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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Sholuwa241: 3:36pm On Nov 14, 2023
Depriest2020:

You must be from southern Nigeria who believes their women must be in their thirties and their men in their forties before they start preparing for marriage. Please here in the north people in their forties are already grand parents, so don't be surprised someone said a person in their sixties should be her grandparents. My mum became a great grandma in her sixties.

Hmm
I am speachless Mel

End of discussion

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Tightguy(m): 3:41pm On Nov 14, 2023
..... But why would you leave a cup of tea on your desk while closing from work for the day?

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by gidjah(m): 3:45pm On Nov 14, 2023
Every one is busy over there ,though there's fun,but you've gat to do that with some particular sect. The culture over there dosent give room for sound socialism unlike Africa were we are one good full circle. One of the celebrities in London who has a grown up daughter of about 25, then told us he hasn't seen his daughter for close to a decade ! In the same state and country oo!! She isn't even married but working after school.But we Africans no go gree that one even while married ,your parents can still steal out a visit on you just to tell you ' WE MISS U ' ! though some of us seem not cooll with this intrusion,..we yet tend to appreciate and ever live with this awesome memories there after. I AM FOREVER GREATFUL TO GOD FOR MAKING ME AN AFRICAN, I LOVE AFRICA .

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by FaithBrain1994(m): 3:58pm On Nov 14, 2023
Even Frence and the U.S Presidents prefers to be called by his first name. I seriously don't know what all these sir/ma/Alhaji BLA BLA BLA all about.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by eepeepook: 4:02pm On Nov 14, 2023
Home is always an option. Make she come back.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by iamdapsyj(m): 4:10pm On Nov 14, 2023
doggedfighter:


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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by musicwriter(m): 4:12pm On Nov 14, 2023
Darevofpeace:


"My supervisor is in his early 60s, so it was super hard for me to start calling him by his name every time. This man is old enough to be my grandfather and he wants me to call him his first name. Iā€™m getting more familiar with it, though.

One of the things I donā€™t like about being abroad is the fact that everybody minds their business. It is a double-edged sword. In Nigeria, you donā€™t like people being in your business, but sometimes, you actually need it.

Last year, I was sick. I had an emergency operation so I couldnā€™t go to work for about a week. I was in my house and the next thing, I was in the hospital, so I couldnā€™t inform anybody. Not a single person called or texted me. Not one. Not even the HR person.

I left a cup of coffee on my desk the day before the incident and when I came back one week after, I met it right there with mold in it. Sometimes, it gets really annoying in Nigeria when people put their noses in your business, but Iā€™d rather have that than have nobody care at all.

I always like to say that if I died in my apartment, nobody would know until my body started smelling because even my rent would automatically pay itself from my account and the landlord wouldnā€™t care to check on me."

~ Source: Zikoko

There's actually a documentary on the last part. A lady died in a Western country (I forgot the name) and it took some years before people knew. The air conditioner was still working over the years and somehow she didn't smell. She was still sitting on her couch watching TV when they opened the door. And the TV was still on over the years!!

But I prefer to live that way.

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by MyAmericandream(f): 4:35pm On Nov 14, 2023
queengift:
How old are you?, that your 60years old supervisor is old enough to be your grandma

I know of 68years old woman thatā€™s already a great-grandma.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by MyAmericandream(f): 4:42pm On Nov 14, 2023
Depriest2020:

You must be from southern Nigeria who believes their women must be in their thirties and their men in their forties before they start preparing for marriage. Please here in the north people in their forties are already grand parents, so don't be surprised someone said a person in their sixties should be her grandparents. My mum became a great grandma in her sixties.

Thatā€™s why most of them are uneducated and live in abject poverty.

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by TrustNone: 4:55pm On Nov 14, 2023
Nwaotu10:
My kind of life actually.

God, abeg, send me abroad!!!
I will commit suicide after my dad's burial cry
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by jojothaiv(m): 5:08pm On Nov 14, 2023
Nwaotu10:
My kind of life actually.

God, abeg, send me abroad!!!
No forget me too.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by zombieHUNTER: 5:21pm On Nov 14, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:

Low self esteem is bad.

Those of you suffering from inferiority complex and long history of chronic years of generation to generation poverty background that is so pathological that you think these toilet-stealing countries are "saner clime " and their citizens are better than you should read this.

Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan (1660) expressed his views that "Man's life was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." Hobbes inferred that people are naturally selfish and wicked and cannot be trusted. Therefore the primitive or "natural" state of humanity is violent and brutal.

What the lady is experiencing is not culture shock but retrogression and what Thomas Hobbes described as the primitive "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short" life of an uncivilized man. They will soon be dying out before they reset and now reverse the trend.

Our society is more developed and civilised than their own but those from here or over there who are from very poor inferiority complex background and with poor education won't be able to understand.

Any country where anyone would not look out for the other is destroying the same foundation that built their society. Go and read about sociological perspectives, what is happening in french society is unusual and it's borne out of fear from a sociologically brutish, violent, primitive uncivilized society. They are too scared stiff to care and reach out to support one another. They are solitary , brutish and primitive. If you are raised there, or raise a family there, you will become same brutish, violent, nasty uncivilized primitive man like them.

Human beings, civilised human beings that belong to civilised societies like ours, are a social creatures, we are not like Leopards or cheetahs that only come together when it's time for sex , and after sex, move apart ike the way these prehistoric people are behaving.

I am Yoruba from Lagos city, the number 1 start up city in Africa. I am a patriotic Nigerian who is profoundly proud of my civilised Yoruba culture, heritage and that my Yoruba forebears did not raise us in this primitive french society way.Check my signature for free stuffs!

After typing on social media..
you'll go back home to Makoko
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by pacespot(m): 5:36pm On Nov 14, 2023
Darevofpeace:


"My supervisor is in his early 60s, so it was super hard for me to start calling him by his name every time. This man is old enough to be my grandfather and he wants me to call him his first name. Iā€™m getting more familiar with it, though.

One of the things I donā€™t like about being abroad is the fact that everybody minds their business. It is a double-edged sword. In Nigeria, you donā€™t like people being in your business, but sometimes, you actually need it.

Last year, I was sick. I had an emergency operation so I couldnā€™t go to work for about a week. I was in my house and the next thing, I was in the hospital, so I couldnā€™t inform anybody. Not a single person called or texted me. Not one. Not even the HR person.

I left a cup of coffee on my desk the day before the incident and when I came back one week after, I met it right there with mold in it. Sometimes, it gets really annoying in Nigeria when people put their noses in your business, but Iā€™d rather have that than have nobody care at all.

I always like to say that if I died in my apartment, nobody would know until my body started smelling because even my rent would automatically pay itself from my account and the landlord wouldnā€™t care to check on me."

~ Source: Zikoko

Your kinds are the ones destroying Nigeria and other African countries today, because these things you say you lack are the reasons why Nigeria and Africa are lagging behind other countries.

Mind your business and do not put your nose in other people's businesses unless you are invited. Live and let others live. Why do you think you care about other people's feelings more than themselves for you to intrude their privacy uninvited?

When you were sick did you inform your colleagues at work and they didn't care? NO. But you think because you were not present at workplace they would automatically assume something was wrong with you. This is not how things work in those countries because people respect each other's boundaries. Only the ones you have formed a very close personal relationship with will dare to ask after you in your home, even at that they would have to inform you before coming.

Islam is scorned all over the world today because it has taught its followers never to mind their business, it wants to convert people by guns and bombs. It doesn't believe in the principle of human coexistence forged on respect for each other's opinions. It believes only Islamic way is right.

So my friend, you are a busybody person and I hope you had someone to tell you this earlier. You are lucky to travel out of Nigeria to see how a civilized world should be.

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by rexesq(m): 5:39pm On Nov 14, 2023
queengift:
How old are you?, that your 60years old supervisor is old enough to be your grandma

E tire me o. Ah! You go abroad no be outside country.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by thecommunist(m): 5:47pm On Nov 14, 2023
Angelfrost:
Honestly, apart from the first name basis thing, every other thing up there is how me and my guys live our lives even here in Naija.


The older I get, the more I wonder why most Nigerians can't mind their fvcking businesses... Like, Dem swear for una?!!

However, the part about not being seen at work and no one checked on you is kinda farfetched...! Employers are largely mandated or duty-bound to do that.
here in Canada, my supervisor and colleague would not only try to reach out, but would also wish me quick recovery if they find out I am sick and did not show up to work. My office is cleaned everyday after work hours by the cleaning lady and any food or drink I left on my desk that is getting spoilt would be thrown our for me.
This may be so because my 90 % of the people in my work are immigrants from, my direct colleagues are from Iran, Jordan Indian and Philipines, My supervisor is white and he has started to get influenced my us. he asks about our wellbeing and families.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Nwaotu10(m): 5:50pm On Nov 14, 2023
TrustNone:
I will commit suicide after my dad's burial cry

"Death" is a safe passage whispering my name, and I drew closer with each passing day. grin

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Angelfrost(m): 5:53pm On Nov 14, 2023
thecommunist:

here in Canada, my supervisor and colleague would not only try to reach out, but would also wish me quick recovery if they find out I am sick and did not show up to work. My office is cleaned everyday after work hours by the cleaning lady and any food or drink I left on my desk that is getting spoilt would be thrown our for me.
This may be so because my 90 % of the people in my work are immigrants from, my direct colleagues are from Iran, Jordan Indian and Philipines, My supervisor is white and he has started to get influenced my us. he asks about our wellbeing and families.


Thank you for this clarification... That's how it should be.

The keyword is "Influence".
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Neddyogu(m): 6:31pm On Nov 14, 2023
Depriest2020:

You must be from southern Nigeria who believes their women must be in their thirties and their men in their forties before they start preparing for marriage. Please here in the north people in their forties are already grand parents, so don't be surprised someone said a person in their sixties should be her grandparents. My mum became a great grandma in her sixties.

Not everyone marries kids.

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by kozmicity: 6:52pm On Nov 14, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:

Low self esteem is bad.

Those of you suffering from inferiority complex and long history of chronic years of generation to generation poverty background that is so pathological that you think these toilet-stealing countries are "saner clime " and their citizens are better than you should read this.

Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan (1660) expressed his views that "Man's life was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." Hobbes inferred that people are naturally selfish and wicked and cannot be trusted. Therefore the primitive or "natural" state of humanity is violent and brutal.

What the lady is experiencing is not culture shock but retrogression and what Thomas Hobbes described as the primitive "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short" life of an uncivilized man. They will soon be dying out before they reset and now reverse the trend.

Our society is more developed and civilised than their own but those from here or over there who are from very poor inferiority complex background and with poor education won't be able to understand.

Any country where anyone would not look out for the other is destroying the same foundation that built their society. Go and read about sociological perspectives, what is happening in french society is unusual and it's borne out of fear from a sociologically brutish, violent, primitive uncivilized society. They are too scared stiff to care and reach out to support one another. They are solitary , brutish and primitive. If you are raised there, or raise a family there, you will become same brutish, violent, nasty uncivilized primitive man like them.

Human beings, civilised human beings that belong to civilised societies like ours, are a social creatures, we are not like Leopards or cheetahs that only come together when it's time for sex , and after sex, move apart ike the way these prehistoric people are behaving.

I am Yoruba from Lagos city, the number 1 start up city in Africa. I am a patriotic Nigerian who is profoundly proud of my civilised Yoruba culture, heritage and that my Yoruba forebears did not raise us in this primitive french society way.Check my signature for free stuffs!


Beautiful šŸ‘šŸ‘

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Depriest2020: 7:08pm On Nov 14, 2023
Neddyogu:


Not everyone marries kids.
My mum married @ 21, my elder sister @ 23, my elder sister's daughter @ 22? So if that's what you call child then I don't know who taught you that.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Depriest2020: 7:12pm On Nov 14, 2023
pinkguy:
what are the benefits you guys got from suchlike ,apart from having Ten million almagiri beggers
The tribe I belong to, we don't have anything like almajiri.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Depriest2020: 7:17pm On Nov 14, 2023
motionarena:


Maybe girls from your tribe.
Start 4ucking at a very early age
The ones from your place start f**king at 35 abi?
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by humberjade: 7:58pm On Nov 14, 2023
Probz:


No-oneā€™s an island but no-one has two heads. Thereā€™s only one you. If you canā€™t be truly comfortable with yourself, who are you going to rightfully be comfortable with? Why are so many extraverts allergic to a little of their own company and incapable of doing anything alone for 5 minutes?

You seem not to get what I am trying to say, what I am saying is that, when you live abroad living all by yourself can be lonely and dangerous depending on the country of residence. So many people die alone in their apartments and no one finds out until the corpse start smelling. I can't even begin to mention instances when you wish you had someone close.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Probz(m): 8:34pm On Nov 14, 2023
humberjade:


You seem not to get what I am trying to say, what I am saying is that, when you live abroad living all by yourself can be lonely and dangerous depending on the country of residence. So many people die alone in their apartments and no one finds out until the corpse start smelling. I can't even begin to mention instances when you wish you had someone close.

No, I understood exactly what you were saying but at the end of the day Iā€™m also saying what Iā€™m saying. Life would also be less dangerous if people minded their own business a little more and werenā€™t looking for which stranger to mug or knife just for the sake of it (to use a twisted example) or even cat-call. You can still have a robust social network and value meaningful social connections/friendships but also be capable of being alright in your own company and not desperately need social validation and company ā€™round the clock to stop you from rotting in your chair. Some people are allergic to doing anything alone and when itā€™s like that youā€™ve got to question how much someone hates themselves that they canā€™t even do a quick Tesco/Shoprite/Asda/Walmart run alone or enjoy a quiet night in with some chamomile tea and a bit of Baileyā€™s (and whatever else the drift wants to catch and vibe with) the odd Saturday night. As if being alone with yourself (emphasis on the ā€œyourselfā€; aka, you, yourself and you, your own person) for just a little bit is a punishment worse than prison. You donā€™t have to be particularly introverted to enjoy a bit of quiet in your own space every now and then. It doesnā€™t negate awesome social networks and support that absolutely should be there for you whenever you need it but it does add a bit of needful self-sufficiency to your life. The outer world would be boring if everyone veered super-far in that direction but I think a lot of people in general just need a bit more of that.

The irony of it is that a lot of people are more inclined to view people with a quiet temperament thatā€™s not the blatantly stoic, self-assured/strong-silent (or at least menacingly, fiercely ā€œindependentā€ antisocial kind) type as overly soft, overly shy (they may or may not be and if thatā€™s genuinely the case and not just a sort of lay misinterpretation of quiet calmness as shyness, since a lot of people use quiet and shy synonymously; they both have an air of modest diffidence and a certain kind of gentleness), timid and stifled by over-protective parents as kids and all that wonderfully complimentary stuff (including that theyā€™re somehow socially deficient in a way and itā€™s almost like thereā€™s something wrong with them) and any of that may or may not be the case (just absolutely not inherently) but thereā€™s an obvious link between quiet and being more comfortable alone more of the time, and thereā€™s a connection with preferring ample solitude to just doing your thing and getting through many terms of life alone, because when youā€™re like that you just donā€™t need the same level of social stimulation to feel comfortable and just do stuff. Itā€™s often the loud ones who are lacking in those independent life skills but theyā€™re assumed to be confident and competent just because theyā€™re loud, and thatā€™s what a lot of cultures (ironically especially in the West) preferentially value now. In Nordic societies and places like Japan, people are much more insular and self-contained. Far, far more than French people are known to be.

Not saying itā€™s not important to be able to speak up for yourself and surround yourself with people when you need to because it definitely is but youā€™ve still got to stand on your own two feet at least sometimes or at least just go the extra mile in finding like-minded communities and stuff. Youā€™ve got to be okay enjoying your life with or without lots of constant gregariousness but sometimes youā€™ve just got to adapt a little and find what you need rather than just expecting it to come to you.

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by pinkguy(m): 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2023
Depriest2020:

The tribe I belong to, we don't have anything like almajiri.
but you have Boko Haram and thousands of extremist
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by pinkguy(m): 8:49pm On Nov 14, 2023
Depriest2020:

My mum married @ 21, my elder sister @ 23, my elder sister's daughter @ 22? So if that's what you call child then I don't know who taught you that.
no graduate ,no wonder they didn't train you well ,u lack knowledge
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Depriest2020: 9:52pm On Nov 14, 2023
pinkguy:
no graduate ,no wonder they didn't train you well ,u lack knowledge
Even my daughter graduated this year @ age 19, so if you think it's impossible to graduate and be married @ 22 then am sorry, you need more than help.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by Depriest2020: 9:56pm On Nov 14, 2023
pinkguy:
but you have Boko Haram and thousands of extremist
Non of my tribe is a member. We're just victims, same way you guys are victims of unknown gunmen and co.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by creativehubb: 11:33pm On Nov 14, 2023
Enjoy your abroad.
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by ahnie: 12:05am On Nov 15, 2023
musicwriter:


There's actually a documentary on the last part. A lady died in a Western country (I forgot the name) and it took some years before people knew. The air conditioner was still working over the years and somehow she didn't smell. She was still sitting on her couch watching TV when they opened the door. And the TV was still on over the years!!

But I prefer to live that way.
I kinda share in on this...

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Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by NNEVERAGAINN: 3:09am On Nov 15, 2023
doggedfighter:


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you dey like am? You don't want him to leave you here in Nigeria šŸ¤”
Re: A Nigerian Lady Talks Of Her Cultural Shock In France: by kapich: 6:53am On Nov 15, 2023
Darevofpeace:


"My supervisor is in his early 60s, so it was super hard for me to start calling him by his name every time. This man is old enough to be my grandfather and he wants me to call him his first name. Iā€™m getting more familiar with it, though.

One of the things I donā€™t like about being abroad is the fact that everybody minds their business. It is a double-edged sword. In Nigeria, you donā€™t like people being in your business, but sometimes, you actually
need it.

Try looking out for Nigerian community or group and join. I think they check on fellow Nigerians. Oyinbo life na mind your business, they don't care unless you are in a relationship with them. May the Lord be with you.

Last year, I was sick. I had an emergency operation so I couldnā€™t go to work for about a week. I was in my house and the next thing, I was in the hospital, so I couldnā€™t inform anybody. Not a single person called or texted me. Not one. Not even the HR person.

I left a cup of coffee on my desk the day before the incident and when I came back one week after, I met it right there with mold in it. Sometimes, it gets really annoying in Nigeria when people put their noses in your business, but Iā€™d rather have that than have nobody care at all.

I always like to say that if I died in my apartment, nobody would know until my body started smelling because even my rent would automatically pay itself from my account and the landlord wouldnā€™t care to check on me."

~ Source: Zikoko

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