casualobserver:


My friend please use your brains. Even if he is a drug dealer, even if he lied on everything in his form, even if his not a Nigerian, even if there Bola Tinubu is not his name, there is nothing you can do now. You cannot introduce at the Supreme Court what you did not introduce at the PEPT. Why is it so hard for so called educated people to understand this very basic concept?

MrSly:
If this is true then the man tinubu can be referred to as a shameless grand father. How would an elderly man be this reckless and mean in illegality without recourse to possible effects on his progenies.

Jideji:
The Nigerian court said its a pre election matters

Cantonese:
"Counsel for CSU, Michael Hayes, while speaking before Judge Jeffrey Gilbert in Chicago, stated that the school was not in a position to authenticate Tinubu’s certificate as either fake or genuine”.

They cannot authenticate a certificate issued by them? Abi na roadside university?

ugbanante:
"Counsel for CSU, Michael Hayes, while speaking before Judge Jeffrey Gilbert in Chicago, stated that the school was not in a position to authenticate Tinubu’s certificate as either fake or genuine"
Haven gone through the above quote from the defence, do u still need further explanation as to y this battle never get head since?
On whose side is the Western country?
God abeg oh, answer my passionate plea.

yewit37486:


You still do not get the point. As long as you are seeing this from a political perspective you can't.
Not everyone is interested in the nonsense political tribal back and forth people come here to do. The point is no normal person should say IF a forgery was committed, it is fine and not a big deal, unless your value system is wack. If that is the case, then just say so.

Would you be okay with an employee of your company presenting a forged certificate? Put sentiments aside and be objective in your reasoning.

Raskimonojendor:
Sensational headline to sell their paper

WorldRichest:
Jagaban Borgu is invisible. Even his former university is confused. Nobody can cage the air, nobody can cage a ghost. The Jagaban is incredibly invisible

casualobserver:


I am not seeing this from a political perspective. I am probably one of the most o next I’ve posters on Nairaland. Again I say you are the one missing the point…..there is. Nothing you can do about it under the law.

Secondly since you admit. You are not familiar with the case, maybe you should resist the temptation to comment on matters you are not conversant with?

As per the emboldened, Again I say many Nigerians speak but lack basic English comprehension. You are arguing a matter I never said, where did I say it is fine?

jude33084:


We deserves what we get in Nigeria honestly.

We are here to know the truth at least don't you agree?

We deserve to know who or what our president is?

casualobserver:

I am not seeing this from a political perspective. I am probably one of the most objective posters on Nairaland. Again I say you are the one missing the point…..there is. Nothing you can do about it under the law.

If anyone is biased and Unobjective her, it is clearly you. You are accusing him of certificate forgery, the university has said he attended and graduated. Why would a man forge his certificate knowing there was controversy over it before? You are the ones accusing, you are the ones to prove. Why am I joining issues over accusations that are not proven? Same way you accused him of drug dealing when the US government said officially no there were so convictions or criminal records. You have a track record of manufacturing Bull why would o anyone take you guys seriously? When you have something to prove, fine. Until then I am only saying as far as this election cycle is concerned, it does not matter anymore.

GeneralDae:

That has been done already by Tinubu since June. He took certified copies of his Transcripts to the tribunal.

Raskimonojendor:
Sensational headline to sell their paper

Counsel for CSU, Michael Hayes, while speaking before Judge Jeffrey Gilbert in Chicago, stated that the school was not in a position to authenticate Tinubu’s certificate as either fake or genuine.

Anyone that believes this bullcrap right here, needs to get his brain checked. Not only can my school verify and authenticate my Bsc and Msc, you can even do that online in a fraction of seconds. Tinubu is not only a drug baron, he is also a corn con man.

DiscoverID:
Tinubu defeated them and scuttled their plans of taking over lagos and pushed back their agenda of dominating the Yorubas by 70 years. They hated him because he's the only one that has the capability of doing such.

They won't stop this hysteria and will never like him or any Yoruba person. There's this collectivity in purpose and written consensus from ibos to oppose any strong political leader from other regions by default.

Thus, Tinubu defeating Peter Gringory Obi is the end of their political relevancy, hence you understand the mass hysteria and hatred.

After Tinubu, power goes back to the north then back to south south and then back to the north and back to south west and back to the north. Like announcing lymphoma to a patient the dying days of political relevance of the ibos is in weeks.

They will never like Tinubu , they know that we know !

Raskimonojendor:
Sensational headline to sell their paper

Raskimonojendor:

The case would be thrown out for lack of evidence.
The CSU lawyers are smart.

The uni also categorically stated that certificates are ceremonial in the USA and that CSU was not an exception. No wonder I have never been asked for my certificate in North America. All my previous and current employers have only asked for my transcripts.

yewit37486:


And we wonder why the rest of the world sees Nigerians as scammers. Would you be okay with an employee of your company providing a fake certificate? How do we even reason in this country for goodness sake?!!!!!

By the way, what do you mean by "experts" especially as you put it in quotes? Are you referring to forgers? If so, you clearly have no values.

I personally feel the president should be allowed to focus on governing the country, but to extend that to justifying forgery (if that was the case) is a no no.

Originalsly:


Yes... "experts " is referring to forgers. I'm not a supporter of forgery . Take what I wrote in context .... this is about the attempt to unseat Tinubu. This is different from someone presenting a forged certificate... one that shows he has passed certain exams when he did not. After all .... is he qualified or not? ... CSU can say.... if they confirm... then on what grounds he should step down? It can't be he was unqualified.....so why Atiku is making fussung?

Originalsly:
This certificate thing is not making any sense .... CSU needs to only verify if Tinubu graduated and was presented a certificate in 1979. What he does with it after should not be their concern. What I think really happened is Tinubu either misplaced his certificate .... or his certificate was damaged and could not get a duplicate before the presentation deadline. He then got the "experts " to replace it but they didn't research well enough to get the correct information that was missing. At the end of the day..... even if he presented a fake certificate ... that cannot remove him from office... so what's the point? Why not spend this energy in being an effective opposition leader and keeping Tinubu and his administration in check?

Originalsly:
This certificate thing is not making any sense .... CSU needs to only verify if Tinubu graduated and was presented a certificate in 1979. What he does with it after should not be their concern. What I think really happened is Tinubu either misplaced his certificate .... or his certificate was damaged and could not get a duplicate before the presentation deadline. He then got the "experts " to replace it but they didn't research well enough to get the correct information that was missing. At the end of the day..... even if he presented a fake certificate ... that cannot remove him from office... so what's the point? Why not spend this energy in being an effective opposition leader and keeping Tinubu and his administration in check?

plaindealer:
...

He hired experts to fake replacement certificate even though it cost nothing to get a replacement?

You people are certified mentally crippled and unintelligent... I swear..

yewit37486:




Forget Pres. Tinubu for a minute, let me understand your reasoning.

Assuming you misplace your original certificate, then it's okay to ask "experts" to forge a copy to replace it when you can simply request for a replacement? Or if the deadline for a replacement (assuming there is one) passes, then it's okay to forge it?

The kind of people I am seeing on NL these days is scary. You are boldly saying there is nothing wrong with forgery provided you graduated (I pasted your initial comment for reference)

Politics aside, are you aware that forgery is a crime?

Originalsly:


Again... I'm not saying it's OK to tender forged certificates. Don't overlook that I said this is what I think happened.... I'm assuming there was a deadline ... he couldn't get an official copy in time so he forged one. Would I do that? No. Would I advise someone to do same? No. If I employed someone who tendered a forge document and I find out later ... would I keep him as an employee?... even if he had the qualifications but just the certificate was forged ... as we presume in this case? No ... I'll fire him. But I have the power to do that ... I'm not bound by any laws or regulations. In Tinubu's case... he cannot be removed from office unless blah blah blah. Does presenting a forged duplicate fall under the blah blah blah regulations that require his removal? I don't think so. But.... I'm sure there are other actions that can be taken against him ... I guess reprimand ... maybe impeachment or whatever is outlined in the disciplinary action book.

And yes... I'm aware forgery is a crime. Are you aware he is the sitting President and is immune to most crimes while in office? Maybe after he steps down ... like Trump ... then all his shenanigans can be brought to court. Hope I made a little sense somewhere.