Oba of Lagos

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Ileke-IdI:

Where do you see wrappers? I see a man wearing Yoruba owambe's attire. 
Obv this thing dey hurt you so o. LOL Kilode? wetin dey shele?

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Yoruba boys


So you see the similarities between the pixs and Yorubas?

I like the acculturation  tho. Even modern Igbo women are dressing in tune with the Yoruba attires.  And I love it!

More pix aka47man, I am loving what I am seeing

Ileke ma ja ile o, Ileke ma ja oko, Ileke o!  How many times did I call your name?


You are a troublemaker for real, smh.

lakal:

Isn't "yabasi" Igbo for onion?


The Yoruba and Igbo words for onion are derived from the Arabic "Al-basal."

But let's not digress, for real. I was really enjoying the thread, it seems like an eminent tradition, and one that is going strong in Onitsha.

Oh, one word aint acculturation, I'm talking changing peoples traditional attire, even their name sef.

Ileke-IdI:


Yoruba boys

So you see the similarities between the pixs and Yorubas?

Because Yoruba people invented white clothes.

Ileke-IdI:
I like the acculturation  tho. Even modern Igbo women are dressing in tune with the Yoruba attires.  And I love it!

Now she's coming for lace and ankara. Next it will be blouse and headtie, you know, all originated from Yoruba land.

Ileke-IdI:

Oba of Lagos

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Oba of London

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Borrow, borrow.

lakal:

Ileke ma ja ile o, Ileke ma ja oko, Ileke o!  How many times did I call your name?


You are a troublemaker for real, smh.


 

Is that so?

Where in Ekiti have you met passive women? And you call yourself an Ekiti man

Honestly, stop being quiet, I see a lot of Yoruba traditional clothes in these pictures. Which makes them lovely.




I prefer seeing feathers in the carnivals tho

ezeagu:

Oh, one word aint acculturation, I'm talking changing peoples traditional attire, even their name sef.

Because Yoruba people invented white clothes.

Now she's coming for lace and ankara. Next it will be blouse and headtie, you know, all originated from Yoruba land.

Oba of London

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Borrow, borrow.

O'boy, you are entering dangerous territory.  

Let's look at this festival.  The traditional clothing looks similar to other cultural groups' own, especially those of the Obi/Chiefs and a certain empire across the Niger. . .

"Onitsha Ado n'Idu."  I don't speak Igbo, so could you tell me what the "idu" in Onitsha means?  Because I believe I know, but I just want to be sure. . .

I will be back when more pics are posted jor

Or maybe it's because Odudwa was from Saudi Arabia?

Lakal,the sword didnt originate from benin. In Idemmili,there an ancient masqurade called "AGABA",the Agaba holds that sword whenever it goes to burial and his entourage carries it too. One more thing; that masqurade Agaba originated from war triumph of Umunri. So,get ur facts right before u post.
Who told you that "george" originated from delta ?
90% of those cultures and traditions of delta Igbo originated from Nri. Capish?

lakal:

O'boy, you are entering dangerous territory.  

Let's look at this festival.  The traditional clothing looks similar to other cultural groups' own, especially those of the Obi/Chiefs and a certain empire across the Niger. . .

"Onitsha Ado n'Idu."  I don't speak Igbo, so could you tell me what the "idu" in Onitsha means?  Because I believe I know, but I just want to be sure. . .

Bring up a picture of a Benin king and the only things that are similar with the chiefs (Ozo) and Obi are their corals and swords, everything else has a root in some Igbo culture, maybe except for some other minor details. Idu means Benin City, yes the Onicha clan migrated from Benin city. Yes they have cultural relics from Edo culture, such as some of their names and some other things. No, they are not acculturated clearly seeing from the fact that the Obi is supported by Ọzọ, an Nri establishment.

ezeagu:

Bring up a picture of a Benin king and the only things that are similar with the chiefs (Ozo) and Obi are their corals and swords, everything else has a root in some Igbo culture, maybe except for some other minor details. Idu means Benin City, yes the Onicha clan migrated from Benin city. Yes they have cultural relics from Edo culture, such as some of their names and some other things. No, they are not acculturated clearly seeing from the fact that the Obi is supported by Ọzọ, an Nri establishment.

Excuse my unfamiliarity with al aspects of Igbo culture, but where else (except other parts of Western Igboland) do Igbo chiefs and obis wear the "Puffy" (for lack of a better term) type of wrapper that Benin chiefs and Oba wear?

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Could you two plz go back to discussing Yoruba, it was more interesting then

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^^ Look at this Onitsha chief and tell me the attire of the Benin chief above is not [b]very [/b]similar.

lakal:

Excuse my unfamiliarity with al aspects of Igbo culture, but where else  (except other parts of Western Igboland) do Igbo chiefs and obis wear the "Puffy" (for lack of a better term) type of wrapper that Benin chiefs and Oba wear?

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I've never seen an Obi dressed like that, they usually dress in white or in generic clothing.

The most 'Benin-looking' king I've seen is that of Ogba (Eze Ogbah) or one of his chiefs.

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Apart from that all they wear from Benin is sometimes hat, the round coral, and the sword. Like here: http://www.ofaac.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=553

Asagba of Asaba:

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Obi of Onicha doesn't wear any of that apart from holding the sword.

lakal:

^^ Look at this Onitsha chief and tell me the attire of the Benin chief above is not [b]very [/b]similar.

If it was you would have backed it up with a picture.

lakal:

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^^ Look at this Onitsha chief and tell me the attire of the Benin chief above is not [b]very [/b]similar.

You're having a convo with an ediot.

I'm liking your post keep it up.

You might want to define "influence" to him so that he can catch up.

Ewu calling somebody and "ediot", because I embarrassed it? When they should have respected themselves and moved to another thread?

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Yoruba chiefs?

TBH I thought this was a bini king for a minute. Until I saw the caribbean carnival feathers on his head. The Benin empire really expanded.

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Sorry o, the guy I identified as a chief is the Obi of Onitsha.  No disrepect intended.  Another look at the Obi.

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Ondo-bini influence




Igbo Bini influence

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Somebody thought there was a Bini king parading at an Igbo festival. They only noticed the feathers later because they open the page from the bottom and scroll up, riiiiiiggghhhht. *hearbreak*

Yoruba's influence on Igbos

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ileke idi are you ok?

ak47mann:

ileke idi are you ok?

Post more pictures before I send you back to the kitchen.

^^ Ileke, the chief in red with the women next to him is a Benin chief, the Obasogie of Benin.  Just a point of correction.  I was merely comparing him to some of the attires at the Okpala festival.

Failure plus a certain poster are becoming inseparable.

Lakal,let me keep ur mind straight here because I am from Idemmili who are the closest neighbor to onitsha people and the rightful owner of the land onitsha people live in today. That cloth the oba benin and obi of onitsha was wearing originated from idemmili which was an Nri offshoot,so,
My friend its not benin own because  Nri existed about 1000yrs before the benin found there first ogiso.
Secondly, if you look at the way Igbos wear their beads and compare it to the benins you will see a big difference. I have explained the sword,so,read my three previous post.
The only similarity I found was the way onitsha and benin women wear their wrapper. southeastern, are usually conservative and don't expose their upper body.

lakal:

^^ Ileke, the chief in red with the women next to him is a Benin chief, the Obasogie of Benin.  Just a point of correction.  I was merely comparing him to some of the attires at the Okpala festival.

Okies, they look like anioma women, that's why I got confused there


An original beauty of Bini empire.

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An Igbo girl ---> Bini influence

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"Got confused" or 'are confused'. See what envy and follow-follow caused. Internet uselessness. Again: we should have been respectful and kept things to ourselves, now shouldn't we?

ezeagu:

"Got confused" or 'are confused'. See what envy and follow-follow caused. Internet uselessness.

Got confused is the properly term, dear. That's prolly why you dont understand what "influence" means

Lace ko cobra ni

Next time, wear an agbada and take a pix of yourself. bet you you'll atleast look decent a bit. Agbada is the way to go

I may not understand "influence", but I understand 'Islamic conquest' well.