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Re: The Fraud of Islam by ivoice247: 12:09am On Jan 04, 2012 |
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Re: The Fraud of Islam by Judek2(m): 4:08am On Jan 04, 2012 |
First,let me make this clear. Beware of religions that appear to be good Warning about Satan's ministers appearing to be righteous: 2Corinthians 11:14,15, "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." Beware of angels giving revelations contrary to God's Word: Another thing I'd like to point out is that the Mormon's "revelation" came from an angel (a fallen angel by the name of Moroni),and Islams "revelation" came from an angel (Gabriel-Gibril) and in Galatians 1:8 it directly warns us against an angel giving us a revelation that doesn't line up with God's Word, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." In the end days, there will be many who fall into deceiving religions: 1 Timothy 4:1, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." If you look up seducing in the Greek for that verse, it means deceiving. Deceiving means to appear to be true, yet it's false, or to give a false impression. This verse is talking about religions that appear to be right, but don't lead a person down the path to heaven. For example, Mormonism and Islam is the kind of religion they are talking about here, because it 'seems right' and yet it is so far off the track. Satan works in different ways in different religions. Since God has warned me earlier, I have nothing to fear about Islam because it made Gods warnings to be true. A good difference b/W Islam and Mormon is that they dont force Mormonism on you. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by LagosShia: 12:50pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
Judek2:amazing that you are quoting from the books of Paul,who claimed to have met Jesus in a vision and who christians view as "inspired" with contradictory accounts: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html#msg9875854 you got no evidence to support that Paul was not a liar.if at all,all evidence show that he was a false teacher who contradicted Jesus and taught confusion. what a fool you are!!! so you even believe that your mormon christian brothers got news from a "fallen angel".so how did you get to know that angel is "fallen"?did another angel informed you? and how are you sure the one that informed you is actually the "fallen one"? as for us in Islam,we dont believe in "fallen angels".the chosen servants of God do not fall!!!it is only the angels of Paul that fall!!! and is Gabriel too fallen? it is funny how christians believe everything that Jesus did not teach from trinity to "divine sonship of Jesus" and many other imaginations,yet they accuse muslims of following what "doesn't line up with God's word"!!! what sort of dreamers are you?
the man that wrote Timothy himself is a devil.so how do you think you are different from what he is deceiving you with? |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by brentkruge: 12:46am On Jan 05, 2012 |
“If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties”—Francis Bacon (1561-1626) Who is the author(s) of the Muslim Holy Book - the Quran? |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by LagosShia: 9:41am On Jan 05, 2012 |
brentkruge: you can open a thread on that or make a quick google search on nairaland you could find your answer in many threads already opened.you can see this one: "The Quran Or The Bible,which Is God's Word"? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-729581.0.html |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 2:06pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]Shine your eyes as u like that is not my business dear--- I'll only say the truth , i repeat nothing but the TRUTH . [/size] tiarabubu: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 2:20pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]Christianity is FALSEHOOD FAITH i must tell everyone that have eyes to read and have ears to hear! beware , they'll only end in deceiving u to accomplish that goal in your life and destiny . One great PROVE to know that Christianity is a falsehood faith is that , when u look around you'll find out that they're fighting other religions around the World claiming they are true while the other 1000's of religions are false . If they are true why can't it show in the lifestyles , and why can't the Christian GOD stop all the evils that have been happening ? as human being we should ask some serious questions that leads to the reality . You Judek i have seen u don't even have any idea about Christianity and you are here making all source of noise? common better go and think twice by using your real brain . You are here saying the religion of darkness is Islam? what about the Christianity that have been accusing every other belief ? whatever evil that is happening in the World today is because of u Christians. Like you've seen my path -- a royal to SATAN our true Creator , for too long Christianity and some other religions have accused SATAN for what he didn't know about -- our time is now and Satan is ready to pay all u false religions back! . CHRISTIANITY is in extreme darkness! [/size] Judek2: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 2:29pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]Thank u brother --- the Christians are just wasting their time on us .honestly i believe they'll regret of been a Christ worshiper ( s ) by the time we arrive fully and finish with them . Pagan-Naija we're one great family in the true part of life --- the end shall tell who's going to be the lead . Christians have been making noise , the 3rd World War is coming soon and religion is making it happened this time around ^^ My Theory is that Christianity is an evil, exploitative elaborate bait and switch fraudulent con game. My theory is that all Christians are not innocent for being fraudulent & exploitative system. [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
Ogaga4Luv: then join your Pagan and Muslim brothers in the final Jihad to exterminate Christians !!!! You make me laugh , my ribs ache, here is you thinking you make sound logical arguments, when the contrary is the case. Stop, think , listen and move in the direction. Jesus Christ the WAY , the TRUTH and the only way to LIFE. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:44pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
brother Ogaga, the very concept of their religion is wrong.they talk ablout things like Satan and defeating evil through jesus and light, etc., but they do not realise that in this world, there must be a balance between good and evil. the forces must be balanced. the ancient understood this and the old religions today still do. they dont know anything. they just want to cause the doom of us all. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:45pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
dont Talk nonsense frosbel. you and them Muslims are the same thing. 2 sides of the same coin. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 3:27pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]Frosbel u better check your speech i believe u suppose to know that Pagan and Muslim ( Islam ) are never the same family . Paganism is the ancient and the right path of life ^^ The word "pagan" (lowercase p) has traditionally been used, for centuries, to mean anyone who is not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim -- and, yes, the word "pagan" in this sense does include Satanists It also includes atheists. That's why u see (Ogaga4Luv) and other PAGAN , Atheist brothers and sisters on this forum are having everything in common -- hope that explanation help u frosbel ? [/size] frosbel: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 3:36pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]You are very right brother , the concept of their religion is very wrong! all they know about is to blame SATAN on everything bad . even the evil they've been planning to defeat they can't do that in generations to come because their so called GOD don't even have a single power to defeat it . God is Evil i believe that's why evil keep existing in the World . Whatever that is happening GOD should be the one to point stinky hands on . Talking about Jesus , light , holy spirit , heaven , hell and all that isn't the best option to justify their falsehood religion. Brother i feel the pains u feel too because of this so called set of people --- we'll put hands and stars together to STOP the many noise they've been making all these years . [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 3:44pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 3:47pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
you will also tend to notice that in the old religions, even the Gods sometimes become mischieveous or evil. with the devils and demons, at times they too become good. this because the forces in the cosmos must be balanced. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by ivoice247: 3:58pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
brentkruge: And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) the book (this Qur'an) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures) . So judge among them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you, ( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #48) "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the book (the Qur'an), explained in detail." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. ( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #114) Alif-Lam-Mim-Ra. These are the Verses of the book (the Qur'an), and that which has been revealed unto you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) from your Lord is the truth, but most men believe not. ( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #1) |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by ivoice247: 4:08pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: @PAGAN, you have no proof of what you're saying except to guess(conjecture). And Guessing can never be a substitute for the truth. As the quran has stated in many verses:- No doubt! Verily, to Allah belongs whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth. And those who worship and invoke others besides Allah, in fact they follow not (Allah's so-called) partners, they follow only a conjecture and they only invent lies. ( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #66) And most of them follow nothing but conjecture. Certainly, conjecture can be of no avail against the truth. Surely, Allah is All-Aware of what they do. ( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #36) Indeed they did disbelieve before (in this world), and they (used to) conjecture about the Unseen [i.e. the Hereafter, Hell, Paradise, Resurrection and the Promise of Allah (by saying) all that is untrue], from a far place. ( سورة سبأ , Saba, Chapter #34, Verse #53) And they say: "There is nothing but our life of this world, we die and we live and nothing destroys us except Ad-Dahr (time). And they have no knowledge of it: they only conjecture. ( سورة الجاثية , Al-Jathiya, Chapter #45, Verse #24) |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by ivoice247: 4:11pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
@PAGAN, read this verse from the quran that Allah(GOD) revealed about the worship of the pagans:- O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought. ( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #73) |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Nobody: 4:12pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
ivoice247: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 4:26pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]All people who grew up in a Christian society are inevitably going to be influenced by Christianity, in various different ways and to varying degrees, whether consciously or unconsciously That's u see people like frosbel and the other fooling themselves in a public forum like this one . And, as a barometer of how Christian-influenced a person is, Satanists tend to regard subtle, unconscious influences as more significant than such obvious things as the names of one's gods. Thus, just as Wiccans tend to perceive Satanists as "PAGANS," so too Satanists tend to perceive Wiccans as "SATANISTS ." The whole "more non-Christian than thou" game, whether played by Satanists or by Pagans, is an exercise in subjectivity. Different aspects of Christianity are significant to different people I MEAN the confused set of people ! Are Satanists "Pagan" in the sense of being naturally a part of the "Pagan community"? Some of us are, but many of us probably are not. Even if there weren't so much Pagan hostility toward Satanists, many Satanists still would probably not fit in very well with the Pagan community. which espouses some specific beliefs and values that are different from the beliefs and values espoused by most Satanists (though there is more overlap than most Pagans are willing to acknowledge). For example, many Satanists don't revere "Nature" in quite the same way that many Pagans do. There do exist quite a few Satanists who do revere "Nature", but who think of "Nature" in harsher terms than most Pagans do. Also, many Satanists don't find the typical Pagan public ritual to be very congenial but i do because i cast spells and gone so deep in the spiritual Satanism which is original Paganism [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:31pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
yes true. The Pagans are more towards linking the material word to the spirtual one. we combine science with religion, astrology with astronomy, soul with nature. and what about the atheists i dont think they can be classified as Pagans because they only stick to the material world and disregard spirituality. they go by the science book. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by ignis: 4:42pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
Tell them the truth. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 4:54pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]You've spoken well brother . The only thing which combines the Atheist and Pagan together is science . their disregard to spiritual growth or powers doesn't mean they're not better than the so called other religions ( I won't start mentioning names ) that have kicked against the true and ancient path of life ( Paganism ) . [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:59pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
atheists are harmless, for now. they dont go around spreading false hope and rumours, and they base themselves on science and fact when it comes to logic. i just hope that we dont see another prophet among them in the near future who gos around to spread some kind of jihad against all non-atheists. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 5:06pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
[size=13pt]You are right Pagan--Naija my dear brother in the spiritual path . The atheist are harmless for now . one of there favorite activities is to preach against the GOD that is causing Confusion in the World today , and also to work and mock that dead JESUS that was nailed on wood . honestly they have no problem and even seen we gonna win them over --- the thing I've loved so much in their life is to think big , enjoy life and religion -free people . [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:26pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
yes they are free people. I used to like that thought in the past. it reflected some notions of my own self and views. but then I realised. you have heard the saying: Too much of anything is not good. just as you get diabetes if you eat too much sugars or your crops die if you add a lot of fertilizer, in the same way excess free-will is not good. why do you think there is a complete break down of moral values and culture in the west because there is no fear of the supernatural forces. Brother Ogaga, love is not just about enjoyment. there is also work and duty towards society. there is happiness in that too. |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 6:41pm On Jan 07, 2012 |
[size=13pt]I feel u dear brother. . . Immediately any atheist believe in GOD the imaginary or forces of NATURE which is real that would never consider as Atheist anymore . The reason why they remain atheist is to take the responsibility of their selfish path so serious going against all kind of RELIGIOUS believes . I wish they could settle down and learn the powers that really exist in NATURE the super force . . . well , not all the atheist i know that do not accept or known that there's a great powers and supernatural forces do exist for real only that , one of their lifestyle is to ignore religion and faces like the way they see's it . [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:57pm On Jan 07, 2012 |
yes people learn. Brother Ogaga, where are you from?? |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by brentkruge: 9:26pm On Jan 07, 2012 |
Ogaga4Luv: its interesting, your conclusion. its surely not Christians that slaughtered 20 innocent people in Mubi, Adamawa yesterday. It wasn't Christians that mowed down 8 people in a Church in Gombe the day before yesterday. It wasnt Christians that have blasted another 8 people in Yola Adamawa a few hours ago. I have never heard Christians invading a Mosque and mowing down people to death. Whats more, the assailants were chanting GOD IS GREAT! What kind of GREAT god is do weak that mortals will fight to kill for him and in his name. Who, if you are capable of ANY sound moral judgement, is the evil one then. I |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by brentkruge: 12:10am On Jan 08, 2012 |
Among the Koranic writers were some nominal Christians who gave the Koran its sense of wrapped history Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814: Narrated Anas: There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say:[b] "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." He obviously couldnt reconcile and stomach what he was hearing. Later Muslim invented the story that the earth rejected his body after death. The only person the earth "dealt" with so ie God himself handled it. The rest of course Mohammed had killed! Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 605: Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic. Waraqa asked, "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."[/b] Yet Mohammed later commanded his followers to kill the very people he relied on to authenticate his messages, the people he claimed corrupted the gospel. If poor Waraqa had known better, he would have instantly recognized the warning in the gospel that angels of darkness shall masquerade as angels of light and led astray many. Have you ever wondered where those poor copies of the old testament found themselves in the Koran? Now you know! |
Re: The Fraud of Islam by Ogaga4Luv(m): 12:33am On Jan 08, 2012 |
[size=13pt]honestly people really need to learn and grow spiritually for their own good . The spiritual controls the physical , though so many doesn't know the everything that happening in the physical have already been programmed spiritually . Brother , I'm a Nigerian -though mixed nationality [/size] PAGAN 9JA: |
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