Olamusli:

@jmaine try to understand dis the strike isn't aboout NLC/TUC and it is not only about subsidy, We are protesting about corruption and the insensitive nature of Government. If anything Jonathan shot himself in the foot on dis one cause he has opened peoples eyes to the inapprpriation going on in this Govt. As a whole! The clamour isn't just about subsidy removal, its about corruption, wasteful spending of the govt

Also the protest this time around is not the "NLC RITUAL" called industrial strike action; its people showing there grieviances, and pls tell me If the strike doesn't hold and people go about their usual activities; how do you think govt will understand people's grieviances!!! Especially in this dictatorship in which it is apparent that Jona is a cold hearted shoesless SOB and isn't interested in seeing the people's opinion let alone do something about it

Now with that said, I have nothing against Iweala I mean she was my hero alongside Dora until they both messed up big time.

Reason for Iweala mess up was because she knows that the average person lives below 2 dollars a day thus we can say about 300 naira and she allow the fuel to increase to 141 naira per liter which is half of the daily life hood of a man

As far as me dey concerned, those two ladies no fail me in anyway . . and who told you the average Nigerian lives on 300 naira a day. how much is the average meal in Nigeria using Lagos as a model = N150:00 x 3 = N450 . .transport nko = 100 and after beer period of at least 1 bottle = 200 = roughly N 800 . . .we all know we eat more than N450 food and pay more than N100 Tfare money , we also take at least 2 bottles for starters  , and some other frivolities . . so that 2 dollars logic is an outdated ploy to make us look pitiful . . .

If that is so, then I am sure you would agree with me that people have the right to be angry, protesting and asking questions that the FG has not answered which are.

1. You talk about increase in crude oil prices in the world but how is that meant to affect the our pump price if we drill our oil and refine it in Nigeria.

During the last government of OBJ, Iweala made us pay 16 billion dollars claiming that we would use it for road etc like she is doing now. Why ? was she not in OBJ era ? has she not paid the money off now so what other thing does she need to deliever her promise in 2005.

Okonjo Iweala aided the payment as the finance minister who called the shotz in all monetary affairs in the country . .she made that promise on the premiss of being in charge of the budgetary planning and implementation . . But what happened . .the treacherous and canny OBJ decided to play fast on her by diluting her stern grip on the monetary port folios of the nation . .

And as an honourable Nigerian who did not want a tarnished image . . she rescinded  . .and that was around June, 2006 . .Just a year after payment of the debts . .are we to blame her for Obasanjo tactical move to take her out of the mainstream . .or for her integrity to rescind when it was obvious she was being restricted tactically

And do not forget, she initiated the process of publishing monthly revenue allocation to states and L.G for transparency purpose, which had the rouge governors like Ibori complaining about a deliberate attempt by the ministry to pitch them against the people  . . Ole !!

The woman has ideas my brother and if given the opportunities would deliver

Yaradua died in 2010 and the subsidy was about 600 billion, Now FG is telling us that immediately Jonthan got in, it jumped up to 1.3-1.6 trillion (since the figures are not consistent). They told us during the channels debate that they have been paying it as if this admin started since 2005 or so.

The Federal Government is subsidising a litre of premium motor spirit (petrol) with N91, indicating a rise of N24.68 or 27.1 per cent over the N66.32 spent last February.

Over N650 billion, it was learnt, was spent by the Federal Government last year on fuel subsidy. This figure is expected to increase this year, following the rise in the price of crude oil in the international market where a barrel costs $112.

The Federal Government spent over N600billion on fuel subsidy in 2009 and over N1.2trillion between 2006 and 2008.

The current open market price of petrol per litre is N156; the pump price remains N65.


An industry operator, who pleaded not to be named, said the landing cost of petrol is N143 per litre. The remaining N13 per litre is the margin shared among the stakeholders, including retailers, transporters and dealers in the distribution chain. There is also bridging and administration fee.

[size=14pt]With the pump price at N65 per litre, this means that the government pays N91 for every litre of petrol sold at the filling stations.[/size] The cash is drawn from the Petroleum Support Fund (PSF), bringing the total cost of a litre to N156.

The source attributed the high landing cost to sustained increase in price of crude in the international market, following the crisis in oil producing North Africa and Middle East countries.

The source said that in January, the Petroleum Products Pricing Regulatory Authority (PPPRA) template showed that the landing cost of petrol was N114.86 per litre with a margin of N13.20, bringing the open market price to N128.06. This indicates a subsidy of N63.06 per litre.

Last February, the landing cost of PMS rose to N118.12 per litre, with a distribution margin of N13.20, which brings the open market price to N131.32 per litre, reflecting a subsidy of N66.32 per litre.

The increase in the price cannot and I repeat cannot be = inflation and increase in population. No way there have to be some explaination. I mean we are talking about an increase by 700 billion to 1 trillion within 2 months of yaradua's and jonthan admin. Something is not right.

2 months Alj Harem  . . .Yar Adua died may 2010 ( so we were told  ) . .and we are talking about december 2011 . . .over a year bro . . and over those years , you would agree with me that in the government zeal to avoid fuel scarcity . .they encouraged more imports witch prolly fuelled the desires of corrupt collaborators to increase their smuggling activities and also to inflate imported figures to swindle the FG . .though a little vigilance on the part of the FG could have stemmed this tide . .nevertheless, when the next man is corrupt, policing an obvious loop hole in subsidy payment is an uphill task . . .

Beaf and FG are arguing about forcing the private companies to build refineries. Yes good Idea because by deregualtion they would be urge to build their own refinery right. Now it also exposes them to some few things

Now if the government remove subsidy without refinaries, he can simply export it and tell the government the price which he used to pay the foreign refinarires and the GOVERNMENT (NNPC) HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY HIM

Why would the FG pay them when subsidy has been removed and the market deregulated  . .don't really get that part .

NNPC has no capacity to store Petrol for more then 2 weeks and that is why we use to have fuel scarcity until the PRIVATELY OWN RESERVOIR CAME INTO BEING. thus they cheat the FG by lying to them and store petrol at about 3 Naira for a liter.

Another example of the cheating

if the FG stores 1 billion barrels of petrol with them, after 1 year they would tell the FG that the remaining petrol is 700 million barrels thus stealling 300 million which they would sell in the black market but the FG has already paid them for 1 BILLION barrels.

Now you see that the removal has not stopped ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO ENRICH THEM MORE AND GIVE THEM MORE POWER OVER OUR ECONOMY.

THEY CAN EVEN FORM A COOPERATION AND DICTATE TO THE FG HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO BE SELLING IT IN THEIR STATIONS AND THE FG HAS TO PAY FOR IT SINCE THEY CANNOT REFINE THEIR OWN OIL.

THE FG BUILDING A REFINARY WOULD BE A VERY GOOD SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IN THE OIL INDUSTRY.

THUS THEY CAN REGULATE THEIR OWN PRODUCTION AND CAPITAL.


As you see we are back to the beginning.

Again this would suffice : Why would the FG pay them when subsidy has been removed and the market deregulated  . .they would simply sell whatever they have, the government has no interest in their personnel capacity  . .they have no option than to sell to make profits . . via competition . .though the option of them forming a cartelto dictates prizing is present . .

The PPRA should be strengten to curtail such antecedents . .

now that the prices are deregulated and if the cost of production of petrol (PMS) is whatever and the oil company tells the FG 200 naira per liter. How much would NNPC sell it for ? 200 naira as well remember they have no storage capacity and 30% capacity in the refinery

The independent marketers can never inflate their prize of importation cos the FG  (NNPC) for now is also in the business of importation . .
The PPRA is saddled with the responsibility of checking such practices if adequately strengthened    . .

So the scenario you played is quite low if the probability is to considered . . .but it all depends on the efficiency of the PPRA and that we can't really determine if it's going to be + ve or - ve .

Our continous activism to put them on their toes may be the antidote to potential corrupt practices

I believe or should I say I want to believe that having our own refinery would make us immune to external prices of crude oil. I mean if we drill our oil at X amount and refine it at Y amount. I would expect the cost of a liter of oil to be X + Y +Z where Z is the extra amount due to logistics in transportation etc.

The Fg would still pay them since it has no capacity to store her own PMS. The Fg still need to store it in private own reservoirs and can be at the rate of 3 naira per liter stored

Also they would also cheat the FG by claiming wrong figures as the example I made earlier

lso you mean from 2010 to 2011 the price of subsidy jumped from 600 billion to 1.3-1.6 trillion. That is about 100-200 % increase. I am sure the FG can explain those figure better. Abi we dey bath with petrol for Nija    (I read your link) I think we need to becareful because even with the percentage increase as your link suggested would not amount to 1.3 trillion naira because if there is an increase by 27 % which means the new subsidy should be 825 billion naira.

jmaine:


2 months Alj Harem  . . .Yar Adua died may 2010 ( so we were told  ) . .and we are talking about december 2011 . . .over a year bro . . and over those years , you would agree with me that in the government zeal to avoid fuel scarcity . .they encouraged more imports witch prolly fuelled the desires of corrupt collaborators to increase their smuggling activities and also to inflate imported figures to swindle the FG . .though a little vigilance on the part of the FG could have stemmed this tide . .nevertheless, when the next man is corrupt, policing an obvious loop hole in subsidy payment is an uphill task . . .

And also increase in crude oil in the global market should not affect us if we have our refinery.

You are very correct sir, but sadly we don't have them currently, until the next 18 - 24 months ( if the time line of the FG shall be fulfilled  ) . . and within this period, our debt burden might increase to alarming levels if we keep paying this people the fraudulent subsidies. Due to the alarming conduit pipes of corruption in the system . . .Right from the Port - through the customs -down to the NNPC  . .

If these people cover their tracks well . .investigating and getting substantial evidence would be tasky and might not yield the required dividends,  unless you want to get smashed in the law court for failure of providing telling evidence to nail them beyond reasonable doubt. . .

I liken the subsidy issue to a fire incident . . .

Why not cut out the fuel source (subsidy) to the Fire( corruption) , than try in vain to smother a fire with huge amount of fuel ( Systemic corruption) all around you . .which is the preferred route Oga, Harem . .

Hope say i don answer your questions, Chaii i don tire . . .Endurance don less  .

Before I start I just want to reinstate my position that subsidy has to be removed but not now

1. Surly you have to agree with me that before the purpose removal to even the governors 6 months ago; there must have been thoughts of it more so Iweala was there around 2005 and she must have know if the subsidy was sustainable or not right.

If yes then during Jonathan which started from 2010, she could have told GEJ to start building a refinery around the period she got the job. Also I have to add that the issue here is trust

Another adage "Once bitten twice shy"  You to be honest with you, we (nigerians protesting) don't trust the government and I believe we are right to believe so.

Subsidy removal was never a bad idea. the problem comes when the government would start telling us stories few months down the line and I no go lie the thing go pain me no be small.

Right now, the FG spends 1 billion (993 million naira) on just food for GEJ and sambo. Such wasteful spending does not sound correct to our ears at all.  I can go on and on and on on such ridiculous spending plan. But funny the FG want to use others to save up then they themselves cannot cut down on the spending.

He denied jetting out to South Africa or spending N1billion to feed in Aso Rock.

The President, who spoke through his Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Dr. Reuben Abati, accused some of the lawmakers of mischief.

Also since 6 months ago according the Iweala there was a meeting about the removal of subsidy, why did the FG not start the building of refinery immediately (5 months) so when people like me ask what the money would be used for, the evidence would be there for us to see.

All the initiative Iweala said could have started maybe in a small scale and then they would present it to the people that they want to go larger and such they need more money of which would come from the subsidy.

Again, talking of reduction in transport, would that not be subsided ? If yes then by how much in the subsidy money ?

Diesel subsidy has been removed we don't still have refinery so what makes me an average man think that GEJ would be different from OBJ, Yaradua ? Sorry Jmaine but I am just being critical here in my thinking. Each successive government had promised heaven and earth and still we are in the same situation.

Let me just let you know that the protest is not even about subsidy again but about corruption and that is why we saw youths visit Otedola, Tinubu and co houses yesterday. No one wants to be fooled again by the government.

recently Madueke bought a house in Austria worth 20 million euros or 25.5 Million Dollars. I am sure you know that such money is not from shell or what ever but from corruption and Now you want to tell me that such a woman would turn around and make things move Undecided It is sad.

Lastly, Now Nigerian or should I say "I" really want to see the visible development before the removal. The FG can't just wake up one day and tell us that she would turn Nigeria into a better place by using the money from subsidy correctly.

Moreover you spoke of corruption but the people the FG are going to give the money to are also corrupt so why not protest now so people can see what the average man is thinking ?

Just the very last thing. Can you tell me why the FG has not explained to us the money from the removal of subsidy from Diesel and Kerosene.

Because I remember when subsidy was removed from agriculture, the infrastructure (port harcourt i think) was already in place before the removal by OBJ and it was the exact same issue about benefit thieves, smugglers etc

why can't the same be in GEJ

Thanks for you time

Marketers Kick over Fuel Import Contracts
By Chika Amanze-Nwachuku, 07.19.2010


Major and independent petroleum marketers have petitioned the Presidency, demanding a review of the third quarter allocation of fuel import contracts which was allegedly carried out secretly.

They alleged lack of transparency in the manner the Petroleum Products Pricing and Regulatory Agency (PPPRA) handled the second and third quarter allocations.

The aggrieved marketers want the presidency to compel the agency to make public, details of the companies that benefited from the allocations; their installed capacities, quantity of products applied for and quantity approved.

Also, the date of importation, port of discharge, vessel name, quantity imported, Naval/ Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR) clearance of such vessel, country of origin as well as names of the promoters of such companies should be made public, they demanded.

The oil dealers who further alleged manipulation in the manner the PPPRA handles administration of the newly introduced Sovereign Debt Instrument (SDI) said that the federal government, in the last few months, has paid out billions of naira to ‘brief case companies’ as imports subsidy on the recommendations of the PPPRA.
They have vowed that should the government fail to address the issue, they may be compelled to resort to other means to seek redress.

The petition written by the marketers noted that “in the second and third quarters specifically, some companies were allocated petroleum products import permit above their request and/or installed capacity, some got allocation below their request and installed capacity while others with well established structures for supply and distribution got nothing at all.

“In the interest of fair-play and transparency, we demand from PPPRA a publication of the full list of those companies which got petroleum products allocation in the second and third quarters along with their installed capacities, quantity applied for, quantity approved, date of importation, port of discharge, vessel name, quantity imported, Naval/DPR clearance of such vessel, country of origin as well as names of the promoters of such companies.

“We also demand that the current third quarter allocation which the PPPRA and its cohorts have secretly carried out be reviewed, the agency should equally give reason for not making the third quarter allocation public, otherwise, we shall be compelled to resort to other measures to seek redress."

The marketers alleged that the PPPRA leadership is flouting government policy by continuously favouring non-core investors in the allocation of products.

“We have borrowed and invested billions of naira to create employment and grow local capacity in the Nigerian economy through construction of tank-farms, filling stations, petroleum tankers as well as acquired ships and jetties, yet we are being denied allocation," said another marketer.

The marketers also noted that they are currently faced with a myriad of challenges including a huge debt overhang occasioned by the collapse in oil prices which hit the international market two years ago; the global economic downturn and its impact on the Nigerian economy and the current banking reforms.

“We are doing our best to cope with these challenges of huge debt overhang due to declining oil prices and shall not sit back and watch helplessly while misguided elements undermine government’s good intentions for the growth and development of the industry.

“Clearly, the recent passage into law of the Nigerian Content Bill underscores in more eloquent terms government’s good intentions. However, the second and third quarter allocation is obviously at variance with the aspirations of government to grow indigenous capacity,” the marketers stated in their petition.

Under the guidelines of the Petroleum Subsidy Fund, only companies that are registered as oil marketing companies with the Corporate Affairs Commission; those with proof of ownership of storage facilities of 5,000 MT for a particular product as well as dispensing facilities (retail outlet network); and companies with the ability to finance a minimum cargo of 5,000 MT of product, are eligible to draw from the fund.

But the PPPRA with the support of the ministry has been circumventing the criteria for a long time, enabling ineligible companies to make claims for products they often do not import.
THISDAY investigations revealed that in the third quarter, African Petroleum, MRS and Oando were allocated 180,000 Metric Tonnes (MT) each. Also, a company identified as SPOG Energy was allocated 210,000 MT, Pinnacle and Zenon Petroleum, 60,000, each, while Masters Energy and Capital Oil and were allocated 15,000MT each.

In the 2nd quarter, most of the companies listed by the PPPRA were unknown companies in the oil and gas industry. They included Alminur Resources Ltd, Annajul, ASB Investment Company Ltd, Delmar Petroleum Company Ltd, Knights Bridge Ltd, Lloyds Energy Ltd, Majope Investment Ltd, Menol Limited, Pinnacle Oil and Gas Ltd, Rosari Ltd, SEDEC Energy Ltd, Sirus Taglient Petro Ltd and Stonebridge Oil Ltd.

In the 2nd quarter allocations, Folawiyo Energy Ltd requested for 360,000 MT but saw its allocation reduced to 150,000 MT; Mobil Oil Nigeria Plc asked for 90,000 MT but was given 30,000 MT to import; Rahamaniyya Oil & Gas Ltd was slashed from 180,000 MT to 60,000 MT; Sahara Energy Resources was cut from 350,000 MT to 60,000 MT; and Honeywell Oil & Gas Limited from 90,000 MT to 15,000 MT.

Others companies, which had their requests slashed include: MRS Oil & Gas Ltd - 480,000 MT to 90,000 MT; Total Oil Plc - 60,000 MT to 30,000 MT; Acorn Petroleum Plc - 120,000 MT to 15,000 MT; Conoil Plc 120,000 MT to 60,000 MT; Integrated Oil & Gas Ltd - 90,000 MT to 15,000 MT; IPMAN Investment Limited - 90,000 to 30,000 MT; NIPCO Plc - 60,000 MT to 30,000 MT; and Masters Energy - 180,000 MT to 30,000 MT.

Reacting to the allegation that the PPPRA and the Ministry of Petroleum is doing everything possible to ensure that the third quarter import allocation schedule does not get into the public domain, the Petroleum Minister Mrs. Diezani Alison-Madueke distanced herself from allegations that she interfers in the daily operations of the PPPRA.

Speaking through the General Manager Group Public Affairs Division at the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) Dr. Levi Ajuonuma, the minister said the allegations were baseless, given that the agency is not administratively within her direct supervision.

She added that the PPPRA is under the presidency and does not report to her. “Any insinuation to the effect that the minister interferes with the day-to-day running of either PPMC or the PPPRA is not only unfair, but a blackmail which will not be tolerated,” Levi stated.

Also, a PPPRA source who spoke on condition of anonymity last night dismissed the allegations and insisted that the agency has been transparent in the handling of products allocation.
He explained that the agency allocates products to entities in accordance with the Petroleum Subsidy Fund (PSF) guidelines, which provides that only registered companies with proof of ownership of storage facilities of 5,000 MT or entities that have confirmed through-put arrangement with other companies are entitled to the products allocation.

He said about 50 companies applied for allocation, a number, which the agency viewed as too much. The source also denied the alleged manipulation of the SDI, saying it comes directly from the Debt Management Office (DMO). He explained that some marketers submitted their bids very late, but that 35 marketers who were qualified for the third quarter benefitted.

jmaine:

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Am not primed for long arguments . . am the mike tyson type with  powerful stunning blows over a short period of time  . . so this might just be my last answer  . . .

Yes, not totally now . .but definitely now . . and to be candid , Nigerians in general don't have a particular "now" when subsidy should be removed . . . it's in our DNA to criticize . .

The world economy of 2005 was more stable than 2011, like Sanusi pointed which most people chose to ignore . . Economies round the world are trimming down on their socialist expences in the name of austere measures . .recently the U.K prime minister also announced some . . .due to the fragile balance of the global economy . . .

Economists work on prediction and forcast to plan for today . .and the difference is that the economic forecast for 2005 was not as dicey as the economic forecast for 2011 and beyond . . .and what was obtainable in 2005 may not be obtainable in 2011 . . . 6 whopping years, in which there was a global melt down in between

One word Difference . . .in time and even in space . .

As for the trust issues . . .I understand the fears of Nigerians cos i feel the same way too  . . . but we must have a little faith in the system or else . .our negativity would just bring stagnation rather than the risks for growth

This was rebutted by Reuben Abiatti (Below) but it's subject to more clarification  . . . Na government rebuttal sha 
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/32599-jonathan-accuses-house-of-inciting-nigerians.html


With all sincerity, there has been ground work to build the refineries since mid 2010 . .at least that of the Lagos i was aware of . . . As an EIA expert, i wanted to get involved and as a business man . .i wanted to buy off some lands around the locality for future sale purposes . .Lands around the refinery location would be gold  . .so we predicted  . . . And to do an EIA of that magnitude can span more than a year if a thorough job is to be done over seasonal variations . . . before we now consider your normal bureaucratic bottle neck of analyzing the report from the experts, giving the go ahead, releasing funds, importing the machinery, and moving it to the site to commence work . . .You don't expect all this to be on the pages on the newspaper . .

If you want evidence . .go to the office of the D.P.R and you would see it  . . .

I support the bolded . . . but you cant place a figure on how much transport would be subsidized . . .but it can never shoot up to the trillions cos it's fuel utilized that would be accounted for devoid of smuggling and inflated and doctored importation papers

Diesel is just one of those numerous products gotten from the fractional distillation of crude oil and has such has other siblings . . .As far as the gasoline was heavily regulated and subsidized . .then it would make no economic sense to install a refinery while not utilizing the wholesome products to maximize profits . .they would simply be at a loss . .and no business is created to court losses . . .

Majority of the protests is against subsidy removal  . .those who went to those guyz houses were composed of 0.000001% of the grumbling voices of the masses . .why are your legislooters being hailed as heroes for playing to the gallery, asking for prize reversal . .why have their heads not being placed on the plate like the FG . .

This was too cheap of you . . .No iota of facts in them . .too hell with those Sahara junks and their useless and shameful propaganda . . this part did not do justice to your person . .

All you did here was to repeat yourself . . .I did acknowledge the trust issues as rightly pointed by you and everyone else . . .

First the removal of subsidy spanned OBJ period, so if you are to use OBJ as a comparison to GEJ, then there is a fallacy in that cos OBJ should also answer what happened to the subsidy money . . .

Yes, the subsidy money was wasted due to systemic corruption cos if there was none . .the power projects of the OBJ regime should have been lighting our homes on a consistent basis . .

Now my question . . .why did the labour Union and Nigerians generally not fight . . .guess, we thought it never affected us directly . .but chose to act now, since it is now on our door step . .sorry . .it's hypocrisy on our part . .

Your welcome but no give me too much work again    . .  I don tire  . . .

alj harem:

thanks Oga Jmaine but there are some things you stated that my mind can't just agree to.

I understand  . . .

alj harem:

One last thing oga jmaine and I would make it very short.

It better be 00h! cos me don tire  . . .

alj harem:


1. If the prices of fuel in Chad goes up to 200 naira, would the smugglers not still be benefiting ? You see it is like having headache and saying the solution is to cut the head off.

alj harem:


Other things the government is subsiding in the future can as well be smuggled out of the border

alj harem:

If the price of oil in america dollars then all of a sudden raises to 500 naira per liter, would we be buying the fuel at such prices even though we produce it ? Don't you think our economy

efisher:

@alj harem, let me use a set of questions to "answer" one of your above questions.

Cars are smuggled daily from Cotonou to Nigeria. Does that have a negative effect on Benin Republic? Has the smuggling resulted a shortage of cars in Benin?

The key condition is this: When there is no subsidy (money paid out by govt), on a commodity, then its smuggling results in no loss for the nation as long as supply is guaranteed. (In fact it's a net gain for the source country).

jmaine:

I understand  . . .

It better be 00h! cos me don tire  . . .

I would answer your question in two stead: -

Scenario 1:- whether they smuggle it into neighboring countries . .the FG wont be paying heavily for that illegal activity . .

Scenario 2: with the amount of bribe they need to pay all the way to those countries . . .The Low profit margin might just discourage the smugglers from taking that route often . .which ever way, we spend no cash while those who sell within would continue to make more money . . . due to population indices . . .

The fuel subsidy scam is like a festering cancer tissue  due to the high systemic corruption . .and what do you do to such tissue . .you cut it off completely . . .

If the government subsidizes production within, it would create jobs and increase the socio-economic well being of an average Nigerian . . . we would rather start importing to other places than smuggling . .unless what you export is against the law . . .

Yes, your fears are genuine but that is a worse case scenario you played . . .mind if i also play another scene by telling you that before then, we might have had our TAM completed on our refineries and also others refineries might also spring up . . .

Everyone has a doom day scenario . . . but let's leave it at that . . .

karl max:

Ans. I don't care as long as my LGA is getting its share of the N1.3tr government spends to subsidize it for them initially!!! Instead of me  protesting to give NNPC the N1.3tr to continue subsidizing it for  them

alj harem:

I no go disturb you again make I allow you rest

Oga Jmaine thanks a lot, I enjoyed the discussion and appreciate it. Thanks

Thank You too oo! Oga Harem  . . .make i go take my stand by glucose . . . Energy don waka finish 

jmaine:

Thank You too oo! Oga Harem  . . .make i go take my stand by glucose . . . Energy don waka finish 

diluminati:

This Bliss4lyfe must be praying for this thread to dive into oblivion. He must be saying 'Oh what a fool i've become, my blind loyalty made me write this shet. I'm sory i'm a fool'

alj harem:

that got me seriously cracking you be old man

I be young old man . . .

Rad1cal:

You always sound pretty silly .

diluminati:

This Bliss4lyfe must be praying for this thread to dive into oblivion. He must be saying 'Oh what a fool i've become, my blind loyalty made me write this shet. I'm sory i'm a fool'

diluminati:

This Bliss4lyfe must be praying for this thread to dive into oblivion. He must be saying 'Oh what a fool i've become, my blind loyalty made me write this shet. I'm sory i'm a fool'

alj harem:

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