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Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by ak47mann(m): 10:16am On Oct 20, 2011
UK health officials are looking into the role of evangelical churches including the Synagogue Church of All Nations, with UK headquarters in Southwark, South London, for advising parishioners to abandon HIV drug treatments in favor of prayer according to a British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) report.

Already several AIDS patients who stopped taking their medications on the advice of their pastors have died.

At the website of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, headed by millionaire Pastor T.B. Joshua of Nigeria, photos appear of people the church claims to have been cured of HIV through prayer.

In one example, the church's website claims: "Mrs Badmus proudly displays her two different medical records confirming she is 100% free from HIV-Aids following the prayer of Pastor T B Joshua."

According to the website of the Synagogue Church (SCOAN), by using anointing water "you are positioned for healing." "HIV-Aids healing" is listed on the church's website among "miracles" it says it can perform.

"Cancer healing" and "baby miracles" are also advertised.

The church's UK website promotes a monthly "prayer line" for which it says: "If you are having a medical condition, it is important you bring a medical report for record and testimony purposes."

Videos posted on the internet show its services in south London, in which participants who claim to have arthritis, asthma and schizophrenia say they have been healed after being sprayed with "anointing water" provided by the church.

Mary Buhari, 44 , from central London, told the BBC she had had a phone conversation with a representative of the church, in which she was told she could be cured of HIV.




"I was told they can cure any illness on Earth through prayer, including HIV," she said.

However, when asked by BBC London if it claimed its pastors can cure HIV, SCOAN responded: "We are not the healer. God is the healer. Never a sickness God cannot heal. Never a disease God cannot cure.

"We don't ask people to stop taking medication," the church added. "Doctors treat; God heals."

At least three people in London with HIV have died after they stopped taking life saving drugs on the advice of their Evangelical Christian pastors.

"We see patients quite often who will come having expressed the belief that if they pray frequently enough, their HIV will somehow be cured," said Prof Jane Anderson, director of the Centre for the Study of Sexual Health and HIV, in Hackney.

"We have seen people who choose not to take the tablets at all so sometimes die."

Conservative MP Norman Fowler condemned pastors giving this advice, saying: "It's dangerous to the public and dangerous in terms of public health."

"It's irresponsible," he said. “Pastors should instead "come off the air on it, look at things much more seriously, and not give this completely wrong advice to the public".






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Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by Beaf: 10:21am On Oct 20, 2011
I saw the news on BBC. I hope that people go to jail for it.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by ak47mann(m): 10:34am On Oct 20, 2011
I saw it as well,these churches should slow down and realized there are things you don't play with cus of money, not with things like this,very sad.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by redsun(m): 11:12am On Oct 20, 2011
They toy with the fo.olishness of their believers,fo.olish peeps like beaf. Put a typical nigerian in control of NASA space centre,the centre of ultimate knowledge,he will still be dumb.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by Beaf: 11:16am On Oct 20, 2011
redsun:

They toy with the fo.olishness of their believers,fo.olish peeps like beaf. Put a typical nigerian in control of NASA space centre,the centre of ultimate knowledge,he will still be dumb.

Do you realise that your parents, brothers and sisters etc are Nigerian? Just keep making foolish statements.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by redsun(m): 11:23am On Oct 20, 2011
I mean typical like u beaf. The one that sees lie as truth, backwardness as progress,the one in total darkness.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by Beaf: 11:27am On Oct 20, 2011
redsun:

I mean typical like u beaf. The one that sees lie as truth, backwardness as progress,the one in total darkness.

Do I look like any member of your family? Lol!
You just abused your parents and are now so drug addled that you think I'm your dad?

Did TB Joshua swear for you? grin
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by ak47mann(m): 11:31am On Oct 20, 2011
Beaf:

Do I look like any member of your family? Lol!
You just abused your parents and are now so drug addled that you think I'm your dad?

Did TB Joshua swear for you? grin
cheesy cheesy
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by redsun(m): 12:10pm On Oct 20, 2011
How can i mistake a nappy headed animal like u for a member of my noble descent, beaf? You are an epitome of nigerian ill,that is why u are typical
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by Beaf: 12:19pm On Oct 20, 2011
redsun:

How can i mistake a nappy headed animal like u for a member of my noble descent, beaf? You are an epitome of nigerian ill,that is why u are typical

If your ancestry is not "nappy headed," are they white? Dude, you're smoking too much gbuf today!
All black people have "nappy hair." Are you now so doped that you are racist against yourself? Na wa o!

Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by redsun(m): 12:27pm On Oct 20, 2011
Let me reprase it for u beaf since u cant on the level- diaper headed.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by nwkrix: 12:45pm On Oct 20, 2011
Wot has NASA got to do with the topic of discussion?

The bible says speak no ill of my anointed, So, I suggest dt if u r not sure of d source of a man's power don't speak at against him yet lest u sin if u r wrong afterall.
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by redsun(m): 12:51pm On Oct 20, 2011
He has no fcking,he can only deceive the deluded like a magician captivates his audience with masterful tricks
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by tbjfansuk: 1:10pm On Oct 20, 2011
As tales of the gruesome slander propagated by TB Joshua Watch continue to evoke emotions from scoan supporters on the internet, their hidden agenda is becoming all the more obvious to everyone, Just like the Biblical pharisees in Jesus day, they seem to be ever ready to tarnish the reputation of TB Joshua, using every cunning means, misinterpreting his best intentions and giving no single thought to the faith related crisis they may leave in their wake as long as their sinister purpose is achieved.

They recently hatched another long nursed evil with a fiendish article titled: TB Joshua and SCOAN- a beginners guide! In which they sourced an article from the BBC Website claiming it was an article on SCOAN London, an excerpt from their article reads:

“Today the BBC News website published a story by Andy Dangerfield on SCOAN London“.

(particularly note the use of the words “…story… ON Scoan london”)

We’ve spotted the oddity in this statement and found it thoroughly embarrassing that they would resort to Lies from the very first sentence in their post, as the article in question was never about Scoan London, but about how some churches HIV prayer cure caused three deaths, due to the advice by the churches evangelical pastors to stop taking their antiretroviral drugs. There was absolutely no reference in the BBC report linking the three deceased persons to Scoan London, this is just one of TB Joshua watch’s disgusting pharisees tactic of inferring stuff to back up their cynicism, rather than stating obvious facts.

According to the BBC report, the HIV prevention charity African Health Policy Network (AHPN) only expressed concerns over the growing number of London churches that have been telling people to stop medication, that the power of prayer will “cure” their infections, and that the trend is becoming widespread across a number of churches of which they suspected the Scoan to be part of because of its HIV healing testimonies.

Trying to join dots and connect the facts stated in the BBC report to the aspersions cast by TB Joshua watch, brings one question to mind;

Just how does a baseless suspicion by AHPN that Scoan is one of  such churches telling people to stop medication, get to mean that the three deaths occurred at Scoan London?

Absolutely no way at all, yet these are two very separate and distinct ideas cunningly merged by TB Joshua watch to back up their instinctive cynicism, and such is the appalling deceptiveness they orchestrate on the internet on regular basis. On careful thought to the ANHP’S suspicion, We have more than enough reason to believe that the SCOAN could never be one of such churches as the ANHP suspected, being a ministry that boasts of a medical department in the church premises with doctors and nurses working tirelessly there, its unthinkable that they would reject or denounce any usage of medication. As the church itself was quoted to have said in the article:

“We don’t ask people to stop taking medication,” the church added. “Doctors treat; God heals.”

Another indication of whom they are behind their sly disguise is the way TB Joshua watch seemed sinisterly eager to use the above report, quoted the report out of context, hurriedly posted a link to it on their site within several hours of the news release, and claiming they know four other deceased persons under similar circumstances to those stated in the BBC News besides the three reported. Thus they succeeded in a serpentine manner to come up with a total of seven deceased persons in Scoan, three of which weren’t in any way connected with Scoan London as seen in the BBC report and four of which are unverifiable allegations, Little wonder Jesus often referred to the pharisees as snakes, and a brood of vipers, (Matt 23:33), apparently due to their deceptive antics and tactics, no different from those employed by that old serpent- Satan, to beguile eve. As expected of the pharisees, they remain undaunted in their quest to fight TB Joshua to a standstill, but in all its nothing more than a fools errand, considering the  more challenging battles TB Joshua has confronted and conquered, their precursors who brought all manner of allegations against Christ to condemn him would be proud of them in this regard, as they’re perfectly following their footsteps much to their shame and our utter disappointment.

As one commenter said on TB Joshua watch, this is just a disgusting attempt by Satan to stop many of his captives from going over to the strongest power that defeats him so that he can keep them in eternal bondage, even if Scoan has indeed fallen short of a godly ministry as they claim, it wouldn’t be the only one that has fallen amongst thousands existent in the Uk, the implications of all these rants about SCOAN alone just lends enormous credence to the fact that they are indeed the only ministry in the world giving  Satan a hell of a heartache, and not being able to defeat the mightiness of God’s power in SCOAN leaves him with only one option, to use his agents to  peddle lies to discredit the ministry in the eyes of the world and it would take a look of faith on the part of christian faithfuls world wide to see through this satanic duplicity.

Source: http://watchprophettbjoshua.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/tb-joshua-watchs-pharisee-chronicle-1/
Re: Millionaire Nigerian Pastor Tb Joshua's Church Linked To Fraudulent Aids Claims by tbjfansuk: 1:30pm On Oct 20, 2011
anti scoan watch what you say

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