'an 2:91
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُوا بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا نُؤْمِنُ بِمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَيَكْفُرُونَ بِمَا وَرَاءَهُ وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ قُلْ فَلِمَ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنبِيَاءَ اللَّهِ مِن قَبْلُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

It also contain
The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 6:52pm On Sep 15, 2023
TenQ:

Are you correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it?
Check the context is it saying the book has hands?


Compare Quran 3:3 with

Quran 2:41:
Literal Translation: "And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is [already] with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."

Quran 2:89:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers."

Quran 2:101:
Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know [what it contained]."




Finally,


Translate
Qur'an 2:91
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُوا بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا نُؤْمِنُ بِمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَيَكْفُرُونَ بِمَا وَرَاءَهُ وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ قُلْ فَلِمَ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنبِيَاءَ اللَّهِ مِن قَبْلُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

It also contain
The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ ≠ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ

I gave you a verse with exactly that phrase and you cannot deliver.
Let us know where you got stuck.

The direct/exact words of Allah are in arabic and not the translations

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 8:43pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 8:44pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:

مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ ≠ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ

I gave you a verse with exactly that phrase and you cannot deliver.
Let us know where you got stuck.

The direct/exact words of Allah are in arabic and not the translations


So, non of you are correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it?

It's okay!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:24pm On Sep 15, 2023
Guy affirming and confirming are synonyms yes?
There however is just one مُصَدِّقًا where did you get the second?

This your translation repeats some phrases/words. Recheck it please.
TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:29pm On Sep 15, 2023
Assuming you are totally speaking the truth put each word or phrase in this verse with the translation/translation of the meaning lets know if you didn't insert affirming what is between His hands or confirming what was before it as they both cannot be there at the same time.
Appreciate in advance
TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:47pm On Sep 15, 2023
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words.
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.

B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ
So judge between them according to what God has revealed.

C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا
And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.


Where do you have
confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands?
Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning?
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B
وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C
وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E
إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F
D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.

E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones.
F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.

Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48

TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:03pm On Sep 15, 2023
Very very good. You have shown here
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) please which arabic is confirming in this same verse?

TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 10:07pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
An āyah (Arabic: آية, Arabic pronunciation: [ʔaː.ja]; plural: آيات ʾāyāt) is a "verse" in the Quran, one of the statements of varying length that make up the chapters (surah) of the Quran and are marked by a number.

Did parts of an ayah get revealed or ayat of a Quran Surah get revealed?


I am sure that you don't know that
Al-Qalam was revealed in Mecca Except verses 17-33 and 48-50 which are from from Medina

Al-Muzzammil was revealed in Mecca Except verses 10, 11 and 20, which were revealed at Medina


Only verses 1-3 person of Al-Maa'un was revealed in Mecca while the rest were revealed in Medina

An-Najm was revealed in Mecca Except verse 32, which was revealed in Medina

https://tanzil.net/docs/revelation_order


TenQ:


Surah= Chapter
Ayah= verses


Yes , Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in parts

Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3?

Is it true that Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in parts?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 10:08pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words.
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.

B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ
So judge between them according to what God has revealed.

C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا
And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.


Where do you have
confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands?
Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning?
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B
وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C
وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E
إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F
D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.

E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones.
F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.

Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48

affirming is not confirming
Khai!
You fall my hand!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 10:11pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words.
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.

B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ
So judge between them according to what God has revealed.

C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا
And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.


Where do you have
confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands?
Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning?
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B
وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C
وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E
إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F
D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.

E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones.
F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.

Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48

You are just splashing about aimlessly as if your comprehension is below average.

You can rest in peace as I have answered you. LOL!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 10:13pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Assuming you are totally speaking the truth put each word or phrase in this verse with the translation/translation of the meaning lets know if you didn't insert affirming what is between His hands or confirming what was before it as they both cannot be there at the same time.
Appreciate in advance
Sorry!
What you thought was impossible has beenade bare to you. Your argument has now shifted from affirming to confirming!
SMH


Please go and sleep or answer the question!


Is it true that Mohammed's Urine is the river of Paradise?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:14pm On Sep 15, 2023
In any case show what you translate to confirm and what you translate to affirm in Q5:48
TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!

Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2023
TenQ caught lying now he says another being should die.
How convenient.

I have remained on this thread. How many threads are you active on in the last 12hrs?

TenQ:

You are just splashing about aimlessly as if your comprehension is below average.

You can rest in peace as I have answered you. LOL!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2023
TenQ:

You are just splashing about aimlessly as if your comprehension is below average.
Explore2xmore post=125817428:
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words.
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.

B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ
So judge between them according to what God has revealed.

C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا
And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.


Where do you have
confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands?
Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning?
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B
وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C
وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E
إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F
D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.

E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones.
F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.

Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48

You can rest in peace as I have answered you. LOL!
Explore2xmore:
TenQ caught lying now he says another being should die.
How convenient.

I have remained on this thread. How many threads are you active on in the last 12hrs?

Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by TenQ: 10:19pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
In any case show what you translate to confirm and what you translate to affirm in Q5:48
I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments.
You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.

Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:24pm On Sep 15, 2023
TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!
TenQ:

I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments.
You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.

Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner!



End the chat as you are exposed saying confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands is the translation of the meaning of Q5:48.

My goodness it is obvious some people are dead to the truth and long lost a conscience.
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:28pm On Sep 15, 2023
Obviously you cannot produce affirming and confirming in this verse.

Explore2xmore:
The expert

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ

It occurs here too. Fit in your translation!

TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!



TenQ:

I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments.
You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.

Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:31pm On Sep 15, 2023
End in a civil manner without your defense or acceptance of your mischief?

Haha! See who referred to escapism.
Own up that you attempted to manipulate and deceive.

TenQ:

I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments.
You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.

Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:49pm On Sep 15, 2023
Sorry you lied? Were misled or what?
Reduce the typographical errors in your writing please or is this code?

TenQ:

Sorry!
What you thought was impossible has beenade bare to you. Your argument has now shifted from affirming to confirming!
SMH


Please go and sleep or answer the question!


Is it true that Mohammed's Urine is the river of Paradise?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:50pm On Sep 15, 2023
Your rascality now remembers civility?
TenQ:

I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments.
You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.

Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:53pm On Sep 15, 2023
Now you want to correct what you know too little off?

Fantastic!

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TenQ:

So, non of you are correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it?

It's okay!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:58pm On Sep 15, 2023
Explore2xmore:
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words.
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.

B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ
So judge between them according to what God has revealed.

C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا
And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.


Where do you have
confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands?
Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning?
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ
فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B
وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C
وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E
إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F
D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.

E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones.
F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.

Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48

TenQ:

As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.



The translation :
Quran 5:48
"And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."


Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:

مُصَدِّقًا (affirming)
لِمَا (to what)
بَيۡنَ (between)
يَدَيۡهِ (his hands)
So, it translates to
"affirming what is between his hands"


Are you satisfied!






@Mightysparrow can you be an unbiased judge or is it @SirTee15 that will uphold the truth?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 11:05pm On Sep 15, 2023
The Question was are parts of ayah revealed or parts of Surahs?
How many verses of Al-Alaq were revealed in the very first revelation.

You tried to divert from your fraud! Allahu Akbar Kabeera!

TenQ:


I am sure that you don't know that
Al-Qalam was revealed in Mecca Except verses 17-33 and 48-50 which are from from Medina

Al-Muzzammil was revealed in Mecca Except verses 10, 11 and 20, which were revealed at Medina


Only verses 1-3 person of Al-Maa'un was revealed in Mecca while the rest were revealed in Medina

An-Najm was revealed in Mecca Except verse 32, which was revealed in Medina

https://tanzil.net/docs/revelation_order




Is it true that Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in parts?
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by LegalWolf: 9:22am On Sep 16, 2023
Hey FxMasterz TenQ et. al

I can't even keep up with the loads of comments and mentions. At a point, I noticed one future thief was quite matured enough to know that I have been very busy and that accounts for the reason I haven't gotten back. But again, like a Cyclothymia patient, he relapsed still thinking I avoided him.

Despite my reservations, thank you TenQ (and FxMasterz) for checking up at a point. I do not take this for granted. While I will love to engage you all, I just have better things to do with my time. I have more rewarding engagements and relationships to build with others I find more worthy in intellect than you two. And I mean no harm. So why I will continue to respond depending on availability and boredom, do not expect that I will dignify you with a response going forward.

Today is shabbath and after working for 6 days, I want to rest like yhwh. Do have a lovely weekend and would see when we see!
Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by FxMasterz: 10:38am On Sep 16, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz TenQ et. al

I can't even keep up with the loads of comments and mentions. At a point, I noticed one future thief was quite matured enough to know that I have been very busy and that accounts for the reason I haven't gotten back. But again, like a Cyclothymia patient, he relapsed still thinking I avoided him.

Despite my reservations, thank you TenQ (and FxMasterz) for checking up at a point. I do not take this for granted. While I will love to engage you all, I just have better things to do with my time. I have more rewarding engagements and relationships to build with others I find more worthy in intellect than you two. And I mean no harm. So why I will continue to respond depending on availability and boredom, do not expect that I will dignify you with a response going forward.

Today is shabbath and after working for 6 days, I want to rest like yhwh. Do have a lovely weekend and would see when we see!

Welcome back my friend. Whatever you do, remember that your soul is precious, and that Jesus gave His life to give you a befitting eternity.

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