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Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 7:17pm On Jan 07, 2012
Islam Koran 666

THE FALSE PROPHET - DEN FALSKE PROFETEN - EL FALSO PROFITA - LE FAUX PROPHETE - DER FALSCHE PROPHET -
ISLAM REVIEWED  - TENTANG ISLAM - EN REVURDERING AV ISLAM - UNA REVISION DEL ISLAM - ISLAM DI AKHIR JAMAN -

YouTube of this subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9kvfhMWmo

The following links to Islamic sites connect the Quran and it's Messenger, to the number 666.  Here's an example - and another.  Or try a Search - quran 666 or kuran 666.


On the Zola Levitt program, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist now Christian evangelist, said that when he saw the Greek symbol that is translated in the Bible as 666, he immediately read it as the Arabic character “Bismillah” (some spell Bismilla) which means "in the name of Allah."

Here's a seven minute video of Walid Shoebat on 666 at a different venue:

Below (left) are photos of Greek symbols translated in the Bible as 666, from Free Jesus.net:  The gold symbol (bottom and right) is Arabic for "Allah" when turned and mirrored.  Additionally, crossed swords are a symbol for Islam.  So in 666 we may find both "Islam" and "Allah".



If Shoebat's account seems a stretch, even though Arabic was his first language and Islam the religion he was indoctrinated into, consider how this Arabic character is stylized into many different artistic forms.  Consider also how some look for this character in trees, clouds and such, as this search link attests - even in a fish!

For English speaking people on whom the above may be a little lost:



YouTube from another author - note the feedback from former Muslims.  

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There are 6,666 verses in the Koran.  There is at least one sect of Islam (Bahattin Uzunkaya) that considers the number 666 as well as the number 19, to demonstrate the perfection of the Quran and the proof that Mohammed is the prophet of Allah.

In the Muslim's words:  

"The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.
However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666."

"The truth is that This Quran is the 666 , The Book from The Lord of the Universe."

"The First Sura in the Quran, 666, is Praise. This sura is the gift of GOD to us to establish Contact with Him through our daily Contact Prayers. "

"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

This one may make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.

You can search - quran 666 - or try - sura 1 to sura 36 is 666 - How about an Islamic greeting card that has 666 displayed 666 times?

Here is an interesting link.

This 666 connection is, however, just one component of Bible prophecy pointing to the Middle Eastern Islamic empire as being, geographically, the leopard-bear-lion beast of Revelation 13.  The seat of Islam today occupies the same geographical region as the seats of Daniel's successive lion, bear, and leopard kingdom "beasts".

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: [Islamic Empire] for it is the number of a man; [the prophet Mohammed] and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. [666]

", the number of the beast for it is the number of a man , "
"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

 Is this Islamic 666 "miracle" then a warning from God to Christians, Jews, and Muslims, as yet another fulfillment of the related prophecy in the Book of Revelation, now that we find ourselves in this "time of the end"?i

Following is a brief YouTube related to this subject:



Bible: Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Koran (Sura 2:223) your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.

Bible: Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Koran (Sura 8:12) I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them  

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (Surah 9.30)



2 Thessalonians 2:6   And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting
consolation and good hope through grace, 17  Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Visit link for more, http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_koran_666.htm

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Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 7:33pm On Jan 07, 2012
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Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 7:45pm On Jan 07, 2012
i dont know why a fool would use the "666" christian fairytale to judge muslims with it.

here is what "666" stands for:


The Number of the Beast (Greek: Άριθμὸν τοῦ θηρίου, Arithmon tou Thēriou) is a term in the Book of Revelation, of the New Testament, that is associated with the first Beast of Revelation chapter 13, the Beast of the sea.[1] In most manuscripts of the New Testament and in English translations of the Bible, the number of the Beast is 666. In critical editions of the Greek text, such as the Novum Testamentum Graece, it is noted that 616 is a variant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson :"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict" grin grin grin grin grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism
Re: Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 10:50pm On Jan 08, 2012
LagosShia:

i dont know why a fool would use the "666" christian fairytale to judge muslims with it.

here is what "666" stands for:

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? [b][/b]let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson [b]:"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict" grin grin grin grin grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism

Mind you, ur prophet warned you to respect the scriptures, he never said they were tails, but he said they were divine from Allah. So u must be disobeying Muhammed with ur insults to the bible grin
I will join u soon, my HD got broken down, i hate phone typing.
See ur Quran revealing for the bible,

"Say (o Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord" (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 136).

"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it is in the Torah" (Surah 5, Al-Ma'idah, The Table Spread: 44, 46).

"Lo! We inspire thee as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms" (Surah 4, Al-Nisa, Women: 163).
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Nobody: 11:55pm On Jan 08, 2012
LagosShia:

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict" grin grin grin grin grin
grin
Revelations
[b]12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 
12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 
12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 
12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 
12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.  [/b]

Bad crack will cause you to hallucinate and see "Revelations"

Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 12:04pm On Jan 09, 2012
plappville:

Mind you, your prophet warned you to respect the scriptures, he never said they were tails, but he said they were divine from Allah. So u must be disobeying Muhammed with your insults to the bible grin
I will join u soon, my HD got broken down, i hate phone typing.
See your Quran revealing for the bible,
there is no where in the Quran we are told that the bible is a revealed book by Allah.


"Say (o Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord" (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 136).
that which the prophets received! not the bible compiled by fallible men and councils that voted on what to add and what to remove.which book to accept as "inspired" and which to reject!


"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it is in the Torah" (Surah 5, Al-Ma'idah, The Table Spread: 44, 46).
is bible and torah the same?


"Lo! We inspire thee as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms" (Surah 4, Al-Nisa, Women: 163).

and what a shame that what is recorded of the revelations given by God are recorded with what is not revealed by God,with immorality,contradictions and tales!!!
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jan 09, 2012
LagosShia:

there is no where in the Quran we are told that the bible is a revealed book by Allah.
that which the prophets received! not the bible compiled by fallible men and councils that voted on what to add and what to remove.which book to accept as "inspired" and which to reject!
is bible and torah the same?

and what a shame that what is recorded of the revelations given by God are recorded with what is not revealed by God,with immorality,contradictions and tales!!!

hahaha

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


Islam and contradiction, when will it end undecided undecided
Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 3:15pm On Jan 09, 2012
frosbel:

hahaha

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


Islam and contradiction, when will it end undecided undecided

please point out the contradiction.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 4:41pm On Jan 09, 2012

This 666 connection is, however, just one component of Bible prophecy pointing to the Middle Eastern Islamic empire as being, geographically, the leopard-bear- lion beast of Revelation 13. The seat of Islam today occupies the same geographical region as the seats of Daniel's successive lion, bear, and leopard kingdom "beasts".

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: [Islamic Empire] for it is the number of a man; [the prophet Mohammed] and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. [666]

", the number of the beast for it is the number of a man , " "GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

There is no greater anti-Christ than Mohammad.
Thank God the Bible warned us before hand.

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Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 8:25pm On Jan 09, 2012
Judek2:

There is no greater anti-Christ than Mohammad.
Thank God the Bible warned us before hand.

where?
Re: Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 4:59pm On Jan 10, 2012
LagosShia:

please point out the contradiction.

@Frosbel had done that, didn't you see it urself? u were confuesd and end up in saying otherwise.

LagosShia:


from @plappville: Mind you, your prophet warned you to respect the scriptures, he never said they were tails, but he said they were divine from Allah. So u must be disobeying Muhammed with your insults to the bible Grin
I will join u soon, my HD got broken down, i hate phone typing.
See your Quran revealing for the bible,


Respons from @LagosShia: there is no where in the Quran we are told that the bible is a revealed book by Allah.

From @plappville: "Say (o Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord" (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 136).

from @lagosShia:
that which the prophets received! not the bible compiled by fallible men and councils that voted on what to add and what to remove.which book to accept as "inspired" and which to reject!


"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it is in the Torah" (Surah 5, Al-Ma'idah, The Table Spread: 44, 46).

From @lagosShiua: is bible and torah the same?

From @plappville: "Lo! We inspire thee as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms" (Surah 4, Al-Nisa, Women: 163).

From @lagosShia: and what a shame that what is recorded of the revelations given by God are recorded with what is not revealed by God,with immorality,contradictions and tales!!!
Ve you not agreed with the above that the bible is given by God? pretend in concluding that it has some undivine words, So how can @LagosShia and the entire Muslims know that which is divine and that which is not divine in the bible? confussion in the air!
Re: Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 5:02pm On Jan 10, 2012
Judek2:

There is no greater anti-Christ than Mohammad.
Thank God the Bible warned us before hand.

Yes, the root of Islam correspond to what the Revelation of Christ discribed him.

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Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 5:23pm On Jan 10, 2012
LagosShia:

where?

Below,on that Revelation. And if you will read this.

Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Jude 1:4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

I John 4:1-3 also mentions antichrist: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. ”

Literally, an antichrist is a man who is against Christ, that is, against the one and only Christ of God, Jesus. This name sets forth the essence of Antichrist: he is opposed to Christ. He is against Christ personally; he is against Christ’s body, the church; he is against Christ’s Word, Holy Scripture.
But Christ is the revelation and servant of God. The hostility of Antichrist to Christ is, therefore, ultimately enmity against God. He is anti-God. Although he leaves the impression with people that he is motivated by love for the world, by humanitarianism, and although his deeds, superficially considered, seem to support this, it is not love that really moves him, but hatred. The one, main, driving force in all his being and activity is opposition to Christ as God’s Man in the world, hatred for Jesus as God in the flesh. In his opposition, he usurps Jesus’ place and presents himself as the legitimate Christ.

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Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 5:44pm On Jan 10, 2012
plappville:

Ve you not agreed with the above that the bible is given by God? pretend in concluding that it has some undivine words, So how can @LagosShia and the entire Muslims know that which is divine and that which is not divine in the bible? confussion in the air!

Hohohoho
They believe on their hallucination which may point to Mohammad. One verse is currupt and the other is not.

They believe this: not currupt
john:14:16
I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter,that he may abide with you forever.

but Mohammad is dead and rotten tongue

But this is corrupt:
vs 26 of the same chapter.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,whom the Father will send in my name,he shall teach you all things,and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Unfortunately,he didnt teach them,but confused them. grin
Re: Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 10:32pm On Jan 10, 2012
Even thier ignorance blinded them in (John14:16,) "that he may abide with you forever" how did Muhammed abide in us, when he couldnt dictate a poison that sent him to the younder? The comforter is to abide so is a continuous assistant to us. Since Muhamed died, nothing gud was known of him. Wake up ye Muslims!
Re: Islam Quran 666! by plappville(f): 10:35pm On Jan 10, 2012
Judek2smiley Literally, an antichrist is a man who is against Christ, that is, against the one and only Christ of God, Jesus. This name sets forth the essence of Antichrist: he is opposed to Christ. He is against Christ personally; he is against Christ’s body, the church; he is against Christ’s Word, Holy Scripture.
But Christ is the revelation and servant of God. The hostility of Antichrist to Christ is, therefore, ultimately enmity against God. He is anti-God. Although he leaves the impression with people that he is motivated by love for the world, by humanitarianism, and although his deeds, superficially considered, seem to support this, it is not love that really moves him, but hatred. The one, main, driving force in all his being and activity is opposition to Christ as God’s Man in the world, hatred for Jesus as God in the flesh. In his opposition, he usurps Jesus’ place and presents himself as the legitimate Christ.

U finish definition for @lagosShia here grin
Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 11:29pm On Jan 10, 2012
plappville:

Even thier ignorance blinded them in (John14:16,) "that he may abide with you forever" how did Muhammed abide in us, when he couldnt dictate a poison that sent him to the younder? The comforter is to abide so is a continuous assistant to us. Since Muhamed died, nothing gud was known of him. Wake up ye Muslims!

in christianity,each denomination have a leader that rivals the authority and leadership of Jesus (as).each also have added his own teachings and doctrines starting with Paul who is renowned as the "father of christianity".hence the different and conflciting doctrines of christianity in each and every sect or denomination.

in Islam,Muhammad's (sa) teaching have abide with us forever.every muslim sect or denomination have the same Quran.till the judgement day and the end of this world,it is One Quran that all muslims have.that will abide forever.that is indeed the spirit of truth.

plappville:

@Frosbel had done that, didn't you see it urself? u were confuesd and end up in saying otherwise.
show me where.i still have not seen where Muhammad (sa) in your bible is called "the anti-christ" when someone like Paul easily fits that title.


Ve you not agreed with the above that the bible is given by God? pretend in concluding that it has some undivine words, So how can @LagosShia and the entire Muslims know that which is divine and that which is not divine in the bible? confussion in the air!

the Quran is the yardstick.just like we know which hadith is acceptable and which is not.anything or any word that contradicts the Quran is thrown to the rubbish can.besides,do you really think we need the bible if not for talking to your empty heads?
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 7:13am On Jan 20, 2012
LagosShia:

in christianity,each denomination have a leader that rivals the authority and leadership of Jesus (as).each also have added his own teachings and doctrines starting with Paul who is renowned as the "father of christianity".hence the different and conflciting doctrines of christianity in each and every sect or denomination.

Many people preach the Gosple in Christianity because that was how Jesus wanted it, and they are all centered on one teaching, Jesus and salvation which is to be spread in peace and subjected to percecution like Paul and the disciples were.

Muslims can only spread their false religion by force and sword as Mohammad did,because falseness has nothing good and truthful to influence people so it cant be inspiring but forced.


in Islam,Muhammad's (sa) teaching have abide with us forever.every muslim sect or denomination have the same Quran.till the judgement day and the end of this world,it is One Quran that all muslims have.that will abide forever.that is indeed the spirit of truth.



So,Mohammad is no longer the Spirit of Truth but his teachings,which is the Koran.
So now tell me how a book has become a SPIRIT, and has the attributes of a being, HE.

Since your koran is the Spirit of truth, it has deviated to Spirit of lies cos it commands you to lie when its necessary for some material gains.

Hohohoho. Koran is now the Spirit of truth grin grin


show me where.i still have not seen where Muhammad (sa) in your bible is called "the anti-christ" when someone like Paul easily fits that title.

Since Islam knows nothing about Prophecies,only сock and bull tales to be an alleged prophecy, I dont have to start repeating myself to a dumb fellow.
I have explained to you everything you need to know about the "Anti Christ" belo,so you can use your tongue to count your teeth.


the Quran is the yardstick.just like we know which hadith is acceptable and which is not.anything or any word that contradicts the Quran is thrown to the rubbish can.

You mean the ones burnt by Dan Fodio?
Anyway, falseness cant be hidden. Your Koran is a contradiction itself,and you fellas are sweating hard to wipe ya aass.
You should throw the whole Koran into a rubbish can.


besides,do you really think we need the bible if not for talking to your empty heads?

Hahahahaha, you sounds like a kid. And you do most of the time. .
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 9:24am On Jan 20, 2012
@Lagosshia, you guys often go on and on about Apostle Paul being anti-christ. The question is, did Paul preach anything different? Paul message was the gospel of Christ. In Philippians 3:10, he said "that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His suffering being conformable unto death.

How can such a person be an antichrist?
Re: Islam Quran 666! by LagosShia: 9:35am On Jan 20, 2012
proo212:

@Lagosshia, you guys often go on and on about Apostle Paul being anti-christ. The question is, did Paul preach anything different? Paul message was the gospel of Christ. In Philippians 3:10, he said "that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His suffering being conformable unto death.

How can such a person be an antichrist?

"Bible Verses Of How Paul Contradicted Jesus (as)"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820209.0.html

"Paul Versus The Disciples"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-846385.0.html

"Pious Fraud: Adhoc Bible forgery - Paul v.s. Deuteronomy"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html#msg9875785

"Was Paul Inspired"?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html#msg9875854

see also in his own words:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html#msg9876268
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 9:42am On Jan 20, 2012
What you don't get is that nobody clicks on these links. It's like you have stored somewhere ready for any new post.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by vedaxcool(m): 11:10am On Jan 20, 2012
plappville:

Even thier ignorance blinded them in (John14:16,) "that he may abide with you forever" how did Muhammed abide in us, when he couldnt dictate a poison that sent him to the younder? The comforter is to abide so is a continuous assistant to us. Since Muhamed died, nothing gud was known of him. Wake up ye Muslims!

Atleast use some common-sense, to ask why Jesus said he had to leave before the comforter would come, and the Muhammad pbuh teachings abides forever, you are such a joke, Jesus could not save himself from death, first he prayed, then he cried, then he asked for swords, then he told his diciples to watch, then his diciples slept, then he ws arrested, indicating he could even save himself from arrest, then he was judged, then he was beaten black and brown, then he was given a cross to carry, then he was made to accuse God of forsaking him, I say indeed one must agree with: this post indeed:

LagosShia:

i dont know why a fool would use the "666" christian fairytale to judge muslims with it.

here is what "666" stands for:

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson :"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict" grin grin grin grin grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism

truly this made me grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

proo212:

What you don't get is that nobody clicks on these links. It's like you have stored somewhere ready for any new post.

We know people like you are immune to reasoning to say the very the honest truth!
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Hutchie(m): 11:28am On Jan 20, 2012
Many in Christendom have drawn the conclusion that Islam or the Quran is the 666. But this does not stand up to Biblical test (and I am not here to defend Islam either). One of the things I have come to learn is that it is anti-Islam for a man to claim to be God - this is perhaps one of the reasons why they deny the Sonship of Jesus claiming instead that He is merely a prophet. But putting that aside lets look at what 2 Thess 4 says:

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

What is the temple of God? Is it a future rebuilt Jewish temple? or is it the New Testament church?

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (1 Cor 3:16, see also 2 Cor 6:16).

The temple of God is the new church so the man of sin will sit in the loftiest position in the church declaring himself to be God. How could a muslim accomplish this? The muslims may be anti-christ in a sense but John defines for us who the anti-christs are:

18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1 John 2)

They went out from the church but they were not really of the church.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 11:40am On Jan 20, 2012
Atleast use some common-sense, to ask why Jesus said he had to leave before the comforter would come, and the Muhammad pbuh teachings abides forever, you are such a joke, Jesus could not save himself from death, first he prayed, then he cried, then he asked for swords, then he told his diciples to watch, then his diciples slept, then he ws arrested, indicating he could even save himself from arrest, then he was judged, then he was beaten black and brown, then he was given a cross to carry, then he was made to accuse God of forsaking him, I say indeed one must agree with: this post indeed:

The issue with your drivel is that if these things that happened to Jesus were not prophesied by Him and the prophets of old, I just might want to take you seriously. What part of prophecy do you not understand? All of these were prophesied and they happened!

Do you know another prophecy in the Bible? May 14 1948! (Ezekiel 37:21, Jeremiah 16:14-15, Isaiah 11:12). Look at the world map before and after
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 11:58am On Jan 20, 2012
@Hutchie, you failed to read the book of 1 John 2 all the way to the end of the context. Verse 22 said and I quote

22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

You see all the false religions that deny the Son, can and are classified as antichrist. I am sure you follow this board properly and you can see what our brothers reveal from their book.


Many in Christendom have drawn the conclusion that Islam or the Quran is the 666. But this does not stand up to Biblical test (and I am not here to defend Islam either). One of the things I have come to learn is that it is anti-Islam for a man to claim to be God - this is perhaps one of the reasons why they deny the Sonship of Jesus claiming instead that He is merely a prophet. But putting that aside lets look at what 2 Thess 4 says:

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The above passage you quoted sums it up exactly. Who is the person that exalts himself above God, that demanded for Jesus Christ to worship him, that always says he is God but in actual fact he is not?
Re: Islam Quran 666! by vedaxcool(m): 12:00pm On Jan 20, 2012
proo212:

The issue with your drivel is that if these things that happened to Jesus were not prophesied by Him and the prophets of old, I just might want to take you seriously. What part of prophecy do you not understand? All of these were prophesied and they happened!

Do you know another prophecy in the Bible? May 14 1948! (Ezekiel 37:21, Jeremiah 16:14-15, Isaiah 11:12). Look at the world map before and after

The prophecy said for the comforter to come, he - Jesus would have to leave, indicating clearly the comforter was human, not the Holy ghost who visited Jesus severally!  
But we muslims are well aware of your preference in following Paul rather than Jesus! smh
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 12:15pm On Jan 20, 2012
But is mohammed a spirit though that would be with us forever? Mohammed died 632 AD. One of your brothers could not defend it and called the quran. Which should i believe?
Re: Islam Quran 666! by olasesi(m): 12:35pm On Jan 20, 2012
How funny
THE QURAN IS FALSE because IT HAS LINKS WITH 666
and what is 666?
A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THE BEAST ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE
conclusively
THE QURAN IS FALSE BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS RIGHT
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Hutchie(m): 1:48pm On Jan 20, 2012
Proo212,

If you read my post again you will note where I said the muslims are anti-christ in a sense. But I was attempting to show that the anti-christ that John was talking about came out of the Christian faith though they were not really of the faith.

Strong's Concordance says this of the greek word antichristos: "antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah"

So the anti-christ is an enemy of Christ but also puts himself in place of Christ.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jan 20, 2012
The is no singular anti-Christ as mentioned in the bible. There are anti-Christs.

There is also no single Man of sin but Mankind in general. Mankind will become more lawless and totally out of order before the coming of Christ.

We see it in the church, in society and in personal homes.

Let us be clear, Islam represents some kind of beast as prophesied in the bible, but it does not on it's own represent number 666.

666 is the number of rebellious man. The mark of sin.

The children of God have the mark/seal of God on their foreheads.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by proo212(m): 2:08pm On Jan 20, 2012
Hutchie forgive me not understanding your post properly but I also need to add that. Yes antichrist is enemy of Christ or puts himself above Christ. You are aware that in Islam, Jesus Christ is not God or Son of God but a mere prophet. Mohammed was more important than Jesus, infact he is described as the seal of the prophets, a mercy to mankind. All of these are not lies against Islam.
Re: Islam Quran 666! by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jan 20, 2012
proo212:

Hutchie forgive me not understanding your post properly but I also need to add that. Yes antichrist is enemy of Christ or puts himself above Christ. You are aware that in Islam, Jesus Christ is not God or Son of God but a mere prophet. Mohammed was more important than Jesus, infact he is described as the seal of the prophets, a mercy to mankind. All of these are not lies against Islam.

But you also have to be aware that Orthodox Jews and religious Jews are more anti-Christ than Islam.

Simply because they do not attach any importance to the person of Christ and in their Talmud often employ the use of very derogatory terminology to describe him.

So even though ISLAM is anti-Christ in terms of the concept of Messiah, they still respect and revere him. Orthodox Jews on the other hand despise him.

My fear for the church is the unholy alliance with these sects led and orchestrated by John Hagee.

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